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I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video card
.. Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating 5.8,
pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index today 8.91
or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My problem is I lock
up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the point that the only
way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just locks up not crashes all
that appears is system was shut down improperly. For a system that gets a
good performance rating what are they looking at. The same thing happened
when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that system captured and can play.
I locked up the computer so the only way to use the computer was to hard
reboot, again system shut down improperly was the only log that I found. I
am able to produce great ratings and reliability ratings, problem is I can
not use the computer with out locking it up. I would much rather get lower
rating, true ratings, than get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not
overheating, it has enough power etc. What gives Thanks
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It did it again I played Spider solitaire. The game was fine until I tried
to exit. System locked to the point that I had to shut down the computer,
hard restart. Again the question is how can a computer have a
performance rating of 5.8 and a reliability index if I don't shut down
improperly of over 9 just plain lock up. Only indication is the
reliability score dropping and saying computer was shut down incorrectly.
there is no other indication. The idea of giving high scores to make users
feel good about their system is really misleading. Tell me that Vista
Ultimate is a waste of time and money and be done with it.
"Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video card
>. Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating 5.8,
>pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index today
>8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My problem is I
>lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the point that the
>only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just locks up not
>crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly. For a system
>that gets a good performance rating what are they looking at. The same
>thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that system
>captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to use the
>computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly was the only
>log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and reliability
>ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out locking it up. I
>would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than get what I am
>getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has enough power etc.
>What gives Thanks
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Next time you shut down spider solitare, have the Task Manager on the screen
and shut down from the task bar so you can see Task Manager. Have the
performance panel on the screen and all cores showing. Also you don't say
what cpu you have running and be sure to wait several minutes to see if the
system clears up. The performance rating is cute but not meaningful to
actual normal operation.
"Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
news:eLnPAsjRJHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > It did it again I played Spider solitaire. The game was fine until I
> tried to exit. System locked to the point that I had to shut down the
> computer, hard restart. Again the question is how can a computer have
> a performance rating of 5.8 and a reliability index if I don't shut down
> improperly of over 9 just plain lock up. Only indication is the
> reliability score dropping and saying computer was shut down incorrectly.
> there is no other indication. The idea of giving high scores to make
> users feel good about their system is really misleading. Tell me that
> Vista Ultimate is a waste of time and money and be done with it.
> "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
> news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video
>>card . Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating
>>5.8, pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index
>>today 8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My
>>problem is I lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the
>>point that the only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just
>>locks up not crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly.
>>For a system that gets a good performance rating what are they looking at.
>>The same thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that
>>system captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to
>>use the computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly was
>>the only log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and
>>reliability ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out
>>locking it up. I would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than
>>get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has
>>enough power etc. What gives Thanks
>>
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Again dual 275 dual core opterons I have waited over night nothing happens
I will try with the task Manager next time. My main comment was the
reliability rating is also biased for microsoft. It really does not show
anything Thanks
"John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message
news:%23ykThOzRJHA.3748[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Next time you shut down spider solitare, have the Task Manager on the
> screen and shut down from the task bar so you can see Task Manager. Have
> the performance panel on the screen and all cores showing. Also you don't
> say what cpu you have running and be sure to wait several minutes to see
> if the system clears up. The performance rating is cute but not
> meaningful to actual normal operation.
>
>
> "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
> news:eLnPAsjRJHA.588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> It did it again I played Spider solitaire. The game was fine until I
>> tried to exit. System locked to the point that I had to shut down the
>> computer, hard restart. Again the question is how can a computer have
>> a performance rating of 5.8 and a reliability index if I don't shut
>> down improperly of over 9 just plain lock up. Only indication is the
>> reliability score dropping and saying computer was shut down incorrectly.
>> there is no other indication. The idea of giving high scores to make
>> users feel good about their system is really misleading. Tell me that
>> Vista Ultimate is a waste of time and money and be done with it.
>> "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
>> news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>>>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video
>>>card . Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating
>>>5.8, pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index
>>>today 8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My
>>>problem is I lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the
>>>point that the only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just
>>>locks up not crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly.
>>>For a system that gets a good performance rating what are they looking
>>>at. The same thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that
>>>system captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to
>>>use the computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly
>>>was the only log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and
>>>reliability ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out
>>>locking it up. I would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than
>>>get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has
>>>enough power etc. What gives Thanks
>>>
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I am not on Vista myself, so I may be missing your point. Isn't the
Reliability Index something that works in a similar way that average speeds,
though? Drive 50Mph from A to B and one red light blasts your average to
less than half of what you'd expected.
Here is one knowledgable guy who seem to like the feature:
http://www.petri.co.il/reliability_monitor_windows_vista.htm
Tony. . .
"Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video card
>. Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating 5.8,
>pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index today
>8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My problem is I
>lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the point that the
>only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just locks up not
>crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly. For a system
>that gets a good performance rating what are they looking at. The same
>thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that system
>captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to use the
>computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly was the only
>log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and reliability
>ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out locking it up. I
>would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than get what I am
>getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has enough power etc.
>What gives Thanks
>
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I agree with the article it would be great if it told me why I had to hard
restart to escape from a Microsoft game. Reducing my score and telling me I
shut down incorrectly is not telling me much. I know I shut down
incorrectly. I want to know why I had to shut down incorrectly. I am saying
with a performance rating of 5.8 system should work you would think? I play
a game that is a Microsoft game, comes with vista and I can not exit it,
someone should know why. I would think the programmers used the game before
and at some point had to exit the game to get back to work. Thanks for the
reply
"Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message
news:O6IKaS0RJHA.5164[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I am not on Vista myself, so I may be missing your point. Isn't the >Reliability Index something that works in a similar way that average >speeds, though? Drive 50Mph from A to B and one red light blasts your >average to less than half of what you'd expected. > > Here is one knowledgable guy who seem to like the feature: > > http://www.petri.co.il/reliability_monitor_windows_vista.htm> > > Tony. . . > > > "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message > news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother >>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video >>card . Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating >>5.8, pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index >>today 8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My >>problem is I lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the >>point that the only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just >>locks up not crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly. >>For a system that gets a good performance rating what are they looking at. >>The same thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that >>system captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to >>use the computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly was >>the only log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and >>reliability ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out >>locking it up. I would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than >>get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has >>enough power etc. What gives Thanks >> > >
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Yes, I see what you mean, and I have been thinking about your predicament
since there really is some kind of conflict that confronts you. You have a
tool, but it's not helping you.
I am beginning to think that this conflict originates when you are trying to
employ a tool that isn't designed to do that particular job that you had in
mind. As John said, these 'indices' are 'cute', but they are not designed to
be real benchmarks or troubleshooters. I am not on Vista myself so I cannot
go into specifics as to what I think you might use instead.
On my system (XP, which is technically somewhat of a glorified NT system) I
would perhaps investigate using 'Performance Logs and Alerts' in
Administrative Tools. Paired with scripting, this could make you extract
almost any kind of information from the system that you could ever dream of.
I cannot imagine that Vista wouldn't have the same capabilities, or better,
and I'm sure it takes a creative mind to make it do what you want, but it's
worth investigating I think. Try the SysInternals site, I've heard people
saying that is the best part of all of Microsoft.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx
Tony. . .
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Are you using the latest WHQL drivers for mouse, keyboard and video?
-iceeagle
"Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video card
>. Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating 5.8,
>pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index today
>8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My problem is I
>lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the point that the
>only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just locks up not
>crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly. For a system
>that gets a good performance rating what are they looking at. The same
>thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that system
>captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to use the
>computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly was the only
>log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and reliability
>ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out locking it up. I
>would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than get what I am
>getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has enough power etc.
>What gives Thanks
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yes all drivers are the latest. It is not keyboard or mouse. video is what
Ati recommends thanks
"Irv Segal" <iceeagle1112[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OCIMgBpSJHA.4916[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Are you using the latest WHQL drivers for mouse, keyboard and video?
>
> -iceeagle
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>
> "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
> news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video
>>card . Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating
>>5.8, pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index
>>today 8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My
>>problem is I lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the
>>point that the only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just
>>locks up not crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly.
>>For a system that gets a good performance rating what are they looking at.
>>The same thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that
>>system captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to
>>use the computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly was
>>the only log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and
>>reliability ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out
>>locking it up. I would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than
>>get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has
>>enough power etc. What gives Thanks
>>
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from task master exits properly no error no lock up Thanks but there is
still a problem if I can not exit will try that again
"Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
news:uY%23epkpSJHA.5364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > yes all drivers are the latest. It is not keyboard or mouse. video is
> what Ati recommends thanks
> "Irv Segal" <iceeagle1112[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OCIMgBpSJHA.4916[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Are you using the latest WHQL drivers for mouse, keyboard and video?
>>
>> -iceeagle
>>
>>
>> "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
>> news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>>>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video
>>>card . Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating
>>>5.8, pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index
>>>today 8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My
>>>problem is I lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the
>>>point that the only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just
>>>locks up not crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly.
>>>For a system that gets a good performance rating what are they looking
>>>at. The same thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that
>>>system captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to
>>>use the computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly
>>>was the only log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and
>>>reliability ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out
>>>locking it up. I would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than
>>>get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has
>>>enough power etc. What gives Thanks
>>>
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that time first time it closed correctly. not sure what I did differently
but game is ok thanks
"Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
news:uY%23epkpSJHA.5364[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > yes all drivers are the latest. It is not keyboard or mouse. video is
> what Ati recommends thanks
> "Irv Segal" <iceeagle1112[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OCIMgBpSJHA.4916[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Are you using the latest WHQL drivers for mouse, keyboard and video?
>>
>> -iceeagle
>>
>>
>> "Matt Schneyer" <matt[ at ]xyz.net> wrote in message
>> news:eqaWXlfRJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I am running Vista ultimate 64 bit. It is on a Tyan Thunder 2885 mother
>>>board with 4 gigs of memory, it is a raid 5, and an ATI 3850 agp video
>>>card . Dual 275 dual opterons. If I was to value the performance rating
>>>5.8, pretty good not perfect but pretty good and the reliability index
>>>today 8.91 or there about, steadily increases also pretty good. My
>>>problem is I lock up the computer when existing spyder solitaire to the
>>>point that the only way out is to hard reboot. Because the system just
>>>locks up not crashes all that appears is system was shut down improperly.
>>>For a system that gets a good performance rating what are they looking
>>>at. The same thing happened when I tried to burn to DVD a video file that
>>>system captured and can play. I locked up the computer so the only way to
>>>use the computer was to hard reboot, again system shut down improperly
>>>was the only log that I found. I am able to produce great ratings and
>>>reliability ratings, problem is I can not use the computer with out
>>>locking it up. I would much rather get lower rating, true ratings, than
>>>get what I am getting. I am sure computer is not overheating, it has
>>>enough power etc. What gives Thanks
>>>
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