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My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome scre
KR 11/6/2008 9:11:01 AM
I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP Pro as
the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a boot
drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time but when
it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.

Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
RE: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome scre
Carlos 11/6/2008 10:21:01 AM
KR,
Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary devices
as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel, etc.) and
features.
Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an "F6
disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the installation
program "see" it.
Carlos

"KR" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP Pro as
> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a boot
> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time but when
> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>
> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome scre
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 11/6/2008 2:38:09 PM
Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> KR,
> Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
> This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
> All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
> devices
> as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel, etc.)
> and
> features.
> Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
> Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an "F6
> disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
> installation
> program "see" it.
> Carlos
>
> "KR" wrote:
>
>> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP Pro
>> as
>> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a boot
>> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time but
>> when
>> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>>
>> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????

Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
KR 11/7/2008 9:27:06 PM
Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is 32bit
or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows XP
Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came with it
doesnot indicate one way or the other.




"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > KR,
> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
> > devices
> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel, etc.)
> > and
> > features.
> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an "F6
> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
> > installation
> > program "see" it.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "KR" wrote:
> >
> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP Pro
> >> as
> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a boot
> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time but
> >> when
> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
> >>
> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
>
>
Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 11/7/2008 11:27:23 PM
Then it's 32-bit.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"KR" <KR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:82CA811F-69F7-48F4-B30E-0BC5065DC442[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is
> 32bit
> or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows XP
> Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came with
> it
> doesnot indicate one way or the other.
>
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > KR,
>> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
>> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
>> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
>> > devices
>> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel,
>> > etc.)
>> > and
>> > features.
>> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
>> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an
>> > "F6
>> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
>> > installation
>> > program "see" it.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "KR" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP
>> >> Pro
>> >> as
>> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a
>> >> boot
>> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time
>> >> but
>> >> when
>> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
>>
>>

Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> 12/11/2008 5:04:38 PM
Hi, KR.

As Charlie says, chances are about 99+% that it's 32-bit.

To test for sure, just remember <Win>+<Break>.

Keyboards are not all the same, but most have the Windows key (often called
Start or the Windows logo key) in the lower left, and the Pause/Break key in
the upper right area. Use the Win key like a Shift key while you press the
Break key. The System Properties page should pop up on your screen. While
there have been some variations from one Windows version to the next, this
has worked at least since Windows 95. (Control Panel | System should get
you to the same screen, but <Win>+<Break> is quicker and always available,
no matter what else your computer is doing.) Somewhere on that screen, it
will say 64-bit - or not. SOME 32-bit versions say 32-bit, others are
silent about this, but if it doesn't say 64-bit, then it's 32-bit. This
screen doesn't tell you about your hardware, but it tells which OS you are
running. Many users nowadays are running 32-bit Windows XP or Vista on a
64-bit CPU.

Whenever asking for help in any NG nowadays, be sure to mention your full OS
version. It eliminates a couple of layers of follow-up questions and should
get your answer more quickly.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc[ at ]grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 0908 in Windows 7 x64 6801)

"KR" <KR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:82CA811F-69F7-48F4-B30E-0BC5065DC442[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is
> 32bit
> or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows XP
> Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came with
> it
> doesnot indicate one way or the other.
>
>
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > KR,
>> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
>> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
>> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
>> > devices
>> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel,
>> > etc.)
>> > and
>> > features.
>> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
>> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an
>> > "F6
>> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
>> > installation
>> > program "see" it.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "KR" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP
>> >> Pro
>> >> as
>> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a
>> >> boot
>> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time
>> >> but
>> >> when
>> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????

Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 12/11/2008 11:58:29 PM
Won't work on my keyboards, RC. I'm still using (and buying when I can find
them) my old Northgate keyboards. Ctrl key next to the A, Alt key at the
outside bottom edges, Caps Lock next to Shift, and function keys along the
right hand side. And no Windows keys. At all. ;)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:2EA5CF63-E802-4BF3-9C13-9853B690D54E[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi, KR.
>
> As Charlie says, chances are about 99+% that it's 32-bit.
>
> To test for sure, just remember <Win>+<Break>.
>
> Keyboards are not all the same, but most have the Windows key (often
> called Start or the Windows logo key) in the lower left, and the
> Pause/Break key in the upper right area. Use the Win key like a Shift key
> while you press the Break key. The System Properties page should pop up
> on your screen. While there have been some variations from one Windows
> version to the next, this has worked at least since Windows 95. (Control
> Panel | System should get you to the same screen, but <Win>+<Break> is
> quicker and always available, no matter what else your computer is doing.)
> Somewhere on that screen, it will say 64-bit - or not. SOME 32-bit
> versions say 32-bit, others are silent about this, but if it doesn't say
> 64-bit, then it's 32-bit. This screen doesn't tell you about your
> hardware, but it tells which OS you are running. Many users nowadays are
> running 32-bit Windows XP or Vista on a 64-bit CPU.
>
> Whenever asking for help in any NG nowadays, be sure to mention your full
> OS version. It eliminates a couple of layers of follow-up questions and
> should get your answer more quickly.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc[ at ]grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 0908 in Windows 7 x64 6801)
>
> "KR" <KR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82CA811F-69F7-48F4-B30E-0BC5065DC442[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is
>> 32bit
>> or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows
>> XP
>> Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came with
>> it
>> doesnot indicate one way or the other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>
>>> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> > KR,
>>> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
>>> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
>>> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
>>> > devices
>>> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel,
>>> > etc.)
>>> > and
>>> > features.
>>> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
>>> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an
>>> > "F6
>>> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
>>> > installation
>>> > program "see" it.
>>> > Carlos
>>> >
>>> > "KR" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP
>>> >> Pro
>>> >> as
>>> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a
>>> >> boot
>>> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time
>>> >> but
>>> >> when
>>> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
>

Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> 12/12/2008 4:58:00 AM
Hi, Charlie.

I never had a Northgate keyboard, but I heard good things about them. But
that key layout is so 20th Century! :^{

<Win>+<Break> is one of my favorite shortcuts. I used it several times just
today.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc[ at ]grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 0908 in Win7 x64 6801)

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:#Sv0gx#WJHA.5328[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Won't work on my keyboards, RC. I'm still using (and buying when I can
> find them) my old Northgate keyboards. Ctrl key next to the A, Alt key at
> the outside bottom edges, Caps Lock next to Shift, and function keys along
> the right hand side. And no Windows keys. At all. ;)
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> wrote in message
> news:2EA5CF63-E802-4BF3-9C13-9853B690D54E[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Hi, KR.
>>
>> As Charlie says, chances are about 99+% that it's 32-bit.
>>
>> To test for sure, just remember <Win>+<Break>.
>>
>> Keyboards are not all the same, but most have the Windows key (often
>> called Start or the Windows logo key) in the lower left, and the
>> Pause/Break key in the upper right area. Use the Win key like a Shift
>> key while you press the Break key. The System Properties page should pop
>> up on your screen. While there have been some variations from one
>> Windows version to the next, this has worked at least since Windows 95.
>> (Control Panel | System should get you to the same screen, but
>> <Win>+<Break> is quicker and always available, no matter what else your
>> computer is doing.) Somewhere on that screen, it will say 64-bit - or
>> not. SOME 32-bit versions say 32-bit, others are silent about this, but
>> if it doesn't say 64-bit, then it's 32-bit. This screen doesn't tell you
>> about your hardware, but it tells which OS you are running. Many users
>> nowadays are running 32-bit Windows XP or Vista on a 64-bit CPU.
>>
>> Whenever asking for help in any NG nowadays, be sure to mention your full
>> OS version. It eliminates a couple of layers of follow-up questions and
>> should get your answer more quickly.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "KR" <KR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:82CA811F-69F7-48F4-B30E-0BC5065DC442[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is
>>> 32bit
>>> or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows
>>> XP
>>> Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came
>>> with it
>>> doesnot indicate one way or the other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>
>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>> > KR,
>>>> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
>>>> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
>>>> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
>>>> > devices
>>>> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel,
>>>> > etc.)
>>>> > and
>>>> > features.
>>>> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
>>>> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an
>>>> > "F6
>>>> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
>>>> > installation
>>>> > program "see" it.
>>>> > Carlos
>>>> >
>>>> > "KR" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows
>>>> >> XP Pro
>>>> >> as
>>>> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a
>>>> >> boot
>>>> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time
>>>> >> but
>>>> >> when
>>>> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????

Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 12/12/2008 3:33:02 PM
Well, I don't miss it. MUCH more important to have my control key next to
the A where I can reach it for Ctrl+ combinations. Most of my Word macros
are dependent on that, and this way I don't have to move my fingers from the
home keys, nor look down at the keyboard. Also, having the function keys on
the left is a lot easier for me, though not as critical.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:0279E331-D046-44D3-9EFB-03619051F5FC[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi, Charlie.
>
> I never had a Northgate keyboard, but I heard good things about them. But
> that key layout is so 20th Century! :^{
>
> <Win>+<Break> is one of my favorite shortcuts. I used it several times
> just today.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc[ at ]grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 0908 in Win7 x64 6801)
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:#Sv0gx#WJHA.5328[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Won't work on my keyboards, RC. I'm still using (and buying when I can
>> find them) my old Northgate keyboards. Ctrl key next to the A, Alt key at
>> the outside bottom edges, Caps Lock next to Shift, and function keys
>> along the right hand side. And no Windows keys. At all. ;)
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>> "R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> wrote in message
>> news:2EA5CF63-E802-4BF3-9C13-9853B690D54E[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> Hi, KR.
>>>
>>> As Charlie says, chances are about 99+% that it's 32-bit.
>>>
>>> To test for sure, just remember <Win>+<Break>.
>>>
>>> Keyboards are not all the same, but most have the Windows key (often
>>> called Start or the Windows logo key) in the lower left, and the
>>> Pause/Break key in the upper right area. Use the Win key like a Shift
>>> key while you press the Break key. The System Properties page should
>>> pop up on your screen. While there have been some variations from one
>>> Windows version to the next, this has worked at least since Windows 95.
>>> (Control Panel | System should get you to the same screen, but
>>> <Win>+<Break> is quicker and always available, no matter what else your
>>> computer is doing.) Somewhere on that screen, it will say 64-bit - or
>>> not. SOME 32-bit versions say 32-bit, others are silent about this, but
>>> if it doesn't say 64-bit, then it's 32-bit. This screen doesn't tell
>>> you about your hardware, but it tells which OS you are running. Many
>>> users nowadays are running 32-bit Windows XP or Vista on a 64-bit CPU.
>>>
>>> Whenever asking for help in any NG nowadays, be sure to mention your
>>> full OS version. It eliminates a couple of layers of follow-up
>>> questions and should get your answer more quickly.
>>>
>>> RC
>>>
>>> "KR" <KR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:82CA811F-69F7-48F4-B30E-0BC5065DC442[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is
>>>> 32bit
>>>> or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows
>>>> XP
>>>> Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came
>>>> with it
>>>> doesnot indicate one way or the other.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>> > KR,
>>>>> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
>>>>> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
>>>>> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
>>>>> > devices
>>>>> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel,
>>>>> > etc.)
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > features.
>>>>> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
>>>>> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an
>>>>> > "F6
>>>>> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
>>>>> > installation
>>>>> > program "see" it.
>>>>> > Carlos
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "KR" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows
>>>>> >> XP Pro
>>>>> >> as
>>>>> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as
>>>>> >> a boot
>>>>> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this
>>>>> >> time but
>>>>> >> when
>>>>> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
>

Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
XS11E <xs11e[ at ]NOSPAMyahoo.com> 12/12/2008 5:04:55 PM
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Won't work on my keyboards, RC. I'm still using (and buying when I
> can find them) my old Northgate keyboards. Ctrl key next to the A,
> Alt key at the outside bottom edges, Caps Lock next to Shift, and
> function keys along the right hand side. And no Windows keys. At
> all. ;)

Don't blame you, I'm very fond of the IBM "Clicky" keyboards. I get
along very well w/o the Windows keys.



--
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Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 12/13/2008 5:51:45 AM
Yup, the Northgates have that same clicky feel. And weigh in at 2.4 kg (5
Lbs) apiece.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"XS11E" <xs11e[ at ]NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B72668F66CD2xs11eyahoocom[ at ]127.0.0.1...
[Quoted Text]
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>
>> Won't work on my keyboards, RC. I'm still using (and buying when I
>> can find them) my old Northgate keyboards. Ctrl key next to the A,
>> Alt key at the outside bottom edges, Caps Lock next to Shift, and
>> function keys along the right hand side. And no Windows keys. At
>> all. ;)
>
> Don't blame you, I'm very fond of the IBM "Clicky" keyboards. I get
> along very well w/o the Windows keys.
>
>
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Re: My computer hangs up and stops working at the Windows welcome
"John Barnes" <jbfoofy[ at ]nomailemail.com> 12/13/2008 2:45:15 PM
I've never had a computer that is frozen let me use any key, just the power
button. :-)

"R. C. White" <rc[ at ]grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:2EA5CF63-E802-4BF3-9C13-9853B690D54E[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi, KR.
>
> As Charlie says, chances are about 99+% that it's 32-bit.
>
> To test for sure, just remember <Win>+<Break>.
>
> Keyboards are not all the same, but most have the Windows key (often
> called Start or the Windows logo key) in the lower left, and the
> Pause/Break key in the upper right area. Use the Win key like a Shift key
> while you press the Break key. The System Properties page should pop up
> on your screen. While there have been some variations from one Windows
> version to the next, this has worked at least since Windows 95. (Control
> Panel | System should get you to the same screen, but <Win>+<Break> is
> quicker and always available, no matter what else your computer is doing.)
> Somewhere on that screen, it will say 64-bit - or not. SOME 32-bit
> versions say 32-bit, others are silent about this, but if it doesn't say
> 64-bit, then it's 32-bit. This screen doesn't tell you about your
> hardware, but it tells which OS you are running. Many users nowadays are
> running 32-bit Windows XP or Vista on a 64-bit CPU.
>
> Whenever asking for help in any NG nowadays, be sure to mention your full
> OS version. It eliminates a couple of layers of follow-up questions and
> should get your answer more quickly.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc[ at ]grandecom.net
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> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 0908 in Windows 7 x64 6801)
>
> "KR" <KR[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82CA811F-69F7-48F4-B30E-0BC5065DC442[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Thanks guys I will give your sugestions a try. As for wheather my OS is
>> 32bit
>> or 64bit I am not really sure. It is a retail box version of MS-Windows
>> XP
>> Pro. W/SP2........... The user manual and other paper work that came with
>> it
>> doesnot indicate one way or the other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>
>>> Also, try cutting the memory down to a single stick.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:64ACC144-7A14-425F-9B01-40B91E53BB05[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> > KR,
>>> > Is it Windows XP Pro 32-bit or 64-bit?
>>> > This is a 64-bit exclusive NG.
>>> > All that being said, the first step is to unplug as many unnecessary
>>> > devices
>>> > as you can and disable in BIOS unnecesary ports (serial, parallel,
>>> > etc.)
>>> > and
>>> > features.
>>> > Just make a bare metal installation and see what happens.
>>> > Installation of Windows on a SATA drive might require you to have an
>>> > "F6
>>> > disk", which is a floppy containing the SATA drivers to make the
>>> > installation
>>> > program "see" it.
>>> > Carlos
>>> >
>>> > "KR" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have just built at new gaming system and desided to load windows XP
>>> >> Pro
>>> >> as
>>> >> the main OS. At first it would not recognize the new SATA drive as a
>>> >> boot
>>> >> drive so I installed a new PATA drive. The OS installed ok this time
>>> >> but
>>> >> when
>>> >> it started to boot it froze up at the welcome screen.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can anyone offer any sugestions???????
>

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