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Hello all, I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference between the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a substancial dollar difference but what else?
Thanks, DanD
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OEM will be tied to your motherboard and when the motherboard dies the
os is suppose to die too. Retail is you can install on to any computer
but you can't use 2 computers with the same key.
> Hello all,
> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference
> between
> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a
> substancial
> dollar difference but what else?
>
> Thanks,
> DanD
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Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference between OEM and Retail.
Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the life of the computer. And then the licence dies with the dead computer! Non-transferable. And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the life of the computer. Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol.
Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st computer dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a phone call. 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!).
And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS for postage cost. OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. -- Mad Mike
"DanD" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hello all, > I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference between > the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a substancial > dollar difference but what else? > > Thanks, > DanD > > >
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In message <7K6Vk.674$ve.298[ at ]newsfe23.iad> "DanD" <dedley[ at ]coxx.net> was claimed to have wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Hello all, >I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference between >the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a substancial >dollar difference but what else?
Support and license policy.
The full version includes support from Microsoft, and can be transferred from one piece of hardware to another.
The OEM version is only supported by the OEM (in other words, you support yourself) and is tied to the first computer it is installed on and cannot be transferred.
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While these statements indicate the OEM version is tied to the first computer it is installed upon, it would be more correct to state the first computer upon which it is activated upon. (You can install to your heart's content. But, as with any version, it ain't valid until it's activated.)
Only live support from MS will be limited. Knowlege base, newgroups and forums are still available.
Lastly, you can upgrade any piece of hardware you want with the OEM version, including the motherboard, but at some point the amount of change will be considered a new computer and trigger the requirement for re-activation (and MS does not have to provide the activation string to keep it alive per the license if it is not the original make-up of the machine.) Typically, this is a fairly significant amount of change, although a new motherboard is almost always guaranteed to trip the wire. In the event re-activation is required, a phone call to the activation center stating a broken part was replaced and this is the only computer with this PID in use will get it reactivated. (I've swapped out graphics cards, added memory and a DVD player and not triggered the event.)
"DanD" <dedley[ at ]coxx.net> wrote in message news:7K6Vk.674$ve.298[ at ]newsfe23.iad...
[Quoted Text] > Hello all, > I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference between > the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a
substancial > dollar difference but what else? > > Thanks, > DanD > >
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You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the MOBO dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate.
"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference between > OEM and Retail. > > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the life > of > the computer. > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! > Non-transferable. > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the life of > the computer. > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. > > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st computer > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a phone > call. > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). > > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS for > postage cost. > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. > -- > Mad Mike > > > "DanD" wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference between >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a >> substancial >> dollar difference but what else? >> >> Thanks, >> DanD >> >> >>
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"Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:eMPfUywSJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > While these statements indicate the OEM version is tied to the first > computer it is installed upon, it would be more correct to state the first > computer upon which it is activated upon. (You can install to your heart's > content. But, as with any version, it ain't valid until it's activated.) > > Only live support from MS will be limited. Knowlege base, newgroups and > forums are still available. > > Lastly, you can upgrade any piece of hardware you want with the OEM > version, > including the motherboard, but at some point the amount of change will be > considered a new computer and trigger the requirement for re-activation > (and > MS does not have to provide the activation string to keep it alive per the > license if it is not the original make-up of the machine.) Typically, this > is a fairly significant amount of change, although a new motherboard is > almost always guaranteed to trip the wire. In the event re-activation is > required, a phone call to the activation center stating a broken part was > replaced and this is the only computer with this PID in use will get it > reactivated. (I've swapped out graphics cards, added memory and a DVD > player > and not triggered the event.) > > >
Alright,I guess the OEM version it is,I can't see Microsoft's extra support as being worth the extra $130 or so.. :-) Thanks for all the quick responses. DanD
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On a recent computer, that is the best way to go for someone who can do their own troubleshooting and/or find help here. Older machines which would be replaced before Windows 7 comes out would be best off with the Retail, generally.
"DanD" <dedley[ at ]coxx.net> wrote in message news:Q1gVk.6951$ya5.1631[ at ]newsfe19.iad...
[Quoted Text] > > "Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:eMPfUywSJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> While these statements indicate the OEM version is tied to the first >> computer it is installed upon, it would be more correct to state the >> first >> computer upon which it is activated upon. (You can install to your >> heart's >> content. But, as with any version, it ain't valid until it's activated.) >> >> Only live support from MS will be limited. Knowlege base, newgroups and >> forums are still available. >> >> Lastly, you can upgrade any piece of hardware you want with the OEM >> version, >> including the motherboard, but at some point the amount of change will be >> considered a new computer and trigger the requirement for re-activation >> (and >> MS does not have to provide the activation string to keep it alive per >> the >> license if it is not the original make-up of the machine.) Typically, >> this >> is a fairly significant amount of change, although a new motherboard is >> almost always guaranteed to trip the wire. In the event re-activation is >> required, a phone call to the activation center stating a broken part was >> replaced and this is the only computer with this PID in use will get it >> reactivated. (I've swapped out graphics cards, added memory and a DVD >> player >> and not triggered the event.) >> >> >> > Alright,I guess the OEM version it is,I can't see Microsoft's extra > support as being worth the extra $130 or so.. :-) > Thanks for all the quick responses. > DanD >
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AFAIK with the OEM version you can not upgrade/replace the MOBO unless you are replacing it with same MOBO as first activated on due to MOBO failure "DanD" <dedley[ at ]coxx.net> wrote in message news:Q1gVk.6951$ya5.1631[ at ]newsfe19.iad...
[Quoted Text] > > "Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:eMPfUywSJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> While these statements indicate the OEM version is tied to the first >> computer it is installed upon, it would be more correct to state the >> first >> computer upon which it is activated upon. (You can install to your >> heart's >> content. But, as with any version, it ain't valid until it's activated.) >> >> Only live support from MS will be limited. Knowlege base, newgroups and >> forums are still available. >> >> Lastly, you can upgrade any piece of hardware you want with the OEM >> version, >> including the motherboard, but at some point the amount of change will be >> considered a new computer and trigger the requirement for re-activation >> (and >> MS does not have to provide the activation string to keep it alive per >> the >> license if it is not the original make-up of the machine.) Typically, >> this >> is a fairly significant amount of change, although a new motherboard is >> almost always guaranteed to trip the wire. In the event re-activation is >> required, a phone call to the activation center stating a broken part was >> replaced and this is the only computer with this PID in use will get it >> reactivated. (I've swapped out graphics cards, added memory and a DVD >> player >> and not triggered the event.) >> >> >> > Alright,I guess the OEM version it is,I can't see Microsoft's extra > support as being worth the extra $130 or so.. :-) > Thanks for all the quick responses. > DanD >
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John, I wrote that to give the OP the extreme interpretation of reading the EULA. And you can upgrade the Mobo; you know that. Depends on what you say to MS!
-- Mad Mike
"John Barnes" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the MOBO > dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate. > > "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference between > > OEM and Retail. > > > > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the life > > of > > the computer. > > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! > > Non-transferable. > > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the life of > > the computer. > > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. > > > > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st computer > > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. > > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a phone > > call. > > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). > > > > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS for > > postage cost. > > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. > > -- > > Mad Mike > > > > > > "DanD" wrote: > > > >> Hello all, > >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference between > >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a > >> substancial > >> dollar difference but what else? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> DanD > >> > >> > >> > >
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Mike. What are you suggesting that you tell MS so that they will activate a purchased and activated OEM OS on a totally different MOBO? "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A34311D1-F017-45A1-9F6E-897C4C49DF43[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > John, I wrote that to give the OP the extreme interpretation of reading > the > EULA. > And you can upgrade the Mobo; you know that. > Depends on what you say to MS! > > -- > Mad Mike > > > "John Barnes" wrote: > >> You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the MOBO >> dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate. >> >> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference >> > between >> > OEM and Retail. >> > >> > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the >> > life >> > of >> > the computer. >> > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! >> > Non-transferable. >> > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the life >> > of >> > the computer. >> > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. >> > >> > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st >> > computer >> > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. >> > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a phone >> > call. >> > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). >> > >> > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS for >> > postage cost. >> > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. >> > -- >> > Mad Mike >> > >> > >> > "DanD" wrote: >> > >> >> Hello all, >> >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference >> >> between >> >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a >> >> substancial >> >> dollar difference but what else? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> DanD >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:23:53 -0800, "Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Mike. >What are you suggesting that you tell MS so that they will activate a >purchased and activated OEM OS on a totally different MOBO?
Simple: the old mobo died. Do NOT tell them that you upgraded.
>"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >news:A34311D1-F017-45A1-9F6E-897C4C49DF43[ at ]microsoft.com... >> John, I wrote that to give the OP the extreme interpretation of reading >> the >> EULA. >> And you can upgrade the Mobo; you know that. >> Depends on what you say to MS! >> >> -- >> Mad Mike >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote: >> >>> You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the MOBO >>> dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate. >>> >>> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference >>> > between >>> > OEM and Retail. >>> > >>> > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the >>> > life >>> > of >>> > the computer. >>> > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! >>> > Non-transferable. >>> > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the life >>> > of >>> > the computer. >>> > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. >>> > >>> > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st >>> > computer >>> > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. >>> > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a phone >>> > call. >>> > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). >>> > >>> > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS for >>> > postage cost. >>> > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. >>> > -- >>> > Mad Mike >>> > >>> > >>> > "DanD" wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hello all, >>> >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference >>> >> between >>> >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a >>> >> substancial >>> >> dollar difference but what else? >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> DanD >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>>
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AFAIK MS knows the make/model of the MOBO that was previously activated and will not let you activate the OEM version on another make/model MOBO. "Deet" <deetritus[ at ]garbage.com> wrote in message news:b4vbi41n1i7vshmjt831ppu0e0bl4v1dku[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text] > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:23:53 -0800, "Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> > wrote: > >>Mike. >>What are you suggesting that you tell MS so that they will activate a >>purchased and activated OEM OS on a totally different MOBO? > > Simple: the old mobo died. Do NOT tell them that you upgraded. > > >>"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>news:A34311D1-F017-45A1-9F6E-897C4C49DF43[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> John, I wrote that to give the OP the extreme interpretation of reading >>> the >>> EULA. >>> And you can upgrade the Mobo; you know that. >>> Depends on what you say to MS! >>> >>> -- >>> Mad Mike >>> >>> >>> "John Barnes" wrote: >>> >>>> You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the >>>> MOBO >>>> dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate. >>>> >>>> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference >>>> > between >>>> > OEM and Retail. >>>> > >>>> > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the >>>> > life >>>> > of >>>> > the computer. >>>> > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! >>>> > Non-transferable. >>>> > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the >>>> > life >>>> > of >>>> > the computer. >>>> > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. >>>> > >>>> > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st >>>> > computer >>>> > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. >>>> > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a >>>> > phone >>>> > call. >>>> > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). >>>> > >>>> > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS >>>> > for >>>> > postage cost. >>>> > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. >>>> > -- >>>> > Mad Mike >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > "DanD" wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Hello all, >>>> >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference >>>> >> between >>>> >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a >>>> >> substancial >>>> >> dollar difference but what else? >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> DanD >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>>
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:58:28 -0800, "Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >AFAIK MS knows the make/model of the MOBO that was previously activated and >will not let you activate the OEM version on another make/model MOBO.
A new key will be given. You can't always find the same board.
>"Deet" <deetritus[ at ]garbage.com> wrote in message >news:b4vbi41n1i7vshmjt831ppu0e0bl4v1dku[ at ]4ax.com... >> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:23:53 -0800, "Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Mike. >>>What are you suggesting that you tell MS so that they will activate a >>>purchased and activated OEM OS on a totally different MOBO? >> >> Simple: the old mobo died. Do NOT tell them that you upgraded. >> >> >>>"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>news:A34311D1-F017-45A1-9F6E-897C4C49DF43[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> John, I wrote that to give the OP the extreme interpretation of reading >>>> the >>>> EULA. >>>> And you can upgrade the Mobo; you know that. >>>> Depends on what you say to MS! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mad Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Barnes" wrote: >>>> >>>>> You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the >>>>> MOBO >>>>> dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate. >>>>> >>>>> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference >>>>> > between >>>>> > OEM and Retail. >>>>> > >>>>> > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the >>>>> > life >>>>> > of >>>>> > the computer. >>>>> > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! >>>>> > Non-transferable. >>>>> > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the >>>>> > life >>>>> > of >>>>> > the computer. >>>>> > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. >>>>> > >>>>> > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st >>>>> > computer >>>>> > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. >>>>> > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a >>>>> > phone >>>>> > call. >>>>> > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). >>>>> > >>>>> > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS >>>>> > for >>>>> > postage cost. >>>>> > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Mad Mike >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > "DanD" wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Hello all, >>>>> >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference >>>>> >> between >>>>> >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a >>>>> >> substancial >>>>> >> dollar difference but what else? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks, >>>>> >> DanD >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>
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You are too tied up with, and used to what goes on with Dell, etc, OEMs. Dell ties them to the Mobo. They have NOTHING to do with OEMs disks that we buy. -- Mad Mike
"Curious" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > AFAIK MS knows the make/model of the MOBO that was previously activated and > will not let you activate the OEM version on another make/model MOBO. > "Deet" <deetritus[ at ]garbage.com> wrote in message > news:b4vbi41n1i7vshmjt831ppu0e0bl4v1dku[ at ]4ax.com... > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:23:53 -0800, "Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>Mike. > >>What are you suggesting that you tell MS so that they will activate a > >>purchased and activated OEM OS on a totally different MOBO? > > > > Simple: the old mobo died. Do NOT tell them that you upgraded. > > > > > >>"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>news:A34311D1-F017-45A1-9F6E-897C4C49DF43[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>> John, I wrote that to give the OP the extreme interpretation of reading > >>> the > >>> EULA. > >>> And you can upgrade the Mobo; you know that. > >>> Depends on what you say to MS! > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Mad Mike > >>> > >>> > >>> "John Barnes" wrote: > >>> > >>>> You are free to upgrade any hardware except the MOBO (except if the > >>>> MOBO > >>>> dies) during the life of the install. You may have to re-activate. > >>>> > >>>> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:989E9246-8000-4D5A-94E4-A071019ABB67[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>>> > Version wise(Home Premium, etc), there is absolutely no difference > >>>> > between > >>>> > OEM and Retail. > >>>> > > >>>> > Once you instal the OEM version, it is tied to that computer for the > >>>> > life > >>>> > of > >>>> > the computer. > >>>> > And then the licence dies with the dead computer! > >>>> > Non-transferable. > >>>> > And, you are also NOT supposed to upgrade the Hardware during the > >>>> > life > >>>> > of > >>>> > the computer. > >>>> > Also, no microsoft support for OEM, lol. > >>>> > > >>>> > Retail, you can transfer licence to another computer, if the 1st > >>>> > computer > >>>> > dies, or you decide to upgrade to a better one. > >>>> > You can also upgrade hardware in original, and reactivate with a > >>>> > phone > >>>> > call. > >>>> > 3 or 6? months support from Microsoft(sorry, I only use OEM!). > >>>> > > >>>> > And if you buy Retail 32bit, you can get the 64bit version from MS > >>>> > for > >>>> > postage cost. > >>>> > OEM 32bit, you have to buy 64bit version. > >>>> > -- > >>>> > Mad Mike > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > "DanD" wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> Hello all, > >>>> >> I'm building a new computer and was wondering what the difference > >>>> >> between > >>>> >> the OEM and Retail version of Vista home premium is?There is a > >>>> >> substancial > >>>> >> dollar difference but what else? > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Thanks, > >>>> >> DanD > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> > >
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