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New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for
Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at the
maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the maximum
space available and the best choice?
Santander
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Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is little
advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single partition.
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"Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for
> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at
> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
> maximum space available and the best choice?
>
> Santander
>
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maybe 30 gig instead.
Santander wrote:
[Quoted Text] > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB
> for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at
> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
> maximum space available and the best choice?
>
> Santander
>
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it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when laptop come
with operating system?
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"David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is little > advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single partition. > > -- > > ---- > Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375> Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm> > > > "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message > news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP. >> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for >> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at >> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the >> maximum space available and the best choice? >> >> Santander >> >
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"Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for
> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at
> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
> maximum space available and the best choice?
>
> Santander
(Santander later adds...)
> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when laptop
> come with operating system?
Santander:
I would agree with David B.'s recommendation that a single partition
encompassing the entire disk space of your 250 GB HDD will work just fine.
In my opinion, for the overwhelming number of PC users, there's really
nothing wrong or particularly limiting with living with a single-partitioned
HDD. You can effectively organize your HDD by using folders to segregate
this or that major program or division of work. You need not multi-partition
your HDD unless you have some very special need for doing so such as
installing two operating systems on one physical HDD (although let me be
quick to add that except where there is no other recourse left open to the
user, i.e., he or she is unable or unwilling to use separate hard drives,
I'm not particularly enthusiastic about installing multiple operating
systems on a single HDD.)
The great advantage of having a single partition per physical HDD is its
simplicity. You never encounter the situation where the free space is in the
"wrong" partition nor is there ever a need to adjust partition size because
one's later need for more (or less) disk space has changed.
Many advocates of multi-partitioning schemes invoke the presumed advantage
of separating the operating system from one's programs/data. The presumed
advantage is that by doing so a significant level of security is thereby
introduced in that when the system goes down, only the OS need be
(re)installed and all of one's programs & data will be salvaged and brought
back to life. It's an illusion. In "real-life" it never seems to work out
that way (especially in an XP OS environment). Time & time again we run into
that common situation where the user finds this or that "partition" needs to
be expanded, or shrunk, or merged, but there's no way to accomplish this
without third-party tools and the inherent danger of data loss that can
occur through the partition-manipulation process.
By & large, the *real* answer to securing one's system is creating &
maintaining a comprehensive backup system that the user employs on a routine
& systematic basis. So that when one's day-to-day HDD fails or the system
becomes dysfunctional and unable to boot, one can effectively recover from
that disaster with a minimum of effort. My own preference is to use a
disk-cloning program such as the Casper 5 program, but there are other
disk-cloning & disk-imaging programs such as Acronis True Image or
Symantec's Norton Ghost program that will also do the job. And, of course,
there are other backup strategies one can employ based on the user's needs.
But establishing & maintaining a backup system is the crucial point for
security - not multi-partitioning one's HDD either for security or thinking
it will provide enhanced performance of the system.
Anyway, think hard & long before you multi-partition your HDD. And if you
conclude that multi-partitioning your HDD is the most desirable course of
action in your particular circumstances, then go ahead and partition away.
But even if you do - please establish and use on a routine basis a backup
system that meets your needs.That should be your crucial objective.
Anna
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Santander
A number of manufacturers do not supply operating system disks. They put
a copy of the operating system in a restore partition.
Unless the user has a third party partition manager a partitioned drive
can prove inflexible. Partitions are useful if you can readily change
their size. Ease of backup to a source independent of the master hard
drive should be considered. Having a second hard drive opens up options
like a dedicated pagefile partition. Separating files that rapidly
fragment from those that don't ( archives) makes for easier maintenance.
Remember if you need to clean install your operating system you will
need to reinstall all programmes. You do not need to reinstall data
files so this is an argument for separation.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Santander wrote:
[Quoted Text] > it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when > laptop come with operating system? > > ------------ > > "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message > news:OXb33kpaJHA.5392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is little >> advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single partition. >> >> -- >> >> ---- >> Crosspost, do not multipost >> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm>> >> >> >> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message >> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP. >>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one >>> 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one >>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number >>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice? >>> >>> Santander
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:03:51 +0200, "Santander"
<santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for
> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at the
> maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the maximum
> space available and the best choice?
How many partitions you should have and how big each should be depends
on you and what you have on the computer. There is no single answer
that's right for everyone.
I recommend that you read this article I recently wrote:
"Understanding Disk Partitioning" at
http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326
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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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well, but if we create separate partition (20Gb) just only for operating
system, we never will worry about changing it size, because there will be
only OS, not programs or data?
Santander
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Santander > > A number of manufacturers do not supply operating system disks. They put a > copy of the operating system in a restore partition. > > Unless the user has a third party partition manager a partitioned drive > can prove inflexible. Partitions are useful if you can readily change > their size. Ease of backup to a source independent of the master hard > drive should be considered. Having a second hard drive opens up options > like a dedicated pagefile partition. Separating files that rapidly > fragment from those that don't ( archives) makes for easier maintenance. > > Remember if you need to clean install your operating system you will need > to reinstall all programmes. You do not need to reinstall data files so > this is an argument for separation. > > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Santander wrote: >> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when >> laptop come with operating system? >> >> ------------ >> >> "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message >> news:OXb33kpaJHA.5392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is little >>> advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single partition. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ---- >>> Crosspost, do not multipost >>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You >>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm>>> >>> >>> >>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message >>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP. >>>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one >>>> 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one >>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number >>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice? >>>> >>>> Santander > >
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If the OS is replaced the programs will have to be reinstalled anyway.
that means partitioning is pointless exercise.
Santander wrote:
[Quoted Text] > well, but if we create separate partition (20Gb) just only for operating > system, we never will worry about changing it size, because there will > be only OS, not programs or data? > > Santander > > > "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message > news:erNrNYqaJHA.2124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> Santander >> >> A number of manufacturers do not supply operating system disks. They >> put a copy of the operating system in a restore partition. >> >> Unless the user has a third party partition manager a partitioned >> drive can prove inflexible. Partitions are useful if you can readily >> change their size. Ease of backup to a source independent of the >> master hard drive should be considered. Having a second hard drive >> opens up options like a dedicated pagefile partition. Separating files >> that rapidly fragment from those that don't ( archives) makes for >> easier maintenance. >> >> Remember if you need to clean install your operating system you will >> need to reinstall all programmes. You do not need to reinstall data >> files so this is an argument for separation. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> Santander wrote: >> >>> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when >>> laptop come with operating system? >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message >>> news:OXb33kpaJHA.5392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>>> Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is little >>>> advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single partition. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Crosspost, do not multipost >>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You >>>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message >>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP. >>>>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one >>>>> 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one >>>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number >>>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice? >>>>> >>>>> Santander >> >> >> >
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Partitioning only creates a problem if the user does not have a third
party partitioning utility.
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Anna wrote:
[Quoted Text] > "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one
>> 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one
>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number
>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice?
>>
>> Santander
>
> (Santander later adds...)
>> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when
>> laptop come with operating system?
>
>
> Santander:
> I would agree with David B.'s recommendation that a single partition
> encompassing the entire disk space of your 250 GB HDD will work just
> fine.
> In my opinion, for the overwhelming number of PC users, there's really
> nothing wrong or particularly limiting with living with a
> single-partitioned HDD. You can effectively organize your HDD by
> using folders to segregate this or that major program or division of
> work. You need not multi-partition your HDD unless you have some very
> special need for doing so such as installing two operating systems on
> one physical HDD (although let me be quick to add that except where
> there is no other recourse left open to the user, i.e., he or she is
> unable or unwilling to use separate hard drives, I'm not particularly
> enthusiastic about installing multiple operating systems on a single
> HDD.)
> The great advantage of having a single partition per physical HDD is
> its simplicity. You never encounter the situation where the free
> space is in the "wrong" partition nor is there ever a need to adjust
> partition size because one's later need for more (or less) disk space
> has changed.
> Many advocates of multi-partitioning schemes invoke the presumed
> advantage of separating the operating system from one's
> programs/data. The presumed advantage is that by doing so a
> significant level of security is thereby introduced in that when the
> system goes down, only the OS need be (re)installed and all of one's
> programs & data will be salvaged and brought back to life. It's an
> illusion. In "real-life" it never seems to work out that way
> (especially in an XP OS environment). Time & time again we run into
> that common situation where the user finds this or that "partition"
> needs to be expanded, or shrunk, or merged, but there's no way to
> accomplish this without third-party tools and the inherent danger of
> data loss that can occur through the partition-manipulation process.
> By & large, the *real* answer to securing one's system is creating &
> maintaining a comprehensive backup system that the user employs on a
> routine & systematic basis. So that when one's day-to-day HDD fails
> or the system becomes dysfunctional and unable to boot, one can
> effectively recover from that disaster with a minimum of effort. My
> own preference is to use a disk-cloning program such as the Casper 5
> program, but there are other disk-cloning & disk-imaging programs
> such as Acronis True Image or Symantec's Norton Ghost program that
> will also do the job. And, of course, there are other backup
> strategies one can employ based on the user's needs. But establishing
> & maintaining a backup system is the crucial point for security - not
> multi-partitioning one's HDD either for security or thinking it will
> provide enhanced performance of the system.
> Anyway, think hard & long before you multi-partition your HDD. And if
> you conclude that multi-partitioning your HDD is the most desirable
> course of action in your particular circumstances, then go ahead and
> partition away. But even if you do - please establish and use on a
> routine basis a backup system that meets your needs.That should be
> your crucial objective. Anna
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"Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >
> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for
> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at
> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
> maximum space available and the best choice?
>
> Santander
>
My preference would be a single large disk, with a USB external drive for
backups/images. If your hard drive dies it won't matter how many partitions
you have.
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Not true, almost any application you install will install support files or
dll's on the system drive, nothing you can do about it. If for some reason I
partitioned, I would do at least 40-60GB for the OS.
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"Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > well, but if we create separate partition (20Gb) just only for operating > system, we never will worry about changing it size, because there will be > only OS, not programs or data? > > Santander > > > "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message > news:erNrNYqaJHA.2124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Santander >> >> A number of manufacturers do not supply operating system disks. They put >> a copy of the operating system in a restore partition. >> >> Unless the user has a third party partition manager a partitioned drive >> can prove inflexible. Partitions are useful if you can readily change >> their size. Ease of backup to a source independent of the master hard >> drive should be considered. Having a second hard drive opens up options >> like a dedicated pagefile partition. Separating files that rapidly >> fragment from those that don't ( archives) makes for easier maintenance. >> >> Remember if you need to clean install your operating system you will need >> to reinstall all programmes. You do not need to reinstall data files so >> this is an argument for separation. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> Santander wrote: >>> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when >>> laptop come with operating system? >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message >>> news:OXb33kpaJHA.5392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is little >>>> advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single partition. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Crosspost, do not multipost >>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You >>>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message >>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP. >>>>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one >>>>> 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one >>>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number >>>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice? >>>>> >>>>> Santander >> >> >
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"Anna" <myname[ at ]myisp.net> wrote in message news:O6iWfXqaJHA.2124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >
> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB for Win XP and
>> programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at the maximum
>> size possible? so the default number provided will be the maximum space available and
>> the best choice?
>>
>> Santander
>
> (Santander later adds...)
>> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when laptop come with
>> operating system?
>
>
> Santander:
> I would agree with David B.'s recommendation that a single partition encompassing the
> entire disk space of your 250 GB HDD will work just fine.
>
> In my opinion, for the overwhelming number of PC users, there's really nothing wrong or
> particularly limiting with living with a single-partitioned HDD. You can effectively
> organize your HDD by using folders to segregate this or that major program or division
> of work. You need not multi-partition your HDD unless you have some very special need
> for doing so such as installing two operating systems on one physical HDD (although let
> me be quick to add that except where there is no other recourse left open to the user,
> i.e., he or she is unable or unwilling to use separate hard drives, I'm not particularly
> enthusiastic about installing multiple operating systems on a single HDD.)
>
> The great advantage of having a single partition per physical HDD is its simplicity. You
> never encounter the situation where the free space is in the "wrong" partition nor is
> there ever a need to adjust partition size because one's later need for more (or less)
> disk space has changed.
>
> Many advocates of multi-partitioning schemes invoke the presumed advantage of separating
> the operating system from one's programs/data. The presumed advantage is that by doing
> so a significant level of security is thereby introduced in that when the system goes
> down, only the OS need be (re)installed and all of one's programs & data will be
> salvaged and brought back to life. It's an illusion. In "real-life" it never seems to
> work out that way (especially in an XP OS environment). Time & time again we run into
> that common situation where the user finds this or that "partition" needs to be
> expanded, or shrunk, or merged, but there's no way to accomplish this without
> third-party tools and the inherent danger of data loss that can occur through the
> partition-manipulation process.
>
> By & large, the *real* answer to securing one's system is creating & maintaining a
> comprehensive backup system that the user employs on a routine & systematic basis. So
> that when one's day-to-day HDD fails or the system becomes dysfunctional and unable to
> boot, one can effectively recover from that disaster with a minimum of effort. My own
> preference is to use a disk-cloning program such as the Casper 5 program, but there are
> other disk-cloning & disk-imaging programs such as Acronis True Image or Symantec's
> Norton Ghost program that will also do the job. And, of course, there are other backup
> strategies one can employ based on the user's needs. But establishing & maintaining a
> backup system is the crucial point for security - not multi-partitioning one's HDD
> either for security or thinking it will provide enhanced performance of the system.
>
> Anyway, think hard & long before you multi-partition your HDD. And if you conclude that
> multi-partitioning your HDD is the most desirable course of action in your particular
> circumstances, then go ahead and partition away. But even if you do - please establish
> and use on a routine basis a backup system that meets your needs.That should be your
> crucial objective.
> Anna
>
>
I've never had multiple partitions for security reasons. I have multiple partitions to
separate different aspects of my work.
Makes it so much easier than one huge partition.
As a side advantage, it makes the occassional defragmentation so much faster.
Galen
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Bob
So make it 30 gb and include the programmes. However, it is still better
to have a third party partitioning utility.
--
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bob I wrote:
[Quoted Text] > If the OS is replaced the programs will have to be reinstalled anyway. > that means partitioning is pointless exercise. > > Santander wrote: > >> well, but if we create separate partition (20Gb) just only for >> operating system, we never will worry about changing it size, >> because there will be only OS, not programs or data? >> >> Santander >> >> >> "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:erNrNYqaJHA.2124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >>> Santander >>> >>> A number of manufacturers do not supply operating system disks. They >>> put a copy of the operating system in a restore partition. >>> >>> Unless the user has a third party partition manager a partitioned >>> drive can prove inflexible. Partitions are useful if you can readily >>> change their size. Ease of backup to a source independent of the >>> master hard drive should be considered. Having a second hard drive >>> opens up options like a dedicated pagefile partition. Separating >>> files that rapidly fragment from those that don't ( archives) makes >>> for easier maintenance. >>> >>> Remember if you need to clean install your operating system you will >>> need to reinstall all programmes. You do not need to reinstall data >>> files so this is an argument for separation. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Gerry >>> ~~~~ >>> FCA >>> Stourport, England >>> Enquire, plan and execute >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> Santander wrote: >>> >>>> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when >>>> laptop come with operating system? >>>> >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message >>>> news:OXb33kpaJHA.5392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>>> Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is >>>>> little advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single >>>>> partition. -- >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> Crosspost, do not multipost >>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You >>>>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message >>>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows >>>>>> XP. Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, >>>>>> one 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >>>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one >>>>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number >>>>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best >>>>>> choice? Santander
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Santander
I would not separate the operating system from programmes. By all means
keep data separate. Be over generous for the partition containing
operating system and programmes as that is where the pinch will come.
Does your computer have the capacity to take a second drive? Given that
it is a laptop perhaps it does not?
What will you be using the laptop for? Will you be storing large files
like videos?
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
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Santander wrote:
[Quoted Text] > well, but if we create separate partition (20Gb) just only for > operating system, we never will worry about changing it size, > because there will be only OS, not programs or data? > > Santander > > > "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message > news:erNrNYqaJHA.2124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Santander >> >> A number of manufacturers do not supply operating system disks. They >> put a copy of the operating system in a restore partition. >> >> Unless the user has a third party partition manager a partitioned >> drive can prove inflexible. Partitions are useful if you can readily >> change their size. Ease of backup to a source independent of the >> master hard drive should be considered. Having a second hard drive >> opens up options like a dedicated pagefile partition. Separating >> files that rapidly fragment from those that don't ( archives) makes >> for easier maintenance. Remember if you need to clean install your >> operating system you will >> need to reinstall all programmes. You do not need to reinstall data >> files so this is an argument for separation. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> Santander wrote: >>> it seems, notebook manufacturers usually set 20Gb partition when >>> laptop come with operating system? >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote in message >>> news:OXb33kpaJHA.5392[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Any answers you receive are just personal preference, there is >>>> little advantage to either option, my .02 is use a single >>>> partition. -- >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Crosspost, do not multipost >>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You >>>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message >>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows >>>>> XP. Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, >>>>> one 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)? >>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one >>>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number >>>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice? >>>>> >>>>> Santander
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Yep.
Gerry wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Bob
>
> So make it 30 gb and include the programmes. However, it is still better
> to have a third party partitioning utility.
>
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I recently asked notebook manufacturer about partitions, he say me that 20Gb
partition would be more than enough for Windows XP, and recommend to set two
or three partitions, "but not one". 20Gb will be enough for win XP SP3 also?
S.
"Thip" <me[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
news:6rvb0qF3hgu1U1[ at ]mid.individual.net...
[Quoted Text] >
> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> > Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB
for
> > Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> > Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at
> > the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
> > maximum space available and the best choice?
> >
> > Santander
> >
>
> My preference would be a single large disk, with a USB external drive for
> backups/images. If your hard drive dies it won't matter how many
partitions
> you have.
>
>
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The date and time was Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:30:17 AM, and on a
whim, Bob I pounded out on the keyboard:
[Quoted Text] > If the OS is replaced the programs will have to be reinstalled anyway.
> that means partitioning is pointless exercise.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
>>>>>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one
>>>>>> 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
>>>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one
>>>>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number
>>>>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best choice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Santander
>>>
>>>
>
It's not pointless. Some people prefer to separate items and use
partitions and hard drives to do so.
I have my OS('s) on C:, data on D: and programs on E:. If I need to
replace the OS partition from a backup, I don't need to reinstall all
the programs. If I've installed programs since the last backup, I
restore both C: & E:, as they are always backed up together.
None of my OS drives are larger than 6 gig. The programs drive (E:) is
shared by all OS's. So I don't have 5 installs of the same programs on
5 different partitions (that is slowly changing as older OS's are no
longer supported).
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The date and time was Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:39:06 AM, and on a
whim, David B. pounded out on the keyboard:
[Quoted Text] > Not true, almost any application you install will install support files or
> dll's on the system drive, nothing you can do about it. If for some reason I
> partitioned, I would do at least 40-60GB for the OS.
>
Hi David,
While 40-60 gig isn't a big deal with the size of drives now, having
just the OS on a separate partition won't require near that. I have 5
OS's on partitions and none of them are over 6 gig (with currently 1.5
gig free). The only thing someone needs to watch is the multiple
instances of install files that Windows and other programs place all
over, which can total into multiple gigs.
But I'm a consultant and enjoy keeping my system lean. But for those
that are mainly average computer users, partitioning isn't a necessity.
They just need to know that a good backup schedule is.
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"SANTANDER" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
news:%23FL8hWsaJHA.796[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I recently asked notebook manufacturer about partitions, he say me that
>20Gb
> partition would be more than enough for Windows XP, and recommend to set
> two
> or three partitions, "but not one". 20Gb will be enough for win XP SP3
> also?
>
> S.
>
>
> "Thip" <me[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:6rvb0qF3hgu1U1[ at ]mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
>> > Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB
> for
>> > Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
>> > Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition
>> > at
>> > the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
>> > maximum space available and the best choice?
>> >
>> > Santander
>> >
With computing the way it is today, I think (and this is *only* my opinion)
that partitioning is pretty much a thing of the past. I stopped when
external USB drives became available. I do have 2 drives in my machine, one
of which I use for My Documents, etc., but I make regular backups to my
external drives.
My fear has always been that my main drive will die (and it's happened).
With regular backups and a new drive, I can be back up and running in 30
minutes with virtually no important data loss.
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:30:14 +0200, "SANTANDER"
<santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I recently asked notebook manufacturer about partitions, he say me that 20Gb
> partition would be more than enough for Windows XP,
Be very wary of his advice. Depending on exactly what you keep in that
partition, it may or may not be enough. Assuming that you keep your
installed programs there (which is best for most people0 it is very
likely not enough.
> and recommend to set two
> or three partitions, "but not one".
As I said in an earlier message in this thread, that's very poor
advice. There is no single answer that's right, and two or three may
be best for some people, but one is best for others.
> 20Gb will be enough for win XP SP3 also?
>
> S.
>
>
> "Thip" <me[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:6rvb0qF3hgu1U1[ at ]mid.individual.net...
> >
> > "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
> > news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
> > > Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB
> for
> > > Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
> > > Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition at
> > > the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
> > > maximum space available and the best choice?
> > >
> > > Santander
> > >
> >
> > My preference would be a single large disk, with a USB external drive for
> > backups/images. If your hard drive dies it won't matter how many
> partitions
> > you have.
> >
> >
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If you keep your installed programs in the same partition, 30 GB, or even 40
GB (I'm using that), would be much more appropriate. 20 GB is too small.
(unless that partition is ONLY used for the operating system, which I
wouldn't recommend).
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:30:14 +0200, "SANTANDER"
> <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote:
>
>> I recently asked notebook manufacturer about partitions, he say me that
>> 20Gb
>> partition would be more than enough for Windows XP,
>
>
> Be very wary of his advice. Depending on exactly what you keep in that
> partition, it may or may not be enough. Assuming that you keep your
> installed programs there (which is best for most people0 it is very
> likely not enough.
>
>
>> and recommend to set two
>> or three partitions, "but not one".
>
>
> As I said in an earlier message in this thread, that's very poor
> advice. There is no single answer that's right, and two or three may
> be best for some people, but one is best for others.
>
>
>
>> 20Gb will be enough for win XP SP3 also?
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
>> "Thip" <me[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:6rvb0qF3hgu1U1[ at ]mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows XP.
>>>> Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions, one 20GB
>>>> for
>>>> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one partition
>>>> at
>>>> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be the
>>>> maximum space available and the best choice?
>>>>
>>>> Santander
>>>>
>>>
>>> My preference would be a single large disk, with a USB external drive
>>> for
>>> backups/images. If your hard drive dies it won't matter how many
>>> partitions
>>> you have.
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Terry
My worry with your suggestion is restoring an image of the operating
system without the related programmes stand to break links from registry
to programmes and from programmes to registry. Would it not be better to
do all at the same time?
I also have difficulty with your proposition that more than one
operating system can share a programme.
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Terry R. wrote:
[Quoted Text] > The date and time was Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:30:17 AM, and on a
> whim, Bob I pounded out on the keyboard:
>
>> If the OS is replaced the programs will have to be reinstalled
>> anyway. that means partitioning is pointless exercise.
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows
>>>>>>> XP. Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two
>>>>>>> partitions, one 20GB for Win XP and programs (C), and the rest
>>>>>>> for data (D)? Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just
>>>>>>> create one
>>>>>>> partition at the maximum size possible? so the default number
>>>>>>> provided will be the maximum space available and the best
>>>>>>> choice? Santander
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
> It's not pointless. Some people prefer to separate items and use
> partitions and hard drives to do so.
>
> I have my OS('s) on C:, data on D: and programs on E:. If I need to
> replace the OS partition from a backup, I don't need to reinstall all
> the programs. If I've installed programs since the last backup, I
> restore both C: & E:, as they are always backed up together.
>
> None of my OS drives are larger than 6 gig. The programs drive (E:)
> is shared by all OS's. So I don't have 5 installs of the same
> programs on 5 different partitions (that is slowly changing as older
> OS's are no longer supported).
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Did it really bad use (C:) partition for operating system only? Is there any
reason to keep installed programs in the same (C:) partition?
As far I understand the new laptops with windows XP come with 2 partitions,
where operating system is in (C:) partition, 20GB?
S.
"Bill in Co." wrote:
[Quoted Text] > If you keep your installed programs in the same partition, 30 GB, or even
40
> GB (I'm using that), would be much more appropriate. 20 GB is too small.
> (unless that partition is ONLY used for the operating system, which I
> wouldn't recommend).
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Bill
My operating system partition is 24.4 gb. It contains Windows XP SP3,
programmes and pagefile. Used space 10.9 gb and free space 13.5 gb. Data
files elsewhere.
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Bill in Co. wrote:
[Quoted Text] > If you keep your installed programs in the same partition, 30 GB, or
> even 40 GB (I'm using that), would be much more appropriate. 20 GB
> is too small. (unless that partition is ONLY used for the operating
> system, which I wouldn't recommend).
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:30:14 +0200, "SANTANDER"
>> <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently asked notebook manufacturer about partitions, he say me
>>> that 20Gb
>>> partition would be more than enough for Windows XP,
>>
>>
>> Be very wary of his advice. Depending on exactly what you keep in
>> that partition, it may or may not be enough. Assuming that you keep
>> your installed programs there (which is best for most people0 it is
>> very likely not enough.
>>
>>
>>> and recommend to set two
>>> or three partitions, "but not one".
>>
>>
>> As I said in an earlier message in this thread, that's very poor
>> advice. There is no single answer that's right, and two or three may
>> be best for some people, but one is best for others.
>>
>>
>>
>>> 20Gb will be enough for win XP SP3 also?
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Thip" <me[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6rvb0qF3hgu1U1[ at ]mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Santander" <santander[ at ]microsoft.news> wrote in message
>>>> news:eiaS3gpaJHA.4276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> New laptop without OS, 250GB hard drive. I plan install windows
>>>>> XP. Does it make sense to divide hard drive into two partitions,
>>>>> one 20GB for
>>>>> Win XP and programs (C), and the rest for data (D)?
>>>>> Will 20GB enough for C partition? Or better just create one
>>>>> partition at
>>>>> the maximum size possible? so the default number provided will be
>>>>> the maximum space available and the best choice?
>>>>>
>>>>> Santander
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My preference would be a single large disk, with a USB external
>>>> drive for
>>>> backups/images. If your hard drive dies it won't matter how many
>>>> partitions
>>>> you have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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