HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> 10/25/2008 11:50:55 PM I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery and neither one has winload.exe I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 Lenster <sno_brd[ at ]comcastYourNightgown.net> 10/26/2008 1:54:08 PM On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:50:55 -0700, "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote: [Quoted Text] >I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of >Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do >an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. > > >250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but >when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message >from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, >missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can >get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista >install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery >and neither one has winload.exe > >I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. > >I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. > >Thanks I have never done a clone, but I have used TI to backup and restore my XP and Vista systems many times and to different drives. This may seem like a PIA, but you might want to try. With your old drive installed and your new drive hooked up as a secondary (or USB), create a primary partition at the front of your new drive big enough to hold your VISTA partition then create a logical partition to hold a backup image of your old drive. Do a backup of your Vista partition on your old drive to the logical partition on the new drive. Put the new drive in place and boot the Acronis recovery CD. Then do a restore from the logical partition containing the backup to the primary partition of the new drive. See if that will boot. If it does, you can then delete the logical partition and use a partition manage to enlarge or shrink the primary as you see fit.

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> 10/26/2008 5:46:13 PM With the disk in a USB enclosure I doubt that a boot sector was written to it. Cloning disks with Acronis is intended to be done with both disks connected to an onboard controller and the source disk must be disconnected before booting from the cloned disk. Without a Vista installation disk you probably cannot repair the cloned installation. If you can borrow a Vista disk you may be able to create a boot sector and MBR with Vista's repair functions. Possibly Compaq will supply a Vista disk for a fee. "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote in message news:umrVDyvNJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of Acronis >10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do an >autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. > > > 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but > when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message > from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, missing > or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can get > winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista install > disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery and neither > one has winload.exe > > I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. > > I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/26/2008 6:28:18 PM The normal procedure would be to insert your Vista DVD and then choose the 'repair' option. The repair option repairs startup problems. A recovery CD does exist (See http://mintywhite.com/tech/vista/download-a-windows-vista-recovery-disc/ ). I'm not sure whether this will cure your problem, but it is worth a try. If it doesn't work then your only option is to borrow a Vista DVD. -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Lenster" <sno_brd[ at ]comcastYourNightgown.net> wrote in message news:g0t8g4lis27jd120lmufhes0pjrtsg55i8[ at ]4ax.com... [Quoted Text] > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:50:55 -0700, "George W. Barrowcliff" > <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote: > >>I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of >>Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do >>an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. >> >> >>250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but >>when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message >>from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, >>missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can >>get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista >>install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery >>and neither one has winload.exe >> >>I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. >> >>I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. >> >>Thanks > > I have never done a clone, but I have used TI to backup and restore my > XP and Vista systems many times and to different drives. > > This may seem like a PIA, but you might want to try. > > With your old drive installed and your new drive hooked up as a > secondary (or USB), create a primary partition at the front of your > new drive big enough to hold your VISTA partition then create a > logical partition to hold a backup image of your old drive. > > Do a backup of your Vista partition on your old drive to the logical > partition on the new drive. > > Put the new drive in place and boot the Acronis recovery CD. Then do a > restore from the logical partition containing the backup to the > primary partition of the new drive. See if that will boot. > > If it does, you can then delete the logical partition and use a > partition manage to enlarge or shrink the primary as you see fit. >

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "DL" <address[ at ]invalid> 10/26/2008 8:07:10 PM A clone to usb connected drive works fine using TI, at least it allways has for me. "Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23hXPHL5NJHA.1488[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > With the disk in a USB enclosure I doubt that a boot sector was written to > it. Cloning disks with Acronis is intended to be done with both disks > connected to an onboard controller and the source disk must be > disconnected before booting from the cloned disk. > > Without a Vista installation disk you probably cannot repair the cloned > installation. > > If you can borrow a Vista disk you may be able to create a boot sector and > MBR with Vista's repair functions. Possibly Compaq will supply a Vista > disk for a fee. > > > > "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote in message > news:umrVDyvNJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of >>Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do an >>autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. >> >> >> 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but >> when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message >> from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, >> missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can >> get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista >> install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery >> and neither one has winload.exe >> >> I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. >> >> I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/26/2008 9:34:38 PM "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote in message news:umrVDyvNJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of > Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do > an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. > > > 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but > when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message > from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, > missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can > get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista > install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery > and neither one has winload.exe > > I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. > > I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks Did you shut the machine down right after the clone was made? If you rebooted with the USB drive still attached, the drive letter would be changed.

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> 10/26/2008 11:16:16 PM John's suggestion is on target, but you should first check to make sure your BIOS boot priorities are set to boot the new drive where it is hooked up. You should also make sure you are using the same socket on the mobo as your original drive was installed on. "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:u3X4di5NJHA.4832[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > The normal procedure would be to insert your Vista DVD and then choose the > 'repair' option. The repair option repairs startup problems. A recovery CD > does exist (See > http://mintywhite.com/tech/vista/download-a-windows-vista-recovery-disc/ ). > I'm not sure whether this will cure your problem, but it is worth a try. > If it doesn't work then your only option is to borrow a Vista DVD. > > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Windows XP Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org > Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com > > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of > the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Lenster" <sno_brd[ at ]comcastYourNightgown.net> wrote in message > news:g0t8g4lis27jd120lmufhes0pjrtsg55i8[ at ]4ax.com... >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:50:55 -0700, "George W. Barrowcliff" >> <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote: >> >>>I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of >>>Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do >>>an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. >>> >>> >>>250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but >>>when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message >>>from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, >>>missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can >>>get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista >>>install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery >>>and neither one has winload.exe >>> >>>I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. >>> >>>I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. >>> >>>Thanks >> >> I have never done a clone, but I have used TI to backup and restore my >> XP and Vista systems many times and to different drives. >> >> This may seem like a PIA, but you might want to try. >> >> With your old drive installed and your new drive hooked up as a >> secondary (or USB), create a primary partition at the front of your >> new drive big enough to hold your VISTA partition then create a >> logical partition to hold a backup image of your old drive. >> >> Do a backup of your Vista partition on your old drive to the logical >> partition on the new drive. >> >> Put the new drive in place and boot the Acronis recovery CD. Then do a >> restore from the logical partition containing the backup to the >> primary partition of the new drive. See if that will boot. >> >> If it does, you can then delete the logical partition and use a >> partition manage to enlarge or shrink the primary as you see fit. >>

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> 10/27/2008 6:12:34 PM Make sure that the partition with the boot files on the new drive is marked 'active' "GWB" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote in message news:e35UhsFOJHA.4760[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > OK, I have tried a number of other things, none of which worked so far. I > made the compaq recovery DVD's necessary for the recovery of Vista. So I > do > have these. > > I cloned from the laptop to a usb connected drive, then removed the > original > drive and replaced it with the new one so it was not connected as usb when > I > rebooted. > > I can try the primary partition, logical partition scheme next. It takes > 3 > hours for each attempt since the original is about 85 GB. > > Thanks for your inputs. > > gWB > > > "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message > news:#Zy2lJ7NJHA.3480[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote in message >> news:umrVDyvNJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of >> > Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do >> > an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. >> > >> > >> > 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but >> > when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message >> > from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, >> > missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can >> > get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista >> > install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery >> > and neither one has winload.exe >> > >> > I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. >> > >> > I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. >> > >> > Thanks >> >> >> Did you shut the machine down right after the clone was made? >> >> If you rebooted with the USB drive still attached, the drive letter would > be >> changed. >> >> >> > >

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 Ipkins <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/28/2008 12:14:24 PM George W. Barrowcliff;870745 Wrote: > I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of > Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do > an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. > > > 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but > when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message > from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, > missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can > get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista > install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery > and neither one has winload.exe > > I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. > > I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks Hello! I've found a guide which is explaining step by step how to create * Acronis Bootable USB Hard Disk* . Chek this +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: acronis_bootable_usb_hd.pdf | |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7578 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Ipkins

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 "GWB" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> 10/28/2008 5:42:13 PM OK, I have tried a number of other things, none of which worked so far. I made the compaq recovery DVD's necessary for the recovery of Vista. So I do have these. I cloned from the laptop to a usb connected drive, then removed the original drive and replaced it with the new one so it was not connected as usb when I rebooted. I can try the primary partition, logical partition scheme next. It takes 3 hours for each attempt since the original is about 85 GB. Thanks for your inputs. gWB "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message news:#Zy2lJ7NJHA.3480[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > > "George W. Barrowcliff" <george.barrowcliff[ at ]flash.net> wrote in message > news:umrVDyvNJHA.1160[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > I upgraded my 100 GB to a new 250 GB by using the clone function of > > Acronis 10 on my Compaq Laptop with Vista Home. I set the clone to do > > an autoverify afterwards and it completed with no errors. > > > > > > 250 GB was hooked up as a USB drive and clone went without problems but > > when I replaced the 100 with the 250 and tried to boot, I get a message > > from a black screen "unable to load \windows\system32\winload.exe, > > missing or corrupt" Suggests to put in the Vista install cd so it can > > get winload.exe from there. Unfortunately I do not have the Vista > > install disks, all I have are the two DVD's I made for system recovery > > and neither one has winload.exe > > > > I ran the disk diagnostic from the bios for two hours with no errors. > > > > I'm stuck, any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > Did you shut the machine down right after the clone was made? > > If you rebooted with the USB drive still attached, the drive letter would be > changed. > > >

Re: HD Upgrade with Acronis 10 irvinepogi[ at ]gmail.com 10/29/2008 3:23:33 AM Update: I found a download for the start environment for Vista that is supposed to cure the "can't find winlogon.exe" issue and made a cd with it on it. I have tried a number of things, none of which worked satisfactorily. The big issue is: The boot drive comes up as F: and I have done everything I can think of to change it back to C: but have had zero success. i tried backing up the bcdedit of the working drive and copied it onto the clone/restored but it still comes up as F: I used Paragon Partition Manager to remove the disk letters hoping it would start in the normal sequence but didn't. I think the restore is good, how can I make that blasted boot drive come up as C:??????????????????????? TIA, GWB [Quoted Text] > Hello! > I've found a guide which is explaining step by step how to create *AcronisBootable USB HardDisk* . > Chek this > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ > |Filename: acronis_bootable_usb_hd.pdf                              | > |Download:http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7578| > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > -- > Ipkins