GraphEdit Mark Blain <mblain2[ at ]yahoo.com> 11/8/2008 12:07:12 AM Is there a way I can download and install the latest Vista-compatible version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without installing the whole Vista SDK? I've enjoyed using GraphEdit as an educational tool to help me understand the rendering process, but I have no intention of developing my own applications. Since the multimedia architecture of Vista is dramatically different from previous Windows versions, is GraphEdit still even a useful tool to see how files can be rendered?

Re: GraphEdit "Alessandro Angeli" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.in.the.net> 11/8/2008 1:01:21 AM From: "Mark Blain" [Quoted Text] > Is there a way I can download and install the latest > Vista-compatible version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without > installing the whole Vista SDK? You do not need to install the SDK: just decompress it, copy graphedt.exe and proppage.dll somewhere and regsvr32 proppage.dll. Or you can find it floating in the web... > Since the multimedia architecture of Vista is > dramatically different from previous Windows versions, is > GraphEdit still even a useful tool to see how files can > be rendered? There is no dramatic difference in Vista: Vista still uses what was already used in XP, including DirectShow (which is what GraphEdit is based upon). Only for a very specific task (that is, playing WindowsMedia content in WindowsMediaPlayer) Vista uses the new MediaFoundation. -- // Alessandro Angeli // MVP :: DirectShow / MediaFoundation // mvpnews at riseoftheants dot com // http://www.riseoftheants.com/mmx/faq.htm

Re: GraphEdit "The March Hare [MVP]" <themarchhare[ at ]alice.in.wonderland> 11/8/2008 8:20:25 PM On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:07:12 -0800, Mark Blain wrote: [Quoted Text] > Is there a way I can download and install the latest Vista-compatible > version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without installing the whole Vista SDK? As an alternative, Google for GraphEditPlus. -- Please read this before replying: 1. Dshow & posting help: http://tmhare.mvps.org/help.htm 2. Trim & respond inline (please don't top post or snip everything) 3. Benefit others: follow up if you are helped or you found a solution

Re: GraphEdit "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil[ at ]nospam.com> 11/8/2008 8:25:48 PM On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:07:12 -0800, Mark Blain <mblain2[ at ]yahoo.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] >Is there a way I can download and install the latest Vista-compatible >version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without installing the whole Vista SDK? RadScorpion hosts a modified and possibly improved GraphEdit tool : http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/tools/monogram-graphstudio/ HTH Cheers - Neil ------------------------------------------------ Digital Media MVP : 2004-2008 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

Re: GraphEdit Mark Blain <mblain2[ at ]yahoo.com> 11/10/2008 8:52:43 PM "Alessandro Angeli" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.in.the.net> wrote in news:u3TDQ2TQJHA.5044[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: [Quoted Text] > From: "Mark Blain" > >> Is there a way I can download and install the latest >> Vista-compatible version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without >> installing the whole Vista SDK? > > You do not need to install the SDK: just decompress it, copy > graphedt.exe and proppage.dll somewhere and regsvr32 > proppage.dll. Or you can find it floating in the web... > >> Since the multimedia architecture of Vista is >> dramatically different from previous Windows versions, is >> GraphEdit still even a useful tool to see how files can >> be rendered? > > There is no dramatic difference in Vista: Vista still uses > what was already used in XP, including DirectShow (which is > what GraphEdit is based upon). Only for a very specific task > (that is, playing WindowsMedia content in > WindowsMediaPlayer) Vista uses the new MediaFoundation. Thank you, that does clear things up. I'll grab what I need as you suggest and give it a try.

Re: GraphEdit Mark Blain <mblain2[ at ]yahoo.com> 11/10/2008 9:00:54 PM "The March Hare [MVP]" <themarchhare[ at ]alice.in.wonderland> wrote in news:194qbivtebn36$.12wgr2ll0vg6j$.dlg[ at ]40tude.net: [Quoted Text] > On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:07:12 -0800, Mark Blain wrote: > >> Is there a way I can download and install the latest Vista-compatible >> version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without installing the whole Vista SDK? > > As an alternative, Google for GraphEditPlus. I found that in my research before posting, but for my needs payware seemed unnecessary. I was also unsure whether it was compatible with Vista's "Media Foundation", but Alessandro clarified that. Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: GraphEdit Mark Blain <mblain2[ at ]yahoo.com> 11/10/2008 9:03:09 PM "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in news:iotbh4p0tpjjt2l74bdssg5klevd996dcj[ at ]4ax.com: [Quoted Text] > On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:07:12 -0800, Mark Blain <mblain2[ at ]yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>Is there a way I can download and install the latest Vista-compatible >>version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without installing the whole Vista SDK? > > RadScorpion hosts a modified and possibly improved GraphEdit tool : > http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/tools/monogram-graphstudio/ > > HTH > Cheers - Neil > ------------------------------------------------ > Digital Media MVP : 2004-2008 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs Now, that one I hadn't seen. Thanks!

Re: GraphEdit LarryN 11/26/2008 7:49:02 PM "Alessandro Angeli" wrote: [Quoted Text] > From: "Mark Blain" > > > Is there a way I can download and install the latest > > Vista-compatible version of GraphEdit/GraphEdt without > > installing the whole Vista SDK? > > You do not need to install the SDK: just decompress it, copy > graphedt.exe and proppage.dll somewhere and regsvr32 > proppage.dll. Or you can find it floating in the web... > > > Since the multimedia architecture of Vista is > > dramatically different from previous Windows versions, is > > GraphEdit still even a useful tool to see how files can > > be rendered? > > There is no dramatic difference in Vista: Vista still uses > what was already used in XP, including DirectShow (which is > what GraphEdit is based upon). Only for a very specific task > (that is, playing WindowsMedia content in > WindowsMediaPlayer) Vista uses the new MediaFoundation. > > > -- > // Alessandro Angeli > // MVP :: DirectShow / MediaFoundation > // mvpnews at riseoftheants dot com > // http://www.riseoftheants.com/mmx/faq.htm > > > Hi Alessandro, That is a great tip. But there is a problem. There is nothing like a DirectShow SDK now. GraphEdit has disappeared with it. I looked in windows sdk and DirectX sdk (NOV 2008) I could not find it. I am also looking for a great sample app called VMRMulti but don't seem to be able to put my hands on it. Any ideas how I can get my hands on thsi great tool which will run on windows XP professional and Vista alike. Thanks in advance. -- LarryN >

Re: GraphEdit "Alessandro Angeli" <nobody[ at ]nowhere.in.the.net> 11/26/2008 8:37:13 PM From: "LarryN" [Quoted Text] > That is a great tip. But there is a problem. There is > nothing like a DirectShow SDK now. GraphEdit has > disappeared with it. I looked in windows sdk and DirectX > sdk (NOV 2008) I could not find it. I am also looking for > a great sample app called VMRMulti but don't seem to be > able to put my hands on it. Any ideas how I can get my > hands on thsi great tool which will run on windows XP > professional and Vista alike. There never was a DirectShow SDK. Around 1998, the DirectShow SDK was part of the DirectXMedia SDK 6.0, then it was merged into the DirectX SDK and, since 2005, it is part of the Windows SDK. If you download a copy of the Windows SDK (any version is OK), you will get the DirectShow docs, tools and samples, including GraphEdit. Notice that the Windows SDK is not the Platform SDK, which is older. The VMRMulti sample I think was lost when DirectShow was merged into the Windows SDK, so you need an edition version of the DirectX SDK v9.0b from 2003 (maybe 2004). -- // Alessandro Angeli // MVP :: DirectShow / MediaFoundation // mvpnews at riseoftheants dot com // http://www.riseoftheants.com/mmx/faq.htm