Columns go gray RWG 12/30/2008 6:30:03 AM I am using Windows XP Pro and current with all updates. Windows Live Mail Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8050.1202). Now I had to reinstall the operating system, did all the updates and then I copied my "USER" folder back into the "Documents And Settings" folder then reinstalled Windows Live Mail. Before and still the entire line would be "bold" to indicate a new message. Before, once the "mail" is read all the letters would go "normal". Now, once the "mail" is read, the letters in the from column are normal and the letters in the Subject column and Date column are grayed out/faded, but otherwise seem normal when a line is highlighted, still searchable, etc. Is this a "bug" or did I do something improperly when copying back my user folder.

RE: Columns go gray RWG 12/30/2008 6:49:01 AM Correction. Unread: From is Bold, Subject is Normal, Date is gray "RWG" wrote: [Quoted Text] > I am using Windows XP Pro and current with all updates. Windows Live Mail > Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8050.1202). > > Now I had to reinstall the operating system, did all the updates and then I > copied my "USER" folder back into the "Documents And Settings" folder then > reinstalled Windows Live Mail. Before and still the entire line would be > "bold" to indicate a new message. Before, once the "mail" is read all the > letters would go "normal". Now, once the "mail" is read, the letters in the > from column are normal and the letters in the Subject column and Date column > are grayed out/faded, but otherwise seem normal when a line is highlighted, > still searchable, etc. > > Is this a "bug" or did I do something improperly when copying back my user > folder.

Re: Columns go gray "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary[ at ]NoMail.invalid> 12/30/2008 7:04:01 AM No "bug", unfortunately. :-( Microsoft's GUI designers apparently imbibed too much holiday cheer too early. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "RWG" <RWG[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DD2A07FA-5144-4AB9-8230-3D8D1F92033C[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Correction. > > Unread: From is Bold, Subject is Normal, Date is gray > > "RWG" wrote: > >> I am using Windows XP Pro and current with all updates. Windows Live Mail >> Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8050.1202). >> >> Now I had to reinstall the operating system, did all the updates and then I >> copied my "USER" folder back into the "Documents And Settings" folder then >> reinstalled Windows Live Mail. Before and still the entire line would be >> "bold" to indicate a new message. Before, once the "mail" is read all the >> letters would go "normal". Now, once the "mail" is read, the letters in the >> from column are normal and the letters in the Subject column and Date column >> are grayed out/faded, but otherwise seem normal when a line is highlighted, >> still searchable, etc. >> >> Is this a "bug" or did I do something improperly when copying back my user >> folder.

Re: Columns go gray RWG 12/30/2008 8:05:01 AM Is it up for a fix. Is hard to read "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: [Quoted Text] > No "bug", unfortunately. :-( > Microsoft's GUI designers apparently imbibed too much holiday cheer too early. > -- > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) > > > "RWG" <RWG[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DD2A07FA-5144-4AB9-8230-3D8D1F92033C[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Correction. > > > > Unread: From is Bold, Subject is Normal, Date is gray > > > > "RWG" wrote: > > > >> I am using Windows XP Pro and current with all updates. Windows Live Mail > >> Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8050.1202). > >> > >> Now I had to reinstall the operating system, did all the updates and then I > >> copied my "USER" folder back into the "Documents And Settings" folder then > >> reinstalled Windows Live Mail. Before and still the entire line would be > >> "bold" to indicate a new message. Before, once the "mail" is read all the > >> letters would go "normal". Now, once the "mail" is read, the letters in the > >> from column are normal and the letters in the Subject column and Date column > >> are grayed out/faded, but otherwise seem normal when a line is highlighted, > >> still searchable, etc. > >> > >> Is this a "bug" or did I do something improperly when copying back my user > >> folder. > > >

Re: Columns go gray "Ron Sommer" <rsommer[ at ]nospam.ktis.net> 12/30/2008 11:14:14 AM The behavior is different when reading newsgroups. Unread posts, the From field is bold and all other fields are normal. When read, the From field is normal and all other fields are gray. -- Ronald Sommer "RWG" <RWG[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5836838D-4CB7-485D-992F-78C8D05F6C60[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Is it up for a fix. Is hard to read > > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: > >> No "bug", unfortunately. :-( >> Microsoft's GUI designers apparently imbibed too much holiday cheer too >> early. >> -- >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) >> >> >> "RWG" <RWG[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:DD2A07FA-5144-4AB9-8230-3D8D1F92033C[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > Correction. >> > >> > Unread: From is Bold, Subject is Normal, Date is gray >> > >> > "RWG" wrote: >> > >> >> I am using Windows XP Pro and current with all updates. Windows Live >> >> Mail >> >> Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8050.1202). >> >> >> >> Now I had to reinstall the operating system, did all the updates and >> >> then I >> >> copied my "USER" folder back into the "Documents And Settings" folder >> >> then >> >> reinstalled Windows Live Mail. Before and still the entire line >> >> would be >> >> "bold" to indicate a new message. Before, once the "mail" is read all >> >> the >> >> letters would go "normal". Now, once the "mail" is read, the letters >> >> in the >> >> from column are normal and the letters in the Subject column and Date >> >> column >> >> are grayed out/faded, but otherwise seem normal when a line is >> >> highlighted, >> >> still searchable, etc. >> >> >> >> Is this a "bug" or did I do something improperly when copying back my >> >> user >> >> folder. >> >> >>

Re: Columns go gray "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary[ at ]NoMail.invalid> 12/30/2008 6:20:24 PM I hear you loud and clear. I've made the same point here shortly after the new build was released. The designers forgot that not everyone has 20/20 vision. Us older folks especially have trouble distinguishing different shades of gray. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "RWG" <RWG[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5836838D-4CB7-485D-992F-78C8D05F6C60[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Is it up for a fix. Is hard to read > > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote: > >> No "bug", unfortunately. :-( >> Microsoft's GUI designers apparently imbibed too much holiday cheer too early. >> -- >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) >> >> >> "RWG" <RWG[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DD2A07FA-5144-4AB9-8230-3D8D1F92033C[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > Correction. >> > >> > Unread: From is Bold, Subject is Normal, Date is gray >> > >> > "RWG" wrote: >> > >> >> I am using Windows XP Pro and current with all updates. Windows Live Mail >> >> Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8050.1202). >> >> >> >> Now I had to reinstall the operating system, did all the updates and then I >> >> copied my "USER" folder back into the "Documents And Settings" folder then >> >> reinstalled Windows Live Mail. Before and still the entire line would be >> >> "bold" to indicate a new message. Before, once the "mail" is read all the >> >> letters would go "normal". Now, once the "mail" is read, the letters in the >> >> from column are normal and the letters in the Subject column and Date column >> >> are grayed out/faded, but otherwise seem normal when a line is highlighted, >> >> still searchable, etc. >> >> >> >> Is this a "bug" or did I do something improperly when copying back my user >> >> folder. >> >> >>

Re: Columns go gray "NoSPAM" <unknown[ at ]nospam.org> 12/31/2008 12:05:26 AM "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary[ at ]NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:e2OTKtqaJHA.4664[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I hear you loud and clear. I've made the same point here shortly after the > new build was released. The designers forgot that not everyone has 20/20 > vision. Us older folks especially have trouble distinguishing different > shades > of gray. This is the reason I continue to use Windows Mail rather than WLM. Can you suggest the proper folks to complain to at Microsoft? I will be happy to give them my comments. Thank you, Gary, for all you do to help us. It would seem that Microsoft would place more value on your suggestions than they do. Dr. Barry L. Ornitz

Re: Columns go gray "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary[ at ]NoMail.invalid> 12/31/2008 12:38:24 AM "NoSPAM" <unknown[ at ]nospam.org> wrote in message news:eXCD%23ttaJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary[ at ]NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:e2OTKtqaJHA.4664[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>I hear you loud and clear. I've made the same point here shortly after the >> new build was released. The designers forgot that not everyone has 20/20 >> vision. Us older folks especially have trouble distinguishing different shades >> of gray. > > > This is the reason I continue to use Windows Mail rather than WLM. Can you suggest the proper folks to complain to at > Microsoft? I will be happy to give them my comments. > > Thank you, Gary, for all you do to help us. It would seem that Microsoft would place more value on your suggestions than they > do. > > Dr. Barry L. Ornitz Strangely enough, MS closed the beta testers' bug reporting channel a week or so before the latest WLM build was released. Several recently added changes, like the graying out of the subject line, and only bolding the 'From' field, were never shown to the beta testers prior to release. One has to wonder what the point of having beta testers is... I only know of the feedback channel open to the general public: https://feedback.live.com/default.aspx?productkey=wlmaildesktop -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)

Re: Columns go gray "David [MSFT]" <dgould[ at ]microsoft.com> 12/31/2008 2:58:14 AM I forwarded this thread to some of my team members today. I can't guarantee anything will change in the next version, but I'm sure we'll revisit the visuals, at least for discussion. David [MSFT] "NoSPAM" <unknown[ at ]nospam.org> wrote in message news:eXCD#ttaJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary[ at ]NoMail.invalid> wrote in message > news:e2OTKtqaJHA.4664[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>I hear you loud and clear. I've made the same point here shortly after the >> new build was released. The designers forgot that not everyone has 20/20 >> vision. Us older folks especially have trouble distinguishing different >> shades >> of gray. > > > This is the reason I continue to use Windows Mail rather than WLM. Can > you suggest the proper folks to complain to at Microsoft? I will be happy > to give them my comments. > > Thank you, Gary, for all you do to help us. It would seem that Microsoft > would place more value on your suggestions than they do. > > Dr. Barry L. Ornitz