Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> 11/12/2008 5:07:43 PM I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ hardware? I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, software and hardware and not so much for users that just use productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or Windows. What do you all think? Thanks much. Saga --

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "fs_fan" <diogo_ferrosantos'at'hotmail.com> 11/12/2008 5:26:51 PM I'd say that the expertise needed for x64 is similar to the one required for regular version. However, it may take you some time dealing with drivers, and you'll find some hardware which simply will not run on x64 (I have the example of a scanner and a steering wheel - although there are a lot of things that run fine). So, unless you are using programs which require much RAM (e.g. video edit) or are willing to "be prepared for the future", 32-bit edition would be fine. "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> escreveu na mensagem news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was > not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. > > A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new > PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have > spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. > > Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? > Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ > hardware? > > I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the > impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more > technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, > software and hardware and not so much for users that just use > productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or > Windows. > > What do you all think? Thanks much. > > Saga > -- > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 11/12/2008 5:55:07 PM the vast majority of programs and hardware that work on 32-bit Vista will do so on 64-bit Vista as well. There are exceptions, and it's always worth verifying that any existing peripherals she has will work. A PC that is shipped with 64-bit Vista should have drivers for all the peripherals and components of the PC. If your friend doesn't have a need for >3GB of RAM, then a 32-bit version of Windows is fine. but if she wants or needs more, then 64-bit is really your only option. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was > not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. > > A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new > PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have > spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. > > Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? > Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ > hardware? > > I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the > impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more > technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, > software and hardware and not so much for users that just use > productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or > Windows. > > What do you all think? Thanks much. > > Saga > -- > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> 11/12/2008 6:10:04 PM The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and suddenly you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - but if you didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal usage is not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely obscure for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being forced into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that you can start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you want to have can be searched out and investigated for 64bit support before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as 'Vista Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit system that is completely spotless! Tony. . . "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was > not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. > > A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new > PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have > spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. > > Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? > Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ > hardware? > > I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the > impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more > technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, > software and hardware and not so much for users that just use > productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or > Windows. > > What do you all think? Thanks much. > > Saga > -- > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> 11/12/2008 7:00:14 PM Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something similar) I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a better way to go for her at this time. Again, thanks for the replies. Saga -- "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and suddenly you find you need > something that couldn't be anticipated. It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - but > if you didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal usage is not terribly > advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' more than > 3 - 4 years in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be all-right, but > 64bit is going to be the future. > > The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much different from a 32bit > system, but can seem to be extremely obscure for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of > being forced into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that you can start out > by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you want to have can be searched out and > investigated for 64bit support before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as 'Vista Compatible' > can turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! > > So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit system that is completely > spotless! > > > Tony. . . > > > "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >> >> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >> >> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >> hardware? >> >> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >> Windows. >> >> What do you all think? Thanks much. >> >> Saga >> -- >> >> > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> 11/12/2008 8:37:08 PM This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there is no x64 upgrade. If she decides she want 64bit later it will have to be a new investment and a clean installation, so a backup solution could turn out to be wise. Tony. . . "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. > > I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly > uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash > player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and > her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something > similar) > > I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. > > For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a better > way to go for her at this time. > > Again, thanks for the replies. > Saga > -- > > "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message > news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and suddenly >> you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. It's impossible >> to give general full coverage advice - but if you didn't expect to put >> more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal usage is not terribly >> advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit software, and you don't expect it >> to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years in it's contemplated environment - >> then a 32bit system 'should' be all-right, but 64bit is going to be the >> future. >> >> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much >> different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely obscure for a >> new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being forced into doing a >> few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that you can start out >> by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you want to have >> can be searched out and investigated for 64bit support before you pay. Do >> note that devices labeled as 'Vista Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit >> only when you open the box!!! >> >> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit >> system that is completely spotless! >> >> >> Tony. . . >> >> >> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>> >>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>> >>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>> hardware? >>> >>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>> Windows. >>> >>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>> >>> Saga >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> 11/12/2008 9:32:47 PM Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always a good idea :-) That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail version of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it is then I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. Saga -- "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there is no x64 upgrade. If she > decides she want 64bit later it will have to be a new investment and a clean installation, so a > backup solution could turn out to be wise. > > > Tony. . . > > > > "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >> >> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >> similar) >> >> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. >> >> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a better >> way to go for her at this time. >> >> Again, thanks for the replies. >> Saga >> -- >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and suddenly you find you need >>> something that couldn't be anticipated. It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - >>> but if you didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal usage is not >>> terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' >>> more than 3 - 4 years in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be >>> all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. >>> >>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much different from a 32bit >>> system, but can seem to be extremely obscure for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter >>> of being forced into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that you can >>> start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you want to have can be >>> searched out and investigated for 64bit support before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as >>> 'Vista Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! >>> >>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit system that is completely >>> spotless! >>> >>> >>> Tony. . . >>> >>> >>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>> >>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>> >>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>> hardware? >>>> >>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>> Windows. >>>> >>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>> >>>> Saga >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> 11/12/2008 10:41:31 PM That would be the (what's the name?) 'supreme' version, if I'm not completely off on that. The home versions are one or the other, I'm pretty sure. I'm on XP x64 myself so the specifics tend to slip away. Tony. . . "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:%23FHO24QRJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always > a good idea :-) > > That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail > version > of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it is > then > I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. > > Saga > -- > > "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message > news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there is >> no x64 upgrade. If she decides she want 64bit later it will have to be a >> new investment and a clean installation, so a backup solution could turn >> out to be wise. >> >> >> Tony. . . >> >> >> >> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >> news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >>> >>> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >>> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >>> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >>> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >>> similar) >>> >>> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. >>> >>> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a better >>> way to go for her at this time. >>> >>> Again, thanks for the replies. >>> Saga >>> -- >>> >>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and suddenly >>>> you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. It's >>>> impossible to give general full coverage advice - but if you didn't >>>> expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal usage is >>>> not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit software, and you >>>> don't expect it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years in it's contemplated >>>> environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be all-right, but 64bit is >>>> going to be the future. >>>> >>>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much >>>> different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely obscure for >>>> a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being forced into >>>> doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that you can >>>> start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you >>>> want to have can be searched out and investigated for 64bit support >>>> before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as 'Vista Compatible' can >>>> turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! >>>> >>>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit >>>> system that is completely spotless! >>>> >>>> >>>> Tony. . . >>>> >>>> >>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>>> >>>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>>> >>>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>>> hardware? >>>>> >>>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>>> Windows. >>>>> >>>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>>> >>>>> Saga >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> 11/13/2008 2:55:53 AM Vista Ultimate Retail comes with both disks (32 and 64-bit). Other versions have the 64-bit version available for a shipping and handling charge of about $10. "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message news:%23%23tBTfRRJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > That would be the (what's the name?) 'supreme' version, if I'm not > completely off on that. The home versions are one or the other, I'm pretty > sure. I'm on XP x64 myself so the specifics tend to slip away. > > > Tony. . . > > > > "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:%23FHO24QRJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always >> a good idea :-) >> >> That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail >> version >> of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it >> is then >> I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. >> >> Saga >> -- >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >> news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there is >>> no x64 upgrade. If she decides she want 64bit later it will have to be a >>> new investment and a clean installation, so a backup solution could turn >>> out to be wise. >>> >>> >>> Tony. . . >>> >>> >>> >>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >>>> >>>> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >>>> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >>>> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >>>> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >>>> similar) >>>> >>>> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. >>>> >>>> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a better >>>> way to go for her at this time. >>>> >>>> Again, thanks for the replies. >>>> Saga >>>> -- >>>> >>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and >>>>> suddenly you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. >>>>> It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - but if you >>>>> didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal >>>>> usage is not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit >>>>> software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years >>>>> in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be >>>>> all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. >>>>> >>>>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much >>>>> different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely obscure >>>>> for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being forced into >>>>> doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that you can >>>>> start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you >>>>> want to have can be searched out and investigated for 64bit support >>>>> before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as 'Vista Compatible' can >>>>> turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! >>>>> >>>>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit >>>>> system that is completely spotless! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tony. . . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>>>> hardware? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>>>> Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saga >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> 11/13/2008 7:36:09 AM Thanks, John - I guess, that was what I was trying to say. Tony. . . "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message news:%233B84sTRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Vista Ultimate Retail comes with both disks (32 and 64-bit). Other > versions have the 64-bit version available for a shipping and handling > charge of about $10. > > "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message > news:%23%23tBTfRRJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> That would be the (what's the name?) 'supreme' version, if I'm not >> completely off on that. The home versions are one or the other, I'm >> pretty sure. I'm on XP x64 myself so the specifics tend to slip away. >> >> >> Tony. . . >> >> >> >> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >> news:%23FHO24QRJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always >>> a good idea :-) >>> >>> That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail >>> version >>> of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it >>> is then >>> I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. >>> >>> Saga >>> -- >>> >>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>> news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there >>>> is no x64 upgrade. If she decides she want 64bit later it will have to >>>> be a new investment and a clean installation, so a backup solution >>>> could turn out to be wise. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tony. . . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >>>>> >>>>> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >>>>> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >>>>> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >>>>> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >>>>> similar) >>>>> >>>>> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. >>>>> >>>>> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a >>>>> better >>>>> way to go for her at this time. >>>>> >>>>> Again, thanks for the replies. >>>>> Saga >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and >>>>>> suddenly you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. >>>>>> It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - but if you >>>>>> didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal >>>>>> usage is not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit >>>>>> software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years >>>>>> in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be >>>>>> all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much >>>>>> different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely obscure >>>>>> for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being forced >>>>>> into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that >>>>>> you can start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices >>>>>> that you want to have can be searched out and investigated for 64bit >>>>>> support before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as 'Vista >>>>>> Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a >>>>>> 64bit system that is completely spotless! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony. . . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>>>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>>>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>>>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>>>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>>>>> hardware? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>>>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>>>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>>>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>>>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>>>>> Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saga >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> 11/13/2008 12:35:55 PM But only for retail versions. A new PC - built or bought - would qualify for the OEM version, at a saving, but this is either 32-bit or 64-bit with no option to switch. "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message news:%233B84sTRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Vista Ultimate Retail comes with both disks (32 and 64-bit). Other > versions have the 64-bit version available for a shipping and handling > charge of about $10. > > "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message > news:%23%23tBTfRRJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> That would be the (what's the name?) 'supreme' version, if I'm not >> completely off on that. The home versions are one or the other, I'm >> pretty sure. I'm on XP x64 myself so the specifics tend to slip away. >> >> >> Tony. . . >> >> >> >> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >> news:%23FHO24QRJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always >>> a good idea :-) >>> >>> That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail >>> version >>> of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it >>> is then >>> I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. >>> >>> Saga >>> -- >>> >>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>> news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there >>>> is no x64 upgrade. If she decides she want 64bit later it will have to >>>> be a new investment and a clean installation, so a backup solution >>>> could turn out to be wise. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tony. . . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >>>>> >>>>> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >>>>> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >>>>> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >>>>> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >>>>> similar) >>>>> >>>>> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. >>>>> >>>>> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a >>>>> better >>>>> way to go for her at this time. >>>>> >>>>> Again, thanks for the replies. >>>>> Saga >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and >>>>>> suddenly you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. >>>>>> It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - but if you >>>>>> didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal >>>>>> usage is not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit >>>>>> software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years >>>>>> in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system 'should' be >>>>>> all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. >>>>>> >>>>>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much >>>>>> different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely obscure >>>>>> for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being forced >>>>>> into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that >>>>>> you can start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices >>>>>> that you want to have can be searched out and investigated for 64bit >>>>>> support before you pay. Do note that devices labeled as 'Vista >>>>>> Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a >>>>>> 64bit system that is completely spotless! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony. . . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>>>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>>>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>>>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>>>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>>>>> hardware? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>>>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>>>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>>>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>>>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>>>>> Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saga >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> 11/13/2008 3:14:31 PM Thank all. Saga -- "Dominic Payer" <dcpNON[ at ]SPAMMEdcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message news:ePyesxYRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > But only for retail versions. > > A new PC - built or bought - would qualify for the OEM version, at a saving, but this is either > 32-bit or 64-bit with no option to switch. > > > > "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message news:%233B84sTRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Vista Ultimate Retail comes with both disks (32 and 64-bit). Other versions have the 64-bit >> version available for a shipping and handling charge of about $10. >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >> news:%23%23tBTfRRJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> That would be the (what's the name?) 'supreme' version, if I'm not completely off on that. The >>> home versions are one or the other, I'm pretty sure. I'm on XP x64 myself so the specifics tend >>> to slip away. >>> >>> >>> Tony. . . >>> >>> >>> >>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:%23FHO24QRJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always >>>> a good idea :-) >>>> >>>> That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail version >>>> of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it is then >>>> I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. >>>> >>>> Saga >>>> -- >>>> >>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>> news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there is no x64 upgrade. If >>>>> she decides she want 64bit later it will have to be a new investment and a clean installation, >>>>> so a backup solution could turn out to be wise. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tony. . . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >>>>>> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >>>>>> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >>>>>> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >>>>>> similar) >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting creative. >>>>>> >>>>>> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a better >>>>>> way to go for her at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, thanks for the replies. >>>>>> Saga >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and suddenly you find you need >>>>>>> something that couldn't be anticipated. It's impossible to give general full coverage >>>>>>> advice - but if you didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the maximal >>>>>>> usage is not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated 64bit software, and you don't expect >>>>>>> it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 years in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system >>>>>>> 'should' be all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually much different from a 32bit >>>>>>> system, but can seem to be extremely obscure for a new convert. Many times it is just a >>>>>>> matter of being forced into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part is that >>>>>>> you can start out by not attaching any old devices, and those devices that you want to have >>>>>>> can be searched out and investigated for 64bit support before you pay. Do note that devices >>>>>>> labeled as 'Vista Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit only when you open the box!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a 64bit system that is >>>>>>> completely spotless! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>>>>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>>>>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>>>>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>>>>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>>>>>> hardware? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>>>>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>>>>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>>>>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>>>>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>>>>>> Windows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saga >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >

Re: Windows Vista 64bit opinion "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> 11/13/2008 9:18:56 PM That is why I specified it in my reply. See third word. "Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message news:ePyesxYRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > But only for retail versions. > > A new PC - built or bought - would qualify for the OEM version, at a > saving, but this is either 32-bit or 64-bit with no option to switch. > > > > "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message > news:%233B84sTRJHA.5568[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Vista Ultimate Retail comes with both disks (32 and 64-bit). Other >> versions have the 64-bit version available for a shipping and handling >> charge of about $10. >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >> news:%23%23tBTfRRJHA.4240[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> That would be the (what's the name?) 'supreme' version, if I'm not >>> completely off on that. The home versions are one or the other, I'm >>> pretty sure. I'm on XP x64 myself so the specifics tend to slip away. >>> >>> >>> Tony. . . >>> >>> >>> >>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23FHO24QRJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Thanks again. Even is she never upgrades, a backup solution is always >>>> a good idea :-) >>>> >>>> That reminded me of something - I thought I'd heard that the retail >>>> version >>>> of Vista included both 32 and 64 bit versions. Is that INcorrect? If it >>>> is then >>>> I probably misunderstood when that briefly came up. >>>> >>>> Saga >>>> -- >>>> >>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>> news:OmBFzZQRJHA.4732[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> This seems a fair decision - although, I forgot to mention that there >>>>> is no x64 upgrade. If she decides she want 64bit later it will have to >>>>> be a new investment and a clean installation, so a backup solution >>>>> could turn out to be wise. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tony. . . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:OTYcmjPRJHA.144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Thank you Tony, fs_fan and Charlie. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't believe she'll need more than 3GB. At this time she mostly >>>>>> uses Skype, Mikogo, Office and a few other applications (Adobe Flash >>>>>> player, VLC Media player). Old hardware consists of her monitor and >>>>>> her printer. Since she is an investor, she uses e-trade (or something >>>>>> similar) >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess my concern is what is mentioned about people getting >>>>>> creative. >>>>>> >>>>>> For now I think I will recommend 32bit version - it just seems a >>>>>> better >>>>>> way to go for her at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, thanks for the replies. >>>>>> Saga >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23EotmHPRJHA.4512[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> The problem is that people tend to get creative with a PC, and >>>>>>> suddenly you find you need something that couldn't be anticipated. >>>>>>> It's impossible to give general full coverage advice - but if you >>>>>>> didn't expect to put more than three GB of RAM inside and the >>>>>>> maximal usage is not terribly advanced in terms of sofisticated >>>>>>> 64bit software, and you don't expect it to 'survive' more than 3 - 4 >>>>>>> years in it's contemplated environment - then a 32bit system >>>>>>> 'should' be all-right, but 64bit is going to be the future. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The troubles that do arise around a 64bit system is not actually >>>>>>> much different from a 32bit system, but can seem to be extremely >>>>>>> obscure for a new convert. Many times it is just a matter of being >>>>>>> forced into doing a few things somewhat differently. The easy part >>>>>>> is that you can start out by not attaching any old devices, and >>>>>>> those devices that you want to have can be searched out and >>>>>>> investigated for 64bit support before you pay. Do note that devices >>>>>>> labeled as 'Vista Compatible' can turn out to be 32bit only when you >>>>>>> open the box!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, carry out your detective work accordingly and you can have a >>>>>>> 64bit system that is completely spotless! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Saga" <antiSpam[ at ]somewhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:unIKukORJHA.5080[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>I am not sure if this is the best group where to ask this, but I was >>>>>>>> not able to locate a specific Vista 64bit group. Please advice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A friend is updating her PC and asked if I could recommend a new >>>>>>>> PC for her. She would like it to have Vista Home Premium. I have >>>>>>>> spotted a few candidates and some of them offer Vista Home P 64bit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is the 64bit version of Vista ready to be used by a typical user? >>>>>>>> Could she have any compatibility issues with existing software/ >>>>>>>> hardware? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have seen 64bit Vista promoted, but it has always given me the >>>>>>>> impression that it is for more specialized individuals who are more >>>>>>>> technologically capapble in resolving issues dealing with drivers, >>>>>>>> software and hardware and not so much for users that just use >>>>>>>> productivity software and do not really know much about PCs or >>>>>>>> Windows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you all think? Thanks much. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saga >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >