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blank drive and recovery
foe <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/7/2008 5:04:56 PM
Ok, My system does a little weird and I whant to do a REFORMAT, but I only have a vista RECOVERY disk. Does this mean that, when i use my XP disk to remove my partitions, that I can't install vista anymore? Do I really nead a vista install disk for this or can I does my recovery disk only look at my hardware, to make sure I'm not just installing on a PC witch is not meant to get vista for free. I know there is a anoying big difference between a install disk and a recovery disk. Or is there a (meybe not so legal) wat to convert my recovery disk to an install disk? I bought this PC with vista and I dont whant to buy it like a second time... anyone? -- foe
Re: blank drive and recovery
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 12/7/2008 5:38:38 PM

"foe" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:38dc0564f603e40edf911dd2a209143c[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Ok, My system does a little weird and I whant to do a REFORMAT, but I
> only have a vista RECOVERY disk. Does this mean that, when i use my XP
> disk to remove my partitions, that I can't install vista anymore?
>
> Do I really nead a vista install disk for this or can I does my
> recovery disk only look at my hardware, to make sure I'm not just
> installing on a PC witch is not meant to get vista for free. I know
> there is a anoying big difference between a install disk and a recovery
> disk.
>
> Or is there a (meybe not so legal) wat to convert my recovery disk to
> an install disk? I bought this PC with vista and I dont whant to buy it
> like a second time...
>
> anyone?
>


No you do not need to use your XP cd.

Just boot with your Vista recovery disk and it will reinstall Vista
as new.

Be sure your data is backed up first as the recovery DVD will overwrite all
that's there


Re: blank drive and recovery
"John Barnes" <jbfoofy[ at ]nomailemail.com> 12/7/2008 6:52:40 PM
Buy a second copy or stick with what you have. You don't want the
headaches.

"foe" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:38dc0564f603e40edf911dd2a209143c[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Ok, My system does a little weird and I whant to do a REFORMAT, but I
> only have a vista RECOVERY disk. Does this mean that, when i use my XP
> disk to remove my partitions, that I can't install vista anymore?
>
> Do I really nead a vista install disk for this or can I does my
> recovery disk only look at my hardware, to make sure I'm not just
> installing on a PC witch is not meant to get vista for free. I know
> there is a anoying big difference between a install disk and a recovery
> disk.
>
> Or is there a (meybe not so legal) wat to convert my recovery disk to
> an install disk? I bought this PC with vista and I dont whant to buy it
> like a second time...
>
> anyone?
>
>
> --
> foe

Re: blank drive and recovery
foe <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/7/2008 7:32:12 PM
thank you for your reply, I dont whant to reinstal I really whant to REFORMAT I verry mutch believe there is a difference :p The last time I did it just the way you describe, but there apeared to be files in my partition that were there before the instalation and that do not belong to vista, becouse I put them overthere... (boot files for XP to be exact, I used to dualboot) So this must mean it didn't reformat at al. I was thinking to remove partitions with the XP disk and use the recovery disk of vista to create new partitions. But I read somewere else, that you need certain files on your HD to be able to use your vista recovery disk... I asume everyone knows the difference between install disks and recovery disks? Anyway, I dont like to be stuk without vista. I got 4 G of ram and the only way to be able to use it all is using vista... -- foe
Re: blank drive and recovery
"John Barnes" <jbfoofy[ at ]nomailemail.com> 12/7/2008 8:42:53 PM
You can use all your memory with XP X64 also, but you should have no
problems creating the new partition with XP, but do not format it. Use the
Vista disk for reformatting the partition. Most recovery disks do a
complete wipe and creation of the partitions formatting and installing Vista
with the appropriate drivers for the computer for which it was designed.
What are you referring to as a Vista recovery disk. Microsoft does not
provide one. If you have one from the OEM, it probably has their drivers
slipstreamed on the disk.

"foe" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:af904b8ca19b6318d77d4acda841517d[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> thank you for your reply, I dont whant to reinstal I really whant to
> REFORMAT I verry mutch believe there is a difference :p
>
> The last time I did it just the way you describe, but there apeared to
> be files in my partition that were there before the instalation and that
> do not belong to vista, becouse I put them overthere... (boot files for
> XP to be exact, I used to dualboot)
>
> So this must mean it didn't reformat at al. I was thinking to remove
> partitions with the XP disk and use the recovery disk of vista to create
> new partitions. But I read somewere else, that you need certain files on
> your HD to be able to use your vista recovery disk... I asume everyone
> knows the difference between install disks and recovery disks? Anyway, I
> dont like to be stuk without vista. I got 4 G of ram and the only way to
> be able to use it all is using vista...
>
>
> --
> foe

Re: blank drive and recovery
foe <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/8/2008 6:36:44 AM
so i can try removing the partitions with the xp disk and creating new not formated ones, without being afraid to make my recovery disk unusable? I believe I only have the lower bit version of XP or can you change it before installing? Or do I need an other XP cd if I need that? Well my recovery disk only allows 3 options. Complete reinstall, the same on first partition or complete reinstall with 2nd partition. I was thinking it reformatted, but then I found some old XP files... -- foe
Re: blank drive and recovery
"John Barnes" <jbfoofy[ at ]nomailemail.com> 12/8/2008 7:27:04 PM
Partitions are neither 32 or 64-bit. They just are. Vista will format NTFS
(quick).

"foe" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:354728076a50e1a41a7fec63e974e5b7[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> so i can try removing the partitions with the xp disk and creating new
> not formated ones, without being afraid to make my recovery disk
> unusable? I believe I only have the lower bit version of XP or can you
> change it before installing? Or do I need an other XP cd if I need that?
>
> Well my recovery disk only allows 3 options. Complete reinstall, the
> same on first partition or complete reinstall with 2nd partition. I was
> thinking it reformatted, but then I found some old XP files...
>
>
> --
> foe

Re: blank drive and recovery
foe <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/9/2008 6:06:46 PM
I dont think you understand my question. I heared that a vista RECOVERY disk needs to have certain files in a hidden partition in order to work, because otherwise it might be installed on 'the wrong pc' since microsoft would not like a recovery disk making it easy to install windows on multiple pc's. But I whant to do a complete reformat. Would deleting the partitions with my XP(INSTALL)cd (were I CAN change partitions) make my recoverydisk useless? -- foe
Re: blank drive and recovery
Malke <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> 12/9/2008 9:57:52 PM
foe wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> I dont think you understand my question. I heared that a vista RECOVERY
> disk needs to have certain files in a hidden partition in order to work,
> because otherwise it might be installed on 'the wrong pc' since
> microsoft would not like a recovery disk making it easy to install
> windows on multiple pc's. But I whant to do a complete reformat. Would
> deleting the partitions with my XP(INSTALL)cd (were I CAN change
> partitions) make my recoverydisk useless?
>
>

No. You heard wrong. The whole point of making (or ordering) physical
restore disks from the OEM is to be able to restore the system onto a new
baremetal hard drive.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
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Re: blank drive and recovery
foe <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/10/2008 4:41:27 PM
okay, then I can remove the partitions without any trouble... problem solved EOT -- foe

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