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Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Crazed Weevil <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/5/2008 10:56:41 PM
Hi, I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there... I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have plenty of free space on the hard drives. Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware: E6850 EVGA 680i 4GB RAM Help! -- Crazed Weevil
RE: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/6/2008 9:08:01 AM
You have an XP 32bit System.
You bought a Vista 64bit upgrade disk.

When you go from 32bit to 64bit, or vica versa, it has to be a Clean Install.

In other words, save your Data, boot from Vista disk(which you do not
have), delete XP partiton, make a new partition, format, install.

And you have not downloaded an ISO file from MS, so you can not make a
bootable disk from it.
--
Mad Mike


"Crazed Weevil" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
>
> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
>
> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
>
> E6850
> EVGA 680i
> 4GB RAM
>
> Help!
>
>
> --
> Crazed Weevil
>
RE: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/6/2008 9:18:00 AM
Sorry, you bought a 64bit upgrade download, not a Product Key to access that
version on a 64bit disk!
--
Mad Mike


"Mick Murphy" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> You have an XP 32bit System.
> You bought a Vista 64bit upgrade disk.
>
> When you go from 32bit to 64bit, or vica versa, it has to be a Clean Install.
>
> In other words, save your Data, boot from Vista disk(which you do not
> have), delete XP partiton, make a new partition, format, install.
>
> And you have not downloaded an ISO file from MS, so you can not make a
> bootable disk from it.
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "Crazed Weevil" wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> > Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> > an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> > error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
> > Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> > anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> > Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
> >
> > I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> > both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> > through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> > plenty of free space on the hard drives.
> >
> > Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
> >
> > E6850
> > EVGA 680i
> > 4GB RAM
> >
> > Help!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Crazed Weevil
> >
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" <charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/6/2008 12:02:15 PM
On 5 Dez., 23:56, Crazed Weevil <gu...[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a copy ofVistaHome Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract WindowsVistaSetup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
>
> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
>
> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
>
> E6850
> EVGA 680i
> 4GB RAM
>
> Help!
>
> --
> Crazed Weevil

You are not alone:

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/03/28/29-of-windows-vista-crashes-caused-by-nvidia-drivers/

Microsoft have gone soft. They have a worldwide monopoly, and so
simply do not care what buggy rubbish they impose upon the
unsuspecting public.

The public are expected to blame themselves.

When you buy, for example, a Mercedes car, you expect quality. That is
because there are BMW, Audi, Porsche, VW and more in Germany alone.
When you add on Renault, Citroen, Fiat and the hordes of quality far-
eastern manufacturers, you realise that Mercedes have to work hard to
stay in the lead.

Not so with Microsoft. There are no real contenders on the horizon.
Unix, Linus? Forget it.

It seems to me that there is a fundamental flaw in the GLOBAL ERROR
HANDLER of Vista.

A bit of history: Once upon an ancient time, there was "Uncle" Clive
Sinclair. He built and marketted the ZX81 (in the States Sinclair-
Timex 100). It had an instruction book, with error codes. It had a
standard return to the error handler. The word "ERROR" was printed,
followed by the contents of the accumulator.

Thus, "ERROR 0" meant no error.
"ERROR 4" meant short of memory. I know it well. It only had one K.

Nowadays, things have not changed. Routines still return to the error
handler with a number in some register. However, the error handler
opens a window. The meaning of the error code is looked up in an error
list, depending on the software you are using, and typeset into that
window.

Things get very confused, however, when we bring in the multitasking.
With a zero (NO error) in the register, the program is heading for the
error handler. It is intercepted by the interrupts. On return, the
registers are corrupt. It signals errors that are not there. It even
tries to CORRECT those non-existent errors, thereby CRASHING the
system.

This is WHOLLY UNACCEPTABLE from a company vastly richer than Mercedes-
Benz.

On the Internet, I get "Web Page currently unavailable". I clear the
box. The page arrives.

At home, with NO INTERNET CONNECTION, when I try to access a
directory, I get "Resource currently unavailable". I clear the box,
and it works.

At home, I try to view an AVI file. This is a Microsoft standard.
Windows Media Viewer says "Format not recognised". I clear the box,
and it TAMPERS WITH THE VIDEO, shrinking it and destroying the
quality.

I try a new scanner-printer. It says "Printer offline". I have checked
everything. It is not the USB cable, on anything like that. It is
VISTA.

Many, many programs crash. It also offers Internet services I do not
want - whilst I am offline. It will not take "No" for an answer. A few
minutes later, it asks again. Not everybody is on the Internet, or
wants to be. These amateurs at Microsoft assume that EVERYBODY is on
line. WRONG.

VISTA is RUBBISH.

Will Microsoft supply a patch other than on the Internet? The Internet
is insecure. Many viruses call themselves "Microsoft Critical Patch".
I don't want Internet on my LAPTOP. I am free of viruses, and staying
that way.

I am sorry I have to deliver such bad news.

Charles Douglas Wehner
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/6/2008 8:32:02 PM
He bought the WRONG upgrade, you IDIOT!
--
Mad Mike


"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> On 5 Dez., 23:56, Crazed Weevil <gu...[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just bought a copy ofVistaHome Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> > Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> > an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> > error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract WindowsVistaSetup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> > anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> > Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
> >
> > I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> > both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> > through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> > plenty of free space on the hard drives.
> >
> > Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
> >
> > E6850
> > EVGA 680i
> > 4GB RAM
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > --
> > Crazed Weevil
>
> You are not alone:
>
> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/03/28/29-of-windows-vista-crashes-caused-by-nvidia-drivers/
>
> Microsoft have gone soft. They have a worldwide monopoly, and so
> simply do not care what buggy rubbish they impose upon the
> unsuspecting public.
>
> The public are expected to blame themselves.
>
> When you buy, for example, a Mercedes car, you expect quality. That is
> because there are BMW, Audi, Porsche, VW and more in Germany alone.
> When you add on Renault, Citroen, Fiat and the hordes of quality far-
> eastern manufacturers, you realise that Mercedes have to work hard to
> stay in the lead.
>
> Not so with Microsoft. There are no real contenders on the horizon.
> Unix, Linus? Forget it.
>
> It seems to me that there is a fundamental flaw in the GLOBAL ERROR
> HANDLER of Vista.
>
> A bit of history: Once upon an ancient time, there was "Uncle" Clive
> Sinclair. He built and marketted the ZX81 (in the States Sinclair-
> Timex 100). It had an instruction book, with error codes. It had a
> standard return to the error handler. The word "ERROR" was printed,
> followed by the contents of the accumulator.
>
> Thus, "ERROR 0" meant no error.
> "ERROR 4" meant short of memory. I know it well. It only had one K.
>
> Nowadays, things have not changed. Routines still return to the error
> handler with a number in some register. However, the error handler
> opens a window. The meaning of the error code is looked up in an error
> list, depending on the software you are using, and typeset into that
> window.
>
> Things get very confused, however, when we bring in the multitasking.
> With a zero (NO error) in the register, the program is heading for the
> error handler. It is intercepted by the interrupts. On return, the
> registers are corrupt. It signals errors that are not there. It even
> tries to CORRECT those non-existent errors, thereby CRASHING the
> system.
>
> This is WHOLLY UNACCEPTABLE from a company vastly richer than Mercedes-
> Benz.
>
> On the Internet, I get "Web Page currently unavailable". I clear the
> box. The page arrives.
>
> At home, with NO INTERNET CONNECTION, when I try to access a
> directory, I get "Resource currently unavailable". I clear the box,
> and it works.
>
> At home, I try to view an AVI file. This is a Microsoft standard.
> Windows Media Viewer says "Format not recognised". I clear the box,
> and it TAMPERS WITH THE VIDEO, shrinking it and destroying the
> quality.
>
> I try a new scanner-printer. It says "Printer offline". I have checked
> everything. It is not the USB cable, on anything like that. It is
> VISTA.
>
> Many, many programs crash. It also offers Internet services I do not
> want - whilst I am offline. It will not take "No" for an answer. A few
> minutes later, it asks again. Not everybody is on the Internet, or
> wants to be. These amateurs at Microsoft assume that EVERYBODY is on
> line. WRONG.
>
> VISTA is RUBBISH.
>
> Will Microsoft supply a patch other than on the Internet? The Internet
> is insecure. Many viruses call themselves "Microsoft Critical Patch".
> I don't want Internet on my LAPTOP. I am free of viruses, and staying
> that way.
>
> I am sorry I have to deliver such bad news.
>
> Charles Douglas Wehner
>
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 12/7/2008 2:06:32 AM
Why do you say he can not boot and do a clean install from a Vista 64 bit
upgrade DVD?
It sounds like his error was in trying to run the exe file from his 32 bit
OS instead of booting it.
"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1982DCEF-DA33-4152-A09A-F8418A6DE19F[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> You have an XP 32bit System.
> You bought a Vista 64bit upgrade disk.
>
> When you go from 32bit to 64bit, or vica versa, it has to be a Clean
> Install.
>
> In other words, save your Data, boot from Vista disk(which you do not
> have), delete XP partiton, make a new partition, format, install.
>
> And you have not downloaded an ISO file from MS, so you can not make a
> bootable disk from it.
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "Crazed Weevil" wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
>> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
>> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
>> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
>> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
>> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
>> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
>>
>> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
>> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
>> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
>> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
>>
>> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
>>
>> E6850
>> EVGA 680i
>> 4GB RAM
>>
>> Help!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Crazed Weevil
>>

Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/7/2008 5:04:01 AM
I did NOT say that.
READ the OP's post, and my replies.
He does NOT have a ISO file to burn to DVD.

GOT IT!!!!!!!!

He downloaded the upgrades Files from microsoft, not an ISO file.!
--
Mad Mike


"Curious" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Why do you say he can not boot and do a clean install from a Vista 64 bit
> upgrade DVD?
> It sounds like his error was in trying to run the exe file from his 32 bit
> OS instead of booting it.
> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1982DCEF-DA33-4152-A09A-F8418A6DE19F[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > You have an XP 32bit System.
> > You bought a Vista 64bit upgrade disk.
> >
> > When you go from 32bit to 64bit, or vica versa, it has to be a Clean
> > Install.
> >
> > In other words, save your Data, boot from Vista disk(which you do not
> > have), delete XP partiton, make a new partition, format, install.
> >
> > And you have not downloaded an ISO file from MS, so you can not make a
> > bootable disk from it.
> > --
> > Mad Mike
> >
> >
> > "Crazed Weevil" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> >> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> >> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> >> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
> >> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> >> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> >> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
> >>
> >> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> >> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> >> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> >> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
> >>
> >> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
> >>
> >> E6850
> >> EVGA 680i
> >> 4GB RAM
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Crazed Weevil
> >>
>
>
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" <charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/7/2008 2:49:18 PM
It seems they are using the same C-code files for 64 bit as for 32,
with few modifications.

So Microsoft have copied their global error handler fault into both
versions.

Charles Douglas Wehner

Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 12/7/2008 4:51:42 PM
He did not say he did not make an ISO disk and since his installation got to
the point of starting to unpack files I thought it possible that he had in
fact made an ISO disk.
And since my 64bit Vista upgrade disk from MS which I assume is an ISO disk
does contain a setup.exe file so the upgrade can be started from a 64BIT OS.
"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:340923CD-D865-4C86-A5BE-D3A085613621[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I did NOT say that.
> READ the OP's post, and my replies.
> He does NOT have a ISO file to burn to DVD.
>
> GOT IT!!!!!!!!
>
> He downloaded the upgrades Files from microsoft, not an ISO file.!
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "Curious" wrote:
>
>> Why do you say he can not boot and do a clean install from a Vista 64 bit
>> upgrade DVD?
>> It sounds like his error was in trying to run the exe file from his 32
>> bit
>> OS instead of booting it.
>> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1982DCEF-DA33-4152-A09A-F8418A6DE19F[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > You have an XP 32bit System.
>> > You bought a Vista 64bit upgrade disk.
>> >
>> > When you go from 32bit to 64bit, or vica versa, it has to be a Clean
>> > Install.
>> >
>> > In other words, save your Data, boot from Vista disk(which you do not
>> > have), delete XP partiton, make a new partition, format, install.
>> >
>> > And you have not downloaded an ISO file from MS, so you can not make a
>> > bootable disk from it.
>> > --
>> > Mad Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > "Crazed Weevil" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
>> >> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make
>> >> me
>> >> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
>> >> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
>> >> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
>> >> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to
>> >> the
>> >> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
>> >>
>> >> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
>> >> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses
>> >> and
>> >> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also
>> >> have
>> >> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
>> >>
>> >> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
>> >>
>> >> E6850
>> >> EVGA 680i
>> >> 4GB RAM
>> >>
>> >> Help!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Crazed Weevil
>> >>
>>
>>

RE: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/7/2008 8:24:01 PM
"I've re-downloaded all three files"
"I can't get the thing to even make me
an image to install it"

He can not make an Image disk!!!!!!!

Did you happen to read the above!
--
Mad Mike


"Crazed Weevil" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
>
> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
>
> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
>
> E6850
> EVGA 680i
> 4GB RAM
>
> Help!
>
>
> --
> Crazed Weevil
>
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 12/7/2008 9:19:53 PM
I thought it may have actually downloaded as an image which he copied to a
DVD and then tried to run setup.exe from it. But your interpretation is
probably more correct assuming he downloaded to his HDD and then tried
running the 64bit setup.exe file from his 32 bit OS.
It certainly would be nice if the OP would respond to these posts and let us
know where he stands in his upgrade.
"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:840A9B72-1F7A-44EB-A6BB-63352E4D0D8E[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> "I've re-downloaded all three files"
> "I can't get the thing to even make me
> an image to install it"
>
> He can not make an Image disk!!!!!!!
>
> Did you happen to read the above!
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "Crazed Weevil" wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
>> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
>> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
>> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
>> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
>> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
>> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
>>
>> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
>> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
>> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
>> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
>>
>> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
>>
>> E6850
>> EVGA 680i
>> 4GB RAM
>>
>> Help!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Crazed Weevil
>>

Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/7/2008 10:05:01 PM
I agree with you. It'd be nice to get a respone!
I'm not into the ins and outs of the MS Upgrades downloads from MS.
Apparently, some can be ISO files, and some are straight file downloads.

Where's Rick Rogers on this one!
--
Mad Mike


"Curious" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I thought it may have actually downloaded as an image which he copied to a
> DVD and then tried to run setup.exe from it. But your interpretation is
> probably more correct assuming he downloaded to his HDD and then tried
> running the 64bit setup.exe file from his 32 bit OS.
> It certainly would be nice if the OP would respond to these posts and let us
> know where he stands in his upgrade.
> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:840A9B72-1F7A-44EB-A6BB-63352E4D0D8E[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > "I've re-downloaded all three files"
> > "I can't get the thing to even make me
> > an image to install it"
> >
> > He can not make an Image disk!!!!!!!
> >
> > Did you happen to read the above!
> > --
> > Mad Mike
> >
> >
> > "Crazed Weevil" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the
> >> Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me
> >> an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an
> >> error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows
> >> Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does
> >> anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the
> >> Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there...
> >>
> >> I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc
> >> both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and
> >> through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have
> >> plenty of free space on the hard drives.
> >>
> >> Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware:
> >>
> >> E6850
> >> EVGA 680i
> >> 4GB RAM
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Crazed Weevil
> >>
>
>
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" <charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/8/2008 3:09:37 PM
An operating system should make a computer work.

Microsoft operating systems make computers malfunction.

The customer ALWAYS gets the blame. There are plenty of "anoraks" out
there who delight in picking up obsolescent technical "jargon" and
lecturing the victim. For that is what a purchaser of Microsoft
systems is - a VICTIM.

Once upon a mist of time, "Uncle" Clive Sinclair made the ZX81, with
mathematics from Dr. Steven Vickers. Vickers and Richard Altwasser
went on to found their own company - Jupiter Cantab, who made the
Jupiter Ace.

Drivers were promised, but never arrived. Meanwhile, I wrote a word
processor called "Wordace", with drivers for Sinclair printers. One
gave thirty-two columns, another gave forty-two, two more gave eighty
columns of text. I contacted Boldfield of Cambridge, who had taken
over Jupiter Cantab.

They not only accepted the word-processor, but also ordered drivers
for a Centronics/RS232 board they were planning. I did not get to own
the board. I worked to a written spec, and when I sent the drivers to
Boldfield I was told they worked perfectly. Later, the Jupiter Ace
Forth User Group (JAFUG) was set up, and they told me that mine were
the standard drivers.

One driver used just 186 bytes, another 258 and so on. They were ultra
precise, self-linking machine code routines. If the device was not
connected, they timed out, and announced the fault. Control was
returned to the user.

Just after this, there were reports in the press that IBM PCs, with PC-
DOS (from Microsoft) on board would hang, would lock up, if the
printer was not connected. A typist who had not saved her work to
disk, and tried to print, would lose it all. My drivers, for a cheap
home computer, were better than those of "Big Blue".

It continued in this way up to the present time.

Microsoft operating systems are BROKEN. Computers that use them are
BROKEN. Brand-new and BROKEN.

A typist is not expected to be a computer nerd. She is not expected to
learn all manner of jargon. If her boss tells her to install software,
she should be able to do so without problems.

After Microsoft stole Windows from the Apple Computer Corporation,
they still had competition. Windows 3.2 was rather primitive, but
Windows 95 was advanced and stable.

However, "Mr Pepsico", who had sacked Jobs and Wozniak, had no idea
about computers. Apple entered into a phase of decline. "Pepsico" even
offered the "Apple Classic", in the belief that people wanted cheap
machines. However, it was black-and-white when everything else was
colour. Then - a sure sign of decline - he offered an Apple with a
switch. Throw the switch, and it switches to an Intel processor and
Microsoft. The competition had died.

The dual Apple was a flop. "Mr. Pepsico" gave up, and Jobs and Wozniak
returned in triumph. They introduced the i-Pod. Just the quantum leap
into an unexpected realm alone would have stunned the observer. That
it was a worldwide success is a tribute to the sound engineering and
commercial judgement of the original Apple team.

Bill Gates has none of this creativity. Apple had been decimated by
the "Pepsico" era. It had stagnated. That left the field open to
Microsoft.

Windows 98 had its "Installation Wizards". You pop the CD in, and
click the button as requested. Then it says "Windows 98 is rebooting".
The DOS appears. Then it says "Starting Windows 98". Then it says
"Windows 98 is rebooting". And on, and on, and on........

It had rebooted about twenty times, and wasted fourteen hours, just to
install a single package. I thought about this. What must it be like
worldwide - where Microsoft has a monopoly - when all the hours wasted
in all the offices are added together? A monumental squander of
manpower resources, by which millions of office workers are kept
waiting.

Worse was to come. XP arrived with a different interrupt system. All
previous systems had counted out subroutines. This was counting out
microseconds. If a subroutine was not finished, XP would just crash
out of it. XP would crash out of a scanner before a line of colour had
arrived. The data was lost. Coloured stripes appeared in the image
data. That wasted hours, because of all the retouching needed.

XP would crash out of a printer driver before the control codes were
sent, and then resume with data. Instead of a coloured image, one got
alphabet salad.

The answer from Microsoft was to offer "Certificated Drivers". These
were special drivers where each subroutine could fit into the
allocated time-slot. However, the world is huge. There are vast
numbers of audiovisual products out there. Not every one has a
"Certificated Driver".

Then came Vista, with its Global Error Handler fault. Perhaps "Service
Pack One" might help - IF Microsoft have bothered to correct this
unforgiveable error.

Microsoft accept, in the article above, that they are responsible for
17.9 percent. They blame NVIDIA for 29% of crashes. WRONG.

These are MICROSOFT statistics. They are RIGGED in order to shift the
blame.

Notice the big names - beyonf NVidia we have Intel, no less, and ATI.

I do not blame the others. They were probably writing to a Microsoft
specification. When Microsoft wrote the bugs, Vista no longer matched
the spec.

So it is all down to Microsoft. Blame-shifting and blame-sharing will
not get them off the hook.

Charles Douglas Wehner

Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
Mick Murphy 12/8/2008 8:01:01 PM
Hopefully, the spam bots will pick up your email address here.
Than you can be annoyeed by idiot emails.
--
Mad Mike
















































































"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> An operating system should make a computer work.
>
> Microsoft operating systems make computers malfunction.
>
> The customer ALWAYS gets the blame. There are plenty of "anoraks" out
> there who delight in picking up obsolescent technical "jargon" and
> lecturing the victim. For that is what a purchaser of Microsoft
> systems is - a VICTIM.
>
> Once upon a mist of time, "Uncle" Clive Sinclair made the ZX81, with
> mathematics from Dr. Steven Vickers. Vickers and Richard Altwasser
> went on to found their own company - Jupiter Cantab, who made the
> Jupiter Ace.
>
> Drivers were promised, but never arrived. Meanwhile, I wrote a word
> processor called "Wordace", with drivers for Sinclair printers. One
> gave thirty-two columns, another gave forty-two, two more gave eighty
> columns of text. I contacted Boldfield of Cambridge, who had taken
> over Jupiter Cantab.
>
> They not only accepted the word-processor, but also ordered drivers
> for a Centronics/RS232 board they were planning. I did not get to own
> the board. I worked to a written spec, and when I sent the drivers to
> Boldfield I was told they worked perfectly. Later, the Jupiter Ace
> Forth User Group (JAFUG) was set up, and they told me that mine were
> the standard drivers.
>
> One driver used just 186 bytes, another 258 and so on. They were ultra
> precise, self-linking machine code routines. If the device was not
> connected, they timed out, and announced the fault. Control was
> returned to the user.
>
> Just after this, there were reports in the press that IBM PCs, with PC-
> DOS (from Microsoft) on board would hang, would lock up, if the
> printer was not connected. A typist who had not saved her work to
> disk, and tried to print, would lose it all. My drivers, for a cheap
> home computer, were better than those of "Big Blue".
>
> It continued in this way up to the present time.
>
> Microsoft operating systems are BROKEN. Computers that use them are
> BROKEN. Brand-new and BROKEN.
>
> A typist is not expected to be a computer nerd. She is not expected to
> learn all manner of jargon. If her boss tells her to install software,
> she should be able to do so without problems.
>
> After Microsoft stole Windows from the Apple Computer Corporation,
> they still had competition. Windows 3.2 was rather primitive, but
> Windows 95 was advanced and stable.
>
> However, "Mr Pepsico", who had sacked Jobs and Wozniak, had no idea
> about computers. Apple entered into a phase of decline. "Pepsico" even
> offered the "Apple Classic", in the belief that people wanted cheap
> machines. However, it was black-and-white when everything else was
> colour. Then - a sure sign of decline - he offered an Apple with a
> switch. Throw the switch, and it switches to an Intel processor and
> Microsoft. The competition had died.
>
> The dual Apple was a flop. "Mr. Pepsico" gave up, and Jobs and Wozniak
> returned in triumph. They introduced the i-Pod. Just the quantum leap
> into an unexpected realm alone would have stunned the observer. That
> it was a worldwide success is a tribute to the sound engineering and
> commercial judgement of the original Apple team.
>
> Bill Gates has none of this creativity. Apple had been decimated by
> the "Pepsico" era. It had stagnated. That left the field open to
> Microsoft.
>
> Windows 98 had its "Installation Wizards". You pop the CD in, and
> click the button as requested. Then it says "Windows 98 is rebooting".
> The DOS appears. Then it says "Starting Windows 98". Then it says
> "Windows 98 is rebooting". And on, and on, and on........
>
> It had rebooted about twenty times, and wasted fourteen hours, just to
> install a single package. I thought about this. What must it be like
> worldwide - where Microsoft has a monopoly - when all the hours wasted
> in all the offices are added together? A monumental squander of
> manpower resources, by which millions of office workers are kept
> waiting.
>
> Worse was to come. XP arrived with a different interrupt system. All
> previous systems had counted out subroutines. This was counting out
> microseconds. If a subroutine was not finished, XP would just crash
> out of it. XP would crash out of a scanner before a line of colour had
> arrived. The data was lost. Coloured stripes appeared in the image
> data. That wasted hours, because of all the retouching needed.
>
> XP would crash out of a printer driver before the control codes were
> sent, and then resume with data. Instead of a coloured image, one got
> alphabet salad.
>
> The answer from Microsoft was to offer "Certificated Drivers". These
> were special drivers where each subroutine could fit into the
> allocated time-slot. However, the world is huge. There are vast
> numbers of audiovisual products out there. Not every one has a
> "Certificated Driver".
>
> Then came Vista, with its Global Error Handler fault. Perhaps "Service
> Pack One" might help - IF Microsoft have bothered to correct this
> unforgiveable error.
>
> Microsoft accept, in the article above, that they are responsible for
> 17.9 percent. They blame NVIDIA for 29% of crashes. WRONG.
>
> These are MICROSOFT statistics. They are RIGGED in order to shift the
> blame.
>
> Notice the big names - beyonf NVidia we have Intel, no less, and ATI.
>
> I do not blame the others. They were probably writing to a Microsoft
> specification. When Microsoft wrote the bugs, Vista no longer matched
> the spec.
>
> So it is all down to Microsoft. Blame-shifting and blame-sharing will
> not get them off the hook.
>
> Charles Douglas Wehner
>
>
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" <charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/10/2008 4:57:13 PM
I have noticed that the Internet graffitti have arrived on this
thread.

This was meant to be a civilised discussion, and a search for a
practical solution.

Firstly, I have to say that nowadays the hardware of a computer can be
"interrogated" by software in such a way that the software can decide
(1) whether the hardware is suitable and (2) what MANNER of
installation is possible. The second relates to such things as screen
size.

There are many forms of upgrade. Here we have a page at Microsoft
itself, which offers an "upgrade" (actually a downgrade) to Vista from
many earlier, and more stable systems:

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=upgrades

It is no use blaming the "Crazed Weevil". If the upgrade is truly
unsuitable (eg 64 bit on a 32 bit machine), Microsoft should have
arranged that the "Installation Wizard" detects this, and describes in
CLEAR TEXT why it will not install. Microsoft prefers to speak
gobbledygook like 'WMHFUSEN/102322'.

I looked for 'WMHFUSEN/102322' on Microsoft's own site, and found only
this:

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=WMHFUSEN/102322

It leads to this:

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=4102405&SiteID=17

"Willsie" is obviously also in difficulties with the same problem. The
only advice offered was to contact "Windows Marketplace E-mail
Support".

Basically, it is down to Microsoft and nobody else.

One of many complaints of my own is that the Internet provides
"Environment Variables" together with time and date stamping. If a
computer is logged onto the Internet, sensible software would normally
check that this is so before offering Web services. There are other
ways, also, of detecting whether the machine is on line. However, my
laptop keeps distracting me as I work off line, by offering antivirus
and other upgrades which it cannot deliver.

Here we have an international page full of the same question. What
would Gill Bates understand if you told him 'WMHFUSEN/102322'?

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%27WMHFUSEN%2F102322%27&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=

Charles Douglas Wehner



Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
breitak67 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 12/11/2008 3:30:20 AM
Crazed Weevil;903494 Wrote: > Hi, > > I've just bought a copy of Vista Home Premium 64bit upgrade from the > Microsoft Windows Marketplace and I can't get the thing to even make me > an image to install it. When I run the main 'exe' file it gives me an > error once it starts to unpack all the files 'Cannot extract Windows > Vista Setup' with a web link to referencing 'WMHFUSEN/102322'. Does > anyone know what this error code means? The link only leads back to the > Windows Marketplace and there is no useful information there... > > I've re-downloaded all three files that make up the installation disc > both through the little download manager thing the marketplace uses and > through IE itself and there doesn't seem to be any corruption. Also have > plenty of free space on the hard drives. > > Currently running on XP Pro 32bit and the following main hardware: > > E6850 > EVGA 680i > 4GB RAM > > Help! Did you "Run as Administrator"? -- breitak67
Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" <charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/11/2008 5:10:21 PM
With my own Vista problems, I refused to put my laptop on the
Internet.

Prevention is better than cure. One does not allow viruses INTO a
computer that is used as a serious tool. Letting them in, and hoping
to filter them out is the lesser of the two solutions.

The firm that sold me the laptop finally, after much persuasion,
agreed to put the machine on the Internet and take the blame if a
virus arrives.

They spent about ten hours trying to install Service Pack 1.

Next day, they spent a further six hours.

On the way, they discovered 43 bugs in the system.

I told them I did not believe this. I said that there might be three
bugs or so, but there were perhaps 41 examples of the same bug - the
Global Error Handler bug.

If Microsoft have not fixed the central issue - the Global Error
Handler (or whatever the internal house-jargon is at Microsoft) -
there will always be more bugs being discovered, like the NVidia DLL
problem on the graphic card.

Before I took the laptop home, I asked to be permitted to show them
CyberLink's "Power Director" in its "DVD Suite". Just as it had done
BEFORE the Service Pack was installed, so it behaved AFTER the
installation. The Service Pack, taking much of two days to install,
had achieved NOTHING.

Firstly, the "Power Director" hung whilst trying to load a small AVI
file. It showed 28%, and went no further. Exactly as before.

Secondly, when one used Ctrl+Alt+Del (the "Lost Chord") to start the
Task Manager, one gets the report "Power Director is not responding".
When one selects the button to cancel Power Director, one gets the
PALE SCREEN OF DEATH,

The BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH is well-known as a "Fat Al" error in
Microsoft XP. Fat Al is the Microsoft programmer who let out the
dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. It proved fatal for him in the movie, but
Microsoft has been reporting "FatAl" errors ever since. The BLUE
SCREEN OF DEATH comes without any warning.

The BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH is also well known. This is an unannounced
Fat Al error on Vista.

The PALE SCREEN OF DEATH is what I observed not only on Power
Director, but also on Microsoft Media Viewer and other programs. A
white fog arrives on the screen. Everything is still visible, but
pale. Then the machine locks up, and can only be restarted by
disconnecting the power, at the switch.

I am fairly certain that CyberLink are not to be accused. Their "Power
Director" is running UNDER the buggy system.

The company that sold me the laptop accepted that it was buggy, after
they had seen this one of the 43 faults, and after the test software
had verified the others.

Unfortunately, unless one switches to Apple, there is nothing
available apart from Vista.

XP and earlier systems are being phased out.

Charles Douglas Wehner

Re: Windows Market Place Vista Home Premium
"charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com" <charleswehner[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/14/2008 5:42:41 PM
More news on Vista - which I would now say has an "EXCEPTION HANDLER"
bug, rather than an "ERROR HANDLER" bug.

Exceptions cover errors, and special cases like a program being
interrupted for "Updates".

My new laptop - given by the retailer in exchange for the faulty one,
which they had seen delivering the "Pale Screen of Death",
malfunctioned from the start.

I took the machine home, and late at night tested it for a half hour.
It immediately stated "Windows sidebar does not function any more" or
similar:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/sidebar-gadgets.aspx

However, the sidebar DID work.

I tried to view a 720p video (1280 columns). Windows Media Viewer
would not function. I clicked for full screen, then again for small,
then full screen, and again for small. After six or eight clicks, it
suddenly came to life and I could expand it to full screen. This was
the first time in three months that I had seen my videos full screen.

It continued like that on each video or clip, until I got bored.

Next day, Friday, I switched on at 21:30. It immediately announced
that "Updates are being configured. Section 2 of 3. 7% completed".

The laptop has NO CONNECTION with the Internet, so it could not
possibly be fetching updates. Yet It took plenty of time, as if it
really was configuring updates. Then it shut the computer down. I had
only just turned it on.

The next time I turned it on, it announced "Updates are being
configured. Section 3 of 3. 100% completed".

and again, upon closing down.

Eventually, whilst demonstrating various other faults, it decided to
announce "Updates are being configured. Do not switch the computer
off". Then it locked up, and had to be switched off.

And so it goes on. Including a return of the "Pale Screen of Death".

This machine is NEW. One package was installed by the salesman at the
shop. I myself have installed nothing.

So Vista machines are delivered BROKEN, because Vista is manufactured
in a BROKEN condition.

It is a worldwide problem.

Charles Douglas Wehner

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