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XP Pro Long Filename Protocols
Eagle_over_Time 12/3/2008 10:14:12 AM
Pardon my nostalgia, but I remember in the early 1990s when you get could a
book or two on the Windows and DOS operating system and learn all you needed
to know. I have spent the last half hour surfing the internet and
Microsoft's help search engine to find the answer without success after
flipping through the index of Microsoft Press's Microsoft Windows XP
Inside/Out, Second Edition, in the print edition.

The old limits were 8 characters before the period and three after.

Later, longer file names were allowed with multiple directory lists and file
names using "tilda" characters appeared after the directory command's
execution.

What are the limits in Windows XP Professional for both filename and folder
naming both individually and for the total folder/filename path?

What restrictions are placed on names when burning CDs/DVDs or using backup?

We have encountered lots of error messages and difficulties in writing files
on CD, which we think is associated with the length of the names.

Re: XP Pro Long Filename Protocols
"Olórin" <incanus[ at ]erkljrjre890aeraekj4na.com> 12/3/2008 11:32:38 AM
"Eagle_over_Time" <EagleoverTime[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E78CBEF-75B1-4FE3-946C-151EE0C98B47[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Pardon my nostalgia, but I remember in the early 1990s when you get could
> a
> book or two on the Windows and DOS operating system and learn all you
> needed
> to know. I have spent the last half hour surfing the internet and
> Microsoft's help search engine to find the answer without success after
> flipping through the index of Microsoft Press's Microsoft Windows XP
> Inside/Out, Second Edition, in the print edition.
>
> The old limits were 8 characters before the period and three after.
>
> Later, longer file names were allowed with multiple directory lists and
> file
> names using "tilda" characters appeared after the directory command's
> execution.
>
> What are the limits in Windows XP Professional for both filename and
> folder
> naming both individually and for the total folder/filename path?
>
> What restrictions are placed on names when burning CDs/DVDs or using
> backup?
>
> We have encountered lots of error messages and difficulties in writing
> files
> on CD, which we think is associated with the length of the names.
>

re Windows, try this article:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx

Not sure on figures for CDs, but they can't always handle as many
sub-sub-sub-dirs, etc, and it depends on your burner's settings - ISO 9660,
Joliet, etc. Nero 6 for instance has an option to "Relax restrictions" which
lets you "Allow path depth of more than 8 directories" and "Allow more than
255 characters in path", etc. Maybe check the help file of the burning
software you're using.


Re: XP Pro Long Filename Protocols
Eagle_over_Time 12/3/2008 10:03:31 PM
Further research indicates a CDFS file system.

Is there any knowledge base information for this and their filename lengths?

Thanks for the article link, but I am still looking.

"Olórin" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> "Eagle_over_Time" <EagleoverTime[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0E78CBEF-75B1-4FE3-946C-151EE0C98B47[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Pardon my nostalgia, but I remember in the early 1990s when you get could
> > a
> > book or two on the Windows and DOS operating system and learn all you
> > needed
> > to know. I have spent the last half hour surfing the internet and
> > Microsoft's help search engine to find the answer without success after
> > flipping through the index of Microsoft Press's Microsoft Windows XP
> > Inside/Out, Second Edition, in the print edition.
> >
> > The old limits were 8 characters before the period and three after.
> >
> > Later, longer file names were allowed with multiple directory lists and
> > file
> > names using "tilda" characters appeared after the directory command's
> > execution.
> >
> > What are the limits in Windows XP Professional for both filename and
> > folder
> > naming both individually and for the total folder/filename path?
> >
> > What restrictions are placed on names when burning CDs/DVDs or using
> > backup?
> >
> > We have encountered lots of error messages and difficulties in writing
> > files
> > on CD, which we think is associated with the length of the names.
> >
>
> re Windows, try this article:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx
>
> Not sure on figures for CDs, but they can't always handle as many
> sub-sub-sub-dirs, etc, and it depends on your burner's settings - ISO 9660,
> Joliet, etc. Nero 6 for instance has an option to "Relax restrictions" which
> lets you "Allow path depth of more than 8 directories" and "Allow more than
> 255 characters in path", etc. Maybe check the help file of the burning
> software you're using.
>
>
>
Re: XP Pro Long Filename Protocols
GCB 12/4/2008 3:18:06 PM
Hi Eagle Over Time

You are spot on, I think you'll find the problem in burning the CDs is to
which file system you decide to use as i've had the same problem with Roxio
CD Creator myself on Vista, have a look at:

http://www.buildorbuy.net/cdfs.html

Regards,

G. Lucas MCP

"Eagle_over_Time" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Further research indicates a CDFS file system.
>
> Is there any knowledge base information for this and their filename lengths?
>
> Thanks for the article link, but I am still looking.
>
> "Olórin" wrote:
>
> > "Eagle_over_Time" <EagleoverTime[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0E78CBEF-75B1-4FE3-946C-151EE0C98B47[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > Pardon my nostalgia, but I remember in the early 1990s when you get could
> > > a
> > > book or two on the Windows and DOS operating system and learn all you
> > > needed
> > > to know. I have spent the last half hour surfing the internet and
> > > Microsoft's help search engine to find the answer without success after
> > > flipping through the index of Microsoft Press's Microsoft Windows XP
> > > Inside/Out, Second Edition, in the print edition.
> > >
> > > The old limits were 8 characters before the period and three after.
> > >
> > > Later, longer file names were allowed with multiple directory lists and
> > > file
> > > names using "tilda" characters appeared after the directory command's
> > > execution.
> > >
> > > What are the limits in Windows XP Professional for both filename and
> > > folder
> > > naming both individually and for the total folder/filename path?
> > >
> > > What restrictions are placed on names when burning CDs/DVDs or using
> > > backup?
> > >
> > > We have encountered lots of error messages and difficulties in writing
> > > files
> > > on CD, which we think is associated with the length of the names.
> > >
> >
> > re Windows, try this article:
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx
> >
> > Not sure on figures for CDs, but they can't always handle as many
> > sub-sub-sub-dirs, etc, and it depends on your burner's settings - ISO 9660,
> > Joliet, etc. Nero 6 for instance has an option to "Relax restrictions" which
> > lets you "Allow path depth of more than 8 directories" and "Allow more than
> > 255 characters in path", etc. Maybe check the help file of the burning
> > software you're using.
> >
> >
> >
Re: XP Pro Long Filename Protocols
Eagle_over_Time 12/4/2008 7:50:01 PM
Thanks! I think that answers it for now . . .

"GCB" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hi Eagle Over Time
>
> You are spot on, I think you'll find the problem in burning the CDs is to
> which file system you decide to use as i've had the same problem with Roxio
> CD Creator myself on Vista, have a look at:
>
> http://www.buildorbuy.net/cdfs.html
>
> Regards,
>
> G. Lucas MCP
>
> "Eagle_over_Time" wrote:
>
> > Further research indicates a CDFS file system.
> >
> > Is there any knowledge base information for this and their filename lengths?
> >
> > Thanks for the article link, but I am still looking.
> >
> > "Olórin" wrote:
> >
> > > "Eagle_over_Time" <EagleoverTime[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0E78CBEF-75B1-4FE3-946C-151EE0C98B47[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > > Pardon my nostalgia, but I remember in the early 1990s when you get could
> > > > a
> > > > book or two on the Windows and DOS operating system and learn all you
> > > > needed
> > > > to know. I have spent the last half hour surfing the internet and
> > > > Microsoft's help search engine to find the answer without success after
> > > > flipping through the index of Microsoft Press's Microsoft Windows XP
> > > > Inside/Out, Second Edition, in the print edition.
> > > >
> > > > The old limits were 8 characters before the period and three after.
> > > >
> > > > Later, longer file names were allowed with multiple directory lists and
> > > > file
> > > > names using "tilda" characters appeared after the directory command's
> > > > execution.
> > > >
> > > > What are the limits in Windows XP Professional for both filename and
> > > > folder
> > > > naming both individually and for the total folder/filename path?
> > > >
> > > > What restrictions are placed on names when burning CDs/DVDs or using
> > > > backup?
> > > >
> > > > We have encountered lots of error messages and difficulties in writing
> > > > files
> > > > on CD, which we think is associated with the length of the names.
> > > >
> > >
> > > re Windows, try this article:
> > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx
> > >
> > > Not sure on figures for CDs, but they can't always handle as many
> > > sub-sub-sub-dirs, etc, and it depends on your burner's settings - ISO 9660,
> > > Joliet, etc. Nero 6 for instance has an option to "Relax restrictions" which
> > > lets you "Allow path depth of more than 8 directories" and "Allow more than
> > > 255 characters in path", etc. Maybe check the help file of the burning
> > > software you're using.
> > >
> > >
> > >

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