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Unprivatize files???
"Mr. Z" <nooneXSPAM[ at ]XSPAMbellsouth.net> 12/1/2008 1:03:09 PM
Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.

When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
the files back in the admin account?



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Re: Unprivatize files???
Malke <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> 12/1/2008 1:13:22 PM
Mr. Z wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.
>
> When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
> asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
> Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
> one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
> the files back in the admin account?

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/undoprivate.htm - MVP Ramesh - How to undo "Make
this folder private" option"

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

Re: Unprivatize files???
"Mr. Z" <nooneXSPAM[ at ]XSPAMbellsouth.net> 12/1/2008 1:56:00 PM
"Malke" <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23mMUXa7UJHA.6060[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Mr. Z wrote:
>
> > Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.
> >
> > When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
> > asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
> > Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
> > one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
> > the files back in the admin account?
>
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/undoprivate.htm - MVP Ramesh - How to undo "Make
> this folder private" option"
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>

Thanks, but which files - c:\documents and settings\user of course,
but anywhere else?


Re: Unprivatize files???
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper[ at ]gmail.com> 12/1/2008 2:09:35 PM
Mr. Z wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.
>
> When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
> asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
> Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
> one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
> the files back in the admin account?

Malke wrote:
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/undoprivate.htm - MVP Ramesh - How to
> undo "Make this folder private" option"

Mr. Z wrote:
> Thanks, but which files - c:\documents and settings\user of course,
> but anywhere else?

Whatever folders you made 'private'.

If you only made *your*files private - then it is just c:\documents and
settings\<your username> and all subdirectories (yes - you need to propogate
the settings to all folders/subfolders.)

If you have manually changed the permissions on other folders/files - only
you would know this.

Given what you have - your problem is unlikely to be due to the fact that
you 'privatized the account' (not that you needed to that I see - the
built-in administrator profile is not going to be able to be accessed by a
standard user account (another administrative level, sur, a standarduser,
no.))

- What application(s) (specifically) is your standard user having issues
running that was intalled by the admin?
- What trouble (specifically) is the standard user having with this app?

Many older applications (or badly written ones) do not function well without
administrative rights. Many of them can be 'worked around' by changing the
permissions to their installation directories and/or their registry entries.
Some have 'common areas' they also need access to.

"RegMon" and "FileMon" come in useful when trying to figure out what an
application accesses when ran - so you know what all the users of a computer
(and that app) need permissions to in order to properly run said
application. Another way is usually to upgrade the application to a version
that has been better written (either in the way it works or the way it
installed or both) to work in a multi-user/multi-level enviroment.

If the applications you are trying to run needs access to the user profile
(the only thing that is 'marked private' in the manner described -
c:\documents and settings\<username>) for the administrative user account -
that is a badly written/single user application and you are not fixing
anything, but working around the short-comings of the application and
sharing the same stuff (likely settings) with all users of the computer.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


Re: Unprivatize files???
"Mr. Z" <nooneXSPAM[ at ]XSPAMbellsouth.net> 12/1/2008 2:22:20 PM
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uvKyg67UJHA.1360[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Mr. Z wrote:
> > Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.
> >
> > When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
> > asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
> > Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
> > one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
> > the files back in the admin account?
>
> Malke wrote:
> > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/undoprivate.htm - MVP Ramesh - How to
> > undo "Make this folder private" option"
>
> Mr. Z wrote:
> > Thanks, but which files - c:\documents and settings\user of course,
> > but anywhere else?
>
> Whatever folders you made 'private'.
>
> If you only made *your*files private - then it is just c:\documents and
> settings\<your username> and all subdirectories (yes - you need to
propogate
> the settings to all folders/subfolders.)
>
> If you have manually changed the permissions on other folders/files - only
> you would know this.
>
> Given what you have - your problem is unlikely to be due to the fact that
> you 'privatized the account' (not that you needed to that I see - the
> built-in administrator profile is not going to be able to be accessed by a
> standard user account (another administrative level, sur, a standarduser,
> no.))
>
> - What application(s) (specifically) is your standard user having issues
> running that was intalled by the admin?
> - What trouble (specifically) is the standard user having with this app?
>
> Many older applications (or badly written ones) do not function well
without
> administrative rights. Many of them can be 'worked around' by changing
the
> permissions to their installation directories and/or their registry
entries.
> Some have 'common areas' they also need access to.
>
> "RegMon" and "FileMon" come in useful when trying to figure out what an
> application accesses when ran - so you know what all the users of a
computer
> (and that app) need permissions to in order to properly run said
> application. Another way is usually to upgrade the application to a
version
> that has been better written (either in the way it works or the way it
> installed or both) to work in a multi-user/multi-level enviroment.
>
> If the applications you are trying to run needs access to the user profile
> (the only thing that is 'marked private' in the manner described -
> c:\documents and settings\<username>) for the administrative user
account -
> that is a badly written/single user application and you are not fixing
> anything, but working around the short-comings of the application and
> sharing the same stuff (likely settings) with all users of the computer.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>

"Whatever folders you made 'private'."
Well that's the thing - "I" didn't manually make any folders private,
XP did - if you read my OP.

I'll check RegMon and FileMon to see if they'll help in my case.



Re: Unprivatize files???
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper[ at ]gmail.com> 12/1/2008 2:34:21 PM
Mr. Z wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.
>
> When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
> asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
> Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
> one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
> the files back in the admin account?

Malke wrote:
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/undoprivate.htm - MVP Ramesh - How to
> undo "Make this folder private" option"

Mr. Z wrote:
> Thanks, but which files - c:\documents and settings\user of course,
> but anywhere else?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Whatever folders you made 'private'.
>
> If you only made *your*files private - then it is just c:\documents
> and settings\<your username> and all subdirectories (yes - you need
> to propogate the settings to all folders/subfolders.)
>
> If you have manually changed the permissions on other folders/files
> - only you would know this.
>
> Given what you have - your problem is unlikely to be due to the
> fact that you 'privatized the account' (not that you needed to that
> I see - the built-in administrator profile is not going to be able
> to be accessed by a standard user account (another administrative
> level, sure, a standarduser, no.))
>
> - What application(s) (specifically) is your standard user having
> issues running that was intalled by the admin?
> - What trouble (specifically) is the standard user having with this
> app?
>
> Many older applications (or badly written ones) do not function
> well without administrative rights. Many of them can be 'worked
> around' by changing the permissions to their installation
> directories and/or their registry entries. Some have 'common areas'
> they also need access to.
>
> "RegMon" and "FileMon" come in useful when trying to figure out
> what an application accesses when ran - so you know what all the
> users of a computer (and that app) need permissions to in order to
> properly run said application. Another way is usually to upgrade
> the application to a version that has been better written (either
> in the way it works or the way it installed or both) to work in a
> multi-user/multi-level enviroment.
>
> If the applications you are trying to run needs access to the user
> profile (the only thing that is 'marked private' in the manner
> described - c:\documents and settings\<username>) for the
> administrative user account - that is a badly written/single user
> application and you are not fixing anything, but working around the
> short-comings of the application and sharing the same stuff (likely
> settings) with all users of the computer.

Mr. Z wrote:
> "Whatever folders you made 'private'."
> Well that's the thing - "I" didn't manually make any folders
> private, XP did - if you read my OP.
>
> I'll check RegMon and FileMon to see if they'll help in my case.

If you read the entire posting - I clarified what "Make Private" does - or
more precisely - what it does it to.

"If the applications you are trying to run needs access to the user profile
(the only thing that is 'marked private' in the manner described -
c:\documents and settings\<username>) for the administrative user account -
that is a badly written/single user application and you are not fixing
anything, but working around the short-comings of the application"

The "Make Private" option in Windows XP only appears on folders the user in
question owns exclusively - the user's own profile and folders (C:\documents
and settings\<username> and subdirectories).

You should not get a "Make Private" option on folders located elsewhere on
the mahcine (like anywhere under C:\Program Files\, etc.)

That does not mean you could not have manually changed the file/folder
permissions yourself to 'make private' a set of files/folders.

Again - I don't believe your problem has *anything to do* with the actual
option that presents itself as 'make private' (or whatever the exact wording
may be.)

I'll ask again...

- What application(s) (specifically) is your standard user having
issues running that was intalled by the admin?
- What trouble (specifically) is the standard user having with this
app?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


Re: Unprivatize files???
"Mr. Z" <nooneXSPAM[ at ]XSPAMbellsouth.net> 12/1/2008 5:47:09 PM

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ugitWI8UJHA.5588[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Mr. Z wrote:
> > Windows XP Pro SP3 with latest patches.
> >
> > When I added a p/w to one of my admin accounts, XP
> > asked if I wanted to make its files private-and I answered
> > Yes. Now my standard user is having issues running
> > one of the apps intalled by the admin. How can I "unprivatize"
> > the files back in the admin account?
>
> Malke wrote:
> > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/undoprivate.htm - MVP Ramesh - How to
> > undo "Make this folder private" option"
>
> Mr. Z wrote:
> > Thanks, but which files - c:\documents and settings\user of course,
> > but anywhere else?
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Whatever folders you made 'private'.
> >
> > If you only made *your*files private - then it is just c:\documents
> > and settings\<your username> and all subdirectories (yes - you need
> > to propogate the settings to all folders/subfolders.)
> >
> > If you have manually changed the permissions on other folders/files
> > - only you would know this.
> >
> > Given what you have - your problem is unlikely to be due to the
> > fact that you 'privatized the account' (not that you needed to that
> > I see - the built-in administrator profile is not going to be able
> > to be accessed by a standard user account (another administrative
> > level, sure, a standarduser, no.))
> >
> > - What application(s) (specifically) is your standard user having
> > issues running that was intalled by the admin?
> > - What trouble (specifically) is the standard user having with this
> > app?
> >
> > Many older applications (or badly written ones) do not function
> > well without administrative rights. Many of them can be 'worked
> > around' by changing the permissions to their installation
> > directories and/or their registry entries. Some have 'common areas'
> > they also need access to.
> >
> > "RegMon" and "FileMon" come in useful when trying to figure out
> > what an application accesses when ran - so you know what all the
> > users of a computer (and that app) need permissions to in order to
> > properly run said application. Another way is usually to upgrade
> > the application to a version that has been better written (either
> > in the way it works or the way it installed or both) to work in a
> > multi-user/multi-level enviroment.
> >
> > If the applications you are trying to run needs access to the user
> > profile (the only thing that is 'marked private' in the manner
> > described - c:\documents and settings\<username>) for the
> > administrative user account - that is a badly written/single user
> > application and you are not fixing anything, but working around the
> > short-comings of the application and sharing the same stuff (likely
> > settings) with all users of the computer.
>
> Mr. Z wrote:
> > "Whatever folders you made 'private'."
> > Well that's the thing - "I" didn't manually make any folders
> > private, XP did - if you read my OP.
> >
> > I'll check RegMon and FileMon to see if they'll help in my case.
>
> If you read the entire posting - I clarified what "Make Private" does - or
> more precisely - what it does it to.
>
> "If the applications you are trying to run needs access to the user
profile
> (the only thing that is 'marked private' in the manner described -
> c:\documents and settings\<username>) for the administrative user
account -
> that is a badly written/single user application and you are not fixing
> anything, but working around the short-comings of the application"
>
> The "Make Private" option in Windows XP only appears on folders the user
in
> question owns exclusively - the user's own profile and folders
(C:\documents
> and settings\<username> and subdirectories).
>
> You should not get a "Make Private" option on folders located elsewhere on
> the mahcine (like anywhere under C:\Program Files\, etc.)
>
> That does not mean you could not have manually changed the file/folder
> permissions yourself to 'make private' a set of files/folders.
>
> Again - I don't believe your problem has *anything to do* with the actual
> option that presents itself as 'make private' (or whatever the exact
wording
> may be.)
>
> I'll ask again...
>
> - What application(s) (specifically) is your standard user having
> issues running that was intalled by the admin?
> - What trouble (specifically) is the standard user having with this
> app?
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>

It's a sound card application (Audigy Catalina) where a user can
choose to set the card to output either AC3 or PCM sound. When
the admin account does it, no problem, but when a non-admin
acct. does it, I get a window saying to the extent, 'Can't change
the settings'. What's odd, is I get the error when I log out the
non-admin user.


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