Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/28/2008 3:11:02 PM All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change back one hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next Sunday. When I ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are all my Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time?

Re: Daylight saving not working "Bill P" <BillP[ at ]nospam.invalid> 10/28/2008 4:41:02 PM "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EA99BE94-E6BC-4068-B118-C89A7D23F8C7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change back > one > hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next Sunday. When > I > ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are all my > Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time? Hi Charlie If you are in GMT Time Zone then the clocks did go back one hour last Sunday. Check your time zone setting. Regards Bill

Re: Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/28/2008 5:11:00 PM I live in central time. It's not suppose to go back one hour until first Sunday of November. I've read that this has something to do with SP3 not including Time Zone changes. However, I've not found any solution to this problem. In addition, what happens in SP2 for Windows 2003 server? Is it the same thing? "Bill P" wrote: [Quoted Text] > > "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:EA99BE94-E6BC-4068-B118-C89A7D23F8C7[ at ]microsoft.com... > > All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change back > > one > > hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next Sunday. When > > I > > ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are all my > > Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time? > > > Hi Charlie > If you are in GMT Time Zone then the clocks did go back one hour last > Sunday. Check your time zone setting. > Regards Bill > > >

Re: Daylight saving not working "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 10/28/2008 5:40:10 PM Charlie Start, Control Panel, Date and Time, Time Zone. Have you checked the box under the Globe? However, it didn't work for me last Sunday! -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Charlie wrote: [Quoted Text] > I live in central time. It's not suppose to go back one hour until > first Sunday of November. I've read that this has something to do > with SP3 not including Time Zone changes. However, I've not found any > solution to this problem. In addition, what happens in SP2 for > Windows 2003 server? Is it the same thing? > > "Bill P" wrote: > >> >> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:EA99BE94-E6BC-4068-B118-C89A7D23F8C7[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change >>> back one >>> hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next >>> Sunday. When I >>> ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are >>> all my Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time? >> >> >> Hi Charlie >> If you are in GMT Time Zone then the clocks did go back one hour last >> Sunday. Check your time zone setting. >> Regards Bill

Re: Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/28/2008 6:06:01 PM Yes, I did check that box and it's not working. "Gerry" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Charlie > > Start, Control Panel, Date and Time, Time Zone. Have you checked the box > under the Globe? However, it didn't work for me last Sunday! > > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Charlie wrote: > > I live in central time. It's not suppose to go back one hour until > > first Sunday of November. I've read that this has something to do > > with SP3 not including Time Zone changes. However, I've not found any > > solution to this problem. In addition, what happens in SP2 for > > Windows 2003 server? Is it the same thing? > > > > "Bill P" wrote: > > > >> > >> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:EA99BE94-E6BC-4068-B118-C89A7D23F8C7[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>> All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change > >>> back one > >>> hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next > >>> Sunday. When I > >>> ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are > >>> all my Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time? > >> > >> > >> Hi Charlie > >> If you are in GMT Time Zone then the clocks did go back one hour last > >> Sunday. Check your time zone setting. > >> Regards Bill > > >

Re: Daylight saving not working "Rich/rerat" <rrr_news[ at ]isp.com> 10/28/2008 6:51:04 PM Charlie, Here are the downloads for Australia and the US, due to changes made in those countries in 2007. Download details: Update for Windows XP (KB931836) .... clock on the correct date in 2007 due to revised Daylight ... United States: Change | All Microsoft Sites ... Others who downloaded Update for Windows XP (KB931836) ... http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=66f1420c-df2d-400b-a8a9-ef9061a9a3ca&DisplayLang=en Download details: Australian Daylight Savings Changes for Microsoft ... The Commonwealth Games are scheduled to be held during March 2006 in Melbourne Australia. Several Australian states including New South Wales, Victoria, Australian Capital ... http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=dda845de-9d70-487c-8f7c-093d4dfd1899&displaylang=en -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) <message rule> <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A9525FF8-C056-49EE-B2B8-43D17C301AA6[ at ]microsoft.com... Yes, I did check that box and it's not working. "Gerry" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Charlie > > Start, Control Panel, Date and Time, Time Zone. Have you checked the box > under the Globe? However, it didn't work for me last Sunday! > > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Charlie wrote: > > I live in central time. It's not suppose to go back one hour until > > first Sunday of November. I've read that this has something to do > > with SP3 not including Time Zone changes. However, I've not found any > > solution to this problem. In addition, what happens in SP2 for > > Windows 2003 server? Is it the same thing? > > > > "Bill P" wrote: > > > >> > >> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:EA99BE94-E6BC-4068-B118-C89A7D23F8C7[ at ]microsoft.com... > >>> All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change > >>> back one > >>> hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next > >>> Sunday. When I > >>> ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are > >>> all my Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time? > >> > >> > >> Hi Charlie > >> If you are in GMT Time Zone then the clocks did go back one hour last > >> Sunday. Check your time zone setting. > >> Regards Bill > > >

Re: Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/28/2008 7:33:02 PM I already tried KB931836 and it's giving me that error I've written above. As for the Austrialian, I need the USA version.

Re: Daylight saving not working "Don Phillipson" <e925[ at ]SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> 10/28/2008 10:43:47 PM "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EA99BE94-E6BC-4068-B118-C89A7D23F8C7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > All of my Windows XP Pro workstations got their system time change back one > hour since last Sunday. It's not suppose to change until next Sunday. When I > ran the Windows Update, there is nothing to be update. So why are all my > Windows XP machines showing the incorrect time? They are simply operating as programmed. What changed was the dates (extended by governments of USA and Canada only.) Many agencies got the change wrong (including the Canadian government official time signal . . . fixed within 24 hours.) Cable and satellite TV appear however to have remained up to date, viz. did not terminate DST on the traditional date (last Sunday) and are waiting until the correct date (next Sunday.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)

Re: Daylight saving not working "Rich/rerat" <rrr_news[ at ]isp.com> 10/28/2008 11:02:25 PM Update for Windows XP (KB951072) Brief Description Install this update to resolve an issue that is caused by revised daylight saving time laws in many countries. System Requirements a.. Supported Operating Systems: Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=81D03DA3-846C-4F7F-8791-CD9943CE0893&displaylang=en You will need to validate that you have a Genuine copy of Windows. You can also look on the Windows Update page, and see if this update somehow got hidden and was not installed previously. I believe you need XP SP2 or XP SP3 for these updates. If you are still running XP SP1 or earlier these may not work, until you update to at least XP SP2. -- Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com Rich/rerat (RRR News) <message rule> <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:64EBD493-BE6E-43B4-9C5A-2BF524DAA3B3[ at ]microsoft.com... I already tried KB931836 and it's giving me that error I've written above. As for the Austrialian, I need the USA version.

Re: Daylight saving not working "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 10/29/2008 12:06:00 AM Charlie Isn't the changeover due on 2 November? http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=64 -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Charlie wrote: [Quoted Text] > I already tried KB931836 and it's giving me that error I've written > above. As for the Austrialian, I need the USA version.

Re: Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/29/2008 8:25:00 PM This patch does not work either. I got the same error message when trying to apply the patch on top of SP3. Any other suggestion? "Rich/rerat" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Update for Windows XP (KB951072) > Brief Description > Install this update to resolve an issue that is caused by revised daylight > saving time laws in many countries. > System Requirements > a.. Supported Operating Systems: Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP > Service Pack 3 > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=81D03DA3-846C-4F7F-8791-CD9943CE0893&displaylang=en > > You will need to validate that you have a Genuine copy of Windows. > You can also look on the Windows Update page, and see if this update somehow > got hidden and was not installed previously. I believe you need XP SP2 or XP > SP3 for these updates. If you are still running XP SP1 or earlier these may > not work, until you update to at least XP SP2. > > -- > Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com > Rich/rerat > (RRR News) <message rule> > <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> > > > "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:64EBD493-BE6E-43B4-9C5A-2BF524DAA3B3[ at ]microsoft.com... > I already tried KB931836 and it's giving me that error I've written above. > As > for the Austrialian, I need the USA version. > >

Re: Daylight saving not working "Justin Thyme" <Ken_Bland[ at ]Mindspring.com> 10/29/2008 9:14:11 PM Comment at the bottom "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AB0CDAD3-B0CE-48AB-8222-BE2E7D6B8FF7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > This patch does not work either. I got the same error message when trying > to > apply the patch on top of SP3. Any other suggestion? > > "Rich/rerat" wrote: > >> Update for Windows XP (KB951072) >> Brief Description >> Install this update to resolve an issue that is caused by revised >> daylight >> saving time laws in many countries. >> System Requirements >> a.. Supported Operating Systems: Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP >> Service Pack 3 >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=81D03DA3-846C-4F7F-8791-CD9943CE0893&displaylang=en >> >> You will need to validate that you have a Genuine copy of Windows. >> You can also look on the Windows Update page, and see if this update >> somehow >> got hidden and was not installed previously. I believe you need XP SP2 or >> XP >> SP3 for these updates. If you are still running XP SP1 or earlier these >> may >> not work, until you update to at least XP SP2. >> >> -- >> Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com >> Rich/rerat >> (RRR News) <message rule> >> <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> >> >> >> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:64EBD493-BE6E-43B4-9C5A-2BF524DAA3B3[ at ]microsoft.com... >> I already tried KB931836 and it's giving me that error I've written >> above. >> As >> for the Austrialian, I need the USA version. >> >> I am forwarding here a copy of an e-mail message sent to my daughter last year. Note the name of the app and the link. IIRC the procedure requires two steps but the instructions are accurate. HTH. ================= Letter follows ===================== As I said on the phone, I followed this procedure at the start of DST this year and didn't encounter any trouble. I don't know yet, naturally, if it will correct the clock the first week in November. The application is called "TZEdit.exe" The application changes entries in the registry. It can be performed manually, but no one recommends doing it this way. Microsoft claims that it works on all versions of Windows. I assumed you were using XP, if not, then probably Me (Millennium Edition) or 2000; if not, then previous versions are 98 and 95. I wouldn't go back any farther than that. Here's the link provided by IBM, with explanations: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21253837 ================ End of letter ================ Ken Bland

Re: Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/30/2008 12:40:22 PM Thanks for the response. I already tried the TZEdit.exe utility and it's not working either. I edit the current Central time and it looks correct in and all but when I close that utility out and restart the computer, it goes back to one hour behind. I'm not sure what I should do next. "Justin Thyme" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Comment at the bottom > > "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:AB0CDAD3-B0CE-48AB-8222-BE2E7D6B8FF7[ at ]microsoft.com... > > This patch does not work either. I got the same error message when trying > > to > > apply the patch on top of SP3. Any other suggestion? > > > > "Rich/rerat" wrote: > > > >> Update for Windows XP (KB951072) > >> Brief Description > >> Install this update to resolve an issue that is caused by revised > >> daylight > >> saving time laws in many countries. > >> System Requirements > >> a.. Supported Operating Systems: Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP > >> Service Pack 3 > >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=81D03DA3-846C-4F7F-8791-CD9943CE0893&displaylang=en > >> > >> You will need to validate that you have a Genuine copy of Windows. > >> You can also look on the Windows Update page, and see if this update > >> somehow > >> got hidden and was not installed previously. I believe you need XP SP2 or > >> XP > >> SP3 for these updates. If you are still running XP SP1 or earlier these > >> may > >> not work, until you update to at least XP SP2. > >> > >> -- > >> Add MS to your News Reader: news://msnews.microsoft.com > >> Rich/rerat > >> (RRR News) <message rule> > >> <<Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate>> > >> > >> > >> "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:64EBD493-BE6E-43B4-9C5A-2BF524DAA3B3[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> I already tried KB931836 and it's giving me that error I've written > >> above. > >> As > >> for the Austrialian, I need the USA version. > >> > >> > > I am forwarding here a copy of an e-mail message sent to my daughter last > year. Note the name of the app and the link. IIRC the procedure requires > two steps but the instructions are accurate. HTH. > > ================= Letter follows ===================== > > As I said on the phone, I followed this procedure at the start of DST this > year and didn't encounter any trouble. I don't know yet, naturally, if it > will correct the clock the first week in November. > > The application is called "TZEdit.exe" > > The application changes entries in the registry. It can be performed > manually, but no one recommends doing it this way. > > Microsoft claims that it works on all versions of Windows. I assumed you > were using XP, if not, then probably Me (Millennium Edition) or 2000; if > not, then previous versions are 98 and 95. I wouldn't go back any farther > than that. > > Here's the link provided by IBM, with explanations: > > http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21253837 > > ================ End of letter ================ > > Ken Bland > > >

Re: Daylight saving not working "Justin Thyme" <Ken_Bland[ at ]Mindspring.com> 10/30/2008 4:06:59 PM "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A2E41C3C-2BF4-4815-81EC-91E68BB57257[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Thanks for the response. I already tried the TZEdit.exe utility and it's > not > working either. <Much snipped for clarity> Charlie, I'm not sure what you mean by the "utility ... not working either," but as I said earlier this is a two-step process -- it's not as clear cut as we might like. The link to the IBM site with directions is correct, but not altogether simple. I have extracted the applicable part that describes what I mean by "two-step process." Pay especial attention to the second part, steps 3 and 4, that requires you to change from your time zone to a different one and then back again. Apply the tzedit.exe process to your systems: 1.. Exit out of applications. 2.. Run the executable tzedit.exe using Start > Run, provide the full path, for example: c:\Program Files\TZEdit\tzedit.exe 3.. Your current time zone should be highlighted. Click the Edit button. 4.. Set Start Day to Second Sunday, March. 5.. Set Last Day to First Sunday, November. 6.. Click OK. 7.. Click Close. You need to change your time zone twice using the Windows Date and Time Control Panel. 1.. From the Start menu, click Settings > Control Panel and then click Date and Time. 2.. Click the Time Zone tab. 3.. Select a different time zone and click Apply. 4.. Now, select your time zone and click Apply, then click OK. 5.. Restart your applications. ============= End of Instructions =============== Ken Bland

Re: Daylight saving not working billfwilkie[ at ]yahoo.com 10/30/2008 5:40:05 PM I have had the same problem with many computers here in my office. Some of my machines are Win98 and even Win95. I just gave up. I set all computers to time Zone GMT-7 Arizona ( There are several GMT-7 make sure it is Arizona.) This zone does not use daylight savings. Now I just manually set the time as required. It is a pain but it works. Bill Wilkie

Re: Daylight saving not working Charlie 10/31/2008 3:06:01 PM Thank you for the step by step instruction. It seems to work now. I also tried a fix called DaylightSavingFix.exe and that works too in case anyone have similar problems.

Re: Daylight saving not working "Justin Thyme" <Ken_Bland[ at ]Mindspring.com> 11/2/2008 3:06:18 AM "Charlie" <Charlie[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5F35161C-6659-4057-A152-8A2DE1F19B78[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Thank you for the step by step instruction. It seems to work now. I also > tried a fix called DaylightSavingFix.exe and that works too in case anyone > have similar problems. You're very welcome, Charlie. I hadn't heard about 'DalightSavingFix'. Ken Bland