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Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/11/2008 9:14:24 PM
Hi,

1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with particular
media types (Vista)?

The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares there
are many codecs
for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
problems, such as
Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.

2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would like
from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without encoding.

3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media player
is working
with AviSynth.

Thanks

Trek

Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/12/2008 1:51:20 AM
hmm thanks for answers

1. I can enable or disable codecs but it is not really what I want, I want
to choose default codec for particular situation

2. guess it is not possible

3. it would be great if it is possible to frameserver dvd maker



"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
news:OPnv1V9WJHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hi,
>
> 1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with particular
> media types (Vista)?
>
> The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares
> there are many codecs
> for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
> problems, such as
> Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.
>
> 2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would like
> from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without encoding.
>
> 3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media
> player is working
> with AviSynth.
>
> Thanks
>
> Trek

Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/12/2008 2:26:31 AM
This Vista and bundled Sw is crazy.
I do not know what I did, but dvd maker is now eating avisynth files.

So the last one prob is how to change encoding parameters.
Because I would really like to change at least audio bitrate.



"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
news:e5Mgkw$WJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> hmm thanks for answers
>
> 1. I can enable or disable codecs but it is not really what I want, I want
> to choose default codec for particular situation
>
> 2. guess it is not possible
>
> 3. it would be great if it is possible to frameserver dvd maker
>
>
>
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
> news:OPnv1V9WJHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with particular
>> media types (Vista)?
>>
>> The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares
>> there are many codecs
>> for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
>> problems, such as
>> Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.
>>
>> 2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would
>> like
>> from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without encoding.
>>
>> 3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media
>> player is working
>> with AviSynth.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Trek
>

Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/13/2008 1:39:14 AM
Ok so it is strange.

In 32 bit vista ultimate dvd maker can eat avisynth files.
In 64 bit vista home premium dvd maker can not eat avisynth files.

I checked that graph is the same in both environments
AVI Decompessor -- Video Renderer for video and DefaultDirectSound Device
for audio

I wish I could understand this.



"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
news:e5Mgkw$WJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> hmm thanks for answers
>
> 1. I can enable or disable codecs but it is not really what I want, I want
> to choose default codec for particular situation
>
> 2. guess it is not possible
>
> 3. it would be great if it is possible to frameserver dvd maker
>
>
>
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
> news:OPnv1V9WJHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with particular
>> media types (Vista)?
>>
>> The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares
>> there are many codecs
>> for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
>> problems, such as
>> Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.
>>
>> 2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would
>> like
>> from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without encoding.
>>
>> 3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media
>> player is working
>> with AviSynth.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Trek
>

Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/15/2008 10:01:05 PM
Ok so now its clear.

After some debugging sessions I realized that dvd maker is 64 bit
application (which is clear) and can not load codecs.

On the other hand Windows Media Player is 32-bit application, which is
clear, because if it would be 64 bit we could
not watch anything and users would eat Microsoft.

Isn't it lame?





"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
news:%23DVweOMXJHA.1188[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Ok so it is strange.
>
> In 32 bit vista ultimate dvd maker can eat avisynth files.
> In 64 bit vista home premium dvd maker can not eat avisynth files.
>
> I checked that graph is the same in both environments
> AVI Decompessor -- Video Renderer for video and DefaultDirectSound Device
> for audio
>
> I wish I could understand this.
>
>
>
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
> news:e5Mgkw$WJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> hmm thanks for answers
>>
>> 1. I can enable or disable codecs but it is not really what I want, I
>> want to choose default codec for particular situation
>>
>> 2. guess it is not possible
>>
>> 3. it would be great if it is possible to frameserver dvd maker
>>
>>
>>
>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
>> news:OPnv1V9WJHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with particular
>>> media types (Vista)?
>>>
>>> The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares
>>> there are many codecs
>>> for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
>>> problems, such as
>>> Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.
>>>
>>> 2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would
>>> like
>>> from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without
>>> encoding.
>>>
>>> 3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media
>>> player is working
>>> with AviSynth.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Trek
>>
>

Re: Codecs
"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> 12/16/2008 5:02:45 AM

Sounds like you want to request a 64bit version of AVISynth...

Eating Microsoft probably isn't a helpful response to the actual problem at
hand. It sounds like Microsoft generally has done the 64bit work here and
you and I are just waiting for others to catch up. =)

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
news:%23KeqnCwXJHA.5276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Ok so now its clear.
>
> After some debugging sessions I realized that dvd maker is 64 bit
> application (which is clear) and can not load codecs.
>
> On the other hand Windows Media Player is 32-bit application, which is
> clear, because if it would be 64 bit we could
> not watch anything and users would eat Microsoft.
>
> Isn't it lame?
>
>
>
>
>
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
> news:%23DVweOMXJHA.1188[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Ok so it is strange.
>>
>> In 32 bit vista ultimate dvd maker can eat avisynth files.
>> In 64 bit vista home premium dvd maker can not eat avisynth files.
>>
>> I checked that graph is the same in both environments
>> AVI Decompessor -- Video Renderer for video and DefaultDirectSound Device
>> for audio
>>
>> I wish I could understand this.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
>> news:e5Mgkw$WJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> hmm thanks for answers
>>>
>>> 1. I can enable or disable codecs but it is not really what I want, I
>>> want to choose default codec for particular situation
>>>
>>> 2. guess it is not possible
>>>
>>> 3. it would be great if it is possible to frameserver dvd maker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
>>> news:OPnv1V9WJHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> 1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with
>>>> particular media types (Vista)?
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares
>>>> there are many codecs
>>>> for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
>>>> problems, such as
>>>> Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.
>>>>
>>>> 2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would
>>>> like
>>>> from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without
>>>> encoding.
>>>>
>>>> 3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media
>>>> player is working
>>>> with AviSynth.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Trek
>>>
>>
>

Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/16/2008 5:56:42 PM
Hmm, then I give Micosoft B- mark on its homework.

Because I can not somehow understand why many Microsoft applications and
components in my 64-bit operating system are 32-bit.
I understand support for 32-bit apps, its great, but not applications.

Maybe your programmers were lazy to launch 64-bit build on that apps.
I guess it is time for reduction diet and some sport activities for your
programmers to activise them.




"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> pí¹e v diskusním
pøíspìvku news:117B34AF-2811-4FCB-9750-889E1611D51E[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Sounds like you want to request a 64bit version of AVISynth...
>
> Eating Microsoft probably isn't a helpful response to the actual problem
> at hand. It sounds like Microsoft generally has done the 64bit work here
> and you and I are just waiting for others to catch up. =)
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> --
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
> news:%23KeqnCwXJHA.5276[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Ok so now its clear.
>>
>> After some debugging sessions I realized that dvd maker is 64 bit
>> application (which is clear) and can not load codecs.
>>
>> On the other hand Windows Media Player is 32-bit application, which is
>> clear, because if it would be 64 bit we could
>> not watch anything and users would eat Microsoft.
>>
>> Isn't it lame?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
>> news:%23DVweOMXJHA.1188[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Ok so it is strange.
>>>
>>> In 32 bit vista ultimate dvd maker can eat avisynth files.
>>> In 64 bit vista home premium dvd maker can not eat avisynth files.
>>>
>>> I checked that graph is the same in both environments
>>> AVI Decompessor -- Video Renderer for video and DefaultDirectSound
>>> Device for audio
>>>
>>> I wish I could understand this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
>>> news:e5Mgkw$WJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> hmm thanks for answers
>>>>
>>>> 1. I can enable or disable codecs but it is not really what I want, I
>>>> want to choose default codec for particular situation
>>>>
>>>> 2. guess it is not possible
>>>>
>>>> 3. it would be great if it is possible to frameserver dvd maker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
>>>> news:OPnv1V9WJHA.1184[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. how can I configure which codecs are going to be used with
>>>>> particular media types (Vista)?
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that if there is installed many various media softwares
>>>>> there are many codecs
>>>>> for the same content and I do not wish that. The applications can have
>>>>> problems, such as
>>>>> Windows DVD Maker that can properly work if the right codec is used.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. How can I set up encoding paramters for Windows DVD Maker, I would
>>>>> like
>>>>> from DVD maker only to mux already coded content to DVD without
>>>>> encoding.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. How can I frameserver DVD maker with AviSynth. E.g. Windows media
>>>>> player is working
>>>>> with AviSynth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Trek
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Codecs
"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> 12/17/2008 12:41:12 AM

Your continued attempts at derogatory and mean-spirited comments might be of
value to you, but they're of little interest to me. If it ever mattered -
and it doesn't - everyone I work with is generally pretty fit. For example,
I did a 200 mile bike race last year with my team. You may be interested in
reviewing published pictures of employees: you have a weird
obsession/misperception here, and it should be easy to educate yourself.

I understand it is permanently in vogue to hate and insult others, but it's
kind of my hope that at some point in our civilisation we can maybe move
beyond that and focus on things that matter.

Happy holidays,
-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
news:OFqbwe6XJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Maybe your programmers were lazy to launch 64-bit build on that apps.
> I guess it is time for reduction diet and some sport activities for your
> programmers to activise them.


Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/17/2008 6:18:03 PM
You forgot one very significant detail,
we had to pay biiig money to get Windows Vista (I have 2 licenses),
and applications are not working properly,
so you are hardly in position to defent developers.

And we did not get what we paid for. I paid for 64-bit with 64-bit apps so I
would like to have 64bit WMP.

Otherwise I was not writing about you but Microsoft programmers.
I guess insulting is very proper when the higly paid stuff is not working
and there is no visible progress to make corrections.

Happy Christmas

but you programmers should be at work during Christmas and repair things, I
hope all security holes in IE will be repaired soon.


"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> pí¹e v diskusním
pøíspìvku news:O8UjxA%23XJHA.5312[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Your continued attempts at derogatory and mean-spirited comments might be
> of value to you, but they're of little interest to me. If it ever
> mattered - and it doesn't - everyone I work with is generally pretty fit.
> For example, I did a 200 mile bike race last year with my team. You may
> be interested in reviewing published pictures of employees: you have a
> weird obsession/misperception here, and it should be easy to educate
> yourself.
>
> I understand it is permanently in vogue to hate and insult others, but
> it's kind of my hope that at some point in our civilisation we can maybe
> move beyond that and focus on things that matter.
>
> Happy holidays,
> -Zach
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> --
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
> news:OFqbwe6XJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Maybe your programmers were lazy to launch 64-bit build on that apps.
>> I guess it is time for reduction diet and some sport activities for your
>> programmers to activise them.
>
>

Re: Codecs
"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> 12/17/2008 7:08:47 PM

"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
news:ezULaPHYJHA.2280[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> And we did not get what we paid for. I paid for 64-bit with 64-bit apps so
> I would like to have 64bit WMP.

Um, you already have 64bit WMP on a 64bit Vista system:
%programfiles%\windows media player\wmplayer.exe
%programfiles(x86)%\windows media player\wmplayer.exe
Former is 64bit, latter is 32bit.

> Otherwise I was not writing about you but Microsoft programmers.

That ~does~ happen to be my day job, so you are actually covering me in that
group. =)
And I did work on these very specific areas and issues you are attempting to
work with, so yes, it can indeed be said that you are writing about me. =)

> I guess insulting is very proper when the higly paid stuff is not working
> and there is no visible progress to make corrections.

You complained that you didn't get a 64bit player, and yet it's already on
your system. Evidently these people are so good they went back in time to
make you happy. :D

I appreciate that you a) have passion and b) are new to this area. It would
probably be worthwhile to pause and try to understand things before standing
in judgement. I always find it shameful when I'm mean to people as regards
something I was wrong about. One way I personally try to avoid this is by
being polite and relatively respectful. But that's just me.

I'm happy I solved your "no 64bit player" problem.

Happy holidays,
-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Re: Codecs
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 12/17/2008 7:31:23 PM
See the following link for Vista 64 bit WMP

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/60402-windows-media-player-wmp.html

"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
news:ezULaPHYJHA.2280[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> You forgot one very significant detail,
> we had to pay biiig money to get Windows Vista (I have 2 licenses),
> and applications are not working properly,
> so you are hardly in position to defent developers.
>
> And we did not get what we paid for. I paid for 64-bit with 64-bit apps so
> I would like to have 64bit WMP.
>
> Otherwise I was not writing about you but Microsoft programmers.
> I guess insulting is very proper when the higly paid stuff is not working
> and there is no visible progress to make corrections.
>
> Happy Christmas
>
> but you programmers should be at work during Christmas and repair things,
> I hope all security holes in IE will be repaired soon.
>
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> pí¹e v diskusním
> pøíspìvku news:O8UjxA%23XJHA.5312[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Your continued attempts at derogatory and mean-spirited comments might be
>> of value to you, but they're of little interest to me. If it ever
>> mattered - and it doesn't - everyone I work with is generally pretty fit.
>> For example, I did a 200 mile bike race last year with my team. You may
>> be interested in reviewing published pictures of employees: you have a
>> weird obsession/misperception here, and it should be easy to educate
>> yourself.
>>
>> I understand it is permanently in vogue to hate and insult others, but
>> it's kind of my hope that at some point in our civilisation we can maybe
>> move beyond that and focus on things that matter.
>>
>> Happy holidays,
>> -Zach
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> --
>> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
>> news:OFqbwe6XJHA.5272[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Maybe your programmers were lazy to launch 64-bit build on that apps.
>>> I guess it is time for reduction diet and some sport activities for your
>>> programmers to activise them.
>>
>>
>

Re: Codecs
"Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> 12/18/2008 7:25:54 PM
Good, thanks :-)
At lest some positive news.

Are you working on that codec isolation layer I proposed? :-)




"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> pí¹e v diskusním
pøíspìvku news:ueaejrHYJHA.6000[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
>
> "Trek" <trecicek_no_spam[ at ]centrum.cz> wrote in message
> news:ezULaPHYJHA.2280[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> And we did not get what we paid for. I paid for 64-bit with 64-bit apps
>> so I would like to have 64bit WMP.
>
> Um, you already have 64bit WMP on a 64bit Vista system:
> %programfiles%\windows media player\wmplayer.exe
> %programfiles(x86)%\windows media player\wmplayer.exe
> Former is 64bit, latter is 32bit.
>
>> Otherwise I was not writing about you but Microsoft programmers.
>
> That ~does~ happen to be my day job, so you are actually covering me in
> that group. =)
> And I did work on these very specific areas and issues you are attempting
> to work with, so yes, it can indeed be said that you are writing about me.
> =)
>
>> I guess insulting is very proper when the higly paid stuff is not working
>> and there is no visible progress to make corrections.
>
> You complained that you didn't get a 64bit player, and yet it's already on
> your system. Evidently these people are so good they went back in time to
> make you happy. :D
>
> I appreciate that you a) have passion and b) are new to this area. It
> would probably be worthwhile to pause and try to understand things before
> standing in judgement. I always find it shameful when I'm mean to people
> as regards something I was wrong about. One way I personally try to avoid
> this is by being polite and relatively respectful. But that's just me.
>
> I'm happy I solved your "no 64bit player" problem.
>
> Happy holidays,
> -Zach
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>

Re: Codecs
"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd[ at ]nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> 12/18/2008 10:53:46 PM

I work on a lot of things. Generally I am only able to discuss this after
they have been released. As such, I quietly apologize for not being able to
answer in any fashion questions about future plans.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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