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SCSI controller and Vista x64
"roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> 11/7/2008 11:44:06 PM
Hello!

I would like to connect my Hitachi Ultrastar 36 GB disk to my Vista x64
computer.
I have an old "Initio 9100" SCSI controller which AFAIK is not supported.

At our local computer shop I can order one of the following Adaptec-s:
(a) 2010S SCSI RAID
(b) 29160N OEM
(c) 29320LPE OEM PCIe

It seems that only (c) is supported with drivers from Adaptec:
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_vista_x64?productId=ASC-29320LPE&dn=Adaptect+SCSI+Card+29320LPE
[quote]
Ultra320 64-bit SCSI drivers for Windows Vista x64 for the 29320(A) and
39320(A) series cards
without HostRAID enabled.
[/quote]

What about (a) and (b)? Are the drivers for them built in Vista x64 or
available
via Windows/Microsoft Update? Is there a list of SCSI controllers supported
in Vista x64?

Also the prices for (a), (b) and (c) are 200, 159 and 183 EUR, respectively.
Are there any cheaper SCSI controllers available that are Vista x64
compatible?

Thanks, Roman

Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
"Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan[ at ]bigpond.com> 11/8/2008 1:25:32 AM
While I have no experience with SCSI drives and controllers it seems to me
that if you are willing to spend that much money to get a 36Gb drive running
presumably as a fast boot drive a better option might be to buy a new
Western Digital 10K rpm Raptor Drive with a capacity of either 150 or 300GB.
I am not entirely sure of the cost associated with this as I am in Australia
not Europe but over here the comparitive cost is $300 for the 29320LPE, $370
for the 29160N and $480 for WD3000HLFS 300GB VelociRaptor Hard Drive.

Review of VelociRaptor
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Western_Digital_Velociraptor_300GB/


"roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:eJgcALTQJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello!
>
> I would like to connect my Hitachi Ultrastar 36 GB disk to my Vista x64
> computer.
> I have an old "Initio 9100" SCSI controller which AFAIK is not supported.
>
> At our local computer shop I can order one of the following Adaptec-s:
> (a) 2010S SCSI RAID
> (b) 29160N OEM
> (c) 29320LPE OEM PCIe
>
> It seems that only (c) is supported with drivers from Adaptec:
> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_vista_x64?productId=ASC-29320LPE&dn=Adaptect+SCSI+Card+29320LPE
> [quote]
> Ultra320 64-bit SCSI drivers for Windows Vista x64 for the 29320(A) and
> 39320(A) series cards
> without HostRAID enabled.
> [/quote]
>
> What about (a) and (b)? Are the drivers for them built in Vista x64 or
> available
> via Windows/Microsoft Update? Is there a list of SCSI controllers
> supported
> in Vista x64?
>
> Also the prices for (a), (b) and (c) are 200, 159 and 183 EUR,
> respectively.
> Are there any cheaper SCSI controllers available that are Vista x64
> compatible?
>
> Thanks, Roman
>

Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
"Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan[ at ]bigpond.com> 11/8/2008 3:08:08 AM
Forgot to mention WD3000HLFS 300GB VelociRaptor Hard Drive is SATA2.

"Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan[ at ]bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:OYTdzDUQJHA.4992[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> While I have no experience with SCSI drives and controllers it seems to me
> that if you are willing to spend that much money to get a 36Gb drive
> running presumably as a fast boot drive a better option might be to buy a
> new Western Digital 10K rpm Raptor Drive with a capacity of either 150 or
> 300GB. I am not entirely sure of the cost associated with this as I am in
> Australia not Europe but over here the comparitive cost is $300 for the
> 29320LPE, $370 for the 29160N and $480 for WD3000HLFS 300GB VelociRaptor
> Hard Drive.
>
> Review of VelociRaptor
> http://hothardware.com/Articles/Western_Digital_Velociraptor_300GB/
>
>
> "roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> wrote in message
> news:eJgcALTQJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hello!
>>
>> I would like to connect my Hitachi Ultrastar 36 GB disk to my Vista x64
>> computer.
>> I have an old "Initio 9100" SCSI controller which AFAIK is not supported.
>>
>> At our local computer shop I can order one of the following Adaptec-s:
>> (a) 2010S SCSI RAID
>> (b) 29160N OEM
>> (c) 29320LPE OEM PCIe
>>
>> It seems that only (c) is supported with drivers from Adaptec:
>> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_vista_x64?productId=ASC-29320LPE&dn=Adaptect+SCSI+Card+29320LPE
>> [quote]
>> Ultra320 64-bit SCSI drivers for Windows Vista x64 for the 29320(A) and
>> 39320(A) series cards
>> without HostRAID enabled.
>> [/quote]
>>
>> What about (a) and (b)? Are the drivers for them built in Vista x64 or
>> available
>> via Windows/Microsoft Update? Is there a list of SCSI controllers
>> supported
>> in Vista x64?
>>
>> Also the prices for (a), (b) and (c) are 200, 159 and 183 EUR,
>> respectively.
>> Are there any cheaper SCSI controllers available that are Vista x64
>> compatible?
>>
>> Thanks, Roman
>>
>

Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 11/8/2008 6:03:15 AM
I'd be surprised if the 29160 didn't have drivers, but if Adaptec is only
listing drivers for option (c), then go with that. Though that's a fair
amount of $$ to get your 36 gb drive connected. I'd be more inclined to look
at moving to SAS, instead.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:eJgcALTQJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello!
>
> I would like to connect my Hitachi Ultrastar 36 GB disk to my Vista x64
> computer.
> I have an old "Initio 9100" SCSI controller which AFAIK is not supported.
>
> At our local computer shop I can order one of the following Adaptec-s:
> (a) 2010S SCSI RAID
> (b) 29160N OEM
> (c) 29320LPE OEM PCIe
>
> It seems that only (c) is supported with drivers from Adaptec:
> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_vista_x64?productId=ASC-29320LPE&dn=Adaptect+SCSI+Card+29320LPE
> [quote]
> Ultra320 64-bit SCSI drivers for Windows Vista x64 for the 29320(A) and
> 39320(A) series cards
> without HostRAID enabled.
> [/quote]
>
> What about (a) and (b)? Are the drivers for them built in Vista x64 or
> available
> via Windows/Microsoft Update? Is there a list of SCSI controllers
> supported
> in Vista x64?
>
> Also the prices for (a), (b) and (c) are 200, 159 and 183 EUR,
> respectively.
> Are there any cheaper SCSI controllers available that are Vista x64
> compatible?
>
> Thanks, Roman
>

Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
"roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> 11/8/2008 11:06:19 AM
Hello!

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:OVJjxeWQJHA.4504[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> I'd be surprised if the 29160 didn't have drivers, but if Adaptec is only
> listing drivers for option (c), then go with that. Though that's a fair
> amount of $$ to get your 36 gb drive connected. I'd be more inclined to look
> at moving to SAS, instead.

It seems that 29160 family has built in support:
http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14790
Unfortunately, family 2940 does not :(
http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/scsi/windows/aic78xx_aic78u2_vista_x86_v605456_exe.htm
[quote]
32-bit Driver file for AIC-78xx and AIC-78U2 based SCSI cards and HBAs for Microsoft Vista x86.
Note: This driver will function under the 32-bit version of Windows Server 2008.
There will be no support for x64 Editions of Vista or Server 2008.
[/quote]


BTW, is there a list of all SCSI controllers that are natively supported in Vista x64 ?


Regards, Roman
Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 11/9/2008 6:31:18 AM
I'd be amazed if the 2940 was supported. That's a truely ancient card. I was
running 2940's in the early 90's.

I don't know of such a list. Doesn't mean there isn't one, just I don't know
where it is or how to generate it.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:%23un2PIZQJHA.3404[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello!
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:OVJjxeWQJHA.4504[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I'd be surprised if the 29160 didn't have drivers, but if Adaptec is only
>> listing drivers for option (c), then go with that. Though that's a fair
>> amount of $$ to get your 36 gb drive connected. I'd be more inclined to
>> look at moving to SAS, instead.
>
> It seems that 29160 family has built in support:
> http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14790
> Unfortunately, family 2940 does not :(
> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/scsi/windows/aic78xx_aic78u2_vista_x86_v605456_exe.htm
> [quote]
> 32-bit Driver file for AIC-78xx and AIC-78U2 based SCSI cards and HBAs for
> Microsoft Vista x86.
> Note: This driver will function under the 32-bit version of Windows Server
> 2008. There will be no support for x64 Editions of Vista or Server 2008.
> [/quote]
>
>
> BTW, is there a list of all SCSI controllers that are natively supported
> in Vista x64 ?
>
>
> Regards, Roman

Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
"Tony Sperling" <tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> 11/9/2008 6:36:22 PM
When I started out on the XP Public Beta I bought a cheapish 2010a ( as I
remember?) since there was no 64bit drivers for my Asrock MB at the time -
cannot say about the SCSI, though, but it sounds as there could be a family
relation.


Tony. . .


"roman modic" <modicr[ at ]astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:eJgcALTQJHA.1148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello!
>
> I would like to connect my Hitachi Ultrastar 36 GB disk to my Vista x64
> computer.
> I have an old "Initio 9100" SCSI controller which AFAIK is not supported.
>
> At our local computer shop I can order one of the following Adaptec-s:
> (a) 2010S SCSI RAID
> (b) 29160N OEM
> (c) 29320LPE OEM PCIe
>
> It seems that only (c) is supported with drivers from Adaptec:
> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/downloads/ms/ms_win_vista_x64?productId=ASC-29320LPE&dn=Adaptect+SCSI+Card+29320LPE
> [quote]
> Ultra320 64-bit SCSI drivers for Windows Vista x64 for the 29320(A) and
> 39320(A) series cards
> without HostRAID enabled.
> [/quote]
>
> What about (a) and (b)? Are the drivers for them built in Vista x64 or
> available
> via Windows/Microsoft Update? Is there a list of SCSI controllers
> supported
> in Vista x64?
>
> Also the prices for (a), (b) and (c) are 200, 159 and 183 EUR,
> respectively.
> Are there any cheaper SCSI controllers available that are Vista x64
> compatible?
>
> Thanks, Roman
>


Re: SCSI controller and Vista x64
Jim <jmegas[ at ]cal.berkeley.edu> 11/9/2008 7:41:57 PM
[Quoted Text]
> BTW, is there a list of all SCSI controllers that are natively supported in Vista x64 ?

Roman,

I have a Tyan K8WE (S2895) motherboard with an onboard with two
onboard LSI 320 SCSI controllers. I worried for a long time that I
could not install Vista 64-bit because I could not find the drivers
for the LSI chips. I was pleasantly surprised to find them
automatically installed during the Windows Update part of the Vista 64-
bit install. My guess is that various Adaptec controllers,
particularly the newer ones, are even *more* likely to be supported.

Jim

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