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Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
stalled after running the memory check.
In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
the point where VISTA should boot.
Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
boot.
I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
Art1
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art1
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"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:3522e5b445a0915d0fec60ab30f5a3da[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text] >
> Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
> P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
> just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
> BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
> stalled after running the memory check.
>
> In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
> the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
> former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
> the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
> the point where VISTA should boot.
>
> Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
> shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
> Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
> Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
> scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
> boot.
>
> I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
>
> Art1
>
>
> --
> art1
try reseating memory, cards, cables..
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http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
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There should be a F5, etc Key to put it back to defaults.
Also, pull out the coin sized trickle feed battery in your Mobo, and
reinstall it.
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Mad Mike
"art1" wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
> Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
> P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
> just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
> BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
> stalled after running the memory check.
>
> In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
> the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
> former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
> the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
> the point where VISTA should boot.
>
> Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
> shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
> Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
> Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
> scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
> boot.
>
> I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
>
> Art1
>
>
> --
> art1
>
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Start with knowledge:
1) Vista never POSTS (Power-On Self-Test)
2) Vista never does this because Vista never sees the BIOS as it POSTs
3) POST is a purely hardware-only test from the level of the machine
(the lowest level). Vista has no part in the POST.
4) Normally, what is happening is supposed to happen when something
goes wrong while you were updating the BIOS.
5) Either you used the wrong BIOS update, or you applied it
incorrectly, or you may have lost power during the BIOS flash.
Be prepared for any of these:
a) a motherboard which is now a paperweight (worst case)
b) dead CPU
c) useless BIOS chip, replacement is only recourse
d) As machine begins POST, strike special key to enter BIOS setup
program. ON Award BIOS motherboards, <Delete> will enter the BIOS
setup program or <F12> will give you the Boot menu, one choice of
which will be to enter BIOS setup program.
--
Donald McDaniel
Please reply to original thread
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Donald L McDaniel <orthocross[ at ]invalid.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Start with knowledge:
>
>1) Vista never POSTS (Power-On Self-Test)
>2) Vista never does this because Vista never sees the BIOS as it POSTs
>3) POST is a purely hardware-only test from the level of the machine
>(the lowest level). Vista has no part in the POST.
>4) Normally, what is happening is supposed to happen when something
>goes wrong while you were updating the BIOS.
>5) Either you used the wrong BIOS update, or you applied it
>incorrectly, or you may have lost power during the BIOS flash.
>
>Be prepared for any of these:
>a) a motherboard which is now a paperweight (worst case)
>b) dead CPU
>c) useless BIOS chip, replacement is only recourse
>d) As machine begins POST, strike special key to enter BIOS setup
>program. ON Award BIOS motherboards, <Delete> will enter the BIOS
>setup program or <F12> will give you the Boot menu, one choice of
>which will be to enter BIOS setup program.
You didn't quote what you replied to so I retrieved the original post
and the other replies.
This wasn't caused by flashing the BIOS. The OP entered the BIOS
normally and made some changes which turned out to be disastrous.
Supposedly undid all those changes, but apparently missed something.
I see nothing in your long-winded post that applies.
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art1 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
>Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
>P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
>just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
>BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
>stalled after running the memory check.
What was that "small change"?
>In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
>the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
>former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
>the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
>the point where VISTA should boot.
Now that "small change" has become "several changes". It is apparent
that you didn't undo everything you changed the first time you entered
- or you're not telling the whole story.
>Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
>shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
>Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
>Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
>scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
>boot.
Something is missing here. Setting the BIOS to defaults should have
fixed most any problem. Do you have any special disk setup that
requires tinkering with the BIOS defaults, like RAID?
Did you physically enter the computer to do anything before you
cleared the CMOS?
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"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:3522e5b445a0915d0fec60ab30f5a3da[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text] >
> Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
> P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
> just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
> BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
> stalled after running the memory check.
>
> In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
> the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
> former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
> the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
> the point where VISTA should boot.
>
> Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
> shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
> Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
> Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
> scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
> boot.
>
> I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
>
> Art1
>
>
Confirm (in the bios) that your HD is actually listed as a boot device
For example, your mobo my default to ATA and you have an SATA drive
or visa versa
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Mike Hall - MVP;890447 Wrote:
> "art1" <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:3522e5b445a0915d0fec60ab30f5a3da[ at ]xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
> > >
> > > Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
> > > P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been
> > working
> > > just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
> > > BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
> > > stalled after running the memory check.
> > >
> > >
> > try reseating memory, cards, cables..
> >
> >
> > I have checked and/or reseated as suggested and all seems be be ok.
> >
> > Art1
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art1
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From another computer, download the latest BIOS for your computer MOBO and
install in the manner that your mfg suggests. USB, floppy, etc.
With any luck you only had some sort of power problem that messed up your
current BIOS The point you mention would be where the drives are scanned.
You could try unplugging your drives, HD and CD and see if it gets past that
step. Sounds like you have some sort of hardware problem at this point.
"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:3522e5b445a0915d0fec60ab30f5a3da[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text] >
> Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
> P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
> just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
> BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
> stalled after running the memory check.
>
> In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
> the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
> former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
> the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
> the point where VISTA should boot.
>
> Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
> shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
> Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
> Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
> scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
> boot.
>
> I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
>
> Art1
>
>
> --
> art1
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:35:04 -0800, "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] >From another computer, download the latest BIOS for your computer MOBO and
>install in the manner that your mfg suggests. USB, floppy, etc.
>With any luck you only had some sort of power problem that messed up your
>current BIOS The point you mention would be where the drives are scanned.
>You could try unplugging your drives, HD and CD and see if it gets past that
>step. Sounds like you have some sort of hardware problem at this point.
In fact, it sounds as if the BIOS doesn't see any hard drive(s) at
all.
The OP would know that by checking the main screen after entering. If
it's an older board, re-checking (set on AUTO) might fix it.
>"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>news:3522e5b445a0915d0fec60ab30f5a3da[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
>> P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
>> just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
>> BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
>> stalled after running the memory check.
>>
>> In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
>> the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
>> former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
>> the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
>> the point where VISTA should boot.
>>
>> Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
>> shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
>> Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
>> Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
>> scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
>> boot.
>>
>> I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
>>
>> Art1
>>
>>
>> --
>> art1
PJ White
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Hi,
Try powering off, disconnect the power cord from the wall, then remove the
cmos battery from the motherboard. This will remove any memory of changes
that may be being held by a trickle of power (clearing cmos via jumper
should work, but sometimes things don't do what they're supposed to). Wait
20 minutes, then reinstall the battery, reconnect power and start up. It
should load factory defaults.
If the above fails to get through the POST, you should assume that a
component has failed. It may or may not be related to the changes you made.
It could be merely coincidental. I would check the manual to see if it has
any motherboard diagnostic steps, and possibly check the power supply.
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Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:3522e5b445a0915d0fec60ab30f5a3da[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text] >
> Vista 32 is installed on my year-old homebuilt computer (Gigabyte
> P35T-DQ6 m/b, Award BIOS V6.00PG, Intel E6750 cpu). It's been working
> just great. At the end of a normal computing session, I entered the
> BIOS to make a small change. When I attempted to restart, the POST
> stalled after running the memory check.
>
> In an attempt to correct the problem, I reentered the BIOS and removed
> the several changes I had made and, I think, returned the BIOS to its
> former configuration. However, the result is the same; it stalls after
> the memory check. The rest of the POST does not run. It never gets to
> the point where VISTA should boot.
>
> Since then I have cleared the cleared the CMOS several times by
> shorting the CLR_CMOS (Clearing CMOS Jumper) (Page 34 in the m/b User's
> Manual) and reentered the configuation, loaded "Load Fail-Safe
> Defaults", loaded "Load Optimized Defaults", and again reconfigured from
> scratch. None of these attempts have enabled complete POST nor O/S
> boot.
>
> I'm out of ideas. Your suggestions are solicited.
>
> Art1
>
>
> --
> art1
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Philo,
Yes, the boot order is floppy, DVD-ROM, and then hard drive.
Art1
P.S. Currently, I cannot enter the BIOS. The POST hangs after
completing memory testing with this message:
"Memory Testing : 4193216K OK
Memory Runs at Dual Channel Interleaved"
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art1
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Donald L McDaniel;890802 Wrote:
> Start with knowledge:
>
> 1) Vista never POSTS (Power-On Self-Test)
> 2) Vista never does this because Vista never sees the BIOS as it POSTs
> 3) POST is a purely hardware-only test from the level of the machine
> (the lowest level). Vista has no part in the POST.
> 4) Normally, what is happening is supposed to happen when something
> goes wrong while you were updating the BIOS.
> 5) Either you used the wrong BIOS update, or you applied it
> incorrectly, or you may have lost power during the BIOS flash.
>
> Be prepared for any of these:
> a) a motherboard which is now a paperweight (worst case)
> b) dead CPU
> c) useless BIOS chip, replacement is only recourse
> d) As machine begins POST, strike special key to enter BIOS setup
> program. ON Award BIOS motherboards, <Delete> will enter the BIOS
> setup program or <F12> will give you the Boot menu, one choice of
> which will be to enter BIOS setup program.
>
> --
>
> Donald McDaniel
> Please reply to original thread
> ============================
Donald,
Thanks for your response.
I was careless in composing the title of the thread. It would have been
more accurate had I said, "After changing BIOS settings, computer will
not POST; VISTA 32 does not boot."
I did not attempt to update the BIOS to a new version, but only to
change a couple of settings. In retrospect, I should have adhered to the
adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Art1
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art1
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:53:37 -0600, art1 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com>
wrote:
[Quoted Text] >
>Philo,
>
>Yes, the boot order is floppy, DVD-ROM, and then hard drive.
>
>Art1
>
>P.S. Currently, I cannot enter the BIOS.
This might look dumb at first glance, but are you sure that your
keyboard is working?
>The POST hangs after
>completing memory testing with this message:
>
>"Memory Testing : 4193216K OK
>Memory Runs at Dual Channel Interleaved"
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Snidley W.;890834 Wrote:
> art1 <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote:
> [quotSomething is missing here. Setting the BIOS to defaults should have
fixed most any problem. Do you have any special disk setup that
requires tinkering with the BIOS defaults, like RAID?
When building the machine about a year ago, I had intended to have a
RAID1 configuration. However, I was unsuccessful (this was my first
build) and decided to forgo the RAID in favor of a simple one SATA drive
configuration. When I entered the BIOS intending to shorten the POST
procedure, I discovered that RAID was still noted as an active
configuration. However, there is only 1 hard drive, a SATA drive, in this
machine.
Did you physically enter the computer to do anything before you
cleared the CMOS?
No, I did not. However, since the problem arose, I have opened the machine,
ensured the cards, cables and memory were well seated. By the way, all fans,
including the CPU fan, are working normally. On each restart / cold start
attempt, the computer does complete successfully the Memory Testing. Then it
hangs. I have been unable to reenter the BIOS setup.
As someone else suggested, I did disconnect the floppy disk and SATA drive
power and data cables. But, there was no change. The computer still hangs as
described above.
Art1
P.S. Clearly I'm not using this editing software correctly, but I hope you
can follow the above response.
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art1
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Norman;891886 Wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:53:37 -0600, art1 <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >Philo,
> > >
> > >Yes, the boot order is floppy, DVD-ROM, and then hard drive.
> > >
> > >Art1
> > >
> > >P.S. Currently, I cannot enter the BIOS. > > This might look dumb at first glance, but are you sure that your
> keyboard is working?
> > > >
> > >The POST hangs after
> > >completing memory testing with this message:
> > >
> > >"Memory Testing : 4193216K OK
> > >Memory Runs at Dual Channel Interleaved" > >
I also wondered if the keyboard was really working, so I swapped
keyboards (both ps2 wired). I'm sure it is not the keyboard.
Art1
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art1
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"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
> Philo,
>
> Yes, the boot order is floppy, DVD-ROM, and then hard drive.
>
> Art1
>
> P.S. Currently, I cannot enter the BIOS. The POST hangs after
> completing memory testing with this message:
>
> "Memory Testing : 4193216K OK
> Memory Runs at Dual Channel Interleaved"
>
>
re-read my post please
your response has nothing to do with what I mentioned
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art1 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >When building the machine about a year ago, I had intended to have a
>RAID1 configuration. However, I was unsuccessful (this was my first
>build) and decided to forgo the RAID in favor of a simple one SATA drive
>configuration. When I entered the BIOS intending to shorten the POST
>procedure, I discovered that RAID was still noted as an active
>configuration. However, there is only 1 hard drive, a SATA drive, in this
>machine.
Did you change that setting??? You probably shouldn't have.
As to your not being able to enter the BIOS. Clear the CMOS again.
Doesn't that result in the computer automatically opening it up so you
can change settings?
As for your keyboard being OK... what if you screwed up a serial port
setting while you were in there playing around?
I surely hope you've learned something by all of this.
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If you can't download and replace your BIOS, the odds are something happened
while you were saving your changes that harmed your BIOS chip. You should
contact the mfg of your board mfg if this is the case. You will find
hundreds of similar cases in the discussion groups for the boards requiring
an RMA of the board . At this point it is not a Vista group issue. Good
luck. Gigabyet/Asus is good at diagnosing the problem on the phone and
emails.
"art1" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:906545511b571bb47a2722a668129740[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text] >
> Snidley W.;890834 Wrote:
>> art1 <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote:
>> [quotSomething is missing here. Setting the BIOS to defaults should have
> fixed most any problem. Do you have any special disk setup that
> requires tinkering with the BIOS defaults, like RAID?
>
>
> When building the machine about a year ago, I had intended to have a
> RAID1 configuration. However, I was unsuccessful (this was my first
> build) and decided to forgo the RAID in favor of a simple one SATA drive
> configuration. When I entered the BIOS intending to shorten the POST
> procedure, I discovered that RAID was still noted as an active
> configuration. However, there is only 1 hard drive, a SATA drive, in this
> machine.
>
> Did you physically enter the computer to do anything before you
> cleared the CMOS?
>
> No, I did not. However, since the problem arose, I have opened the
> machine,
> ensured the cards, cables and memory were well seated. By the way, all
> fans,
> including the CPU fan, are working normally. On each restart / cold start
> attempt, the computer does complete successfully the Memory Testing. Then
> it
> hangs. I have been unable to reenter the BIOS setup.
>
> As someone else suggested, I did disconnect the floppy disk and SATA drive
> power and data cables. But, there was no change. The computer still
> hangs as
> described above.
>
> Art1
>
> P.S. Clearly I'm not using this editing software correctly, but I hope
> you
> can follow the above response.
>
>
> --
> art1
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All,
Believe it or not, my computer is now working!
Today I decided to try shorting the CMOS one more time. I did, then
restarted the computer. Lo and behold, the machine POSTed and booted.
At someone's suggestion, I had previously disconnected the hard drive
and the A: drive, then restarted without success. It was after that,
that I reattached the hard drive, but left the A: disconnected and
shorted the CMOS. Then restarted with success.
Wish I knew which action or actions enabled the POST & boot to be
successful. But, I do not. But, it is working!!
Thank you all for your suggestions.
Art1
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art1
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art1 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Wish I knew which action or actions enabled the POST & boot to be
>successful. But, I do not. But, it is working!!
I would guess that previous attempts to clear the CMOS weren't
successful.
Whatever... have you learned anything from all of this??
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