Upgrade to 2008 "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> 12/29/2008 7:52:09 PM Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 rather than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server box just to do the upgrade. Thanks Dave

Re: Upgrade to 2008 Susan Bradley <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> 12/29/2008 7:54:30 PM David Taylor wrote: [Quoted Text] > Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 rather than > a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server box just to do the > upgrade. > > Thanks > > Dave > > There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. Can the existing box support this?

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> 12/29/2008 8:14:31 PM Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The current box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I purchased a new RAID controller and hard drives (needed more storage anyway and old RAID controller was not compatible with '08) thinking I would install and try moving over data from the SBS03 hard drives. Leaving the 03 hard drives in-tact for when things invariably didn't work :-) We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just recreating accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have got to get email to move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we have stuff in SharePoint too. Other critical area is our public website (old ASP - pre .NET - pages but still used extensively). Everything else is mostly just user files (I assume they will move over without incident - even if its just from a backup. Any ideas on getting just email to transfer without "migrating"? Thanks Dave "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > David Taylor wrote: >> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 rather >> than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server box just to >> do the upgrade. >> >> Thanks >> >> Dave > There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. > > Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. > > Can the existing box support this?

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 12/29/2008 8:31:12 PM email - have the users save everything to PSTs. Then put them back after. Don't forget to set a known administrative password on everyone's workstations. SharePoint - there's a version upgrade involved, so it doesn't migrate all that well even with the official migration path. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message news:uAJMRIfaJHA.1532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The current > box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I purchased a new > RAID controller and hard drives (needed more storage anyway and old RAID > controller was not compatible with '08) thinking I would install and try > moving over data from the SBS03 hard drives. Leaving the 03 hard drives > in-tact for when things invariably didn't work :-) > > We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just recreating > accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have got to get email to > move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we have stuff in SharePoint too. > Other critical area is our public website (old ASP - pre .NET - pages but > still used extensively). Everything else is mostly just user files (I > assume they will move over without incident - even if its just from a > backup. Any ideas on getting just email to transfer without "migrating"? > > Thanks > Dave > > > "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message > news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> David Taylor wrote: >>> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 rather >>> than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server box just to >>> do the upgrade. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Dave >> There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. >> >> Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. >> >> Can the existing box support this? > >

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> 12/29/2008 9:13:29 PM Thanks...I'll give that a shot with the PST files. As for SharePoint, sounds like a good reason to junk SharePoint altogether...it has never upgraded correctly - hence two versions of it running on my current SBS installation. Gets me thinking that maybe the upgrade isn't worth the hassle...I'm not sure what, if anything, I'm actually gaining from what I'm sure will be a painful experience. I got the SBS08 via software assurance...but that doesn't mean I *must* upgrade of course :-) "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:%23N3MlRfaJHA.552[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > email - have the users save everything to PSTs. Then put them back after. > Don't forget to set a known administrative password on everyone's > workstations. > > SharePoint - there's a version upgrade involved, so it doesn't migrate all > that well even with the official migration path. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message > news:uAJMRIfaJHA.1532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The current >> box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I purchased a new >> RAID controller and hard drives (needed more storage anyway and old RAID >> controller was not compatible with '08) thinking I would install and try >> moving over data from the SBS03 hard drives. Leaving the 03 hard drives >> in-tact for when things invariably didn't work :-) >> >> We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just recreating >> accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have got to get email to >> move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we have stuff in SharePoint too. >> Other critical area is our public website (old ASP - pre .NET - pages but >> still used extensively). Everything else is mostly just user files (I >> assume they will move over without incident - even if its just from a >> backup. Any ideas on getting just email to transfer without "migrating"? >> >> Thanks >> Dave >> >> >> "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message >> news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> David Taylor wrote: >>>> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 rather >>>> than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server box just >>>> to do the upgrade. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Dave >>> There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. >>> >>> Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. >>> >>> Can the existing box support this? >> >> >

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "Chad A Gross" <chad.gross[ at ]laytonflower.nospam.com> 12/29/2008 10:10:15 PM You say you're running two versions of SharePoint on your server now - are you using SharePoint 3.0 as your production site? If so, WSS 3.0 moves much easier than WSS 2.0 -- Chad A Gross http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/cgross "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message news:OOdkPpfaJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Thanks...I'll give that a shot with the PST files. As for SharePoint, > sounds like a good reason to junk SharePoint altogether...it has never > upgraded correctly - hence two versions of it running on my current SBS > installation. > > Gets me thinking that maybe the upgrade isn't worth the hassle...I'm not > sure what, if anything, I'm actually gaining from what I'm sure will be a > painful experience. I got the SBS08 via software assurance...but that > doesn't mean I *must* upgrade of course :-) > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:%23N3MlRfaJHA.552[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> email - have the users save everything to PSTs. Then put them back after. >> Don't forget to set a known administrative password on everyone's >> workstations. >> >> SharePoint - there's a version upgrade involved, so it doesn't migrate >> all that well even with the official migration path. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message >> news:uAJMRIfaJHA.1532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The >>> current box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I >>> purchased a new RAID controller and hard drives (needed more storage >>> anyway and old RAID controller was not compatible with '08) thinking I >>> would install and try moving over data from the SBS03 hard drives. >>> Leaving the 03 hard drives in-tact for when things invariably didn't >>> work :-) >>> >>> We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just recreating >>> accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have got to get email >>> to move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we have stuff in SharePoint >>> too. Other critical area is our public website (old ASP - pre .NET - >>> pages but still used extensively). Everything else is mostly just user >>> files (I assume they will move over without incident - even if its just >>> from a backup. Any ideas on getting just email to transfer without >>> "migrating"? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message >>> news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> David Taylor wrote: >>>>> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 >>>>> rather than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server >>>>> box just to do the upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>> There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. >>>> >>>> Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. >>>> >>>> Can the existing box support this? >>> >>> >> > >

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 12/30/2008 7:06:58 AM Well, personally, I wouldn't hesitate to move. But then, I made the move to 64-bit a long time ago, and with SBS 2008 Premium, I get a second server to run TS RemoteApps on. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message news:OOdkPpfaJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Thanks...I'll give that a shot with the PST files. As for SharePoint, > sounds like a good reason to junk SharePoint altogether...it has never > upgraded correctly - hence two versions of it running on my current SBS > installation. > > Gets me thinking that maybe the upgrade isn't worth the hassle...I'm not > sure what, if anything, I'm actually gaining from what I'm sure will be a > painful experience. I got the SBS08 via software assurance...but that > doesn't mean I *must* upgrade of course :-) > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:%23N3MlRfaJHA.552[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> email - have the users save everything to PSTs. Then put them back after. >> Don't forget to set a known administrative password on everyone's >> workstations. >> >> SharePoint - there's a version upgrade involved, so it doesn't migrate >> all that well even with the official migration path. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message >> news:uAJMRIfaJHA.1532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The >>> current box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I >>> purchased a new RAID controller and hard drives (needed more storage >>> anyway and old RAID controller was not compatible with '08) thinking I >>> would install and try moving over data from the SBS03 hard drives. >>> Leaving the 03 hard drives in-tact for when things invariably didn't >>> work :-) >>> >>> We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just recreating >>> accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have got to get email >>> to move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we have stuff in SharePoint >>> too. Other critical area is our public website (old ASP - pre .NET - >>> pages but still used extensively). Everything else is mostly just user >>> files (I assume they will move over without incident - even if its just >>> from a backup. Any ideas on getting just email to transfer without >>> "migrating"? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message >>> news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> David Taylor wrote: >>>>> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 >>>>> rather than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new server >>>>> box just to do the upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>> There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. >>>> >>>> Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. >>>> >>>> Can the existing box support this? >>> >>> >> > >

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS[ at ]SPAMFREE.gmail.com> 12/30/2008 4:10:54 PM Charlie Russel - MVP wrote: [Quoted Text] > Well, personally, I wouldn't hesitate to move. But then, I made the > move to 64-bit a long time ago, and with SBS 2008 Premium, I get a > second server to run TS RemoteApps on. In addtion to all the other benefits of 64 bit, remote apps ROCK! But maybe I've understated that. > > > "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message > news:OOdkPpfaJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Thanks...I'll give that a shot with the PST files. As for >> SharePoint, sounds like a good reason to junk SharePoint >> altogether...it has never upgraded correctly - hence two versions of >> it running on my current SBS installation. >> >> Gets me thinking that maybe the upgrade isn't worth the hassle...I'm >> not sure what, if anything, I'm actually gaining from what I'm sure >> will be a painful experience. I got the SBS08 via software >> assurance...but that doesn't mean I *must* upgrade of course :-) >> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >> message news:%23N3MlRfaJHA.552[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> email - have the users save everything to PSTs. Then put them back >>> after. Don't forget to set a known administrative password on >>> everyone's workstations. >>> >>> SharePoint - there's a version upgrade involved, so it doesn't >>> migrate all that well even with the official migration path. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>> >>> "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message >>> news:uAJMRIfaJHA.1532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The >>>> current box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I >>>> purchased a new RAID controller and hard drives (needed more >>>> storage anyway and old RAID controller was not compatible with >>>> '08) thinking I would install and try moving over data from the >>>> SBS03 hard drives. Leaving the 03 hard drives in-tact for when >>>> things invariably didn't work :-) >>>> >>>> We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just >>>> recreating accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have >>>> got to get email to move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we >>>> have stuff in SharePoint too. Other critical area is our public >>>> website (old ASP - pre .NET - pages but still used extensively). >>>> Everything else is mostly just user files (I assume they will move >>>> over without incident - even if its just from a backup. Any ideas >>>> on getting just email to transfer without "migrating"? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message >>>> news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> David Taylor wrote: >>>>>> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 >>>>>> rather than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new >>>>>> server box just to do the upgrade. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>> There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. >>>>> >>>>> Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. >>>>> >>>>> Can the existing box support this? -- /kj

Re: Upgrade to 2008 "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 12/30/2008 6:18:22 PM RemoteApps are THE killer feature in Server 2k8. Even more than Hyper-V. I _live_ in RemoteApps. (I'm running Windows Mail as a RemoteApp, for example.) -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS[ at ]SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message news:u2aX7lpaJHA.2716[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Charlie Russel - MVP wrote: >> Well, personally, I wouldn't hesitate to move. But then, I made the >> move to 64-bit a long time ago, and with SBS 2008 Premium, I get a >> second server to run TS RemoteApps on. > > In addtion to all the other benefits of 64 bit, remote apps ROCK! But > maybe I've understated that. > >> >> >> "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message >> news:OOdkPpfaJHA.3548[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks...I'll give that a shot with the PST files. As for >>> SharePoint, sounds like a good reason to junk SharePoint >>> altogether...it has never upgraded correctly - hence two versions of >>> it running on my current SBS installation. >>> >>> Gets me thinking that maybe the upgrade isn't worth the hassle...I'm >>> not sure what, if anything, I'm actually gaining from what I'm sure >>> will be a painful experience. I got the SBS08 via software >>> assurance...but that doesn't mean I *must* upgrade of course :-) >>> >>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >>> message news:%23N3MlRfaJHA.552[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> email - have the users save everything to PSTs. Then put them back >>>> after. Don't forget to set a known administrative password on >>>> everyone's workstations. >>>> >>>> SharePoint - there's a version upgrade involved, so it doesn't >>>> migrate all that well even with the official migration path. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charlie. >>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>>> >>>> "David Taylor" <dave[ at ]processeng.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uAJMRIfaJHA.1532[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Thanks for the reply...don't have VMWare so I can't do that. The >>>>> current box is a dual Xeon processor 2.4GHz box with 8GB RAM. I >>>>> purchased a new RAID controller and hard drives (needed more >>>>> storage anyway and old RAID controller was not compatible with >>>>> '08) thinking I would install and try moving over data from the >>>>> SBS03 hard drives. Leaving the 03 hard drives in-tact for when >>>>> things invariably didn't work :-) >>>>> >>>>> We're very small business (8 people) so the thought of just >>>>> recreating accounts etc is not the end of the world...but I have >>>>> got to get email to move over (critical) and, unfortunately, we >>>>> have stuff in SharePoint too. Other critical area is our public >>>>> website (old ASP - pre .NET - pages but still used extensively). >>>>> Everything else is mostly just user files (I assume they will move >>>>> over without incident - even if its just from a backup. Any ideas >>>>> on getting just email to transfer without "migrating"? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa[ at ]pacbell.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23PjzD9eaJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> David Taylor wrote: >>>>>>> Is there any method to do an "upgrade" from SBS2003R2 to SBS2008 >>>>>>> rather than a migration? It is hard to justify buying a new >>>>>>> server box just to do the upgrade. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>> There is no way to do a 32 bit to 64 big other than migration. >>>>>> >>>>>> Image it off to a vmware, swing it back on the same box. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can the existing box support this? > > -- > /kj >