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Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD?
Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE using add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the drive. but didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am still around! :)
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"Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? > > Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE > using > add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the drive. > but > didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a friend who > doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the recovery cd. Any > help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am still around! :) > >
If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a copy for her.
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I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? > > Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE > using > add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the drive. > but > didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a friend who > doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the recovery cd. Any > help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am still around! :) > >
If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a copy for her.
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Rainy
The OS and the OEM manufacturer has to be exactly the same. The answer is NO. What is the problem with OE. Can you post it along with the error message(s) that is shown. Most likely it can be fixed.
-- Peter
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"Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:euA5R6pZJHA.1336[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home oem? I > didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy > "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message > news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... > "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message > news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >> >> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE >> using >> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the drive. >> but >> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a friend who >> doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the recovery cd. Any >> help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am still around! :) >> >> > If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro OEM and > if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a copy for her. > > >
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[Quoted Text] > I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home > oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy > "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message > news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... > "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message > news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >> >> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE >> using >> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the >> drive. but >> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a >> friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the >> recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am >> still around! :) >> >> > If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro > OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a > copy for her.
I'd say yes, it is possible to use the recovery CD/s to reinstall OE/IE as long as she has them all and the keycodes too. The keycode may not be necessary for a quickl repair install or single expand if that's your plan, but if you can find it and set it aside for her then she'll have it in the future for when it is needed.
As for using your XP CD: It can be done, and it may or may not be "legal" and it may or may not work; it depends on what you do with it. In some instances I'd try it. But since IE (which includes OE) version 6 or 7 are available for download, and if you're certain that's what you need to do, then I'd try downloading and installing IE6 or 7, whichever you want, first. OEM XP is tied to the computer it was first installed on and may or may not work on another piece of hardware and if reactiviation is triggered, that will cause problems. Retail versions, without the OEM in the key are a slightly different situation.
OTOH, if she has the CD and recovery programs that came with the computer, she can also reinstall it that way too. If it's a case of her not having the recovery software she needs for some reason, you wouldn't really be doing her any favors because problems are going to crop up again sooner or later and this issue of not having recovery ability will just come back to haunt her. IMO it's best to opt for the most permanent, forward looking solution espeically in a case like this.
HTH
Twayne
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thanks Twayne.. Yes she is running an OEM version.. I also have Windows XP home OEM.. she has tried using the recovery cd to reinstall the way I am used to and when she tries, it comes back and tells her she has a newer version and stops there.. I have also tried to show her to edit the registry by changing the Dword to 0 instead of 1 on both IE and OE keys.. I'm sorry I can't remember the keys now.. but that did not work.. I have told her that when she gets it fixed, she should be backing up the DBX so she can copy them back in case something happens again.. Chances are it's corrupted folders which OE is famous for.. In the mean time OE will open but she cannot open any mail there.. can't do much of anything except to view her inbox I'm wondering if she can remove some of the dbx files and see if she by chance removes the files that are corrupted.. she will lose some folders but better than not using OE at all.
She doesn't know how to repair her operating system using the recovery cd and neither do I.. I had another friend who had a recover cd and was able to do a half (it was called) reinstallation...but I don't have a clue how to do this.. or I could show her.
The lady I am trying to help is in Canada so I it's hard for me to help without seeing things first hand.. I will be trying to burn my cd and shipping it to her.Unfortunately I will have to wait until the third of the month to do this.. I'm tapped out! . christmas you know! lol but knowing her she will probably format, she's not real patient.. lol hugs Rainy
"Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:Ox0UdMrZJHA.3908[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home > oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy
"Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message > news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... > "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message > news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >> >> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE >> using >> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the >> drive. but >> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a >> friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the >> recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am >> still around! :) >> >> > If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro > OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a > copy for her.
I'd say yes, it is possible to use the recovery CD/s to reinstall OE/IE as long as she has them all and the keycodes too. The keycode may not be necessary for a quickl repair install or single expand if that's your plan, but if you can find it and set it aside for her then she'll have it in the future for when it is needed.
As for using your XP CD: It can be done, and it may or may not be "legal" and it may or may not work; it depends on what you do with it. In some instances I'd try it. But since IE (which includes OE) version 6 or 7 are available for download, and if you're certain that's what you need to do, then I'd try downloading and installing IE6 or 7, whichever you want, first. OEM XP is tied to the computer it was first installed on and may or may not work on another piece of hardware and if reactiviation is triggered, that will cause problems. Retail versions, without the OEM in the key are a slightly different situation.
OTOH, if she has the CD and recovery programs that came with the computer, she can also reinstall it that way too. If it's a case of her not having the recovery software she needs for some reason, you wouldn't really be doing her any favors because problems are going to crop up again sooner or later and this issue of not having recovery ability will just come back to haunt her. IMO it's best to opt for the most permanent, forward looking solution espeically in a case like this.
HTH
Twayne
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Hi Peter.. thanks for your response.. can you look at my response to Twayne.. see if there is any information there.. that can help you help my friend.. thanks Rainy "Peter Foldes" <okf122[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%239rAKTqZJHA.4520[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Rainy
The OS and the OEM manufacturer has to be exactly the same. The answer is NO. What is the problem with OE. Can you post it along with the error message(s) that is shown. Most likely it can be fixed.
-- Peter
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"Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:euA5R6pZJHA.1336[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home oem? I > didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy > "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message > news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... > "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message > news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >> >> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE >> using >> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the drive. >> but >> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a friend >> who >> doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the recovery cd. >> Any >> help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am still around! :) >> >> > If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro OEM > and > if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a copy for > her. > > >
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To back/Restore up emails: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
Recovering Lost Messages: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 Item 2 on that page may not be something you should tell her about; it requires remembering to do manual compacting of the files.
General info: http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/index.htm
And about the OE corruption you mentioned: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
HTH
[Quoted Text] > thanks Twayne.. Yes she is running an OEM version.. I also have > Windows XP home OEM.. she has tried using the recovery cd to > reinstall the way I am used to and when she tries, it comes back and > tells her she has a newer version and stops there.. I have also tried > to show her to edit the registry by changing the Dword to 0 instead > of 1 on both IE and OE keys.. I'm sorry I can't remember the keys > now.. but that did not work.. I have told her that when she gets it > fixed, she should be backing up the DBX so she can copy them back in > case something happens again.. Chances are it's corrupted folders > which OE is famous for.. In the mean time OE will open but she cannot > open any mail there.. can't do much of anything except to view her > inbox I'm wondering if she can remove some of the dbx files and see > if she by chance removes the files that are corrupted.. she will lose > some folders but better than not using OE at all. > > She doesn't know how to repair her operating system using the > recovery cd and neither do I.. I had another friend who had a recover > cd and was able to do a half (it was called) reinstallation...but I > don't have a clue how to do this.. or I could show her. > > The lady I am trying to help is in Canada so I it's hard for me to > help without seeing things first hand.. I will be trying to burn my > cd and shipping it to her.Unfortunately I will have to wait until the > third of the month to do this.. I'm tapped out! . christmas you know! > lol but knowing her she will probably format, she's not real > patient.. lol hugs Rainy > > > "Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:Ox0UdMrZJHA.3908[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home >> oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy > > "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message >> news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... >> "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >>> >>> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and >>> OE using >>> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the >>> drive. but >>> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a >>> friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the >>> recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am >>> still around! :) >>> >>> >> If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro >> OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a >> copy for her. > > I'd say yes, it is possible to use the recovery CD/s to reinstall > OE/IE > as long as she has them all and the keycodes too. The keycode may not > be necessary for a quickl repair install or single expand if that's > your plan, but if you can find it and set it aside for her then > she'll have > it in the future for when it is needed. > > As for using your XP CD: > It can be done, and it may or may not be "legal" and it may or may not > work; it depends on what you do with it. In some instances I'd try > it. But since IE (which includes OE) version 6 or 7 are available > for > download, and if you're certain that's what you need to do, then I'd > try downloading and installing IE6 or 7, whichever you want, first. > OEM XP is tied to the computer it was first installed on and may or > may not work on another piece of hardware and if reactiviation is > triggered, that will cause problems. Retail versions, without the OEM > in the key are a slightly different situation. > > OTOH, if she has the CD and recovery programs that came with the > computer, she can also reinstall it that way too. If it's a case of > her not having the recovery software she needs for some reason, you > wouldn't really be doing her any favors because problems are going to > crop up > again sooner or later and this issue of not having recovery ability > will just come back to haunt her. > IMO it's best to opt for the most permanent, forward looking > solution espeically in a case like this. > > HTH > > Twayne
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thank you so much, you have certainly given me a lot to figure out.. and a lot of information.. thanks, Rainy "Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:u5Sb5qvZJHA.880[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... To back/Restore up emails: http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
Recovering Lost Messages: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 Item 2 on that page may not be something you should tell her about; it requires remembering to do manual compacting of the files.
General info: http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/index.htm
And about the OE corruption you mentioned: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
HTH
[Quoted Text] > thanks Twayne.. Yes she is running an OEM version.. I also have > Windows XP home OEM.. she has tried using the recovery cd to > reinstall the way I am used to and when she tries, it comes back and > tells her she has a newer version and stops there.. I have also tried > to show her to edit the registry by changing the Dword to 0 instead > of 1 on both IE and OE keys.. I'm sorry I can't remember the keys > now.. but that did not work.. I have told her that when she gets it > fixed, she should be backing up the DBX so she can copy them back in > case something happens again.. Chances are it's corrupted folders > which OE is famous for.. In the mean time OE will open but she cannot > open any mail there.. can't do much of anything except to view her > inbox I'm wondering if she can remove some of the dbx files and see > if she by chance removes the files that are corrupted.. she will lose > some folders but better than not using OE at all. > > She doesn't know how to repair her operating system using the > recovery cd and neither do I.. I had another friend who had a recover > cd and was able to do a half (it was called) reinstallation...but I > don't have a clue how to do this.. or I could show her. > > The lady I am trying to help is in Canada so I it's hard for me to > help without seeing things first hand.. I will be trying to burn my > cd and shipping it to her.Unfortunately I will have to wait until the > third of the month to do this.. I'm tapped out! . christmas you know! > lol but knowing her she will probably format, she's not real > patient.. lol hugs Rainy > > > "Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:Ox0UdMrZJHA.3908[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home >> oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy > > "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message >> news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... >> "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >>> >>> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and >>> OE using >>> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the >>> drive. but >>> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a >>> friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the >>> recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am >>> still around! :) >>> >>> >> If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro >> OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a >> copy for her. > > I'd say yes, it is possible to use the recovery CD/s to reinstall > OE/IE > as long as she has them all and the keycodes too. The keycode may not > be necessary for a quickl repair install or single expand if that's > your plan, but if you can find it and set it aside for her then > she'll have > it in the future for when it is needed. > > As for using your XP CD: > It can be done, and it may or may not be "legal" and it may or may not > work; it depends on what you do with it. In some instances I'd try > it. But since IE (which includes OE) version 6 or 7 are available > for > download, and if you're certain that's what you need to do, then I'd > try downloading and installing IE6 or 7, whichever you want, first. > OEM XP is tied to the computer it was first installed on and may or > may not work on another piece of hardware and if reactiviation is > triggered, that will cause problems. Retail versions, without the OEM > in the key are a slightly different situation. > > OTOH, if she has the CD and recovery programs that came with the > computer, she can also reinstall it that way too. If it's a case of > her not having the recovery software she needs for some reason, you > wouldn't really be doing her any favors because problems are going to > crop up > again sooner or later and this issue of not having recovery ability > will just come back to haunt her. > IMO it's best to opt for the most permanent, forward looking > solution espeically in a case like this. > > HTH > > Twayne
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"Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:Ox0UdMrZJHA.3908[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > >> I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home >> oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy >> "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message >> news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... >> "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >>> >>> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and OE >>> using >>> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the >>> drive. but >>> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a >>> friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the >>> recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am >>> still around! :) >>> >>> >> If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro >> OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make a >> copy for her. > > I'd say yes, it is possible to use the recovery CD/s to reinstall OE/IE as > long as she has them all and the keycodes too. The keycode may not be > necessary for a quickl repair install or single expand if that's your > plan, but if you can find it and set it aside for her then she'll have it > in the future for when it is needed. > > As for using your XP CD: > It can be done, and it may or may not be "legal" and it may or may not > work; it depends on what you do with it. In some instances I'd try it. > But since IE (which includes OE) version 6 or 7 are available for > download, and if you're certain that's what you need to do, then I'd try > downloading and installing IE6 or 7, whichever you want, first. > OEM XP is tied to the computer it was first installed on and may or may > not work on another piece of hardware and if reactiviation is triggered, > that will cause problems. Retail versions, without the OEM in the key are > a slightly different situation. > > OTOH, if she has the CD and recovery programs that came with the computer, > she can also reinstall it that way too. If it's a case of her not having > the recovery software she needs for some reason, you wouldn't really be > doing her any favors because problems are going to crop up again sooner or > later and this issue of not having recovery ability will just come back to > haunt her. > IMO it's best to opt for the most permanent, forward looking solution > espeically in a case like this. > > HTH > > Twayne
The XP OEM license is tied to the computer not the XP OEM cd.
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[Quoted Text] > "Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:Ox0UdMrZJHA.3908[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >>> I will ask her.. you mean I can burn a copy of my windows xp home >>> oem? I didn't think that was legal to do.. Rainy >>> "Jerry" <Hello[ at ]spammers.com> wrote in message >>> news:giv2c1$elk$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... >>> "Rainy" <love_sweetz[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:u0agBgjZJHA.5772[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Repaing Outlook Express using the Windows XP Recovery CD? >>>> >>>> Is this possible? I am used to repairing or reinstalling IE and >>>> OE using >>>> add and remove, add wndows components and having my xp cd in the >>>> drive. but >>>> didn't know if it could be done using the recovery cd..I have a >>>> friend who doesn't have the cd.. and the only thing she has is the >>>> recovery cd. Any help appreciated.. thanks Rainy PS yes I am >>>> still around! :) >>>> >>>> >>> If she has a recovery cd then she is probably running XP home or pro >>> OEM and if you happen to have an OEM of the same version, just make >>> a copy for her. >> >> I'd say yes, it is possible to use the recovery CD/s to reinstall >> OE/IE as long as she has them all and the keycodes too. The keycode >> may not be necessary for a quickl repair install or single expand if >> that's your plan, but if you can find it and set it aside for her >> then she'll have it in the future for when it is needed. >> >> As for using your XP CD: >> It can be done, and it may or may not be "legal" and it may or may >> not work; it depends on what you do with it. In some instances I'd >> try it. But since IE (which includes OE) version 6 or 7 are >> available for download, and if you're certain that's what you need >> to do, then I'd try downloading and installing IE6 or 7, whichever >> you want, first. OEM XP is tied to the computer it was first >> installed on and may or may not work on another piece of hardware >> and if reactiviation is triggered, that will cause problems. Retail >> versions, without the OEM in the key are a slightly different >> situation. OTOH, if she has the CD and recovery programs that came >> with the >> computer, she can also reinstall it that way too. If it's a case of >> her not having the recovery software she needs for some reason, you >> wouldn't really be doing her any favors because problems are going >> to crop up again sooner or later and this issue of not having >> recovery ability will just come back to haunt her. >> IMO it's best to opt for the most permanent, forward looking >> solution espeically in a case like this. >> >> HTH >> >> Twayne > > The XP OEM license is tied to the computer not the XP OEM cd.
Right. That's why most times an activation will fail.
They get tied together in a couple of ways:
The OEM PC vendor bastardizes the CD to work specifically with their own hardware. Often these won't install at all on another machine that doesn't have the same certain hardware IDs. But that doesn't stop one from using/expanding the files on the CD for most purposes.
The other, more usual way, is it gets tied to the computer during activation. It'll only run for a certain length of time before it must be activated, after which it disables itself. In this case the record of the machine it was installed on is at Microsoft's database. You could install the CD onto any other machine and it'd work fine, and you would run into trouble only when you went to activate it, unless you used your own keycode for the activation. As long as it was the same version of XP as yours and you use your own previous activation keycode, then all would go well. Worst case it would notice some hardware diff and a phone call would be necessary instead of being activated automatically online. And if it's an upgrade you'll still need proof of purchase of a qualifying version too.
HTH
Twayne
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