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I am posting from my PC at home which is doing fine on the internet. But on my laptop there is suddenly no internet when starting up today. Done the spyware and virus checks, but no improvement. What can I do about it? TIA
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Ben Stevenson wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I am posting from my PC at home which is doing fine on the internet. But on > my laptop there is suddenly no internet when starting up today. Done the > spyware and virus checks, but no improvement. What can I do about it? > TIA
Hard for anyone to answer without knowing if you're using dial up or broadband, connected directly to the broadband modem or through a router, Ethernet cables or wireless, any software or hardware changes, any other Mhz frequency devices like cordless phones or baby monitors in the area, any new metal furniture or new electronics near the router or laptop, results from running winipconfig or ipconfig.
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I am running broadband thru a modem and router for wireless at home. There has always been a cordless phone at home, no baby monitors, and no changes at home to anything.
"RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message news:e%23QQnsdPJHA.4776[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Ben Stevenson wrote: >> I am posting from my PC at home which is doing fine on the internet. But >> on my laptop there is suddenly no internet when starting up today. Done >> the spyware and virus checks, but no improvement. What can I do about >> it? >> TIA > > Hard for anyone to answer without knowing if you're using dial up or > broadband, connected directly to the broadband modem or through a router, > Ethernet cables or wireless, any software or hardware changes, any other > Mhz frequency devices like cordless phones or baby monitors in the area, > any new metal furniture or new electronics near the router or laptop, > results from running winipconfig or ipconfig.
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"Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23GD2K0dPJHA.4304[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I am running broadband thru a modem and router for wireless at home. There >has always been a cordless phone at home, no baby monitors, and no changes >at home to anything. > > "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message > news:e%23QQnsdPJHA.4776[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ben Stevenson wrote: >>> I am posting from my PC at home which is doing fine on the internet. But >>> on my laptop there is suddenly no internet when starting up today. >>> Done the spyware and virus checks, but no improvement. What can I do >>> about it? >>> TIA >> >> Hard for anyone to answer without knowing if you're using dial up or >> broadband, connected directly to the broadband modem or through a router, >> Ethernet cables or wireless, any software or hardware changes, any other >> Mhz frequency devices like cordless phones or baby monitors in the area, >> any new metal furniture or new electronics near the router or laptop, >> results from running winipconfig or ipconfig. > >
Restart the wireless access point. There are some makes that if there is any type of power interruption at all will cause the wireless portion of the router to shut down. If this happens at my house (Linksys WRT54G), all I have to do is unplug it for about 5 seconds and then plug it back in.
If this doesn't solve the problem post back with make and model of the WAP router.
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Ben
Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ben Stevenson wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I am running broadband thru a modem and router for wireless at home. > There has always been a cordless phone at home, no baby monitors, and > no changes at home to anything. > > "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message > news:e%23QQnsdPJHA.4776[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ben Stevenson wrote: >>> I am posting from my PC at home which is doing fine on the >>> internet. But on my laptop there is suddenly no internet when >>> starting up today. Done the spyware and virus checks, but no >>> improvement. What can I do about it? >>> TIA >> >> Hard for anyone to answer without knowing if you're using dial up or >> broadband, connected directly to the broadband modem or through a >> router, Ethernet cables or wireless, any software or hardware >> changes, any other Mhz frequency devices like cordless phones or >> baby monitors in the area, any new metal furniture or new >> electronics near the router or laptop, results from running >> winipconfig or ipconfig.
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Gerry wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ben > > Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone.
I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should he expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might be working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most people would fairly quickly notice if their phone service went dead.
The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may be indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being able to reach.
Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address and static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP may be helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support pages. Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND configuration instructions for the connected computer(s) should be in the router's user manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others with similar equipment might be in the best position to identify the necessary settings. As usual, the more information the person asking about a problem can provide the better chance respondents have in narrowing down what the cause of the problem is. Where available the cut and paste functions of Windows can be very useful for copying error messages and system reports to news/forum posts.
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I'm on broadband. No dialup. My daughter's laptop is also running well, which means the home wireless is running well. So what should I do next? Nothing has changed in the house. No new installations or changes of any kind. My PC is also fine on the internet. There's just this one laptop that is down for the internet.
"RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message news:u1pU2ThPJHA.4372[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Gerry wrote: >> Ben >> >> Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone. > > I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should he > expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might be > working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most people would > fairly quickly notice if their phone service went dead. > > The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may be > indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being able to > reach. > > Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address and > static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP may be > helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support pages. > Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND configuration > instructions for the connected computer(s) should be in the router's user > manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others with similar equipment might > be in the best position to identify the necessary settings. As usual, the > more information the person asking about a problem can provide the better > chance respondents have in narrowing down what the cause of the problem > is. Where available the cut and paste functions of Windows can be very > useful for copying error messages and system reports to news/forum posts.
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[Quoted Text] > "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message > news:u1pU2ThPJHA.4372[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Gerry wrote: >>> Ben >>> >>> Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone. >> I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should he >> expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might be >> working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most people would >> fairly quickly notice if their phone service went dead. >> >> The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may be >> indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being able to >> reach. >> >> Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address and >> static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP may be >> helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support pages. >> Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND configuration >> instructions for the connected computer(s) should be in the router's user >> manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others with similar equipment might >> be in the best position to identify the necessary settings. As usual, the >> more information the person asking about a problem can provide the better >> chance respondents have in narrowing down what the cause of the problem >> is. Where available the cut and paste functions of Windows can be very >> useful for copying error messages and system reports to news/forum posts.
Ben Stevenson wrote: > I'm on broadband. No dialup. My daughter's laptop is also running well, > which means the home wireless is running well. So what should I do next? > Nothing has changed in the house. No new installations or changes of any > kind. My PC is also fine on the internet. There's just this one laptop that > is down for the internet.
Depending on the router's Wireless Access Point (WAP) security settings the problem could be different service ID settings or password between the problem laptop and the router, a wireless network setting got changed on the problem laptop or the list of authorized WAP client computers lost the problem laptop's ID.
There's even a possibility the wireless networking components of the problem laptop have failed.
Does the problem laptop connect to other WAPs like those offered in some coffee shops, book stores, web cafes and even fast food outlets? Does it show any WAPs operated by your neighbors?
Linksys has some free informative tutorials on their web site if you need some familiarization with basic wireless networking. I suspect some other router manufacturers have similar tutorials.
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Robert
My connection is Broadband. Router and telephone connect to the same jack so your comments on dial up are not necessarily relevant.
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RobertVA wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Gerry wrote: >> Ben >> >> Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone. > > I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should he > expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might be > working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most people > would fairly quickly notice if their phone service went dead. > > The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may be > indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being able > to reach. > > Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address > and static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP may > be helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support pages. > Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND > configuration instructions for the connected computer(s) should be in > the router's user manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others with > similar equipment might be in the best position to identify the > necessary settings. As usual, the more information the person asking > about a problem can provide the better chance respondents have in > narrowing down what the cause of the problem is. Where available the > cut and paste functions of Windows can be very useful for copying > error messages and system reports to news/forum posts.
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Ben
My son-in-law encountered a problem, which I do not fully understand.
On several occasions the wireless connection to his laptop failed to work temporaily. The computer, an Acer, came with software from which it was apparent that there were two other networks nearby in addition to the one he wanted to use. His computer was either linking to one of the other networks and was unable to provide the correct passwords or was being locked out by the other computer. The point being you should check your computer to see if it is detecting another network.
Have you tried moving the laptop to different locations, restarting to see if the position of the computer makes any difference? Have you tried an ethernet cable connection?
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Hope this helps.
Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ben Stevenson wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I'm on broadband. No dialup. My daughter's laptop is also running > well, which means the home wireless is running well. So what should > I do next? Nothing has changed in the house. No new installations or > changes of any kind. My PC is also fine on the internet. There's just > this one laptop that is down for the internet. > > "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message > news:u1pU2ThPJHA.4372[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Gerry wrote: >>> Ben >>> >>> Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone. >> >> I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should >> he expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might >> be working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most >> people would fairly quickly notice if their phone service went dead. >> >> The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may be >> indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being >> able to reach. >> >> Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address >> and static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP >> may be helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support >> pages. Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND >> configuration instructions for the connected computer(s) should be >> in the router's user manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others >> with similar equipment might be in the best position to identify the >> necessary settings. As usual, the more information the person asking >> about a problem can provide the better chance respondents have in >> narrowing down what the cause of the problem is. Where available the >> cut and paste functions of Windows can be very useful for copying >> error messages and system reports to news/forum posts.
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I have restarted but there is no improvement. My PC and my daughter's laptop continue to work fine. I don't think it is a wireless problem. I think the laptop has a internet problem of its own and I hope somebody can nail that for me and offer a solution. My router is a Linksys and it isn't showing any problem in terms of its blinking lights and offering good wireless to my PC and my daughter's laptop. I do certainly feel that it is a problem with the laptop itself.
There's the icon in the Systems Tray to repair the connection, but it is unable to repair. After running thru the repair routine it says it is unable to repair and to get help.
"LVTravel" <noone[ at ]nothere.com> wrote in message news:uep403dPJHA.584[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > > "Ben Stevenson" <casiopie963[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23GD2K0dPJHA.4304[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I am running broadband thru a modem and router for wireless at home. There >>has always been a cordless phone at home, no baby monitors, and no changes >>at home to anything. >> >> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:e%23QQnsdPJHA.4776[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Ben Stevenson wrote: >>>> I am posting from my PC at home which is doing fine on the internet. >>>> But on my laptop there is suddenly no internet when starting up today. >>>> Done the spyware and virus checks, but no improvement. What can I do >>>> about it? >>>> TIA >>> >>> Hard for anyone to answer without knowing if you're using dial up or >>> broadband, connected directly to the broadband modem or through a >>> router, Ethernet cables or wireless, any software or hardware changes, >>> any other Mhz frequency devices like cordless phones or baby monitors in >>> the area, any new metal furniture or new electronics near the router or >>> laptop, results from running winipconfig or ipconfig. >> >> > > Restart the wireless access point. There are some makes that if there is > any type of power interruption at all will cause the wireless portion of > the router to shut down. If this happens at my house (Linksys WRT54G), > all I have to do is unplug it for about 5 seconds and then plug it back > in. > > If this doesn't solve the problem post back with make and model of the WAP > router. >
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Ben Stevenson wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I have restarted but there is no improvement. My PC and my daughter's > laptop continue to work fine. I don't think it is a wireless problem. I > think the laptop has a internet problem of its own and I hope somebody can > nail that for me and offer a solution. My router is a Linksys and it isn't > showing any problem in terms of its blinking lights and offering good > wireless to my PC and my daughter's laptop. I do certainly feel that it is > a problem with the laptop itself.
Looking through this long thread, I don't see where you've mentioned what antivirus you're using. If by chance you have AVG 8, a recent update to this program caused Internet connectivity to be lost. I believe the fix is to apply the latest update to AVG. If you do have AVG, then check on their support site.
Although I might have missed it, I don't see where you tried:
1. Connecting to the router by ethernet; 2. Connecting to someone else's wireless network (like a friend's).
These last troubleshooting steps will help determine if the issue is with general Internet connectivity or if your laptop's wireless adapter has failed. Just saying that you think there is nothing wrong with the wireless without testing it on another network isn't enough.
Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
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The antivirus is Avast. Cannot check for virus now as cannot receive updates due to no internet. The other two things I don't know how to do, as I am not that good on computers.
"Malke" <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:OSESi1nPJHA.576[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Ben Stevenson wrote: > >> I have restarted but there is no improvement. My PC and my daughter's >> laptop continue to work fine. I don't think it is a wireless problem. I >> think the laptop has a internet problem of its own and I hope somebody >> can >> nail that for me and offer a solution. My router is a Linksys and it >> isn't >> showing any problem in terms of its blinking lights and offering good >> wireless to my PC and my daughter's laptop. I do certainly feel that it >> is >> a problem with the laptop itself. > > Looking through this long thread, I don't see where you've mentioned what > antivirus you're using. If by chance you have AVG 8, a recent update to > this program caused Internet connectivity to be lost. I believe the fix is > to apply the latest update to AVG. If you do have AVG, then check on their > support site. > > Although I might have missed it, I don't see where you tried: > > 1. Connecting to the router by ethernet; > 2. Connecting to someone else's wireless network (like a friend's). > > These last troubleshooting steps will help determine if the issue is with > general Internet connectivity or if your laptop's wireless adapter has > failed. Just saying that you think there is nothing wrong with the > wireless > without testing it on another network isn't enough. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ>
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Brought the laptop right close to the router but no improvement.
"Have you tried an ethernet cable connection?"
I don't know how to do that and neither do I have any other cable or device.
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23wFx1YmPJHA.4152[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Ben > > My son-in-law encountered a problem, which I do not fully understand.
> > On several occasions the wireless connection to his laptop failed to work > temporaily. The computer, an Acer, came with software from which it was > apparent that there were two other networks nearby in addition to the one > he wanted to use. His computer was either linking to one of the other > networks and was unable to provide the correct passwords or was being > locked out by the other computer. The point being you should check your > computer to see if it is detecting another network. > > Have you tried moving the laptop to different locations, restarting to see > if the position of the computer makes any difference? Have you tried an > ethernet cable connection? > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ben Stevenson wrote: >> I'm on broadband. No dialup. My daughter's laptop is also running >> well, which means the home wireless is running well. So what should >> I do next? Nothing has changed in the house. No new installations or >> changes of any kind. My PC is also fine on the internet. There's just >> this one laptop that is down for the internet. >> >> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:u1pU2ThPJHA.4372[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Gerry wrote: >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone. >>> >>> I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should >>> he expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might >>> be working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most >>> people would fairly quickly notice if their phone service went dead. >>> >>> The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may be >>> indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being >>> able to reach. >>> >>> Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address >>> and static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP >>> may be helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support >>> pages. Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND >>> configuration instructions for the connected computer(s) should be >>> in the router's user manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others >>> with similar equipment might be in the best position to identify the >>> necessary settings. As usual, the more information the person asking >>> about a problem can provide the better chance respondents have in >>> narrowing down what the cause of the problem is. Where available the >>> cut and paste functions of Windows can be very useful for copying >>> error messages and system reports to news/forum posts. > >
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Ben Stevenson wrote:
[Quoted Text] > The antivirus is Avast. Cannot check for virus now as cannot receive > updates due to no internet. The other two things I don't know how to do, > as I am not that good on computers.
1. Check with an ethernet cable: Look at your wireless router. There is a cable (ethernet) running from:
a. One ethernet cable going to your cable/DSL modem; b. One ethernet cable going to your desktop computer.
Unplug the cable going to your desktop computer from the computer. Leave it connected to the router. Now plug that ethernet cable into the correct port on your laptop. There is only one place it will fit. Now, can you get to the Internet? Open Internet Explorer and see.
If you can get to the Internet, you will know that the issue is with your laptop's wireless. If you can't get to the Internet, something is wrong on the laptop.
2. Check the wireless adapter - Take the laptop to a friend's house where the friend has a wireless router. Your laptop should show that new wireless connection. Have the friend connect you to his/her network.
If the laptop doesn't see the friend's wireless connection:
a. Check to make sure the wireless is ON. Quite a few laptops have a button or switch to enable/disable the wireles.
b. If wireless is on, check in Control Panel>System>Hardware>Device Manager to make sure the wireless network adapter is enabled.
At this point you really need to enlist the help of someone who knows how to troubleshoot and set up a wireless connection. This could be the aforementioned friend or relation or a professional computer repair person. No one reading your posts can set up your wireless or test your router from here. I don't recommend using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
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Ben
What is your router make and model?
Ethernet cabling is inexpensive and readily available from any computer repair shop. An ethernet connection is arguably better than wireless and both are better than USB. The advantage of wireless is where the location of the two ends of the cable are on opposite sides of an open area and you do not want to run a cable across it. Make sure you know the length of the cable you need before you go to buy it as it comes in a various standard lengths.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable
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Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ben Stevenson wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Brought the laptop right close to the router but no improvement. > > "Have you tried an ethernet cable connection?" > > I don't know how to do that and neither do I have any other cable or > device. > > "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23wFx1YmPJHA.4152[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Ben >> >> My son-in-law encountered a problem, which I do not fully understand. > > >> >> On several occasions the wireless connection to his laptop failed to >> work temporaily. The computer, an Acer, came with software from >> which it was apparent that there were two other networks nearby in >> addition to the one he wanted to use. His computer was either >> linking to one of the other networks and was unable to provide the >> correct passwords or was being locked out by the other computer. The >> point being you should check your computer to see if it is detecting >> another network. Have you tried moving the laptop to different >> locations, restarting >> to see if the position of the computer makes any difference? Have >> you tried an ethernet cable connection? >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Ben Stevenson wrote: >>> I'm on broadband. No dialup. My daughter's laptop is also running >>> well, which means the home wireless is running well. So what should >>> I do next? Nothing has changed in the house. No new installations or >>> changes of any kind. My PC is also fine on the internet. There's >>> just this one laptop that is down for the internet. >>> >>> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail[ at ]invalid.com> wrote in message >>> news:u1pU2ThPJHA.4372[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Gerry wrote: >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> Connect a phone to the jack point and see if you get a dial tone. >>>> >>>> I doubt he's attaching that router to a dial up "modem". Why should >>>> he expect a dial tone? Even on DSL the telephone capabilities might >>>> be working when the DSL Internet capabilities aren't. Also most >>>> people would fairly quickly notice if their phone service went >>>> dead. The results of "ipconfig /all" in a command prompt window may >>>> be >>>> indicative of how far up the chain his computer is actually being >>>> able to reach. >>>> >>>> Comparison of the router's settings (things like DNS server address >>>> and static vs dynamic IP address) to those recommended by the ISP >>>> may be helpful. Check the provider's web site for customer support >>>> pages. Directions for checking or changing the router settings AND >>>> configuration instructions for the connected computer(s) should be >>>> in the router's user manual (sometimes on an included CD). Others >>>> with similar equipment might be in the best position to identify >>>> the necessary settings. As usual, the more information the person >>>> asking about a problem can provide the better chance respondents >>>> have in narrowing down what the cause of the problem is. Where >>>> available the cut and paste functions of Windows can be very >>>> useful for copying error messages and system reports to news/forum >>>> posts.
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"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote in message news:uIqn7r3PJHA.1908[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Ben > > What is your router make and model? > > Ethernet cabling is inexpensive and readily available from any computer > repair shop. An ethernet connection is arguably better than wireless and > both are better than USB. The advantage of wireless is where the location > of the two ends of the cable are on opposite sides of an open area and you > do not want to run a cable across it. Make sure you know the length of the > cable you need before you go to buy it as it comes in a various standard > lengths. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable> > -- Just to add, Ben - check the box the router came in. They usually come with a short-ish ethernet cable, which would do for your testing purposes.
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