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As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some mistakes
causing me to start over. The second installation went fine and the machine
is runnin great. The only problem, really just an iritation, is when it
boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering me two Vistas to choose from.
Fortunately, the first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and
boot without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot
option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.
From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has a new
boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be used. Can I
use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?
TIA
Ed
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You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download
VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro and
click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second versions entry
from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use command lines to edit
BCDedit.
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John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
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kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
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"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some
> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine and
> the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an iritation,
> is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering me two Vistas to
> choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be the good one so it
> will go ahead and boot without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid
> of the second boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory.
>
> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has a new
> boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be used. Can
> I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista?
>
> TIA
>
> Ed
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Thanks, John. That worked.
Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP Pro is
added as a second boot option on a machine that already has Vista Ultimate
installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and have read
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an unnecessarily
awkward procedure.
Ed
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download > VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro and > click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second versions entry > from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use command lines to > edit BCDedit. > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Windows XP Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of > the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine and >> the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an iritation, >> is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering me two Vistas >> to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be the good one so it >> will go ahead and boot without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid >> of the second boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >> >> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has a >> new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be used. >> Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >> >> TIA >> >> Ed >
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Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If you
want to install XP then this link from my website will help:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm
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John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
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"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Thanks, John. That worked. > > Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP Pro > is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has Vista > Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and have read > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an unnecessarily > awkward procedure. > > Ed > > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro and >> click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second versions entry >> from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use command lines to >> edit BCDedit. >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Windows XP Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine and >>> the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an iritation, >>> is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering me two Vistas >>> to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be the good one so >>> it will go ahead and boot without intervention. However, I'd like to get >>> rid of the second boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 >>> directory. >>> >>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has a >>> new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be >>> used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> Ed >> > |
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Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free space
can I install Xp on it instead of on C:?
Ed
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If you > want to install XP then this link from my website will help: > http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm> > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Windows XP Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of > the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Thanks, John. That worked. >> >> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP Pro >> is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has Vista >> Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and have read >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an >> unnecessarily awkward procedure. >> >> Ed >> >> >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro and >>> click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second versions >>> entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use command >>> lines to edit BCDedit. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> John Barnett MVP >>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>> Windows Desktop Experience >>> >>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>> >>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>> any >>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >>> for >>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >>> the >>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>> mail/post.. >>> >>> >>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine >>>> and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an >>>> iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering me >>>> two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be the >>>> good one so it will go ahead and boot without intervention. However, >>>> I'd like to get rid of the second boot option, and also delete the >>>> windows.old.000 directory. >>>> >>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has a >>>> new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be >>>> used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Ed >>> >>
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Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard
drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using
virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite expensive,
but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows me to run both
operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need 2GB or more of memory
to run both. Again, for more information, see this link from my website:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm
The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the same.
I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 doesn't,
although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB.
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John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..
"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free > space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? > > Ed > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If you >> want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Windows XP Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>> >>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP Pro >>> is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has Vista >>> Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and have read >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an >>> unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second versions >>>> entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use command >>>> lines to edit BCDedit. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Barnett MVP >>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>> >>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>> >>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>> any >>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>> liable for >>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>> of the >>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>> mail/post.. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine >>>>> and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an >>>>> iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering >>>>> me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be >>>>> the good one so it will go ahead and boot without intervention. >>>>> However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot option, and also >>>>> delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>> >>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has a >>>>> new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be >>>>> used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>> >>> > |
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John,
Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than
Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it I
used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new simple
partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation CD and
installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format it. When
it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD. However, it
would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR.
The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove the
XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the files etc.
However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through the
installation process again from the beginning.
To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a
Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run
VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP.
Any ideas on where to go from here?
Ed
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard > drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using > virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite > expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows me > to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need 2GB or > more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this link > from my website: > > http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm> > The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the > same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 > doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. > > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Windows XP Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of > the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >> >> Ed >> >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> John Barnett MVP >>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>> Windows Desktop Experience >>> >>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>> >>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>> any >>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >>> for >>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >>> the >>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>> mail/post.. >>> >>> >>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>> >>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and have >>>> read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an >>>> unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second >>>>> versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use >>>>> command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>> >>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>> >>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>> any >>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>> accuracy, >>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>> liable for >>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>> of the >>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>>> mail/post.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine >>>>>> and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an >>>>>> iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering >>>>>> me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be >>>>>> the good one so it will go ahead and boot without intervention. >>>>>> However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot option, and also >>>>>> delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>> >>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has >>>>>> a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can be >>>>>> used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>> >>
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When you install an operating system and the system needs to reboot a
message comes up on screen saying 'press any key to boot from CD (or DVD).'
You only do this once, that is when you first start the installation. The
second time around you ignore the 'press any key' and let windows continue.
If you press any key on the second reboot then, yes, the operating system,
will start installing all over again. If you ignore the 'press any key' then
the installation continues. The only time you take the CD out of the drive
is when installation has completely finished; at which time you should see
the XP desktop on your screen.
In VistaBootPro on the 'manage OS entries' tab have you tried 'adding' the
operating system? Have you also checked the drive you installed XP to to see
if there is actually operating system files on it?
I've just installed the pre-beta release of Windows 7 on a separate
partition and that installed went without issue.
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John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..
"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > John, > > Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than > Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it I > used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new simple > partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation CD and > installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format it. > When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD. > However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the > XP MBR. > > The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove the > XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the files > etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through the > installation process again from the beginning. > > To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a > Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run > VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. > > > Any ideas on where to go from here? > > Ed > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows me >> to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need 2GB or >> more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this link >> from my website: >> >> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>> >> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Windows XP Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Barnett MVP >>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>> >>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>> >>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>> any >>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>> liable for >>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>> of the >>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>> mail/post.. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>> >>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an >>>>> unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second >>>>>> versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use >>>>>> command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>> >>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>> >>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>>> any >>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>> liable for >>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>>> of the >>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>> this >>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine >>>>>>> and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an >>>>>>> iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering >>>>>>> me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be >>>>>>> the good one so it will go ahead and boot without intervention. >>>>>>> However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot option, and also >>>>>>> delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has >>>>>>> a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can >>>>>>> be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > |
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It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have a
BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you may
find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then reconnect
Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting the key
designated on the bottom of your POST screen.
"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > John, > > Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than > Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it I > used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new simple > partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation CD and > installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format it. > When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD. > However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the > XP MBR. > > The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove the > XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the files > etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through the > installation process again from the beginning. > > To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a > Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run > VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. > > > Any ideas on where to go from here? > > Ed > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows me >> to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need 2GB or >> more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this link >> from my website: >> >> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>> >> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Windows XP Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Barnett MVP >>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>> >>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>> >>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>> any >>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>> liable for >>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>> of the >>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>> mail/post.. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>> >>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like an >>>>> unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second >>>>>> versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to use >>>>>> command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>> >>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>> >>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>>> any >>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>> liable for >>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>>> of the >>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>> this >>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went fine >>>>>>> and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just an >>>>>>> iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen offering >>>>>>> me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one seems to be >>>>>>> the good one so it will go ahead and boot without intervention. >>>>>>> However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot option, and also >>>>>>> delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista has >>>>>>> a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that can >>>>>>> be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >
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Thanks, John.
Adding the OS in VistaBootPro didn't work. To see what was actually in the
new partition I had to assigh it a drive letter. Once I did that I saw a
Windows directory structure with what looks like all the normal stuff.
I went through the process again, and allowed the XP installer to reformat
the new partition for a fresh start. After the formatting and copying of
files etc it said "the computer will now reboot. Please remove disk from A:"
Having no dirve A I did nothing. It did a bit more work, then put up the
message saying to hit any key to boot from CD. I did nothing, and after 4-5
dots had been displayed a few odd characters in different collors appeared
on the screen and then hung up. Once again I had to use the Vista
installation to repair the Vista boot record.
I should have mentioned this earlier but the installation disks I am using
(both XP and Vista) are not the retail versions. They are provided by my
university for installation on faculty home computers under the campus
license agreement with Microsoft. The worked just fine for installation on
bare machines, but maybe they have some feature that's different from retail
disks.
I think I'll try putting the XP partition on disk 0 just ot get closer to
the procedure you describe in your instructions.
Ed
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:uw%23FEkrOJHA.3748[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > When you install an operating system and the system needs to reboot a > message comes up on screen saying 'press any key to boot from CD (or > DVD).' You only do this once, that is when you first start the > installation. The second time around you ignore the 'press any key' and > let windows continue. If you press any key on the second reboot then, yes, > the operating system, will start installing all over again. If you ignore > the 'press any key' then the installation continues. The only time you > take the CD out of the drive is when installation has completely finished; > at which time you should see the XP desktop on your screen. > > In VistaBootPro on the 'manage OS entries' tab have you tried 'adding' the > operating system? Have you also checked the drive you installed XP to to > see if there is actually operating system files on it? > > I've just installed the pre-beta release of Windows 7 on a separate > partition and that installed went without issue. > > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Windows XP Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of > the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com... >> John, >> >> Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than >> Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it >> I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new >> simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation >> CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format >> it. When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD. >> However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the >> XP MBR. >> >> The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove >> the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the >> files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through >> the installation process again from the beginning. >> >> To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a >> Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run >> VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. >> >> >> Any ideas on where to go from here? >> >> Ed >> >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >>> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >>> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >>> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows >>> me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need >>> 2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this >>> link from my website: >>> >>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>>> >>> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >>> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >>> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> John Barnett MVP >>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>> Windows Desktop Experience >>> >>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>> >>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>> any >>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >>> for >>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >>> the >>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>> mail/post.. >>> >>> >>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>> >>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>> >>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>> any >>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>> accuracy, >>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>> liable for >>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>> of the >>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>>> mail/post.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like >>>>>> an unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>>>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second >>>>>>> versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to >>>>>>> use command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty >>>>>>> of any >>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>>> liable for >>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising >>>>>>> out of the >>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went >>>>>>>> fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just >>>>>>>> an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen >>>>>>>> offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one >>>>>>>> seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot without >>>>>>>> intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot >>>>>>>> option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista >>>>>>>> has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that >>>>>>>> can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>
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Thanks, John.
Yes, I'm really feeling foolish for not having put XP on first. Since I
built the the machine from the ground up it would have been easier. It was
afterwards that I decided I wanted to get rid of my old box rather than
using it for XP work.
So with you plan there would be a boot sector on both drives?
Ed
"John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have > a BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you may > find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then > reconnect Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting > the key designated on the bottom of your POST screen. > > "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com... >> John, >> >> Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than >> Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it >> I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new >> simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation >> CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format >> it. When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD. >> However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the >> XP MBR. >> >> The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove >> the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the >> files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through >> the installation process again from the beginning. >> >> To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a >> Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run >> VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. >> >> >> Any ideas on where to go from here? >> >> Ed >> >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >>> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >>> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >>> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows >>> me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need >>> 2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this >>> link from my website: >>> >>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>>> >>> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >>> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >>> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> John Barnett MVP >>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>> Windows Desktop Experience >>> >>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>> >>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>> any >>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >>> for >>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >>> the >>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>> mail/post.. >>> >>> >>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>> >>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>> >>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>> any >>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>> accuracy, >>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>> liable for >>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>> of the >>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>>> mail/post.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like >>>>>> an unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>>>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second >>>>>>> versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to >>>>>>> use command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty >>>>>>> of any >>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>>> liable for >>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising >>>>>>> out of the >>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went >>>>>>>> fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just >>>>>>>> an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen >>>>>>>> offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one >>>>>>>> seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot without >>>>>>>> intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot >>>>>>>> option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista >>>>>>>> has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that >>>>>>>> can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >
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It's working! Here's what I did.
You will recall that it would not boot up from the HD after time-out of the
"Press any key to boot from CD" message during installation of XP. To get
something on the screen again I booted from the Vista installation DVD and
selected Repair to Vista, selecting the Startup option therein. This
allowed Vista to boot off the HD. There was no 2nd boot option offered.
Once Vista booted I opened the Disk manager and changed the partion on which
I had installed XP to Active.
Then I ran VistaBootPro and did Diagnostics. That resulted in an "earlier
version of Windows" to appear on the Manage OS Entries dialog. I changed the
name to "XP Pro" and clicked Apply.
Then I rebooted, and got the boot menue offering Vista or XP Pro. I selected
Xp Pro. It then booted from the HD and asked me to put the XP installation
CD back in. It then went on to finish loading all the other stuff for XP and
the other initial setup stuff. It worked!
I really don't know if it was setting the partion Active, running
diagnostic, or both that did the trick.
Only problem now is the XP installation process didn't identify some of my
hardware, such as the onboard network interface. I'll have to work on that,
perhaps digging out some installation CDs or whatever. Then comes loading my
software that doesn't work well with Vista.... bigger job I expect.
Thanks for all the help.
Ed
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:uw%23FEkrOJHA.3748[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > When you install an operating system and the system needs to reboot a > message comes up on screen saying 'press any key to boot from CD (or > DVD).' You only do this once, that is when you first start the > installation. The second time around you ignore the 'press any key' and > let windows continue. If you press any key on the second reboot then, yes, > the operating system, will start installing all over again. If you ignore > the 'press any key' then the installation continues. The only time you > take the CD out of the drive is when installation has completely finished; > at which time you should see the XP desktop on your screen. > > In VistaBootPro on the 'manage OS entries' tab have you tried 'adding' the > operating system? Have you also checked the drive you installed XP to to > see if there is actually operating system files on it? > > I've just installed the pre-beta release of Windows 7 on a separate > partition and that installed went without issue. > > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Windows XP Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com> > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of > the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com... >> John, >> >> Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than >> Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it >> I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new >> simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro installation >> CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the installer to format >> it. When it got to the point where it needed to reboot, I removed the CD. >> However, it would not boot from the HD. Apparently, it could not find the >> XP MBR. >> >> The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove >> the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the >> files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go through >> the installation process again from the beginning. >> >> To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a >> Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run >> VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. >> >> >> Any ideas on where to go from here? >> >> Ed >> >> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >>> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >>> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >>> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows >>> me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need >>> 2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see this >>> link from my website: >>> >>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>>> >>> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >>> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >>> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> John Barnett MVP >>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>> Windows Desktop Experience >>> >>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>> >>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>> any >>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >>> for >>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >>> the >>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>> mail/post.. >>> >>> >>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>> >>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>> >>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>> any >>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>> accuracy, >>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>> liable for >>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>> of the >>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>>> mail/post.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like >>>>>> an unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run VistaBootPro >>>>>>> and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove the second >>>>>>> versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats having to >>>>>>> use command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty >>>>>>> of any >>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>>> liable for >>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising >>>>>>> out of the >>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went >>>>>>>> fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really just >>>>>>>> an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot screen >>>>>>>> offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the first one >>>>>>>> seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot without >>>>>>>> intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second boot >>>>>>>> option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista >>>>>>>> has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that >>>>>>>> can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>
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Hi Ed,
I'm glad you got it working. Actually setting the partition to 'active' did
the trick:-)
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience
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"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:6D4D41FA-0F69-4832-9DDD-42FC0DEC1F73[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > It's working! Here's what I did. > > You will recall that it would not boot up from the HD after time-out of > the "Press any key to boot from CD" message during installation of XP. To > get something on the screen again I booted from the Vista installation DVD > and selected Repair to Vista, selecting the Startup option therein. This > allowed Vista to boot off the HD. There was no 2nd boot option offered. > > Once Vista booted I opened the Disk manager and changed the partion on > which I had installed XP to Active. > > Then I ran VistaBootPro and did Diagnostics. That resulted in an "earlier > version of Windows" to appear on the Manage OS Entries dialog. I changed > the name to "XP Pro" and clicked Apply. > > Then I rebooted, and got the boot menue offering Vista or XP Pro. I > selected Xp Pro. It then booted from the HD and asked me to put the XP > installation CD back in. It then went on to finish loading all the other > stuff for XP and the other initial setup stuff. It worked! > > I really don't know if it was setting the partion Active, running > diagnostic, or both that did the trick. > > Only problem now is the XP installation process didn't identify some of my > hardware, such as the onboard network interface. I'll have to work on > that, perhaps digging out some installation CDs or whatever. Then comes > loading my software that doesn't work well with Vista.... bigger job I > expect. > > Thanks for all the help. > > Ed > > > > > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:uw%23FEkrOJHA.3748[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> When you install an operating system and the system needs to reboot a >> message comes up on screen saying 'press any key to boot from CD (or >> DVD).' You only do this once, that is when you first start the >> installation. The second time around you ignore the 'press any key' and >> let windows continue. If you press any key on the second reboot then, >> yes, the operating system, will start installing all over again. If you >> ignore the 'press any key' then the installation continues. The only time >> you take the CD out of the drive is when installation has completely >> finished; at which time you should see the XP desktop on your screen. >> >> In VistaBootPro on the 'manage OS entries' tab have you tried 'adding' >> the operating system? Have you also checked the drive you installed XP to >> to see if there is actually operating system files on it? >> >> I've just installed the pre-beta release of Windows 7 on a separate >> partition and that installed went without issue. >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Windows XP Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> John, >>> >>> Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than >>> Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it >>> I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new >>> simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro >>> installation CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the >>> installer to format it. When it got to the point where it needed to >>> reboot, I removed the CD. However, it would not boot from the HD. >>> Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR. >>> >>> The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove >>> the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the >>> files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go >>> through the installation process again from the beginning. >>> >>> To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a >>> Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run >>> VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. >>> >>> >>> Any ideas on where to go from here? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >>>> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >>>> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >>>> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows >>>> me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need >>>> 2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see >>>> this link from my website: >>>> >>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>>>> >>>> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >>>> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >>>> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Barnett MVP >>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>> >>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>> >>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>> any >>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>> liable for >>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>> of the >>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>> mail/post.. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>>>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>> >>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>> >>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>>> any >>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>> liable for >>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>>> of the >>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>> this >>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like >>>>>>> an unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run >>>>>>>> VistaBootPro and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove >>>>>>>> the second versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats >>>>>>>> having to use command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty >>>>>>>> of any >>>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>>>> liable for >>>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising >>>>>>>> out of the >>>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went >>>>>>>>> fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really >>>>>>>>> just an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot >>>>>>>>> screen offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the >>>>>>>>> first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot >>>>>>>>> without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second >>>>>>>>> boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista >>>>>>>>> has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that >>>>>>>>> can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > |
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Yes. There would be a boot sector on both the XP and Vista drives.
"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:83AA4439-1C2C-4542-B1E5-1E6370A392F1[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Thanks, John. > > Yes, I'm really feeling foolish for not having put XP on first. Since I > built the the machine from the ground up it would have been easier. It was > afterwards that I decided I wanted to get rid of my old box rather than > using it for XP work. > > So with you plan there would be a boot sector on both drives? > > Ed > > "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message > news:O4R$f3rOJHA.1576[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have >> a BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you >> may find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then >> reconnect Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting >> the key designated on the bottom of your POST screen. >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> John, >>> >>> Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than >>> Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it >>> I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new >>> simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro >>> installation CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the >>> installer to format it. When it got to the point where it needed to >>> reboot, I removed the CD. However, it would not boot from the HD. >>> Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR. >>> >>> The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove >>> the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the >>> files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go >>> through the installation process again from the beginning. >>> >>> To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a >>> Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run >>> VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. >>> >>> >>> Any ideas on where to go from here? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >>>> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >>>> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >>>> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows >>>> me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need >>>> 2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see >>>> this link from my website: >>>> >>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>>>> >>>> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >>>> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >>>> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Barnett MVP >>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>> >>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>> >>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>> any >>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>> liable for >>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>> of the >>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>> mail/post.. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>>>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>> >>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>> >>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>>> any >>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>> liable for >>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>>> of the >>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>> this >>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like >>>>>>> an unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run >>>>>>>> VistaBootPro and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove >>>>>>>> the second versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats >>>>>>>> having to use command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty >>>>>>>> of any >>>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>>>> liable for >>>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising >>>>>>>> out of the >>>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went >>>>>>>>> fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really >>>>>>>>> just an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot >>>>>>>>> screen offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the >>>>>>>>> first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot >>>>>>>>> without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second >>>>>>>>> boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista >>>>>>>>> has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that >>>>>>>>> can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
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The additional advantage of this method is you have two bootable drives and
systems. If the boot drive fails when installed with only only one bootable
drive, nothing works. This way you can boot into the other system to assist
with repairs. You can still use startup repair in Vista to give you the
Vista boot menu.
"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:83AA4439-1C2C-4542-B1E5-1E6370A392F1[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Thanks, John. > > Yes, I'm really feeling foolish for not having put XP on first. Since I > built the the machine from the ground up it would have been easier. It was > afterwards that I decided I wanted to get rid of my old box rather than > using it for XP work. > > So with you plan there would be a boot sector on both drives? > > Ed > > "John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> wrote in message > news:O4R$f3rOJHA.1576[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> It is always messy when you install the older system second. If you have >> a BIOS that lets you select which drive to boot from at POST time, you >> may find it easiest to disconnect the Vista drive, install XP and then >> reconnect Vista. You can then select the drive to boot from by hitting >> the key designated on the bottom of your POST screen. >> >> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:A11A9797-0258-4B61-A46B-5076A217C36C[ at ]microsoft.com... >>> John, >>> >>> Ran into a problem. My goal was to install XP Pro on Drive 1 rather than >>> Drive 0. Since Drive 1 was already formattted as D: with some data on it >>> I used the Vista Disk manager to shrink D: by 40Gb and create a new >>> simple partition, unformatted. I then booted from the Xp Pro >>> installation CD and installed XP into that partition, allowing the >>> installer to format it. When it got to the point where it needed to >>> reboot, I removed the CD. However, it would not boot from the HD. >>> Apparently, it could not find the XP MBR. >>> >>> The only thing I can think of that I may have done wrong was to remove >>> the XP installation CD when it wanted to reboot after copying all the >>> files etc. However, if I leave it in I assume it would want to go >>> through the installation process again from the beginning. >>> >>> To recover I booted from the Vista Ultimate installation DVD and did a >>> Startup repair. There was no damage to anything. However, when I run >>> VistaBootPro it shows only Vista... no XP. >>> >>> >>> Any ideas on where to go from here? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:%2368h%23DfOJHA.3580[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Yes, Ed. Just make sure you point the installation to your second hard >>>> drive. As I rarely use XP nowadays I have actually installed mine using >>>> virtual machine software (I use VMware Workstation which is quite >>>> expensive, but Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is free) This actually allows >>>> me to run both operating systems at the same time. Obviously you need >>>> 2GB or more of memory to run both. Again, for more information, see >>>> this link from my website: >>>> >>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/creating_a_virtual_machine_with_vmware.htm>>>> >>>> The link refers to VMware Workstation but most VM's are basically the >>>> same. I use VMware because it supports USB; Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 >>>> doesn't, although there are a couple of free VMs that do support USB. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Barnett MVP >>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>> >>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>> >>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>> any >>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>> liable for >>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>> of the >>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >>>> mail/post.. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>> news:72C842BA-CBE0-42C4-AFE4-A2A93F935276[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>> Great! That's really neat. Since I have a second HD D: with more free >>>>> space can I install Xp on it instead of on C:? >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:u1CVoIeOJHA.4256[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ed there is an option to add the Vista bootloader in VistaBootPro. If >>>>>> you want to install XP then this link from my website will help: >>>>>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>> >>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>> >>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of >>>>>> any >>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>> liable for >>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >>>>>> of the >>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>> this >>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:54A56564-021F-48C0-BDB7-EE486D7F4F83[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>> Thanks, John. That worked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can VistaBootPro also be used to fix the problem that arises when XP >>>>>>> Pro is added as a second boot option on a machine that already has >>>>>>> Vista Ultimate installed? I've been thinking about doing that, and >>>>>>> have read http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529, but it seems like >>>>>>> an unnecessarily awkward procedure. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:%23R930%23UOJHA.1144[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> You can do but BCDedit isn't very user friendly. Instead download >>>>>>>> VistaBootPro (free) and install it to your machine. Run >>>>>>>> VistaBootPro and click on the Manage OS tab. You can then remove >>>>>>>> the second versions entry from there. VistaBootPro certainly beats >>>>>>>> having to use command lines to edit BCDedit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> John Barnett MVP >>>>>>>> Windows XP Associate Expert >>>>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org>>>>>>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty >>>>>>>> of any >>>>>>>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the >>>>>>>> accuracy, >>>>>>>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be >>>>>>>> liable for >>>>>>>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising >>>>>>>> out of the >>>>>>>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> mail/post.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:43D72773-A9F0-4201-A7F1-7B74BC707357[ at ]microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>> As I was stumbling around installing Vista Ultimate 32 I made some >>>>>>>>> mistakes causing me to start over. The second installation went >>>>>>>>> fine and the machine is runnin great. The only problem, really >>>>>>>>> just an iritation, is when it boots up there is a multi-boot >>>>>>>>> screen offering me two Vistas to choose from. Fortunately, the >>>>>>>>> first one seems to be the good one so it will go ahead and boot >>>>>>>>> without intervention. However, I'd like to get rid of the second >>>>>>>>> boot option, and also delete the windows.old.000 directory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From some investigation I've done on multiboot I know that Vista >>>>>>>>> has a new boot sequence and there is an editor called BCDEdit that >>>>>>>>> can be used. Can I use this tool to get rid of the 2nd Vista? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
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