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Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
cajun_mike 12/30/2008 12:58:01 AM
I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which could
resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't. In the
meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses were imported, all
emails and folders were imported and all contact information was imported
into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my system. I
would like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail client.

Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail, etc., from
the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP, Thunderbird 2 and
would be happy to run the latest version of OE.

Thank you very much!

Mike
Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam[ at ]mymail.invalid> 12/30/2008 2:02:48 AM
"cajun_mike" <cajun_mike[ at ] qwest(DONOTSPAM).net> wrote in message
news:FDDD06D8-2B03-4B36-91A7-ECAF81CAA7CD[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which could
> resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't. In the
> meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses were imported,
> all
> emails and folders were imported and all contact information was imported
> into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my system.
> I
> would like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail client.
>
> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail, etc.,
> from
> the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP, Thunderbird 2 and
> would be happy to run the latest version of OE.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Mike

[Crossposted to OE General]

You already have Outlook Express. If you are fully patched, you have the
latest version.

Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Add/Remove Windows Components. Make
sure Outlook Express is checked.

Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs | Set Program Access and Defaults |
Custom + Down Arrow | Select the radio button for Outlook Express.

Make OE the default e-mail client:
http://www.oehelp.com/oedef.aspx

For links in e-mail:
http://www.oehelp.com/oelnk.aspx

And:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306098

Restores OE to the E-mail clients list in Internet Options
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_desc/oe_client.htm

If you have MS Outlook installed, also see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13

How to Export Mail from Thunderbird to Outlook Express and Other Email
Programs:
http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_export_to_oe.htm

How to Import Mail from Outlook Express in Mozilla Thunderbird:
http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et122305.htm

Import Mozilla messages to Outlook Express:
http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/th2outlook.php
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA



Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
Kayman <kayhkay-nospam-[ at ]operamail.com> 12/30/2008 5:56:10 AM
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which could
> resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't. In the
> meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses were imported, all
> emails and folders were imported and all contact information was imported
> into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my system. I
> would like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail client.
>
> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail, etc., from
> the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP, Thunderbird 2 and
> would be happy to run the latest version of OE.

You may wish to try:
Windows Live Mail
Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of Outlook
Express, plus more.
http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/30/2008 10:16:11 AM
Kayman

I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express. It has
some improvements and some features not as good. The only significant
improvement is the change to the way messages are stored. However, if
you have learned how to handle compacting then in my view Outllok
Express is better.

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kayman wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>
>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which
>> could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't.
>> In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses
>> were imported, all emails and folders were imported and all contact
>> information was imported into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no
>> longer seems to exist on my system. I would like to go back to
>> Outlook Express for a mail client.
>>
>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP,
>> Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version of OE.
>
> You may wish to try:
> Windows Live Mail
> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of Outlook
> Express, plus more.
> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
Kayman <kayhkay-nospam-[ at ]operamail.com> 12/30/2008 1:48:40 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, Gerry wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Kayman
>
> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express. It has
> some improvements and some features not as good. The only significant
> improvement is the change to the way messages are stored. However, if
> you have learned how to handle compacting then in my view Outllok
> Express is better.

I was referring to Windows *Live* Mail and not Windows Mail.
So long Outlook Express!
Introducing Windows Live Mail
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-us/help/4b30d3d6-abe2-46d1-a5fd-4a1ba786a1381033.mspx
Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/30/2008 3:27:49 PM
Kayman

Yes I missed the distinction.

Not sure this sentiment appeals "So long Outlook Express!" For me
anything that integrates with "Messenger" has a dubious claim to fame!

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kayman wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, Gerry wrote:
>
>> Kayman
>>
>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express. It
>> has some improvements and some features not as good. The only
>> significant improvement is the change to the way messages are
>> stored. However, if you have learned how to handle compacting then
>> in my view Outllok Express is better.
>
> I was referring to Windows *Live* Mail and not Windows Mail.
> So long Outlook Express!
> Introducing Windows Live Mail
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-us/help/4b30d3d6-abe2-46d1-a5fd-4a1ba786a1381033.mspx


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> 12/30/2008 4:14:17 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Kayman
>
> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.


In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a new
name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous amount
of confusion between the two very different programs, Outlook and
Outlook Express.

However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to. Microsoft,
having largely eliminated the confusion between their giving Outlook
and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced confusion by
giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar names.



> It has
> some improvements and some features not as good. The only significant
> improvement is the change to the way messages are stored. However, if
> you have learned how to handle compacting then in my view Outllok
> Express is better.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kayman wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
> >
> >> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which
> >> could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't.
> >> In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses
> >> were imported, all emails and folders were imported and all contact
> >> information was imported into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no
> >> longer seems to exist on my system. I would like to go back to
> >> Outlook Express for a mail client.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
> >> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP,
> >> Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version of OE.
> >
> > You may wish to try:
> > Windows Live Mail
> > Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of Outlook
> > Express, plus more.
> > http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/30/2008 4:54:29 PM
Thanks Ken.

We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change. However,
most users would not see the difference because it's under the bonnet.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Kayman
>>
>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
>
>
> In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
> version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a new
> name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous amount
> of confusion between the two very different programs, Outlook and
> Outlook Express.
>
> However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
> Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to. Microsoft,
> having largely eliminated the confusion between their giving Outlook
> and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced confusion by
> giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar names.
>
>
>
>> It has
>> some improvements and some features not as good. The only significant
>> improvement is the change to the way messages are stored. However, if
>> you have learned how to handle compacting then in my view Outllok
>> Express is better.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Kayman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which
>>>> could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't.
>>>> In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses
>>>> were imported, all emails and folders were imported and all contact
>>>> information was imported into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no
>>>> longer seems to exist on my system. I would like to go back to
>>>> Outlook Express for a mail client.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
>>>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP,
>>>> Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version of OE.
>>>
>>> You may wish to try:
>>> Windows Live Mail
>>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
>>> Outlook Express, plus more.
>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
Leonard Grey <l.grey[ at ]invalid.invalid> 12/30/2008 5:05:26 PM
"...most users would not see the difference because it's under the bonnet."

I always enjoy your quaint British expressions, Gerry. Here in the
Colonies we would say the difference is "below the radar".
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Gerry wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks Ken.
>
> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change. However,
> most users would not see the difference because it's under the bonnet.
>
>
Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> 12/30/2008 5:41:00 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:54:29 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Thanks Ken.
>
> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change. However,
> most users would not see the difference because it's under the bonnet.



Yes, and besides there's nothing particularly unusual about having a
major change in a new version of any program.


> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Kayman
> >>
> >> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
> >
> >
> > In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
> > version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a new
> > name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous amount
> > of confusion between the two very different programs, Outlook and
> > Outlook Express.
> >
> > However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
> > Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to. Microsoft,
> > having largely eliminated the confusion between their giving Outlook
> > and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced confusion by
> > giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar names.
> >
> >
> >
> >> It has
> >> some improvements and some features not as good. The only significant
> >> improvement is the change to the way messages are stored. However, if
> >> you have learned how to handle compacting then in my view Outllok
> >> Express is better.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Kayman wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which
> >>>> could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't.
> >>>> In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses
> >>>> were imported, all emails and folders were imported and all contact
> >>>> information was imported into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no
> >>>> longer seems to exist on my system. I would like to go back to
> >>>> Outlook Express for a mail client.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
> >>>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP,
> >>>> Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version of OE.
> >>>
> >>> You may wish to try:
> >>> Windows Live Mail
> >>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
> >>> Outlook Express, plus more.
> >>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/30/2008 6:14:13 PM
Leonard

Bonnet predates radar. Radar only came into it's own in 1940 and it was
Top Secret at the time.
http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/car-bonnet.html

I nearly said under the hood but was then unsure what it meant over the
water. Language can so often trip you up.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Leonard Grey wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> "...most users would not see the difference because it's under the
> bonnet."
> I always enjoy your quaint British expressions, Gerry. Here in the
> Colonies we would say the difference is "below the radar".
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> Gerry wrote:
>> Thanks Ken.
>>
>> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
>> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change.
>> However, most users would not see the difference because it's under
>> the bonnet.


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/30/2008 6:20:31 PM
Ken

The engine is a fundamental component!

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:54:29 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ken.
>>
>> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
>> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change.
>> However, most users would not see the difference because it's under
>> the bonnet.
>
>
>
> Yes, and besides there's nothing particularly unusual about having a
> major change in a new version of any program.
>
>
>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kayman
>>>>
>>>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
>>> version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a
>>> new name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous
>>> amount of confusion between the two very different programs,
>>> Outlook and Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
>>> Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to.
>>> Microsoft, having largely eliminated the confusion between their
>>> giving Outlook and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced
>>> confusion by giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar
>>> names.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It has
>>>> some improvements and some features not as good. The only
>>>> significant improvement is the change to the way messages are
>>>> stored. However, if you have learned how to handle compacting then
>>>> in my view Outllok Express is better.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Kayman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software
>>>>>> which could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out
>>>>>> it can't. In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of
>>>>>> my addresses were imported, all emails and folders were imported
>>>>>> and all contact information was imported into Thunderbird.
>>>>>> Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my system. I would
>>>>>> like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
>>>>>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running
>>>>>> XP, Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version
>>>>>> of OE.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may wish to try:
>>>>> Windows Live Mail
>>>>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
>>>>> Outlook Express, plus more.
>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here[ at ]earthlink.net> 12/30/2008 6:58:15 PM
What IS the underlying difference in storing messages in Windows Mail VS
Outlook Express? Like it doesn't use a separate dbx file for each folder,
or what? Does Windows Mail also have a newsreader built in like OE does?

(I'm using WinXP and OE, so I don't know).

Gerry wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks Ken.
>
> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change. However,
> most users would not see the difference because it's under the bonnet.
>
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kayman
>>>
>>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
>>
>>
>> In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
>> version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a new
>> name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous amount
>> of confusion between the two very different programs, Outlook and
>> Outlook Express.
>>
>> However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
>> Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to. Microsoft,
>> having largely eliminated the confusion between their giving Outlook
>> and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced confusion by
>> giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar names.
>>
>>
>>
>>> It has
>>> some improvements and some features not as good. The only significant
>>> improvement is the change to the way messages are stored. However, if
>>> you have learned how to handle compacting then in my view Outllok
>>> Express is better.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Kayman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software which
>>>>> could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out it can't.
>>>>> In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of my addresses
>>>>> were imported, all emails and folders were imported and all contact
>>>>> information was imported into Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no
>>>>> longer seems to exist on my system. I would like to go back to
>>>>> Outlook Express for a mail client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
>>>>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running XP,
>>>>> Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version of OE.
>>>>
>>>> You may wish to try:
>>>> Windows Live Mail
>>>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
>>>> Outlook Express, plus more.
>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/30/2008 8:54:06 PM
Bill

Mail messages are now stored in individual files instead of in a single
database file. A transactional index database based on the Extensible
Storage Engine enables real-time searching and improves the stability
and the reliability of the stored data. In case of corruption, the
indices can be rebuilt from the mail files.
Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/windows-mail

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill in Co. wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> What IS the underlying difference in storing messages in Windows Mail
> VS Outlook Express? Like it doesn't use a separate dbx file for
> each folder, or what? Does Windows Mail also have a newsreader
> built in like OE does?
> (I'm using WinXP and OE, so I don't know).
>
> Gerry wrote:
>> Thanks Ken.
>>
>> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
>> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change.
>> However, most users would not see the difference because it's under
>> the bonnet. --
>> Regards.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Kayman
>>>>
>>>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
>>> version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a
>>> new name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous
>>> amount of confusion between the two very different programs,
>>> Outlook and Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
>>> Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to.
>>> Microsoft, having largely eliminated the confusion between their
>>> giving Outlook and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced
>>> confusion by giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar
>>> names.
>>>> It has
>>>> some improvements and some features not as good. The only
>>>> significant improvement is the change to the way messages are
>>>> stored. However, if you have learned how to handle compacting then
>>>> in my view Outllok Express is better.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Kayman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software
>>>>>> which could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out
>>>>>> it can't. In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of
>>>>>> my addresses were imported, all emails and folders were imported
>>>>>> and all contact information was imported into Thunderbird.
>>>>>> Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my system. I would
>>>>>> like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
>>>>>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running
>>>>>> XP, Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version
>>>>>> of OE.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may wish to try:
>>>>> Windows Live Mail
>>>>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
>>>>> Outlook Express, plus more.
>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here[ at ]earthlink.net> 12/30/2008 10:46:49 PM
Thanks for the link Gerry. It sounds promising, in several ways.

But I'm not sure I like the idea of every single mail message being stored
in its own separate file, though, as that's sure a lot of files on the HD to
keep track of (for those so inclined :-). But it probably does lend
itself better to data recovery in the event of a disaster, as suggested.

Gerry wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Bill
>
> Mail messages are now stored in individual files instead of in a single
> database file. A transactional index database based on the Extensible
> Storage Engine enables real-time searching and improves the stability
> and the reliability of the stored data. In case of corruption, the
> indices can be rebuilt from the mail files.
> Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/windows-mail
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> What IS the underlying difference in storing messages in Windows Mail
>> VS Outlook Express? Like it doesn't use a separate dbx file for
>> each folder, or what? Does Windows Mail also have a newsreader
>> built in like OE does?
>> (I'm using WinXP and OE, so I don't know).
>>
>> Gerry wrote:
>>> Thanks Ken.
>>>
>>> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
>>> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change.
>>> However, most users would not see the difference because it's under
>>> the bonnet. --
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Kayman
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the latest
>>>> version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they gave it a
>>>> new name. That was a good move because there has been an enormous
>>>> amount of confusion between the two very different programs,
>>>> Outlook and Outlook Express.
>>>>
>>>> However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program, Windows
>>>> Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring to.
>>>> Microsoft, having largely eliminated the confusion between their
>>>> giving Outlook and Outlook Express such similar names, reintroduced
>>>> confusion by giving Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail similar
>>>> names.
>>>>> It has
>>>>> some improvements and some features not as good. The only
>>>>> significant improvement is the change to the way messages are
>>>>> stored. However, if you have learned how to handle compacting then
>>>>> in my view Outllok Express is better.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>> FCA
>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> Kayman wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software
>>>>>>> which could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out
>>>>>>> it can't. In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of
>>>>>>> my addresses were imported, all emails and folders were imported
>>>>>>> and all contact information was imported into Thunderbird.
>>>>>>> Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my system. I would
>>>>>>> like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import all mail,
>>>>>>> etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm running
>>>>>>> XP, Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest version
>>>>>>> of OE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may wish to try:
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail
>>>>>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
>>>>>> Outlook Express, plus more.
>>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


Re: Rebuilding OE from Thunderbird
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> 12/31/2008 12:01:37 AM
Bill

You're welcome.


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bill in Co. wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Thanks for the link Gerry. It sounds promising, in several ways.
>
> But I'm not sure I like the idea of every single mail message being
> stored in its own separate file, though, as that's sure a lot of
> files on the HD to keep track of (for those so inclined :-). But
> it probably does lend itself better to data recovery in the event of
> a disaster, as suggested.
> Gerry wrote:
>> Bill
>>
>> Mail messages are now stored in individual files instead of in a
>> single database file. A transactional index database based on the
>> Extensible Storage Engine enables real-time searching and improves
>> the stability and the reliability of the stored data. In case of
>> corruption, the indices can be rebuilt from the mail files.
>> Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/windows-mail
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>> What IS the underlying difference in storing messages in Windows
>>> Mail VS Outlook Express? Like it doesn't use a separate dbx file
>>> for each folder, or what? Does Windows Mail also have a
>>> newsreader built in like OE does?
>>> (I'm using WinXP and OE, so I don't know).
>>>
>>> Gerry wrote:
>>>> Thanks Ken.
>>>>
>>>> We sorted that out earlier. The method of storing messages is
>>>> fundamentally different in Windows Mail. It was a major change.
>>>> However, most users would not see the difference because it's under
>>>> the bonnet. --
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:16:11 -0000, "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Kayman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried Windows Mail. It's very much the same as Outlook Express.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my view, Windows Mail *is* Outlook Express. It's just the
>>>>> latest version of it; rather than giving it a new number, they
>>>>> gave it a new name. That was a good move because there has been
>>>>> an enormous amount of confusion between the two very different
>>>>> programs, Outlook and Outlook Express.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, Microsoft also introduced a new different program,
>>>>> Windows Live Mail. That's the program that Kayman was referring
>>>>> to. Microsoft, having largely eliminated the confusion between
>>>>> their giving Outlook and Outlook Express such similar names,
>>>>> reintroduced confusion by giving Windows Mail and Windows Live
>>>>> Mail similar names.
>>>>>> It has
>>>>>> some improvements and some features not as good. The only
>>>>>> significant improvement is the change to the way messages are
>>>>>> stored. However, if you have learned how to handle compacting
>>>>>> then in my view Outllok Express is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>> FCA
>>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> Kayman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:58:01 -0800, cajun_mike wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought Thunderbird was a real whiz-bang piece of software
>>>>>>>> which could resolve some OE-type issues for me and it turns out
>>>>>>>> it can't. In the meantime, when I installed Thunderbird all of
>>>>>>>> my addresses were imported, all emails and folders were
>>>>>>>> imported and all contact information was imported into
>>>>>>>> Thunderbird. Furthermore, OE no longer seems to exist on my
>>>>>>>> system. I would like to go back to Outlook Express for a mail
>>>>>>>> client. Is there a way to re-install Outlook Express and import
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> mail, etc., from the Thunderbird program on my computer? I'm
>>>>>>>> running XP, Thunderbird 2 and would be happy to run the latest
>>>>>>>> version of OE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may wish to try:
>>>>>>> Windows Live Mail
>>>>>>> Microsoft's free e-mail program, with the familiar features of
>>>>>>> Outlook Express, plus more.
>>>>>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


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