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Virus Removal
James <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> 12/20/2008 12:44:04 AM
Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?

James
Re: Virus Removal
Malke <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> 12/20/2008 12:52:37 AM
James wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?

Yes.

Malke
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Re: Virus Removal
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 12/20/2008 1:22:05 AM

"James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>
> James


Sometimes it's so bad
the machine has to be formatted and re-loaded.



Re: Virus Removal
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> 12/20/2008 1:55:32 AM
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800 (PST), James <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com>
wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?


Definitely. Viruses are designed to do damage. If one has enough time
to do its stuff before someone tries to remove it, the result of the
damage will be that it is unremovable.

Your goal should be to stop *getting* infected by a virus, not just to
remove it after getting infected.

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Re: Virus Removal
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall[ at ]remove_mvps.com> 12/20/2008 2:10:35 AM
"Malke" <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> James wrote:
>
>> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>


Yes, and very disheartening having spent considerable time and effort trying
to preserve an installation..

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Re: Virus Removal
"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM[ at ]myrealboxXYZ.invalid> 12/20/2008 3:50:59 AM
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8759a77c-c54b-449c-b9f2-f2fa09bc464a[ at ]q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>>
>> James
>
>
> Sometimes it's so bad
> the machine has to be formatted and re-loaded.

That would mean the repair shop successfully removed the virus. ;-)


Re: Virus Removal
"Xandros" <arron.neus*remove*[ at ]gmail.com> 12/20/2008 4:25:16 AM
I've encountered CMOS viruses that have flashed the BIOS rendering the
motherboard inoperable.

--

Xandros


"James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>
> James


Re: Virus Removal
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 12/20/2008 9:38:33 AM

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM[ at ]myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message
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> "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:OxqMcDkYJHA.2124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
news:8759a77c-c54b-449c-b9f2-f2fa09bc464a[ at ]q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> >> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
> >>
> >> James
> >
> >
> > Sometimes it's so bad
> > the machine has to be formatted and re-loaded.
>
> That would mean the repair shop successfully removed the virus. ;-)
>
>

LOL

Good point there!


Re: Virus Removal
"xxxxx" <xxxxx[ at ]googlemail.com> 12/20/2008 9:48:27 AM

"Xandros" <arron.neus*remove*[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> I've encountered CMOS viruses that have flashed the BIOS rendering the
> motherboard inoperable.


There is one that stops your fan from working, making your PC over heat, and
completely burn out. So if you ever don't hear the whining the PC usually
makes. Panic.........


Re: Virus Removal
"Olórin" <incanus[ at ]erkljrjre890aeraekj4na.com> 12/22/2008 10:50:07 AM
"James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>
> James

In your earlier thread "How can I get rid of a virus" you asked, "How can I
get rid of a virus on a computer without taking it to the repair shop or
downloading anything."

Then, "How do computer repair shops remove a virus?"

Now this.
I'd repeat my earlier response: What exactly is the problem you are trying
to solve, and in what ways has it not been addressed by earlier responses to
your original question?

Or are you just wanting to hang around here nattering about viruses?


Re: Virus Removal
"Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> 12/22/2008 10:46:59 PM
[Quoted Text]
> I've encountered CMOS viruses that have flashed the BIOS rendering the
> motherboard inoperable.

No kidding? Got any references or virus names at all? I can't find
anything yet on Google or Yanoo and I'd like to know more about it.

>
>
> "James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8759a77c-c54b-449c-b9f2-f2fa09bc464a[ at ]q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>>
>> James



Re: Virus Removal
"Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> 12/22/2008 10:48:21 PM
[Quoted Text]
> "James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8759a77c-c54b-449c-b9f2-f2fa09bc464a[ at ]q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>>
>> James
>
> In your earlier thread "How can I get rid of a virus" you asked, "How
> can I get rid of a virus on a computer without taking it to the
> repair shop or downloading anything."
>
> Then, "How do computer repair shops remove a virus?"
>
> Now this.
> I'd repeat my earlier response: What exactly is the problem you are
> trying to solve, and in what ways has it not been addressed by
> earlier responses to your original question?
>
> Or are you just wanting to hang around here nattering about viruses?

Probably doing a paper of some kind, or just a troll of sorts. I vote
some kind of troll from the absence of any kind of supporting
explanation.


Re: Virus Removal
"Patrick Keenan" <test[ at ]dev.null> 12/23/2008 5:30:29 AM
"James" <jamo1937[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8759a77c-c54b-449c-b9f2-f2fa09bc464a[ at ]q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Is there any virus a computer repair shop cannot remove?
>
> James

Ultimately, the answer is no, because sometimes the shortest route to a
clean system is a clean re-install, and the formatting that this starts from
will remove anything.

The tricks are, being able to recognise when that is the prudent course
(somewhat akin to knowing when to stop putting money into a car) and, how to
avoid re-infecting the system from the backups.

-pk



Re: Virus Removal
"Jeff" <jeffs[ at ]NoSpamLamSam.com> 12/23/2008 2:56:40 PM
sounds like an urban ledged to me...this might have happened 10 years ago to
an Intel processor or 5 for an AMD, but today both CPU's have over rides
that will shut down the processor when overheating is sensed.

Jeff


"xxxxx" <xxxxx[ at ]googlemail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> "Xandros" <arron.neus*remove*[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ep5g6rlYJHA.3808[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I've encountered CMOS viruses that have flashed the BIOS rendering the
>> motherboard inoperable.
>
>
> There is one that stops your fan from working, making your PC over heat,
> and completely burn out. So if you ever don't hear the whining the PC
> usually makes. Panic.........
>
>


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