Need to understand permission and ownership Luis Ortega <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> 10/13/2008 5:24:12 PM I am completely lost on trying to understand the process of accessing my folders and files on vista. I am the only user and have only one administrator account with my name. There are also some other folders such as: all users, default, default user and public in my users folder in the c drive. What I want to do is simply have access to all of the folders and files on my computer. How does one go about this? Where do you start? Do I begin with my own named folder, the c drive, the users folder on the c drive??? What do I do? When choosing whether to select ownership, should I be selecting the administrator option or the users option from the list? Both include my named account. I am so incredibly confused with this. XP was never like this. I realize that this is probably too complicated to explain in a response, so is there anywhere that I can read that explains it clearly? The vista help files are so fragmented and confusing that they are useless. I don't even know what to look for in the index. Is there some web site or book that will help me to understand this bizarre feature in vista? Is it too much to ask that I can access files on my own computer without being denied? Thanks a lot for any advice.

Re: Need to understand permission and ownership "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch[ at ]nospamgmail.com> 10/13/2008 5:42:53 PM How to Take Ownership and Grant Permissions in Windows Vista http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/05/25/how-to-take-ownership-and-grant-permissions-in-windows-vista/ Add Take Ownership Option To Files and Folders Context Menu in Vista http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/11/03/add-take-ownership-option-to-files-and-folders-context-menu-in-vista/ -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:0vLIk.10863$0t2.1329[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... I am completely lost on trying to understand the process of accessing my folders and files on vista. I am the only user and have only one administrator account with my name. There are also some other folders such as: all users, default, default user and public in my users folder in the c drive. What I want to do is simply have access to all of the folders and files on my computer. How does one go about this? Where do you start? Do I begin with my own named folder, the c drive, the users folder on the c drive??? What do I do? When choosing whether to select ownership, should I be selecting the administrator option or the users option from the list? Both include my named account. I am so incredibly confused with this. XP was never like this. I realize that this is probably too complicated to explain in a response, so is there anywhere that I can read that explains it clearly? The vista help files are so fragmented and confusing that they are useless. I don't even know what to look for in the index. Is there some web site or book that will help me to understand this bizarre feature in vista? Is it too much to ask that I can access files on my own computer without being denied? Thanks a lot for any advice.

Re: Need to understand permission and ownership Malke <malke[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/13/2008 7:35:42 PM Luis Ortega wrote: (snip multipost) Please do not multipost like this. I gave you a lengthy answer to this question in the microsoft.windows.vista.general newsgroup. If you have questions about my reply, please post in that thread as I won't be monitoring this one. For future reference, here is why multiposting will generally get you *less* help than crossposting judiciously: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

Re: Need to understand permission and ownership "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold[ at ]Arnold.com> 10/13/2008 8:27:36 PM "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:LtLIk.10862$0t2.4254[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... What I want to do is simply have access to all of the folders and files on my computer. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa382530(VS.85).aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa382503.aspx

Re: Need to understand permission and ownership "Adam Leinss" <aleinss[ at ]hotmail.com> 10/13/2008 9:02:15 PM [Quoted Text] > Is it too much to ask that I can access files on my own computer without > being denied? If you have UAC (User Acccount Control) turned on, certain protected OS folders such as C:\windows will have TrustedInstaller as the owner. If you want to go back to XP style of security, you need to turn off UAC. Turning off UAC will make your PC less secure. HTH, Adam

Re: Need to understand permission and ownership "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold[ at ]Arnold.com> 10/14/2008 1:32:17 AM "Adam Leinss" <aleinss[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:rHOIk.22238$ZW7.14958[ at ]fe10.news.easynews.com... [Quoted Text] >> Is it too much to ask that I can access files on my own computer without >> being denied? > > If you have UAC (User Acccount Control) turned on, certain protected OS > folders such as C:\windows will have TrustedInstaller as the owner. If > you want to go back to XP style of security, you need to turn off UAC. > Turning off UAC will make your PC less secure. > In the link is what protects the O/S, and it doesn't matter if UAC is turned off. The user-admin account that Vista gives one or any new user/admin accounts that may have been created do not have the power to take ownership of folders and files that are protected by WRP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Resource_Protection