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Hi,
I installed SP3 successfully on my old computer that has 1 working drive.
However, on my new Dell XPS 410 computer I'm running RAID 0 and SP3
blue-screened -- both in Normal Mode and in Safe Mode. I had to do a Repair
Install of SP2 to get my computer up then reinstall IE7 to get online (IE6
wouldn't work after that).
Any ideas? Dell support has not clue why this is happening. I'm really
worried Microsoft might force SP3 onto my machine again at some point and
override my Automatic Updates settings like they did with SP2 (thankfully
that worked out ok).
[NOTE: Also, please -- whoever recommended that I reformat my HD last time I
posted something -- please do not respond to this note. I was not, did not
and am not going to do that. Thanks in advance.]
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Without the contents of the BSOD it is pretty hard for us to know what
is going on, let alone even try to give you any advice.
John
GettingByOk wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi,
>
> I installed SP3 successfully on my old computer that has 1 working drive.
>
> However, on my new Dell XPS 410 computer I'm running RAID 0 and SP3
> blue-screened -- both in Normal Mode and in Safe Mode. I had to do a Repair
> Install of SP2 to get my computer up then reinstall IE7 to get online (IE6
> wouldn't work after that).
>
> Any ideas? Dell support has not clue why this is happening. I'm really
> worried Microsoft might force SP3 onto my machine again at some point and
> override my Automatic Updates settings like they did with SP2 (thankfully
> that worked out ok).
>
> [NOTE: Also, please -- whoever recommended that I reformat my HD last time I
> posted something -- please do not respond to this note. I was not, did not
> and am not going to do that. Thanks in advance.]
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[Quoted Text] > ...on my new Dell XPS 410 computer I'm running RAID 0 and SP3
> blue-screened
You got a BSOD immediately after having installed WinXP SP3 on this machine,
or the new machine came with WinXP SP3 preinstalled and you started getting
BSODs?
Is this machine-in-question now running WinXP SP2?
After you did the Repair Install, in what way was IE6 "not working"?
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running
in the background when you installed SP3 and/or IE7?
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine?
Last but not least, what STOP error(s) is/are being seen when you get the
BSODs?
ABOUT WIN XP SP3 & AUTOMATIC UPDATES (AU):
• No matter how you have AU configured, SP3 will NOT install without your
approval.
• If you select AU's "Notify Only" settings, SP3 will not even download (let
alone install) without your approval; cf.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
ADDITIONAL WINXP SP3 REFERENCES:
• Error message after you upgrade a computer that uses a processor other
than an Intel processor to Windows XP Service Pack 2 or to Windows XP
Service Pack 3: "STOP: 0x0000007E":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953356
• How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718
• WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
• Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3) and only until 14 Apr-09.
(Chat and e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.)
Go to http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
"Windows XP" then select "Windows XP Service Pack 3"
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
GettingByOk wrote:
<snip>
> However, on my new Dell XPS 410 computer I'm running RAID 0 and SP3
> blue-screened -- both in Normal Mode and in Safe Mode. I had to do a
> Repair
> Install of SP2 to get my computer up then reinstall IE7 to get online (IE6
> wouldn't work after that).
>
> Any ideas? Dell support has not clue why this is happening. I'm really
> worried Microsoft might force SP3 onto my machine again at some point and
> override my Automatic Updates settings like they did with SP2 (thankfully
> that worked out ok).
>
> [NOTE: Also, please -- whoever recommended that I reformat my HD last time
> I
> posted something -- please do not respond to this note. I was not, did not
> and am not going to do that. Thanks in advance.]
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Why is it you're the ONLY one stating this problem? Millions have installed
SP3 without problems.
Are we to believe you?
"BigPecs8" <Bigpecs8[ at ]kissmybutt.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4959c9f4$0$11331$9a6e19ea[ at ]unlimited.newshosting.com...
[Quoted Text] > DO NOT under any circumstances INSTALL WinXP SP3 without first checking
> and
> making certain that all of your computer's components are SP3 certified.
>
> Particularly, DO NOT INSTALL if you have any Intel components as they are
> choosing NOT to get their drivers SP3 certified.
>
> And, last but not least, determining whether or not your motherboard or
> network adapter drivers are SP3 compliant is nearly impossible.
>
> Installing or using already installed non-compliant drivers will make
> certain catastrophic computer failure.
>
> The problem has arisen since 17Dec2008 when MS issued security update
> KB960714. Unfortunately, it exacerbated bad or faulty network adapter
> drivers issued by Intel that are NON SP3 compliant. Additionally, Intel
> will not be making available SP3 compliant drivers on many of their
> products. To aggravate the situation, Intel has remained mute on this
> subject and has issued absolutely no warnings or notices.
>
> You have been warned!
>
> Big
>
> --
> "Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll
> still
> be crazy"
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What the...??? Sources, please?
WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx
Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3) and only until 14 Apr-09.
(Chat and e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.)
Go to http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
"Windows XP" then select "Windows XP Service Pack 3"
PS: Stop hijacking other people's threads!
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
BigPecs8 wrote:
[Quoted Text] > DO NOT under any circumstances INSTALL WinXP SP3 without first checking
> and
> making certain that all of your computer's components are SP3 certified.
>
> Particularly, DO NOT INSTALL if you have any Intel components as they are
> choosing NOT to get their drivers SP3 certified.
>
> And, last but not least, determining whether or not your motherboard or
> network adapter drivers are SP3 compliant is nearly impossible.
>
> Installing or using already installed non-compliant drivers will make
> certain catastrophic computer failure.
>
> The problem has arisen since 17Dec2008 when MS issued security update
> KB960714. Unfortunately, it exacerbated bad or faulty network adapter
> drivers issued by Intel that are NON SP3 compliant. Additionally, Intel
> will not be making available SP3 compliant drivers on many of their
> products. To aggravate the situation, Intel has remained mute on this
> subject and has issued absolutely no warnings or notices.
>
> You have been warned!
>
> Big
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For those too dim-witted to read and comprehend, the problem does and has
existed for quite some time.
With security Update KB960714, the previous flaws in ethernet/network
drivers w/OS WinXP SP3 became more pronounced and, in a cascading effect,
has caused computers to enter the dreaded "Boot Loop". The response from
MicroSoft is drivers MAY NOT be SP3 compatible particularly if hardware
manufacturers did not choose to have them tested by MicroSoft.
This MS Security Update was released 17Dec08, updated 18Dec08. Take days
off for Christmas, weekends and it's easy to see that this KB960714 hasn't
quite made the circuit, been installed and pointed out failures. Give it
time.
Quoting MicroSoft "The network adapter drivers available in Intel's
Pro100/1000 .... software are NOT COMPATIBLE with WinXP SP3." Or would you
prefer someone tatoo that on your forehead?
But these aren't NEW drivers. Some of these Intel drivers go back to 2004.
So backwards engineering will not work!
But don't believe me. Telephone Intel Tech Support and ask them if their
network/ethernet adapter drivers are XP SP3 compatible. Phone number
available on their website.
Their response is a lulu. "We have never stated that our drivers were SP3
compliant." And they won't admit they aren't either. Their respone is so
politically correct to be a true non-response.
Big
--
"Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll still
be crazy"
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Sources?
At present, there exist no "sources" but an "absence" of sources.
Intel's response is very clever. They aren't stating that their drivers are
or are not WinXP SP3 compliant. What they are saying is that they have
never said anything! Clever.
MicroSoft has flatly stated that network drivers from applicable Intel
software "have not been certified and are, at present, incompatible with
SP3." They also dodge the issue by saying "we've never claimed that they
were compatible."
"It all depends on what your definition of 'is' is."
Big
--
"Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll still
be crazy"
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You are correct---you're drunk.
"BigPecs8" <Bigpecs8[ at ]kissmybutt.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:495a5ea7$0$13964$9a6e19ea[ at ]unlimited.newshosting.com...
[Quoted Text] > Sources?
>
> At present, there exist no "sources" but an "absence" of sources.
>
> Intel's response is very clever. They aren't stating that their drivers
> are
> or are not WinXP SP3 compliant. What they are saying is that they have
> never said anything! Clever.
>
> MicroSoft has flatly stated that network drivers from applicable Intel
> software "have not been certified and are, at present, incompatible with
> SP3." They also dodge the issue by saying "we've never claimed that they
> were compatible."
>
> "It all depends on what your definition of 'is' is."
>
> Big
>
> --
> "Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll
> still
> be crazy"
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How many times have I told you not to run with scissors?
Big
--
"Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll still
be crazy"
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Still no sources cited.
BigPecs8 wrote:
[Quoted Text] > For those too dim-witted to read and comprehend, the problem does and has
> existed for quite some time.
>
> With security Update KB960714, the previous flaws in ethernet/network
> drivers w/OS WinXP SP3 became more pronounced and, in a cascading effect,
> has caused computers to enter the dreaded "Boot Loop". The response from
> MicroSoft is drivers MAY NOT be SP3 compatible particularly if hardware
> manufacturers did not choose to have them tested by MicroSoft.
>
> This MS Security Update was released 17Dec08, updated 18Dec08. Take days
> off for Christmas, weekends and it's easy to see that this KB960714 hasn't
> quite made the circuit, been installed and pointed out failures. Give it
> time.
>
> Quoting MicroSoft "The network adapter drivers available in Intel's
> Pro100/1000 .... software are NOT COMPATIBLE with WinXP SP3." Or would
> you
> prefer someone tatoo that on your forehead?
>
> But these aren't NEW drivers. Some of these Intel drivers go back to
> 2004.
> So backwards engineering will not work!
>
> But don't believe me. Telephone Intel Tech Support and ask them if their
> network/ethernet adapter drivers are XP SP3 compatible. Phone number
> available on their website.
>
> Their response is a lulu. "We have never stated that our drivers were SP3
> compliant." And they won't admit they aren't either. Their respone is so
> politically correct to be a true non-response.
>
> Big
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[In your case, please do run with scissors, preferable pointed at your
head.]
BigPecs8 wrote:
[Quoted Text] > How many times have I told you not to run with scissors?
>
> Big
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You never have. Why would you? Oh yeah, I remember----you're drunk.
"BigPecs8" <Bigpecs8[ at ]kissmybutt.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:495a634d$0$13984$9a6e19ea[ at ]unlimited.newshosting.com...
[Quoted Text] > How many times have I told you not to run with scissors?
>
> Big
>
> --
> "Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll
> still
> be crazy"
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Are you going to post links to your sources?
"BigPecs8" <Bigpecs8[ at ]kissmybutt.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:495a5b8c$0$13993$9a6e19ea[ at ]unlimited.newshosting.com...
: For those too dim-witted to read and comprehend, the problem does and has
: existed for quite some time.
:
: With security Update KB960714, the previous flaws in ethernet/network
: drivers w/OS WinXP SP3 became more pronounced and, in a cascading effect,
: has caused computers to enter the dreaded "Boot Loop". The response from
: MicroSoft is drivers MAY NOT be SP3 compatible particularly if hardware
: manufacturers did not choose to have them tested by MicroSoft.
:
: This MS Security Update was released 17Dec08, updated 18Dec08. Take days
: off for Christmas, weekends and it's easy to see that this KB960714 hasn't
: quite made the circuit, been installed and pointed out failures. Give it
: time.
:
: Quoting MicroSoft "The network adapter drivers available in Intel's
: Pro100/1000 .... software are NOT COMPATIBLE with WinXP SP3." Or would
you
: prefer someone tatoo that on your forehead?
:
: But these aren't NEW drivers. Some of these Intel drivers go back to
2004.
: So backwards engineering will not work!
:
: But don't believe me. Telephone Intel Tech Support and ask them if their
: network/ethernet adapter drivers are XP SP3 compatible. Phone number
: available on their website.
:
: Their response is a lulu. "We have never stated that our drivers were SP3
: compliant." And they won't admit they aren't either. Their respone is so
: politically correct to be a true non-response.
:
: Big
:
: --
: "Yeah, I'm drunk and you're crazy. Tomorrow I'll be sober but you'll
still
: be crazy"
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The few SP3 problems are details on the MS site, along with how to work
around them. Your diatribe is just that; silly and a sour grapes
attitude.
I've never beein in a boot-loop. And I don't dread it.
They only "may not ... " becuase they didn't pay MS their "fees" to
declare it so. Nearly all non-MS ware is in that same situation.
The 17 Dec update distribution HAS been completed. I have in
installed here.
I use Intel's Pro 100 hw/sw. NO problems, EVER, with it. Drivers being
"SP3 compatible" is simply a pay-scheme for MS to make money. It is
compatible.
Distributing computers do not recognize weekends, holidays, etc., and
even users as a rule don't by more than a day or so.
Backwards engineering is irrelevant; it works well on several
machines Iv'e seen. Have not yet seen one it didn't work on.
Intel's
[Quoted Text] > Pro100/1000 .... software are NOT COMPATIBLE with WinXP SP3." :
Wherever you got that from you need to recheck it or relegate them to
a never-visit. Or learn to quote properly.
Telephone support often "writes off" simpletons who call them; that's
not just Intel. I can just imagine your conversational style.
You are totally and completely wrong. If you followed the MS
instructions for installing SP3, which includes having a problem free
machine, SP3 with two exceptions that MS provides workarounds for, will
work perfectly first time every time.
Dont' let the door hit you on the ass ...
> For those too dim-witted to read and comprehend, the problem does and
> has existed for quite some time.
>
> With security Update KB960714, the previous flaws in ethernet/network
> drivers w/OS WinXP SP3 became more pronounced and, in a cascading
> effect, has caused computers to enter the dreaded "Boot Loop". The
> response from MicroSoft is drivers MAY NOT be SP3 compatible
> particularly if hardware manufacturers did not choose to have them
> tested by MicroSoft.
>
> This MS Security Update was released 17Dec08, updated 18Dec08. Take
> days off for Christmas, weekends and it's easy to see that this
> KB960714 hasn't quite made the circuit, been installed and pointed
> out failures. Give it time.
>
> Quoting MicroSoft "The network adapter drivers available in Intel's
> Pro100/1000 .... software are NOT COMPATIBLE with WinXP SP3." Or
> would you prefer someone tatoo that on your forehead?
>
> But these aren't NEW drivers. Some of these Intel drivers go back to
> 2004. So backwards engineering will not work!
>
> But don't believe me. Telephone Intel Tech Support and ask them if
> their network/ethernet adapter drivers are XP SP3 compatible. Phone
> number available on their website.
>
> Their response is a lulu. "We have never stated that our drivers
> were SP3 compliant." And they won't admit they aren't either. Their
> respone is so politically correct to be a true non-response.
>
> Big
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