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This post is presented to show the errors of the closed minded who are saying that all registry cleaners are snake oil, never do anything useful, and/or should never under any circumstance be used. In defense of such misinformation, I give you the following enlightenment:
Excerpt of article found at: http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967
Windows XP Registry Cleaner Can Improve Your PCs Performance If you are wondering why your computer?s performance has been unstable these past few days, you might want to run a compatible registry cleaner for your system. Cleaning up your computer?s registry can make your system perform its best and likewise, extend its life span. Doing this does not require a great deal of technical knowledge because registry cleaners are very easy to use.
Before delving deeper into the topic of registry cleaners, it is important for you to know what exactly the registry is and why cleaning it will optimize your computer?s performance. The registry is the place where the operating system of your computer stores all types of information regarding the settings of your software and other vital system settings. It is one of the most critical components to the full functionality of your computer, which is why when something goes wrong in your registry; the overall performance of the computer suffers.
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Full Article at:
http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967
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Twayne wrote:
More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the difference between objective unbiased information and advertising material?
John
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More boring twaddle
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Twayne wrote:
[Quoted Text] > This post is presented to show the errors of the closed minded who are > saying that all registry cleaners are snake oil, never do anything > useful, and/or should never under any circumstance be used. In > defense of such misinformation, I give you the following > enlightenment: > Excerpt of article found at: > http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967> > Windows XP Registry Cleaner Can Improve Your PCs Performance > If you are wondering why your computer?s performance has been unstable > these past few days, you might want to run a compatible registry > cleaner for your system. Cleaning up your computer?s registry can > make your system perform its best and likewise, extend its life span. > Doing this does not require a great deal of technical knowledge > because registry cleaners are very easy to use. > > Before delving deeper into the topic of registry cleaners, it is > important for you to know what exactly the registry is and why > cleaning it will optimize your computer?s performance. The registry > is the place where the operating system of your computer stores all > types of information regarding the settings of your software and > other vital system settings. It is one of the most critical > components to the full functionality of your computer, which is why > when something goes wrong in your registry; the overall performance > of the computer suffers. > ... > > Full Article at: > > http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967
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Another who buries head in sand rather than learn anything useful.
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[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: > > More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the > difference between objective unbiased information and advertising > material? > John
From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you simply call spam.
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If you want to be constructive, you should do something to disprove the misinformation spready by the closed minds here about registry maintenance software. Just saying something does not make it so.
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[Quoted Text] > More boring twaddle
Well, when a thinking person encounters something boring, he usually moves on to the next post. This was clearly addressed to a segment of hte population and if you don't consider yourself to be part of that, why would you bother with a useless post such as this? Think for yourself, man.
> > > > Twayne wrote: >> This post is presented to show the errors of the closed minded who >> are saying that all registry cleaners are snake oil, never do >> anything useful, and/or should never under any circumstance be used. >> In defense of such misinformation, I give you the following >> enlightenment: >> Excerpt of article found at: >> http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967 >> >> Windows XP Registry Cleaner Can Improve Your PCs Performance >> If you are wondering why your computer?s performance has been >> unstable these past few days, you might want to run a compatible >> registry cleaner for your system. Cleaning up your computer?s >> registry can make your system perform its best and likewise, extend >> its life span. Doing this does not require a great deal of technical >> knowledge because registry cleaners are very easy to use. >> >> Before delving deeper into the topic of registry cleaners, it is >> important for you to know what exactly the registry is and why >> cleaning it will optimize your computer?s performance. The registry >> is the place where the operating system of your computer stores all >> types of information regarding the settings of your software and >> other vital system settings. It is one of the most critical >> components to the full functionality of your computer, which is why >> when something goes wrong in your registry; the overall performance >> of the computer suffers. >> ... >> >> Full Article at: >> >> http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967
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I have been the victim of registry cleaners over the years - and it took me years to learn my lesson.
If you'll look at the link that was provided - I have difficulty taking seriously any page that advertises sexual performance improvers alongside of it's registry cleaner article.
But, being adventurous, I ventured on to the link for the reviews that was provided in the article. On that page I noted many references to clickbank - and none to Microsoft (who made RegClean and used to distribute it for free). Then I click on the RegClean Review link and am directed to a link that claims a money back guarantee in 8 weeks! The "review" is joke, it doesn't contain any useful information.
This is (IMO) nothing but a scam that's trying to play on peoples need for a quick fix.
- John
"Twayne" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > > More boring twaddle > > Well, when a thinking person encounters something boring, he usually > moves on to the next post. This was clearly addressed to a segment of > hte population and if you don't consider yourself to be part of that, > why would you bother with a useless post such as this? Think for > yourself, man. > > > > > > > > > Twayne wrote: > >> This post is presented to show the errors of the closed minded who > >> are saying that all registry cleaners are snake oil, never do > >> anything useful, and/or should never under any circumstance be used. > >> In defense of such misinformation, I give you the following > >> enlightenment: > >> Excerpt of article found at: > >> http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967> >> > >> Windows XP Registry Cleaner Can Improve Your PCs Performance > >> If you are wondering why your computer?s performance has been > >> unstable these past few days, you might want to run a compatible > >> registry cleaner for your system. Cleaning up your computer?s > >> registry can make your system perform its best and likewise, extend > >> its life span. Doing this does not require a great deal of technical > >> knowledge because registry cleaners are very easy to use. > >> > >> Before delving deeper into the topic of registry cleaners, it is > >> important for you to know what exactly the registry is and why > >> cleaning it will optimize your computer?s performance. The registry > >> is the place where the operating system of your computer stores all > >> types of information regarding the settings of your software and > >> other vital system settings. It is one of the most critical > >> components to the full functionality of your computer, which is why > >> when something goes wrong in your registry; the overall performance > >> of the computer suffers. > >> ... > >> > >> Full Article at: > >> > >> http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967> > > >
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Twayne wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Another who buries head in sand rather than learn anything useful.
And another spammer that MULTIposts the same message into multiple newsgroups to hide that they shotgunned their post all over the place.
That you are easily swayed by the vendor of a commercial registry cleaner who obviously needs to contrive reasons for paying for their product doesn't mean anyone else is also so easily swayed. Some users actually analyze a product's behavior to determine if it has value while also not incurring a hazard to the stability of their system.
You promote registry cleaners. Well, no, you were promoting one of them and then edited your successive MULTIposts to eliminate the vendor reference but THEIR contrived reasons may not match up with the behavior of another registry cleaner.
So what we have is a troll on a mission to proselytize registry cleaners and do so by MULTIposting it to multiple newsgroups. You've gone out of your way to earn your troll status so feel proud to display your efforts to earn that status.
You don't learn. You recite. You never bother to delve into the subject. You're just spouting someone else's "advice", and which comes from someone that obviously has an ulterior motive to qualify their wares trying to get someone to buy it, and advice that may not be applicable to another product even after you removed the references to the original vendor's article.
I'll provide just one example: orphaned entries. Do they slow down searches or access to the registry? No. Why? Because that branch containing the orphaned entry won't be accessed (or it obviously wouldn't be orphaned). The memory copy of the registry gets accessed, not the file copy, and memory is random read, so reading one word from memory is just as fast as reading another word - but then the orphaned entry won't even get accessed! Ah, but then you aren't interested in learning the registry to understand whether or not the claims by a registry product are valid. You just recite in a vain attempt to elevate your status as some wizard. All you've proven is that you don't have the initiative and smarts to investigate the claims.
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Twayne wrote:
[Quoted Text] >>Twayne wrote: >> >>More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the >>difference between objective unbiased information and advertising >>material? >>John > > > From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you simply > call spam. > > [drivel snipped]
You are posting *unsolicited* commercial material, that falls well withing the definitions of SPAM! You are spaming the newsgroup!
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[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: > >> Another who buries head in sand rather than learn anything useful. > > And another spammer that MULTIposts the same message into multiple > newsgroups to hide that they shotgunned their post all over the place.
An outright lie from a pretty ignorant person. Prove it. You can not. If anything ended up multiposted OR crossposted, it was done by one of your ignorants. Your lie easily displays not only ignorance but also a lack of credibility with a willingness to initiate a troll-session. Otherwise you would not simply go off topic and rant; you would be able to provide facts for WHY registry cleaners are never any good, should never be used, and should always be avoided. But instead you try to change the direction of the posts; nice try.
drivel snipped.
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[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: > >>> Twayne wrote: >>> >>> More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the >>> difference between objective unbiased information and advertising >>> material? >>> John >> >> >> From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you >> simply call spam. >> >> [drivel snipped] > > You are posting *unsolicited* commercial material, that falls well > withing the definitions of SPAM! You are spaming the newsgroup!
lol! Like I said! And if that's the case nearly every new post here qualifies as spam under your definition! BTW, it's not "SPAM"(TM), it's "spam". One is a trademarked name, the other not. But I guess I wouldn't expect you to know that anyway.
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[Quoted Text] > I have been the victim of registry cleaners over the years - and it > took me years to learn my lesson. > > If you'll look at the link that was provided - I have difficulty > taking seriously any page that advertises sexual performance > improvers alongside of it's registry cleaner article. > > But, being adventurous, I ventured on to the link for the reviews > that was provided in the article. On that page I noted many > references to clickbank - and none to Microsoft (who made RegClean > and used to distribute it for free). Then I click on the RegClean > Review link and am directed to a link that claims a money back > guarantee in 8 weeks! The "review" is joke, it doesn't contain any > useful information.
Actually, it sounds like you've been victimized by malware if that's what you came to. Or DNS theft or something. Or, it's always possible too that you made up the post. Either way you need help. I just looked again and there are no irrelevant links as you claim on that page or either of the pages the links take you to. Whatever it was, you apparently need some help.
> > This is (IMO) nothing but a scam that's trying to play on peoples > need for a quick fix. > > - John > > "Twayne" wrote: > >>> More boring twaddle >> >> Well, when a thinking person encounters something boring, he usually >> moves on to the next post. This was clearly addressed to a segment >> of hte population and if you don't consider yourself to be part of >> that, why would you bother with a useless post such as this? Think >> for yourself, man. >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Twayne wrote: >>>> This post is presented to show the errors of the closed minded who >>>> are saying that all registry cleaners are snake oil, never do >>>> anything useful, and/or should never under any circumstance be >>>> used. In defense of such misinformation, I give you the following >>>> enlightenment: >>>> Excerpt of article found at: >>>> http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967 >>>> >>>> Windows XP Registry Cleaner Can Improve Your PCs Performance >>>> If you are wondering why your computer?s performance has been >>>> unstable these past few days, you might want to run a compatible >>>> registry cleaner for your system. Cleaning up your computer?s >>>> registry can make your system perform its best and likewise, extend >>>> its life span. Doing this does not require a great deal of >>>> technical knowledge because registry cleaners are very easy to use. >>>> >>>> Before delving deeper into the topic of registry cleaners, it is >>>> important for you to know what exactly the registry is and why >>>> cleaning it will optimize your computer?s performance. The registry >>>> is the place where the operating system of your computer stores all >>>> types of information regarding the settings of your software and >>>> other vital system settings. It is one of the most critical >>>> components to the full functionality of your computer, which is why >>>> when something goes wrong in your registry; the overall performance >>>> of the computer suffers. >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Full Article at: >>>> >>>> http://www.performanceandcapacity.com/article.cfm/id/361967
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[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: >> > > Spam reported
Likewise abuses reported. If you would like to escalate this, we can surely do that. You are wrong and know it.
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Twayne wrote:
[Quoted Text] >>Twayne wrote: >> >> >>>>Twayne wrote: >>>> >>>>More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the >>>>difference between objective unbiased information and advertising >>>>material? >>>>John >>> >>> >>>From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you >>>simply call spam. >>> >>>[drivel snipped] >> >>You are posting *unsolicited* commercial material, that falls well >>withing the definitions of SPAM! You are spaming the newsgroup! > > > lol! Like I said! And if that's the case nearly every new post here > qualifies as spam under your definition!
Not at all, people post here asking for help with specific problems and at times pointing the poster to a commercial site or suggesting a third party product as a solution to their dilemma is completely appropriate. The difference lies in the *unsolicited* part of the post, in the above case the poster asking for help may be happy with the recommendation of a third party commercial product.
As for your post, you started a new post without being asked for any advice on anything and you posted *unsolicited* commercial material, that is spam! No one asked for it, you just posted it for no valid reason other than to push third party commercial products. And I know what SPAM (meat) is and what unsolicited commercial material is, in upper or lowercase it doesn't matter. In your expected manner you are just doing your usual to skate around the issues, you simply have no credibility left so you try to further obfuscate the issue by trying bring in another one of your completely irrelevant excuses into the discussion.
John
PS. I am still waiting for your links to support your earlier claims that restarting Windows 3 times cleans the registry. Surely an expert like you should be able to easily find supporting information for his claims and acquiesce to such a reasonable request.
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I think you are wrong about the motivation. I doubt that Twayne has any commercial connections with the site. He just thinks he know better than the rest of us. You cannot debate anything with him. It is like talking to a dummy.This conversation needs ending. The more you feed trolls the more boring drivel they spout.
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John John (MVP) wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: > >>> Twayne wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> Twayne wrote: >>>>> >>>>> More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the >>>>> difference between objective unbiased information and advertising >>>>> material? >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you >>>> simply call spam. >>>> >>>> [drivel snipped] >>> >>> You are posting *unsolicited* commercial material, that falls well >>> withing the definitions of SPAM! You are spaming the newsgroup! >> >> >> lol! Like I said! And if that's the case nearly every new post here >> qualifies as spam under your definition! > > Not at all, people post here asking for help with specific problems > and at times pointing the poster to a commercial site or suggesting a > third party product as a solution to their dilemma is completely > appropriate. The difference lies in the *unsolicited* part of the > post, in the above case the poster asking for help may be happy with > the recommendation of a third party commercial product. > > As for your post, you started a new post without being asked for any > advice on anything and you posted *unsolicited* commercial material, > that is spam! No one asked for it, you just posted it for no valid > reason other than to push third party commercial products. And I know > what SPAM (meat) is and what unsolicited commercial material is, in > upper or lowercase it doesn't matter. In your expected manner you are > just doing your usual to skate around the issues, you simply have no > credibility left so you try to further obfuscate the issue by trying > bring in another one of your completely irrelevant excuses into the > discussion. > > John > > PS. I am still waiting for your links to support your earlier claims > that restarting Windows 3 times cleans the registry. Surely an expert > like you should be able to easily find supporting information for his > claims and acquiesce to such a reasonable request.
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[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: > >>> Twayne wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> Twayne wrote: >>>>> >>>>> More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the >>>>> difference between objective unbiased information and advertising >>>>> material? >>>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you >>>> simply call spam. >>>> >>>> [drivel snipped] >>> >>> You are posting *unsolicited* commercial material, that falls well >>> withing the definitions of SPAM! You are spaming the newsgroup! >> >> >> lol! Like I said! And if that's the case nearly every new post here >> qualifies as spam under your definition! > > Not at all, people post here asking for help with specific problems > and at times pointing the poster to a commercial site or suggesting a > third party product as a solution to their dilemma is completely > appropriate. The difference lies in the *unsolicited* part of the > post, in the above case the poster asking for help may be happy with > the recommendation of a third party commercial product. > > As for your post, you started a new post without being asked for any > advice on anything and you posted *unsolicited* commercial material, > that is spam! No one asked for it, you just posted it for no valid > reason other than to push third party commercial products. And I know > what SPAM (meat) is and what unsolicited commercial material is, in > upper or lowercase it doesn't matter. In your expected manner you are > just doing your usual to skate around the issues, you simply have no > credibility left so you try to further obfuscate the issue by trying > bring in another one of your completely irrelevant excuses into the > discussion. > > John > > PS. I am still waiting for your links to support your earlier claims > that restarting Windows 3 times cleans the registry. Surely an expert > like you should be able to easily find supporting information for his > claims and acquiesce to such a reasonable request.
lol, go ahead and wait!
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[Quoted Text] > John > > I think you are wrong about the motivation. I doubt that Twayne has > any commercial connections with the site. He just thinks he know > better than the rest of us. You cannot debate anything with him. It > is like talking to a dummy.This conversation needs ending. The more > you feed trolls the more boring drivel they spout.
Especially when the tripe being spewed in misinformation. If you want to call correctin misinformation that, then feel free.
> > > > John John (MVP) wrote: >> Twayne wrote: >> >>>> Twayne wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Twayne wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> More spam. Are you really too much of a simpleton to know the >>>>>> difference between objective unbiased information and advertising >>>>>> material? >>>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From one who has no idea what spam is. What you don't like you >>>>> simply call spam. >>>>> >>>>> [drivel snipped] >>>> >>>> You are posting *unsolicited* commercial material, that falls well >>>> withing the definitions of SPAM! You are spaming the newsgroup! >>> >>> >>> lol! Like I said! And if that's the case nearly every new post >>> here qualifies as spam under your definition! >> >> Not at all, people post here asking for help with specific problems >> and at times pointing the poster to a commercial site or suggesting a >> third party product as a solution to their dilemma is completely >> appropriate. The difference lies in the *unsolicited* part of the >> post, in the above case the poster asking for help may be happy with >> the recommendation of a third party commercial product. >> >> As for your post, you started a new post without being asked for any >> advice on anything and you posted *unsolicited* commercial material, >> that is spam! No one asked for it, you just posted it for no valid >> reason other than to push third party commercial products. And I >> know what SPAM (meat) is and what unsolicited commercial material >> is, in upper or lowercase it doesn't matter. In your expected >> manner you are just doing your usual to skate around the issues, you >> simply have no credibility left so you try to further obfuscate the >> issue by trying bring in another one of your completely irrelevant >> excuses into the discussion. >> >> John >> >> PS. I am still waiting for your links to support your earlier claims >> that restarting Windows 3 times cleans the registry. Surely an >> expert like you should be able to easily find supporting information >> for his claims and acquiesce to such a reasonable request.
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Twayne wrote:
[Quoted Text] >> Twayne wrote: >> Spam reported > > Likewise abuses reported. If you would like to escalate this, we can > surely do that. You are wrong and know it. > >
I'm not worried. You're the one posting unsolicited commercial advertisements. That's spam, plain and simple.
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[Quoted Text] > Twayne wrote: >>> Twayne wrote: >>> Spam reported >> >> Likewise abuses reported. If you would like to escalate this, we can >> surely do that. You are wrong and know it. >> >> > > > I'm not worried. You're the one posting unsolicited commercial > advertisements. That's spam, plain and simple.
What's interesting here is the implicit admission that you are wrong and that you know it. The very likely possibility that you know you are wrong is supported by your refusal quite some time ago and even recently to to provide even empirical experiences or research other than a couple of MS's cleaner's articles you used for parts of your boilerplate posts about no registry cleaner having any value. Once can only conclude from your actions that you know nothing of the situation now or even of such apps in the past. Or I suppose that you may simply have a childish mentality.
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"Twayne" <nobody[ at ]devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:e5e3yRCQJHA.1164[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >> Twayne wrote: >>>> Twayne wrote: >>>> Spam reported >>> >>> Likewise abuses reported. If you would like to escalate this, we can >>> surely do that. You are wrong and know it. >>> >>> >> >> >> I'm not worried. You're the one posting unsolicited commercial >> advertisements. That's spam, plain and simple. > > What's interesting here is the implicit admission that you are wrong and > that you know it. The very likely possibility that you know you are wrong > is supported by your refusal quite some time ago and even recently to to > provide even empirical experiences or research other than a couple of MS's > cleaner's articles you used for parts of your boilerplate posts about no > registry cleaner having any value. Once can only conclude from your > actions that you know nothing of the situation now or even of such apps in > the past. Or I suppose that you may simply have a childish mentality. >
Twayne I've used a variety of registry cleaners over the years and there have only been a few rare exceptions when I encountered any serious negative effects to my system by using them. I run 5 systems on my home network, I run 7 systems at work. I run CCleaner daily on a couple of them and no registry cleaners on several of them. By and large I see the majority of registry cleaners as performing a similar function whether they are freeware or commercial. So I use freeware instead of paying $30 for a program that likely doesn't do any better of a job than the freeware.
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