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Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/3/2008 4:47:35 PM
I have windows xp pro sp2 x64 and i'm trying to install vista ultimate sp1 x64 and expanding files is way too slow. I have 4gb ram, Dual processor AMD AM2 6000, hard drive is Hitachi HDP725032GLA360 connection is SATA2 I think. Please help me!!! P.S. I tried installing with just one 2gb stick and it didnt work -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/3/2008 5:35:48 PM
Can you rewrite your posting of what you are trying to do. You are installing Vista Ultimate x64 over XP Pro x64 SP2? I would recommend either adding a second hard drive to dual boot or backup and do a clean install. What are you using the 2GB stick for? -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/3/2008 5:39:22 PM
No no you got me wrong, I'm not installing it over xp i'm installing it instead of XP you know from BIOS 1st boot device and stuff, and what I tried to do was remove one of my 2GB ram sticks and tried to install vista with just one 2GB ram stick connected(I saw it in another forum) but it didnt work. And basicly it all goes well(although slow) but everything works up untill I get to Expanding Files and then its like 1% per hour -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
Josh__MCTS 11/3/2008 7:57:01 PM
is your processor still set in 64 bit mode ??
have you tried a clean install instead of a upgrade ??
is your vista disk the 64 bit version?? are you sure ??
--
Joshua Randall


"tomer" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> No no you got me wrong, I'm not installing it over xp i'm installing it
> instead of XP you know from BIOS 1st boot device and stuff, and what I
> tried to do was remove one of my 2GB ram sticks and tried to install
> vista with just one 2GB ram stick connected(I saw it in another forum)
> but it didnt work.
> And basicly it all goes well(although slow) but everything works up
> untill I get to Expanding Files and then its like 1% per hour
>
>
> --
> tomer
>
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/3/2008 8:10:38 PM
like I said, a clean install is what i'm trying to do. what do you mean set to 64 bit??? its automatic once you install a 64 bit OS or isnt it?? and yea my vista is 64 bit -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/3/2008 9:17:24 PM
Did you remove everything from the drive before installing? I would reset your CMOS to default. Check the connections on your hard drive. Get the latest BIOS rev. Reduce RAM to 1-2 sticks. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/3/2008 9:49:03 PM
Are you reformatting the partition you are trying to install in as part of
the install? How big is the partition? Are there any other partitions with
operating systems installed on the drive?
Is your MOBO BIOS up to date?
Is your SATA controller built into your MOBO?
"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> like I said, a clean install is what i'm trying to do.
> what do you mean set to 64 bit??? its automatic once you install a 64
> bit OS or isnt it??
> and yea my vista is 64 bit
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/3/2008 11:47:26 PM
Well I did everything you said and in the CMOS the only option I saw was to load optimized settings, nothing about default so I chose that but it didnt work. P.S. I installed Windows XP PRO SP2 x32 to see what the Vista upgrade advisor has to say, and By diconnecting everything from the drive did you mean all the physical connections??(If so thats what I did except for the Screen, Mouse and keyboard). Someone please help me install that damn vista!!!! -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 3:54:11 PM
Please help! -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/4/2008 4:18:53 PM
Please respond to my post of yesterday. Your answers may enable us in
helping you.
"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> Please help!
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 4:49:02 PM
Post the exact error on the screen. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 6:11:56 PM
SCSIraidGURU: There is no error, it just takes ages to "Expand Files", I left it on for 2 days and it only got to 60-70% Curious: I already told you, I restart my comp, I press F12 to go to boot menu then I choose CDROM and then the vista install comes up and it takes about 5 mins or more for the Language stuff to come up then I choose all english, "Install Now", "Custom (Advanced)......", and then its like "please wait" for like another 5-8 mins then I enter the product key and it takes it about a minute to continue, and then its "Copying Files" in like a few seconds and then it takes it ages to "Expand Files"(1%=20 mins or more). -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/4/2008 6:35:00 PM
Sorry I did not and still do not see your previous response. To the
following questions I asked
"
Are you reformatting the partition you are trying to install in as part of
the install? How big is the partition? Are there any other partitions with
operating systems installed on the drive?
Is your MOBO BIOS up to date?
Is your SATA controller built into your MOBO?
"
I am surprised that when you boot from Installation DVD that you do not get
a chance to select the partition to install in and that you do not get a
chance to reformat the partition before the installation starts.
"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> SCSIraidGURU: There is no error, it just takes ages to "Expand Files", I
> left it on for 2 days and it only got to 60-70%
>
> Curious: I already told you, I restart my comp, I press F12 to go to
> boot menu then I choose CDROM and then the vista install comes up and it
> takes about 5 mins or more for the Language stuff to come up then I
> choose all english, "Install Now", "Custom (Advanced)......", and then
> its like "please wait" for like another 5-8 mins then I enter the
> product key and it takes it about a minute to continue, and then its
> "Copying Files" in like a few seconds and then it takes it ages to
> "Expand Files"(1%=20 mins or more).
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 6:44:17 PM
Try a different brand DVD reader. Is this DVD a Microsoft burned or self-burned? -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 6:54:48 PM
I have a question. How large is your C: partition you are installing too? -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 8:17:26 PM
Ok, my C: partition is 50 GB, and sorry I forgot to write but I do get a chance to select a partition and yes I format the partition in the vista installation and no I dont have multiple OS, The DVD is self-burned I burned it in x24 speed and yea my MOBO Bios is up to date -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/4/2008 9:03:42 PM
It appears that the installation is having many problems reading the
installation DVD you created? What is the source of your image and have you
tried making a new copy at a slower speed?
"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, my C: partition is 50 GB, and sorry I forgot to write but I do get a
> chance to select a partition and yes I format the partition in the vista
> installation and no I dont have multiple OS, The DVD is self-burned I
> burned it in x24 speed and yea my MOBO Bios is up to date
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Ian D" <taurus[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/4/2008 9:04:09 PM

"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:15ef4e12eec78ba73f235f56181fe64d[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Ok, my C: partition is 50 GB, and sorry I forgot to write but I do get a
> chance to select a partition and yes I format the partition in the vista
> installation and no I dont have multiple OS, The DVD is self-burned I
> burned it in x24 speed and yea my MOBO Bios is up to date
>
>
> --
> tomer

Try the original DVD. From your descriptions of your problem,
your DVD drive is having difficulty reading the disk. This has
nothing to do with Vista. Parts of the install process that should
only take a matter of seconds, such as language selection, are taking
minutes because of the disk reading difficulty. This is why you are
getting 1% of expansion per hour. In the expansion process, files
are copied from the DVD to the HD then expanded in sequence.

It could also be a hard drive problem, but I don't think the HD could
be that slow, even in PIO mode, that's why I focused on the DVD.



Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 9:17:40 PM
I learned a long time ago to do ISO install disks at no more than 4x. I would reburn it at 1x-4x. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/4/2008 9:46:47 PM
Ok, I'll re-burn it and report back. Thanks Alot! -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Ian D" <taurus[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/5/2008 12:25:15 AM

"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, I'll re-burn it and report back.
> Thanks Alot!
>
>
> --
> tomer

Why not use the MS original disk?


Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/5/2008 1:55:39 AM
Ian D;878686 Wrote: > "tomer" <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:8937791e29d63c50a78c7086e8283864[ at ]xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > > > > > Ok, I'll re-burn it and report back. > > > Thanks Alot! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > tomer > > > > Why not use the MS original disk? because apperantly the guys I bought the comp from gave me an original 32bit edition of Vista even though I got a 64bit processor -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/5/2008 3:34:57 AM
You can call Microsoft and get the 64-bit DVD for $25. It is worth it. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Ian D" <taurus[ at ]nowhere.com> 11/5/2008 3:42:31 AM

"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> Ian D;878686 Wrote:
>> "tomer" <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:8937791e29d63c50a78c7086e8283864[ at ]xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ok, I'll re-burn it and report back.
>> > > Thanks Alot!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > tomer > >
>>
>> Why not use the MS original disk?
>
> because apperantly the guys I bought the comp from gave me an original
> 32bit edition of Vista even though I got a 64bit processor
>
>
> --
> tomer

If you have an OEM Vista x86 product key, OEM Vista x64 will not
accept the key and you will not be able to activate it. However, there
are documented ways of extending the activation grace period a
number of times. If you are working with retail versions, all is okay.

As far as the 64 bit CPU is concerned, 64 bit CPUs are now the norm,
and systems are usually sold with 32 bit Vista, so you would have to
specify that you wanted 64 bit Vista.


Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/5/2008 2:33:28 PM
Microsoft will upgrade your 32-bit key to a 64-bit key. You will agree to have them revoke your 32-bit key. I would make sure the trial version is running on all hardware and software before doing this. It is a pain to reverse it. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/5/2008 3:42:27 PM
Then where are you getting the 64 bit Installation Disk image from that you
are trying to copy?

"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ian D;878686 Wrote:
>> "tomer" <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:8937791e29d63c50a78c7086e8283864[ at ]xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ok, I'll re-burn it and report back.
>> > > Thanks Alot!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > tomer > >
>>
>> Why not use the MS original disk?
>
> because apperantly the guys I bought the comp from gave me an original
> 32bit edition of Vista even though I got a 64bit processor
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/5/2008 7:37:36 PM
Ok so it didnt work :/ and the image I downloaded was *Microsoft.Windows.Vista.ULTIMATE.x64.SP1.Integrated.July.2008.OEM.DVD-BIE* from here: 'Microsoft Windows Vista x64 SP1 OEM DVD Integrated July 2008 - Romanian Electronic Network Security Lab Team' (http://www.renslt.org/appz/2165656-microsoft-windows-vista-x64-sp1-oem-dvd-integrated-july-2008-a.html). I burned it with Nero at x4 -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/5/2008 7:46:07 PM
Is it an ISO file? .ISO? You need to use Burn Image in Nero to burn it for a bootable DVD. Is this how you did it. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/5/2008 8:03:32 PM
SCSIraidGURU;879286 Wrote: > Is it an ISO file? .ISO? You need to use Burn Image in Nero to burn it > for a bootable DVD. Is this how you did it. Yea, I chose "Burn Image To Disc" and chose that image and x4 speed and yea its an .ISO file -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/5/2008 8:33:19 PM

After checking the link: It certainly seems strange that you can legally
download and activate a Vista release and activate it without every entering
a product key and that the installation will actually work.
"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> SCSIraidGURU;879286 Wrote:
>> Is it an ISO file? .ISO? You need to use Burn Image in Nero to burn it
>> for a bootable DVD. Is this how you did it.
> Yea, I chose "Burn Image To Disc" and chose that image and x4 speed
> and yea its an .ISO file
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/6/2008 4:38:23 AM
Try is different burner. Replace the DVD drive. Install the hard drive on a different motherboard that you know works with Vista x64 and install it. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/6/2008 12:19:54 PM
Well I think I figured it out, its my DVD-burner, I mean you like sometimes when you burn a dvd or cd and then you try to read it with the burner that burned it and it cant read it right??? well I think thats the situation here because I tried to install vista on my sister's comp and the language came up in seconds the only problem is that her DVD-ROM works on ATA133 and all I have is SATA2 and IDE so now I need to buy a DVD-ROM :/ -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/6/2008 2:51:52 PM
I just bought one for $26. It was TST DVD dual and double layer. You could just borrow one for now from her. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/6/2008 6:29:02 PM
Yea I just did and it appears that my DVD isnt the problem after all. Anyway i'm going to the place where I bought my comp from and have them replace my Hard Drive because besides the hard drive I cant think of anything else the could cause the problems I described. I'll report back tomorrow. -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/7/2008 6:04:15 PM
Well now i'm really puzzled because its not the hard drive either :/ -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 11/7/2008 6:34:21 PM
Everything points to a problem reading from your drive.
ATA133 is EIDE so you should be able to read from your sisters drive using
your machines IDE connection.

"tomer" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> Well now i'm really puzzled because its not the hard drive either :/
>
>
> --
> tomer

Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/7/2008 6:58:50 PM
ATAPI/IDE DVD drives are faster than SATA. Most SATA DVDs are 66 MHz. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney
'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/7/2008 8:40:55 PM
Yea I tried it Curious, I tried my sister's DVD-ROM on my comp and its still the same problem :/ -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
DDW <dd.wright[ at ]KILLSPAMcomcast.net> 11/7/2008 8:45:46 PM
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:04:15 -0600, tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com>
wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Well now i'm really puzzled because its not the hard drive either :/

I had a similar problem years ago with an older MS Office Suite
installation disc. It was the disc. Oddly, when I made a copy of
that disc, the copy worked better than the original.

DDW
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Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/7/2008 10:54:16 PM
Already tried reburning it, didnt help..... -- tomer
Re: Expanding Files- 1% per hour
Snidley W. <snidley[ at ]whiplash.com> 11/7/2008 11:14:28 PM
tomer <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:

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>
>Already tried reburning it, didnt help.....

Let's see...

There's nothing wrong with your hardware.

There's nothing wrong with the installation media.

Have you considered scheduling an exorcism?

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