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How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
There are different folders that require different settings, but XP keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode.
Michael
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"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser[ at ]nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list >/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? > >There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred >default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - >yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder >Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after >changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details >mode. > >Michael
For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important facility. Or are indifferent to the issue.
Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.
-- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE[ at ]THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser[ at ]nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote: > >>How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list >>/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? >> >>There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >>keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred >>default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - >>yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder >>Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after >>changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details >>mode. >> >>Michael > >For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But >I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And >that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important >facility. Or are indifferent to the issue. > >Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders >from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.
I meant to add also that I need this customization not only for Explore/My Computer folders but for File Open & File Save As browsing too.
-- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Just a idea that came to my mind: maybe I once did a Tools => Folder Options => "Apply to all folders" (namely when I defined "Details view" as default). And maybe XP memorizes this ever since.
So, what happens if I click "Reset All Folders"? Since I have so many bad experiences with MS SW using such global settings I am rather reluctant to try this. Can that ruin my system or will it simply re-allow individual folder settings?
Michael
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[Quoted Text] > "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser[ at ]nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote: > >> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / >> list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? >> >> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my >> preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* >> folders). And - >> yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in >> Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since >> after changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in >> details mode. >> >> Michael > > For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But > I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And > that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important > facility. Or are indifferent to the issue. > > Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders > from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.
I haven't responded because I can't relocate the info you need. But maybe this will help you find it. The "memory" for how many folders XP can remember settings for is rather low and can be adjusted with a registry tweak. Perhaps this will trip someone's memory that has the article/reference to it.
HTH
Twayne
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Michael Moser wrote:
[Quoted Text] > How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list > / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? > > There are different folders that require different settings, but XP > keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred > default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes > - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder > Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after > changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode. > > Michael >
Found some info in google that indicates that yes, its a limit of the OS as to how many directories it remembers. If you wish, I googled "remember folder settings". But one page suggests MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
<quote> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the original 400 remembered folders to 5000. (Took them long enough to fix that problem!) Until they made the fix, you could make the change in the registry by modifying these two entries: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug. <quote>
Give it a try at your own risk.
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Big_Al <BigAl[ at ]md.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Michael Moser wrote: >> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list >> / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? >> >> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred >> default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes >> - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder >> Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after >> changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode. >> >> Michael >> > >Found some info in google that indicates that yes, its a limit of the OS >as to how many directories it remembers. >If you wish, I googled "remember folder settings". >But one page suggests MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak. > ><quote> >XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the original 400 remembered >folders to 5000. (Took them long enough to fix that problem!) Until they >made the fix, you could make the change in the registry by modifying >these two entries: >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell >and >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam >Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and >assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug. ><quote> > >Give it a try at your own risk.
You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. Mine is set to 5,000.
But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.
1. Folders don't consistently open in a My Computer window in the same view mode as previously.
2. File Open and File Save As views are not consistently the same as a) Previously b) The corresponding My Computer folder view
-- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser[ at ]nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote in message news:efWL8UTWJHA.4148[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] > How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list / > thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? > > There are different folders that require different settings, but XP keeps > showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred > default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes - > I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder Options > => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after changing this > and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode. > > Michael >
There's a script available from this web site that you might find helpful.
Folder ViewMasterIII http://home.mchsi.com/~k.miller79/
Direct download
http://home.mchsi.com/~k.miller79/Scripts/FVM3.zip
Good luck
Nepatsfan
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[Quoted Text] > Big_Al <BigAl[ at ]md.com> wrote: > >> Michael Moser wrote: >>> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / >>> list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? >>> >>> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >>> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my >>> preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* >>> folders). And - yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view >>> settings" in Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously >>> ignored, since after changing this and later reopening the folder, >>> it's again in details mode. >>> >>> Michael >>> >> >> Found some info in google that indicates that yes, its a limit of >> the OS as to how many directories it remembers. >> If you wish, I googled "remember folder settings". >> But one page suggests MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak. >> >> <quote> >> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the original 400 >> remembered folders to 5000. (Took them long enough to fix that >> problem!) Until they made the fix, you could make the change in the >> registry by modifying these two entries: >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell >> and >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam >> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys >> and assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder >> settings bug. <quote> >> >> Give it a try at your own risk. > > You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. Mine > is set to 5,000. > > But that doesn't solve either of the problems here. > > 1. Folders don't consistently open in a My Computer window in the same > view mode as previously. > > 2. File Open and File Save As views are not consistently the same as > a) Previously > b) The corresponding My Computer folder view
How so? Those sound just like the symptoms I had years ago. Folders it remembered worked OK sometimes, not at others if someting pushed them along in the buffer & so forth I guess; it's been a long time. It wasn't exactly a FIFO or a FILO organization, but interspersed itself somehow on the buffer. MS had a KB article on it, but I still can't seem to locat it.
Just curious, \ Twayne
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xp folder views limit on Google gets quite a few hits; these describe the solutions I alluded to, amongst others:
http://forum.soft32.com/win4/XP-keeping-Folder-View-options-restart-ftopict227530.html
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/folderviews.htm
Twayne
[Quoted Text] >> "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser[ at ]nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote: >> >>> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / >>> list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? >>> >>> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >>> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my >>> preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* >>> folders). And - >>> yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in >>> Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since >>> after changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in >>> details mode. >>> >>> Michael >> >> For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. >> But I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. >> And that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important >> facility. Or are indifferent to the issue. >> >> Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular >> folders from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa. > > I haven't responded because I can't relocate the info you need. But > maybe this will help you find it. The "memory" for how many folders > XP can remember settings for is rather low and can be adjusted with a > registry tweak. Perhaps this will trip someone's memory that has the > article/reference to it. > > HTH > > Twayne
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Use this VBScript to set your folder views:
Folder View Master by MS-MVP Keith Miller (no homepage anymore) http://mysite.verizon.net/res18hr7/FVM3.zip or http://members.home.nl/alsdewiedeweerga/Scripts/FVM3/FVM3.rar
Just follow its directions. If you want to master folder views too, just ask.
Related:
FileOpenPatcher from ElmuSoft enlarges the Windows Open File dialog and sets Details view as default.
FileOpenPatcher is the successor of the famous MultiEnhancer. FileOpenPatcher (Scroll down page) Info: http://www.netcult.ch/elmue/ElmueSoft-en.htm Download Link 1: ftp://ftp.netcult.ch/mirror/elmue/FileOpenPatcher.zip Download Link 2: http://electronix.ch/ptbsync/FileOpenPatcher.zip
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"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE[ at ]THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:b0vuj41ud0vhanul6e9hjvqh1nvaoanln6[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text] > "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser[ at ]nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote: > >>How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list >>/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis? >> >>There are different folders that require different settings, but XP >>keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred >>default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - >>yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder >>Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after >>changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details >>mode. >> >>Michael > > For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But > I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And > that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important > facility. Or are indifferent to the issue. > > Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders > from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa. > > -- > Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > ... > MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
.... >> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the >> original 400 remembered folders to 5000. > ... > you could make the change in the registry by modifying >> these two entries: >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell >> and >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam >> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and >> assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug. > ... > You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. > Mine is set to 5,000. > But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.
Terry, TweakUI v2.10 for XP is broken. It incorrectly operates on 'Bag MRU Size' instead of 'BagMRU Size'. Edit the registry another way.
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"a_nonymous" <anonymous[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > >"Terry Pinnell" wrote: >> ... >> MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak. >... >>> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the >>> original 400 remembered folders to 5000. >> ... >> you could make the change in the registry by modifying >>> these two entries: >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell >>> and >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam >>> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and >>> assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug. >> ... >> You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. >> Mine is set to 5,000. >> But that doesn't solve either of the problems here. > >Terry, > TweakUI v2.10 for XP is broken. It incorrectly operates on >'Bag MRU Size' instead of 'BagMRU Size'. Edit the registry another way. >
Thanks. Just checked and see that both keys contain *both* entries, each set to 5000. Is 'Bag MRU Size' redundant?
-- Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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[Quoted Text] > >"Terry Pinnell" wrote: > >> ... > >> MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak. > >... > >>> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the > >>> original 400 remembered folders to 5000. > >> ... > >> you could make the change in the registry by modifying > >>> these two entries: > >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell > >>> and > >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam > >>> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and > >>> assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug. > >> ... > >> You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. > >> Mine is set to 5,000. > >> But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.
> "a_nonymous" wrote: > >Terry, > > TweakUI v2.10 for XP is broken. It incorrectly operates on > >'Bag MRU Size' instead of 'BagMRU Size'. Edit the registry another way.
"Terry Pinnell" wrote: > Thanks. Just checked and see that both keys contain *both* entries, > each set to 5000. Is 'Bag MRU Size' redundant?
Terry, Yes, 'Bag MRU Size' is redundant.
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