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Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
vipeness <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/23/2008 7:04:36 PM
Hey Guys! First time on these forums and just signed up. I have a few questions; I'm going to be moving from Vista 32bit to Vista64bit tonight.. I currently have Vista32bit installed and I know that I have to completely format the drive to install Vista64bit. Do still need to install winxp pro to start the install of vista64bit? i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came with the 32 and 64 bit versions. Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial install to install it... -- vipeness
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
"AJR" <ajrjdr[ at ]comcast.net> 10/23/2008 8:19:42 PM
Boot from 64 DVD - not necessasry to pre-format - setup will do it all -
forget about XP, it has no bearing on installing Vista (Except if dual
booting is involved).

"vipeness" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:44e01bb94c09470f8da377bc70494c98[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> First time on these forums and just signed up.
>
> I have a few questions;
>
> I'm going to be moving from Vista 32bit to Vista64bit tonight..
>
> I currently have Vista32bit installed and I know that I have to
> completely format the drive to install Vista64bit.
>
> Do still need to install winxp pro to start the install of vista64bit?
>
> i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came
> with the 32 and 64 bit versions.
>
> Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial
> install to install it...
>
>
> --
> vipeness


Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
Deet <deetritus[ at ]garbage.com> 10/23/2008 8:35:37 PM
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:04:36 -0500, vipeness <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com>
wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial
>install to install it...

Boot to it and go for it.
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
vipeness <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/23/2008 8:48:39 PM
sweet deal; im all over it tonight... but that will work perfectly with an upgrade disk ? Thanks guys -- vipeness
RE: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
Mick Murphy 10/23/2008 8:56:05 PM
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_upgrade_clean.asp

The above link has info for you to do it.
--
Mad Mike


"vipeness" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> First time on these forums and just signed up.
>
> I have a few questions;
>
> I'm going to be moving from Vista 32bit to Vista64bit tonight..
>
> I currently have Vista32bit installed and I know that I have to
> completely format the drive to install Vista64bit.
>
> Do still need to install winxp pro to start the install of vista64bit?
>
> i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came
> with the 32 and 64 bit versions.
>
> Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial
> install to install it...
>
>
> --
> vipeness
>
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper[ at ]email.com> 10/23/2008 10:21:33 PM
1. There is no supported method of clean-installing any upgrade version of
Vista. A work-around currently works but may not work always and forever.

2. There is no way to upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit so unless you have a 64-bit
Windows XP to install you can't get there from here anyway.

3. Why 64-bit? Unless you need to support more than 4gb total memory or
have 64-bit software, stick with 32-bit. There is no advantage to running
64-bit Vista over 32-bit Vista.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper[ at ]gmail.com
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/


"vipeness" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:44e01bb94c09470f8da377bc70494c98[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> First time on these forums and just signed up.
>
> I have a few questions;
>
> I'm going to be moving from Vista 32bit to Vista64bit tonight..
>
> I currently have Vista32bit installed and I know that I have to
> completely format the drive to install Vista64bit.
>
> Do still need to install winxp pro to start the install of vista64bit?
>
> i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came
> with the 32 and 64 bit versions.
>
> Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial
> install to install it...
>
>
> --
> vipeness

Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
vipeness <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/23/2008 10:57:32 PM
i have a few games that support x64 mode, and I also want to add 8g ram to my machine for editing (videos) graphics. -- vipeness
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
Snidley W. <snidley[ at ]whiplash.com> 10/23/2008 11:03:37 PM
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:21:33 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
<rgharper[ at ]email.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>1. There is no supported method of clean-installing any upgrade version of
>Vista. A work-around currently works but may not work always and forever.

Irrelevant. Re-read the OP's post.

>2. There is no way to upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit so unless you have a 64-bit
>Windows XP to install you can't get there from here anyway.

Again, irrelevant. Re-read the OP's post.

>3. Why 64-bit? Unless you need to support more than 4gb total memory or
>have 64-bit software, stick with 32-bit. There is no advantage to running
>64-bit Vista over 32-bit Vista.

That info might come in handy if the OP is ever on Jeopardy and needs
it.

>--
>Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper[ at ]gmail.com
>* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>
>
>"vipeness" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>news:44e01bb94c09470f8da377bc70494c98[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Hey Guys!
>>
>> First time on these forums and just signed up.
>>
>> I have a few questions;
>>
>> I'm going to be moving from Vista 32bit to Vista64bit tonight..
>>
>> I currently have Vista32bit installed and I know that I have to
>> completely format the drive to install Vista64bit.
>>
>> Do still need to install winxp pro to start the install of vista64bit?
>>
>> i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came
>> with the 32 and 64 bit versions.
>>
>> Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial
>> install to install it...
>>
>>
>> --
>> vipeness
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall[ at ]remove_mvps.com> 10/23/2008 11:28:32 PM
"Snidley W." <snidley[ at ]whiplash.com> wrote in message
news:el02g4lg4ldnmsmrb1o7gbteqb9h3mrif2[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text]
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:21:33 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
> <rgharper[ at ]email.com> wrote:
>
>>1. There is no supported method of clean-installing any upgrade version
>>of
>>Vista. A work-around currently works but may not work always and forever.
>
> Irrelevant. Re-read the OP's post.
>
>>2. There is no way to upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit so unless you have a
>>64-bit
>>Windows XP to install you can't get there from here anyway.
>
> Again, irrelevant. Re-read the OP's post.
>
>>3. Why 64-bit? Unless you need to support more than 4gb total memory or
>>have 64-bit software, stick with 32-bit. There is no advantage to running
>>64-bit Vista over 32-bit Vista.
>
> That info might come in handy if the OP is ever on Jeopardy and needs
> it.
>


We are waiting with baited breath for your answers to the OP questions..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx




Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
Snidley W. <snidley[ at ]whiplash.com> 10/23/2008 11:42:24 PM
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall[ at ]remove_mvps.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>We are waiting with baited breath for your answers to the OP questions..

Gonna be a long wait, because it was answered by at least two posters
before the other "MVP" hopped in with all the irrelevant stuff.

I see no need to repeat what someone else already said.

--
SW
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
"Ian D" <taurus[ at ]nowhere.com> 10/24/2008 1:05:51 AM

"vipeness" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:44e01bb94c09470f8da377bc70494c98[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> First time on these forums and just signed up.
>
> I have a few questions;
>
> I'm going to be moving from Vista 32bit to Vista64bit tonight..
>
> I currently have Vista32bit installed and I know that I have to
> completely format the drive to install Vista64bit.
>
> Do still need to install winxp pro to start the install of vista64bit?
>
> i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came
> with the 32 and 64 bit versions.
>
> Or can i just put the 64x disk in, restart, then go from the initial
> install to install it...
>
>
> --
> vipeness

Start the installation from the Vista 64 DVD. It will require
a clean install, but if you do not reformat the partition, it
will save the complete 32 bit installation in a windows old
folder. That way, if x64 doesn't work out for you, you can
revert to your 32 bit installation. If all is okay, you can then
delete that folder.


Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
Mick Murphy 10/24/2008 4:18:01 AM
That should be "bated" breath.
--
Mad Mike


"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> "Snidley W." <snidley[ at ]whiplash.com> wrote in message
> news:el02g4lg4ldnmsmrb1o7gbteqb9h3mrif2[ at ]4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:21:33 -0400, "Richard G. Harper"
> > <rgharper[ at ]email.com> wrote:
> >
> >>1. There is no supported method of clean-installing any upgrade version
> >>of
> >>Vista. A work-around currently works but may not work always and forever.
> >
> > Irrelevant. Re-read the OP's post.
> >
> >>2. There is no way to upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit so unless you have a
> >>64-bit
> >>Windows XP to install you can't get there from here anyway.
> >
> > Again, irrelevant. Re-read the OP's post.
> >
> >>3. Why 64-bit? Unless you need to support more than 4gb total memory or
> >>have 64-bit software, stick with 32-bit. There is no advantage to running
> >>64-bit Vista over 32-bit Vista.
> >
> > That info might come in handy if the OP is ever on Jeopardy and needs
> > it.
> >
>
>
> We are waiting with baited breath for your answers to the OP questions..
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
"Tom Lake" <toml_12953[ at ]hotmail.com> 10/24/2008 8:11:28 AM


"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7DEC3D67-191E-42E0-B392-D3AB2B48C4F3[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> That should be "bated" breath.

Not many people know that "bated breath" is the correct phrase.
Also, his breath may smell like fish in which case baited may be OK! 8^)

Tom Lake

Re: Moving to Vistax64 tonight... few question..
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper[ at ]email.com> 10/24/2008 10:32:55 AM
Sir or Madam, I suggest YOU read his post. It clearly says:

[Quoted Text]
> i have the vista ultimate upgrade limited edition package that came
> with the 32 and 64 bit versions.

So point one is exactly on target - an UPGRADE edition cannot be used to do
a CLEAN install in any supported manner. His product key will not allow it.

Ditto for point two - since his UPGRADE edition must be installed as an
UPGRADE to an existing version of Windows, that limitation also applies.

And point three was intended to save him some time, misery and to inform him
(in case he did not know) that he won't gain anything in exchange for his
efforts. It's known as being HELPFUL.

I wish you the very best of days as you leave.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper[ at ]gmail.com
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/


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