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Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
JimL
---
Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully refunded.
3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
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inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>
>
> JimL
>
> ---
> Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>
> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully refunded.
> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
I think this was hashed over in the Thunderbird group.
Thunderbird does all this. If you so mark the group to work off line
and download all data.
And the default is not 'peeking' at a server, you are downloading
headers (subject) and refraining from downloading the message body till
you want or need to. For bandwidth its the preferred way. But
again, you can change Thunderbird to fit your desires. Couldn't find
it in OE however.
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Outlook Express?
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking
> for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to
> giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>
>
> JimL
>
> ---
> Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>
> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully
> refunded.
> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:30:12 -0400, inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>
>
>JimL
>
>---
>Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>
> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully refunded.
> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
Agent ( not free ) .
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Big_Al wrote:
[Quoted Text] > inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
>> Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking
>> for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to
>> giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>>
>>
>> JimL
>>
>> --- Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>>
>> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
>> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully
>> refunded.
>> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
>
> I think this was hashed over in the Thunderbird group.
>
> Thunderbird does all this. If you so mark the group to work off line
> and download all data.
>
> And the default is not 'peeking' at a server, you are downloading
> headers (subject) and refraining from downloading the message body till
> you want or need to. For bandwidth its the preferred way. But
> again, you can change Thunderbird to fit your desires. Couldn't find
> it in OE however.
It's available in OE too, just not easy to set up as Thunderbird though.
Just click on the Newsgroup server in the folders pane to highlight it
and in the message view pane it'll list all the subscribed newsgroup
topics. Then just click on one of the topics and click on the setting
button at the top. Gives you a choice of:
All Messages
New Messages
Headers Only
Biggest problem is that you can't highlight more than one message area
and change them all at once, you have to do it one at a time. Then you
can add a Synchronize Now button on your tool bar to have OE suck down
all the newsgroup postings as well as email.
--
Roy Smith
I use Firefox because I want to use software that complies
with Web standards. See <http://www.mozilla.org/>.
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Roy Smith wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Big_Al wrote:
>> inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
>>> Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking
>>> for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to
>>> giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>>>
>>>
>>> JimL
>>>
>>> --- Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>>>
>>> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
>>> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully
>>> refunded.
>>> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
>> I think this was hashed over in the Thunderbird group.
>>
>> Thunderbird does all this. If you so mark the group to work off line
>> and download all data.
>>
>> And the default is not 'peeking' at a server, you are downloading
>> headers (subject) and refraining from downloading the message body till
>> you want or need to. For bandwidth its the preferred way. But
>> again, you can change Thunderbird to fit your desires. Couldn't find
>> it in OE however.
>
> It's available in OE too, just not easy to set up as Thunderbird though.
> Just click on the Newsgroup server in the folders pane to highlight it
> and in the message view pane it'll list all the subscribed newsgroup
> topics. Then just click on one of the topics and click on the setting
> button at the top. Gives you a choice of:
>
> All Messages
> New Messages
> Headers Only
>
> Biggest problem is that you can't highlight more than one message area
> and change them all at once, you have to do it one at a time. Then you
> can add a Synchronize Now button on your tool bar to have OE suck down
> all the newsgroup postings as well as email.
>
You're right, I probably would not have found that. :-)
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:30:12 -0400, inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
There is unlikely to be any "most people" favorite. You can use
Outlook Express, and there are many other choices, some of which are
free and some of which you have to buy. I use Agent myself.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Big_Al <BigAl[ at ]md.com> said:
[Quoted Text] >inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
>> Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>>
>>
>> JimL
>>
>> ---
>> Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>>
>> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
>> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully refunded.
>> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
>I think this was hashed over in the Thunderbird group.
Yup.
>Thunderbird does all this.
Nope. Not a single soul has told me how to delete a single news article or my choice of news articles. You can copy them, but you can't move them. TB handles files ONLY by wholesale methods (delete a big pile of articles within so many days) . My search for a news reader that genuinely manages files (move message "a" to folder "q" for instance) starts way beyond TB.
Switch from email to news and a whole row of tool bar icons are greyed out instantly. That is simple, incontrovertible fact. I'm flabbergasted that people deny it. Talking on and on about how a series of various work arounds can get you remotely close to this or that feature... ludicrous.
Show me how a = simple click of an icon will make a single news article (and its indexing) disappear forever (as it does in email) and I'll shut up. All I want is to have email type features available in news. Saying they are available means you've had too much peyote.
JimL
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Thanks. It seems that I can't even get OE from Windows Components now. Something stupid I did, no doubt.
"Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> said:
[Quoted Text]
JimL
---
Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully refunded.
3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
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Big_Al <BigAl[ at ]md.com> said:
[Quoted Text] >> Biggest problem is that you can't highlight more than one message area
>> and change them all at once, you have to do it one at a time. Then you
>> can add a Synchronize Now button on your tool bar to have OE suck down
>> all the newsgroup postings as well as email.
>>
>You're right, I probably would not have found that. :-)
Since you insisted on coming over from the TB site and declaring that I shouldn't want something other than TB, you might also have said that over there I clearly said I want file management capabilities {descrete file management capabilities) that TB does NOT have.
The very comment above about being unable to highlight more than one message at a time regards something I would have added - the needed descrete file management capabilities.
That is to say, I'm looking precisely to be able to do something with ONE MESSAGE AT A TIME. From day one, I've asked how to delete a single news article from my computer. The first reply declared that you can't delete news articles from the SERVER - a totally unrelated issue. Other replies declared how easily you could get TB to delete huge piles of news articles, some day, in a general attrition process. Again, totally unrelated to my need to delete this article or that article, but not piles of them at once.
You have made it very clear that you love TB to death. You have made it clear you think I should love TB to death. I have much greater appreciation for the replies I've gotten that answer my question - what OTHER news programs people HERE (not at the Thunderbird site) might use. Insisting, in essence, that I'm out of my mind for wanting something you don't want and that I shouldn't want what I want is impertinent in this thread.
I asked what people here use. Why can't you just let people here answer.
My apologies to any moderators here. But I was not the one who turned my simple question into a circus.
JimL
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> said:
[Quoted Text] >On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:30:12 -0400, inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
>> Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>There is unlikely to be any "most people" favorite.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at that.
>You can use Outlook Express,
Actually I don't seem to be able to even get that going. I've had it tell me it had installed OE (more than once), but I can't find it anywhere. More specifically I can't find it via the Start menu as the installer said I should.
>and there are many other choices, some of which are free and
>some of which you have to buy. I use Agent myself.
Are all versions of Agent a combination of both email and newsreader? Or are there some versions that are for news only? I like Thunderbirds email handling. But of course I could convert my email again and scratch Thunderbird completely - if Agent is that good.
Thanks
JimL
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:58:53 -0400, inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> said:
>
> >and there are many other choices, some of which are free and
> >some of which you have to buy. I use Agent myself.
>
> Are all versions of Agent a combination of both email and
> newsreader?
The current version is 4.2, and yes, it does both E-mail and news. I
don't know enough about previous versions to answer your question.
A new version, 5.0 is due out soon.
> Or are there some versions that are for news
> only?
Not that I know of, but as I said, I don't know for sure about older
versions.
Personally, I use Agent as a newsreader only, and don't use its E-mail
capabilities. Since I'm happy with Microsoft Outlook for E-mail, I
haven't even tried Agent's E-mail capabilities.
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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:58:53 -0400, inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> said:
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:30:12 -0400, inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
>
> >> Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>
>
> >There is unlikely to be any "most people" favorite.
>
> I guess I shouldn't be surprised at that.
>
> >You can use Outlook Express,
>
> Actually I don't seem to be able to even get that going.
> I've had it tell me it had installed OE (more than once),
> but I can't find it anywhere. More specifically I can't
> find it via the Start menu as the installer said I should.
Just run it by typing and executing the name of its executable file:
msimn.exe
If you like it and want to continue using it, you can put a shortcut
to that file name on the desktop, or even on the start menu, if you
want it there.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Is there a news group reader that most people here use? I'm looking for one that actually downloads news article files as opposed to giving you a peek at a distant server while online.
>
>
> JimL
>
> ---
> Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease:
>
> 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches.
> 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully refunded.
> 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
I use Thunderbird and Agent(paid version)for binaries.
Below is a link to a list of different newsreaders.
http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html
gls858
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inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Big_Al <BigAl[ at ]md.com> said:
>
>
>
>>> Biggest problem is that you can't highlight more than one message area
>>> and change them all at once, you have to do it one at a time. Then you
>>> can add a Synchronize Now button on your tool bar to have OE suck down
>>> all the newsgroup postings as well as email.
>>>
>
>> You're right, I probably would not have found that. :-)
>
> Since you insisted on coming over from the TB site and declaring that I shouldn't want something other than TB, you might also have said that over there I clearly said I want file management capabilities {descrete file management capabilities) that TB does NOT have.
>
> The very comment above about being unable to highlight more than one message at a time regards something I would have added - the needed descrete file management capabilities.
>
> That is to say, I'm looking precisely to be able to do something with ONE MESSAGE AT A TIME. From day one, I've asked how to delete a single news article from my computer. The first reply declared that you can't delete news articles from the SERVER - a totally unrelated issue. Other replies declared how easily you could get TB to delete huge piles of news articles, some day, in a general attrition process. Again, totally unrelated to my need to delete this article or that article, but not piles of them at once.
>
> You have made it very clear that you love TB to death. You have made it clear you think I should love TB to death. I have much greater appreciation for the replies I've gotten that answer my question - what OTHER news programs people HERE (not at the Thunderbird site) might use. Insisting, in essence, that I'm out of my mind for wanting something you don't want and that I shouldn't want what I want is impertinent in this thread.
>
> I asked what people here use. Why can't you just let people here answer.
>
> My apologies to any moderators here. But I was not the one who turned my simple question into a circus.
>
> JimL
>
> ---
>
Before you flame someone you might check your facts. I never said
anything about "highlighting" anything. That was a reply from Roy
Smith about OE and how to do it there.
And I didn't come over from TB. I read several groups and I read the
question there and here both. You didn't cross post.
And 3rd, the is a public group. If you post a message you will get all
sorts of responses. Its a fact of life. Get used to it. Take them
with a grain of salt.
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If you scroll down the list of Windows Components is Outlook Express
listed or missing? If there you check the box and click on Next etc,
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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inkleputDEL[ at ]ETEisp.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Thanks. It seems that I can't even get OE from Windows Components > now. Something stupid I did, no doubt. > > "Gerry" <gerry[ at ]nospam.com> said: > >> Outlook Express? >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm> > > > > JimL > > --- > Medical cure for Golden Parachute Disease: > > 1. Devise oak board 1 inch by 6 inches by 30 inches. > 2. Apply to side of GP recipient's head daily until GP is fully > refunded. > 3. When oak board cannot be located a baseball bat will do nicely.
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