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Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/24/2008 11:24:45 PM
Hi, I hope this is in the right place, apologies if not though. My problem is this: Today I tried to install a new Mouse, a Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0 but I got into a pickle and now I am at my wits end, I installed the software for it from its disk, but then unistalled it remembering the chap that built my PC saying "Never install the software off the disk as the OS will install the drivers for it" do I listen = No So then after I had uninstalled it I tried to reboot, but Vista had to be awkward and gave me the ntoskrnl is missing or corrupt, not only that but my keyboard does not respond in Vista (thank heavens it does on this HD XP!) and also my mouse won't respond either on Vista, so I have no idea how I can fix it, as I cannot type anything or click on any options. Please can anyone help me :confused: Many thanks in advance Jekyll and Hyde -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/24/2008 11:45:55 PM

"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi,
>
> I hope this is in the right place, apologies if not though.
>
> My problem is this:
>
> Today I tried to install a new Mouse, a Wireless Intellimouse Explorer
> 2.0 but I got into a pickle and now I am at my wits end, I installed the
> software for it from its disk, but then unistalled it remembering the
> chap that built my PC saying "Never install the software off the disk as
> the OS will install the drivers for it" do I listen = No
>
> So then after I had uninstalled it I tried to reboot, but Vista had to
> be awkward and gave me the ntoskrnl is missing or corrupt, not only that
> but my keyboard does not respond in Vista (thank heavens it does on this
> HD XP!) and also my mouse won't respond either on Vista, so I have no
> idea how I can fix it, as I cannot type anything or click on any
> options.
>
> Please can anyone help me :confused:
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> Jekyll and Hyde
>



Can you boot to safe mode?
if so you can perform a system restore


Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/25/2008 8:57:24 AM
I can but like I have said my keyboard and mouse do not respond, so what is the point? I can't click on anything or highlight an option via the keyboard! Even my old working mouse does not work on the Vista HD but does on this one my XP HD -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/25/2008 9:45:26 AM

"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:f2a374225cefc8055435e5646c2f43c4[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> I can but like I have said my keyboard and mouse do not respond, so what
> is the point? I can't click on anything or highlight an option via the
> keyboard!
>
> Even my old working mouse does not work on the Vista HD but does on
> this one my XP HD
>



When I asked if you could boot to safe mode,
the implication was:

can you boot *normally* to safe mode


anyway, by your answer I see that the KB works prior to the OS loading

so next time when you boot up

hit F8 but try "last known good configuration"

rather than safe mode


If that does not work, you will need to take the repair option


Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/25/2008 11:56:35 AM
Sorry, I did'nt mean to sound so rude, I am just in such a state that I am taking it out on you and I am wrong to do so, please accept my apology. OK I can rebbot into safe mode yes, I have since connected an old keyboard and a mouse and tried it again, but the only thing that responded was the keyboard, but anyway, I have since decided to format as I can't do anything else, but when I tried to do a repair first as you said it still came up with that ntoskrnl error, so a format is all that is left I think, but I hate to do it (don't we all?) but There is now a probelm with formatting as I put the Vista disk in and rebooted but it comes up with the Install Vista screen, I thought ok I'll go a little further in clicking the options for keyboard language etc, thinking that it might then say Vista is already installed and then give me options of formatting, but it did'nt, so now I am stuffed as I don't know where to go from here -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/25/2008 12:56:14 PM

"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:b34424acc9ee6897aa8a0516e18f077f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Sorry, I did'nt mean to sound so rude, I am just in such a state that I
> am taking it out on you and I am wrong to do so, please accept my
> apology.
>
> OK I can rebbot into safe mode yes, I have since connected an old
> keyboard and a mouse and tried it again, but the only thing that
> responded was the keyboard, but anyway, I have since decided to format
> as I can't do anything else, but when I tried to do a repair first as
> you said it still came up with that ntoskrnl error, so a format is all
> that is left I think, but I hate to do it (don't we all?) but
>
> There is now a probelm with formatting as I put the Vista disk in and
> rebooted but it comes up with the Install Vista screen, I thought ok
> I'll go a little further in clicking the options for keyboard language
> etc, thinking that it might then say Vista is already installed and then
> give me options of formatting, but it did'nt, so now I am stuffed as I
> don't know where to go from here
>


What do you mean???

did the installer fail or freeze on you...

if so there may be some H/W problem.


I'd run a RAM test before going further just as a precaution.

Though Vista does have a RAM tester,
you can also look here

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp


Re: Can't boot Vista
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 10/25/2008 1:30:52 PM
Do you have USB flash drive installed if so try booting with it removed.
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> "Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:b34424acc9ee6897aa8a0516e18f077f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Sorry, I did'nt mean to sound so rude, I am just in such a state that I
>> am taking it out on you and I am wrong to do so, please accept my
>> apology.
>>
>> OK I can rebbot into safe mode yes, I have since connected an old
>> keyboard and a mouse and tried it again, but the only thing that
>> responded was the keyboard, but anyway, I have since decided to format
>> as I can't do anything else, but when I tried to do a repair first as
>> you said it still came up with that ntoskrnl error, so a format is all
>> that is left I think, but I hate to do it (don't we all?) but
>>
>> There is now a probelm with formatting as I put the Vista disk in and
>> rebooted but it comes up with the Install Vista screen, I thought ok
>> I'll go a little further in clicking the options for keyboard language
>> etc, thinking that it might then say Vista is already installed and then
>> give me options of formatting, but it did'nt, so now I am stuffed as I
>> don't know where to go from here
>>
>
>
> What do you mean???
>
> did the installer fail or freeze on you...
>
> if so there may be some H/W problem.
>
>
> I'd run a RAM test before going further just as a precaution.
>
> Though Vista does have a RAM tester,
> you can also look here
>
> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
>
>

Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/25/2008 1:58:11 PM
Ok you can scrap what I said above, I now have a new install of Vista, don't ask me how though, I just followed things that come up and finally got a screen up that had the disk on it and below it had things like delete, format, new etc......I chose format and it did that but now on booting up I get BOOTMGR missing, I am yet to reboot again, but I then found a screen that had several options, command prompt, fix, repair and a few others, I asked it to repair and rebooted and then got a screen asking me what os to boot and then 23 seconds to make my choice, I chose Vista and here I am, but I expect to get the same on the next reboot. Sorry if I can't explain things, only I have mental issues and find this all very hard going Jekyll -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/25/2008 2:07:08 PM
You should be able to format via the Vista DVD; you just need to click on
the drive options. See this link from my website:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/format_partition_using_vista_dvd.htm

For a better 'visual' view of the desired screen take a look at the
screenshot above step 14 in this link from my website:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_vista.htm


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"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Sorry, I did'nt mean to sound so rude, I am just in such a state that I
> am taking it out on you and I am wrong to do so, please accept my
> apology.
>
> OK I can rebbot into safe mode yes, I have since connected an old
> keyboard and a mouse and tried it again, but the only thing that
> responded was the keyboard, but anyway, I have since decided to format
> as I can't do anything else, but when I tried to do a repair first as
> you said it still came up with that ntoskrnl error, so a format is all
> that is left I think, but I hate to do it (don't we all?) but
>
> There is now a probelm with formatting as I put the Vista disk in and
> rebooted but it comes up with the Install Vista screen, I thought ok
> I'll go a little further in clicking the options for keyboard language
> etc, thinking that it might then say Vista is already installed and then
> give me options of formatting, but it did'nt, so now I am stuffed as I
> don't know where to go from here
>
>
> --
> Jekyll and Hyde

Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/25/2008 2:26:05 PM
Thank you John, I shall take a look, before I saw your post I searched via google for the bootmgr error and found a site telling me to type into the command prompt xcopy /h bootmgr and then the drive I want to put it on, but I typed C as that is the drive I want to use but it said that you cannot copy files on top, so in a vain attempt I chose D and then it said 1 file copied....... Oh well off to your site now I'll get there in the end I hope Jekyll :) -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/25/2008 2:29:17 PM
Actually John I have done this and am in Vista now, but each time I reboot I get bootmgr is missing -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/25/2008 2:38:38 PM

"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Actually John I have done this and am in Vista now, but each time I
> reboot I get bootmgr is missing
>
>




http://lifehacker.com/software/troubleshooting/vista-tip--repair-bootmgr-is-missing-error-251733.php


Re: Can't boot Vista
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/25/2008 3:30:40 PM
The repair option (from the DVD) should solve this problem. If it doesn't
then you might like to take a look here:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2359949&SiteID=17

In particular look at the post by Tim Quan MSFT for a detail solution.


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"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Actually John I have done this and am in Vista now, but each time I
> reboot I get bootmgr is missing
>
>
> --
> Jekyll and Hyde

Re: Can't boot Vista
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/25/2008 3:42:01 PM
If you are being asked to choose which operating system then you have two
copies of Vista installed, obviously one on partition C: and One on D:

What you needed to do was run the Vista DVD until you get to the part where
you can choose the drive options (in other words to format). You then need
to select the C: drive (which contains your current copy of vista) and
select format. Once formatted Vista should install on the C: drive.

If you have an USB hardware connected, (printers etc) it is best to remove
them prior to trying to re-install. I don't have any problems with USB
peripherals being connected when I've re-installed, but some people do get
problem, so it is better to be save than sorry.

For installing vista you would do better to study the link I provided on my
website 'install windows vista' The illustrations will help you.


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"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Ok you can scrap what I said above, I now have a new install of Vista,
> don't ask me how though, I just followed things that come up and finally
> got a screen up that had the disk on it and below it had things like
> delete, format, new etc......I chose format and it did that but now on
> booting up I get BOOTMGR missing, I am yet to reboot again, but I then
> found a screen that had several options, command prompt, fix, repair and
> a few others, I asked it to repair and rebooted and then got a screen
> asking me what os to boot and then 23 seconds to make my choice, I chose
> Vista and here I am, but I expect to get the same on the next reboot.
>
> Sorry if I can't explain things, only I have mental issues and find
> this all very hard going
>
> Jekyll
>
>
> --
> Jekyll and Hyde

Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/25/2008 7:15:37 PM
Right, all done and correct for now, what I had to do was unplug another HD it was meant only to be a storage drive, but Vista was installing some of the boot files onto that disk, and therefore I was getting this bootmgr missing error. So I now have to make do with my 500 gig Barracuda for Vista and have not storage drive, damn nuisance this but it has to be done, I can do without the hassle, it was not my fault either having that storage drive in as the guy that built my system made it like that, and I don't think he is/was even aware that it was causing problems for me. Thanks to you all for your help.........:) Anyway problem is now sorted so I can now go update and install my games again. -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/26/2008 1:07:24 PM
I'm glad you got it sorted. Although, I must say that I had two drives in my
old machine and never had that problem when installing Vista.


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"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Right, all done and correct for now, what I had to do was unplug another
> HD it was meant only to be a storage drive, but Vista was installing
> some of the boot files onto that disk, and therefore I was getting this
> bootmgr missing error.
>
> So I now have to make do with my 500 gig Barracuda for Vista and have
> not storage drive, damn nuisance this but it has to be done, I can do
> without the hassle, it was not my fault either having that storage drive
> in as the guy that built my system made it like that, and I don't think
> he is/was even aware that it was causing problems for me.
>
> Thanks to you all for your help.........:)
>
> Anyway problem is now sorted so I can now go update and install my
> games again.
>
>
> --
> Jekyll and Hyde

Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 8:18:37 PM
Its is odd I know, but I can put it back but I am very weary of doing this incase I get more trouble........I know I should'nt do but computers will be computers and if you don't know what you are doing its a minefield, and for me I fit in that category sadly. When I looked at the connection of that HD it had a ribbon cable attached to it and the other end was attached to the motherboard I think, but I removed that and also the little plug that was normally attached to it, but now I must resort to burning stuff to disks instead and I have a very small room and have enough disks already of games and DVD's......I'd like to have that HD back on but like I say I am very very nervous of doing it all wrong, and as this is my only PC I would not have anything to fall back on if it went belly up. Jekyll ;) -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"Curious" <mailmenot[ at ]nomail.com> 10/26/2008 8:40:40 PM
Hard drives have two connections a signal cable connected to the MOBO (or
MOBO mounted controller card) and a power cable connected to the power
supply. They both must be present for the drive to work.
"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> Its is odd I know, but I can put it back but I am very weary of doing
> this incase I get more trouble........I know I should'nt do but
> computers will be computers and if you don't know what you are doing its
> a minefield, and for me I fit in that category sadly.
>
> When I looked at the connection of that HD it had a ribbon cable
> attached to it and the other end was attached to the motherboard I
> think, but I removed that and also the little plug that was normally
> attached to it, but now I must resort to burning stuff to disks instead
> and I have a very small room and have enough disks already of games and
> DVD's......I'd like to have that HD back on but like I say I am very
> very nervous of doing it all wrong, and as this is my only PC I would
> not have anything to fall back on if it went belly up.
>
> Jekyll ;)
>
>
> --
> Jekyll and Hyde

Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 9:44:31 PM
I thought as much, but as I said before I am very weary of doing this as that is what appears to be giving me trouble, the ribbon cable bit, but with me for some very odd reason Vista when being installed puts some of the boot files on the Vista Drive and the other/s on the other HD and then when booting I was getting the BOOTMGR file missing or corupt. But I have to be sensible and not try and mess with it as I really don't trust myself and would hate to have to format again due to things going wrong, as it stands now my Vista drive, the one I am at this moment using is fine and I want to keep it like that :D Its not that I don't trust anyone here to guide me, because you guys know your stuff, but I am thick with these things and don't understand easy, but I can't be alone. -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
"John Barnett MVP" <freelance[ at ]invalid.invalid> 10/26/2008 10:02:04 PM
You are certainly not alone and, sadly, with your limited knowledge of
computers your only option would be to get a repair shop to install it again
for you.

Not that it is hard to do, but many people on these newsgroups can do it in
their sleep whereas, for those that lack the knowledge, the procedure is
more daunting.

I actually learnt to install a hard drive many years ago. My hard drive
failed and, in those days, you got a service engineer visit you at home/work
to repair the problem. Along came the engineer and installed the hard drive
and I watch him very closely (he didn't seem to mind). At the end he said,
if this hard drive hadn't have been under warranty you would have had to pay
me £98 labour to put it in, plus the price of the hard drive.


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"Jekyll and Hyde" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
>
> I thought as much, but as I said before I am very weary of doing this as
> that is what appears to be giving me trouble, the ribbon cable bit, but
> with me for some very odd reason Vista when being installed puts some of
> the boot files on the Vista Drive and the other/s on the other HD and
> then when booting I was getting the BOOTMGR file missing or corupt.
>
> But I have to be sensible and not try and mess with it as I really
> don't trust myself and would hate to have to format again due to things
> going wrong, as it stands now my Vista drive, the one I am at this
> moment using is fine and I want to keep it like that :D
>
> Its not that I don't trust anyone here to guide me, because you guys
> know your stuff, but I am thick with these things and don't understand
> easy, but I can't be alone.
>
>
> --
> Jekyll and Hyde

Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 10:40:51 PM
Well the chap that built my PC is actually retiring soon (he's still a young chap) but he is off to live in Italy in about 5/6 years time and when he goes I am well and truly stuffed as there is no-one else in my Town that I would trust to do it, yes there are guys that advertise in the papers, but where I live and for alot of other people you tend to get ripped off and as I am very ill and can no longer work, I have to take chances and as its just me and my 74 year old Mum left (she won't like me saying that!!) lol it gets ridiculous, and knowing who to trust is very hard. That said I bought a new HD once and the guy said to me rather than me do it and have to charge you labour aswell do you want to try it, and he explained it to me with a little diagram too, so I got home, did it and then booted (it was a 80 gig HD if I remember rightly) look at the size of them now!!! suffice to say that I noticed that 80 gig was not showing up and it said 40 gig?!?!?!? alarm bells started ringing and I immediately went back to his store and he had it in the next day, brought it back that night and told me that I had wiped half the amount of gigs off of it by connecting it wrongly. Forgive me if I am in anyway out a bit with my stats as it was a long time ago, I might have known I could'nt do it, and should have left it to the expert!! I know better now, just wish he would'nt retire!! :cry: -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 10:54:53 PM
Hi Jekyl and Hyde. You are right when you say Vista installs some files to your second drive. This is because your system is seeing your storage drive as your primary drive drive due to connection configuration. Now you have installed Vista with only one drive you can quite happily connect the second drive back. Vista won't store any system files on it. To protect yourself against any further problems you could also go into the Storage Drives properties [Start] [Control Panel] [System & Maintenance] [Device Manager] [Disk Drives] [storage Disk] [Properties] [Policies] and disable Write Caching to the Disk. -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 11:11:04 PM
Hi NormCameron, Come to think of it, when I was trying to repair the installation and got different screens coming up, when I got one showing my drives, it showed both the storage drive and the one I wanted Vista on as being Primary so now it all makes sense to me, after what you said about the Primary drive. Thing is I know I took the ribbon cable out and roughly know how to put it back, the only problem is that the motherboard part I have to get it connected to is so difficult to reach I am nervous of disturbing something else, you almost have to be a contortionist to get it plugged in!!! lol But it is good to know that it would be ok and Vista would leave it alone, one other thing I remember from before and that is that when Vista was working before this little episode, I always had to go into the Bios and use the page up key to tell the system to boot up the bigger drive, won't that happen again? I know you said that Vista won't put any files on it, but I am not sure why that happened before. I will have to get my head down shortly for a good nights sleep and see if I am brave enough to go in tomorrow and do this, as when you are a gamer like me and have alot of stuff to install a 500 Gig HD does not take long to fill up and until I get that drive back in I am having to store downloads on it too, so 500 gigs quickly becomes 100 gigs and lower Jekyll :D -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 11:18:16 PM
I'd say the problem is that your storage drive is the Logical C drive. My advice would be to get somebody with some expertise to reconnect them for you. It shouldn't cost much and the money you save doing it yourself you may well have to put towards buying some new bits, if not a whole new Motherboard. The best advice is that if you are not sure how to, don't! It doesn't take much to zap something. -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/26/2008 11:50:01 PM
Yep for once I am going to take advice given and leave well alone, "if it is'nt broke then don't fix it" as the saying goes :D I'll have to wait on getting it done though as I am totally skint and will need to wait, but I do have some large mods on my HD and yet the disks I have that I can burn stuff to are to small, I don't get it, are there disks that are bigger than 700MB? sorry to go off topic a bit, but it is important as otherwise I'll have to leave my HD clogged up. Many thanks to you all Jekyll and Hyde ;) -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 12:01:22 AM
You can get 1 Terabyte Disks. A better option is 2 smaller SATa Drives or an external hard drive. -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 12:20:14 AM
I understand the first bit, but I won't pretend to understand the second part, but no matter what the choice, I still have to wait for the coffers to fill up and that will take quite awhile, but for now I must make do, and I am happy to do so :D Thank you Jekyll ;) -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 12:25:27 AM
2 750gb drives can be found cheaper than a 1terrabyte drive. Sata drives use a different connection and and generally do not need to have a jumper switch made. Incidently, I assumed you were using IDE drives, and forgot to ask had you switched the jumper at the rear of the drive to Master for your C drive and Slave for your storage? -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 8:26:23 AM
I know vaquely what a jumper is, but have not looked as I would'nt know if it is right or wrong. -- Jekyll and Hyde
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 8:52:16 AM
The jumpers are on the back of the hard drive. IDE/ATA Cable 7558 Serial ATA Cable (SATA) 7559 Settings for Seagate 7555 Settings for Maxtor 7556 Take a look here. 'Seagate Technology - ATA Jumper Settings' (http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=ata_jumper_settings&vgnextoid=cbc974850ce0e010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD) +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Filename: sata_cable.jpg | |Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7559 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 8:56:29 AM
I'm popping out today for a short while, but when I return I may have the side off, purely to have a look as thanks to your diagram I know what to look for on both HD's by looking at the Jumpers, and I am expecting to see that both have the jumper fitted as the "Master" and the storage drive should have been setup as Slave, that much I now understand. Thank you :D -- Jekyll and Hyde [image: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/BlueGlow/General%20Stuff/smscruffydsbanner1.jpg] '*Website*' (http://jekyllandhyde.informe.com/portal.html)
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 12:12:30 PM
Just had more trouble and had to format again, all courtesy of installing a game that had Starforce on it and it said I needed to reboot, which I did and then bang! a load of stuff I did not understand and after a couple of screens it said I need to insert the Vista disk and chose repair, I did this but it then said it cannot repair it, so a format was all that was left, I am now nervous about the activation as I hate using the phone, I am no good on the phone and having to explain all this is a major task for me, I know why it has to be done, but it does'nt mean I am happy with it. Why oh why has this happened again? I did all the updates including service pack 1 and then this happens, I am so stressed right now :( So now I must begin again ho-hum! Jekyll -- Jekyll and Hyde [image: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/BlueGlow/General%20Stuff/smscruffydsbanner1.jpg] '*Website*' (http://jekyllandhyde.informe.com/portal.html)
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 12:28:25 PM
Hi chris, you can activate via the internet, a relatively painless process. What game did you install? What happened? I do know that Starforce is not a popular form of copy protection with users because it can do weird things to your system and is almost impossible to remove. -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 1:26:28 PM
Hi Norm, The game was Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood, (probably my own stupid fault) as that game does not work on Vista normally, but I found a method of getting it to work on the official forums and it someone had put up a zip file with three files in and you double click a bat file and it then copies the files from the DVD to your computer rather than running the automatic install for the game. Then you are able to play the game but only if you have the Road to Hill 30 disk which I have, I'm a big fan of those games, but something went horribly wrong :( I am yet to try to activate over the net, but I am not sure if my number of installs is over the limit, in which case it will tell me to phone Microsoft, or does this not happen now? would be good if that has stopped, but if it has to be then so be it, worse luck lol Chris -- Jekyll and Hyde [image: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/BlueGlow/General%20Stuff/smscruffydsbanner1.jpg] '*Website*' (http://jekyllandhyde.informe.com/portal.html)
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 1:50:48 PM
I found this here. 'Brothers in Arms & Vista - Topic Powered by eve community' (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7961032962/m/1991086685) "Earned In Blood will install and run with Vista (32-bit) if you have Vista Service Pack 1 and the Starforce Vista update installed on your PC. Download and install Vista SP1 ('SP1 Link' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935791/)); re-start your PC; install BIA: Earned In Blood; download and install the Starforce Vista update ('SFUPDATE Link' (http://www.star-force.com/support/drivers/)); install the latest game patches; re-start your PC and then go fishing or something. Note: You may need to right-click on the game launch icon and select "Run As Administrator" if the game will not start otherwise." The trick is I believe, not to restart vista until you have downloaded the Vista update for Starforce. As I have said Starforce is a nasty little critter I wouln;t want on my computer, but many people do have it. -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 2:07:35 PM
Many thanks Norm, Only thing is I have 64-Bit Vista, does that mean its a no go? and go fishing eh, yes I go fishing, fishing for trouble!! lol -- Jekyll and Hyde [image: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/BlueGlow/General%20Stuff/smscruffydsbanner1.jpg] '*Website*' (http://jekyllandhyde.informe.com/portal.html)
Re: Can't boot Vista
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 10:21:11 PM
:D:DI'd suggest you find another game that works with Vista. Good you've resolved another problem. It gets easier doesn't it? Computers are very basic, they are linear and work off logic. A step by step logical approach is the best way to solve a computer problem. Cheers Chris:party::party: -- NormCameron
Re: Can't boot Vista
Jekyll and Hyde <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/27/2008 10:26:51 PM
Thanks Normcameron, I have plenty of games that work with Vista, far too many to mention, but FarCry2 is going in soon, to be installed and hopefully will take it for a spin tomorrow all being well. Chris :D -- Jekyll and Hyde [image: http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/BlueGlow/General%20Stuff/smscruffydsbanner1.jpg] '*Website*' (http://jekyllandhyde.informe.com/portal.html)

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