How to access denied folders Luis Ortega <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> 10/8/2008 9:14:58 PM I am pulling my hair out with this OS. I just got a new Dell laptop with Vista Home Premium. Since Dell doesn't provide drivers for win xp for it I am stuck with this OS. I am trying to organize it and set things up like I want but there are lots of folders in Windows Explorer that keep denying me access, even though I am the administrator. How the hell do I gain access to all the folders on my computer? This situation is completely unacceptable. I have already tried all the usual things that one could do in XP to allow access to system or hidden folders and files, but these denied folders aren't even important in many cases. Thanks a lot for any advice.

Re: How to access denied folders SCSIraidGURU <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/8/2008 9:34:12 PM take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with UAC. You really don't need access to them. -- SCSIraidGURU Michael A. McKenney 'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)

Re: How to access denied folders Luis Ortega <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> 10/8/2008 9:52:30 PM SCSIraidGURU wrote: [Quoted Text] > take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire > drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this > releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with > UAC. You really don't need access to them. > > Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? This is my first experience with Vista.

Re: How to access denied folders "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/8/2008 10:06:48 PM "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:yY9Hk.2160$zB7.1019[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... [Quoted Text] > SCSIraidGURU wrote: > > take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire > > drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this > > releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with > > UAC. You really don't need access to them. > > > > > Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? > This is my first experience with Vista. If you search Google there is plenty of info on how to take ownership... however before you do so... some of the folders are not even meant to be accessed: see this http://www.realtime-vista.com/general/2007/04/access_denied_to_documents_and.htm Personally I think it very confusing!!!!

RE: How to access denied folders PaulB 10/8/2008 10:40:45 PM Hi, There are some folders in Vista that are not real folders, such as "Documents and Settings". These are called junctions and are used to allow legacy programs to interface with Vista's folder/file system. They can not be accessed because they are not folders. -- Paul "Luis Ortega" wrote: [Quoted Text] > I am pulling my hair out with this OS. I just got a new Dell laptop with > Vista Home Premium. > Since Dell doesn't provide drivers for win xp for it I am stuck with > this OS. > I am trying to organize it and set things up like I want but there are > lots of folders in Windows Explorer that keep denying me access, even > though I am the administrator. > How the hell do I gain access to all the folders on my computer? > This situation is completely unacceptable. > I have already tried all the usual things that one could do in XP to > allow access to system or hidden folders and files, but these denied > folders aren't even important in many cases. > Thanks a lot for any advice. >

Re: How to access denied folders Luis Ortega <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> 10/8/2008 11:06:43 PM philo wrote: [Quoted Text] > "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:yY9Hk.2160$zB7.1019[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... >> SCSIraidGURU wrote: >>> take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire >>> drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this >>> releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with >>> UAC. You really don't need access to them. >>> >>> >> Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? >> This is my first experience with Vista. > > If you search Google there is plenty of info on how to take ownership... > however before you do so... > some of the folders are not even meant to be accessed: > > see this > > http://www.realtime-vista.com/general/2007/04/access_denied_to_documents_and.htm > > > Personally I think it very confusing!!!! > > Thanks. It certainly is confusing. There are multiple instance of folders all over windows explorer. I have been trying to allow access and have succeeded on some but I am just flying blind and have no idea if I am screwing everything up. Some folders continue to be unaccessible and some are now accessible, but I don't know in what order to be doing this or what the parent stuff is all about. I suspect that any moment now I will render the whole computer useless and will be forced to reformat and reinstall the OS from scratch. That may be just as well, since I need to learn how to use this thing and I don't have a clue. Usually installing an OS is the first step in learning how it works. I am very familiar with xp and with building computers but this vista is just very weird. I wish that I could install xp on it but apparently there aren't any xp drivers for this laptop's devices. It's a new Dell Studio 1535. The hardware itself is nice but the OS is crap.

Re: How to access denied folders "Leo" <ldontwant[ at ]anymail.com> 10/8/2008 11:37:06 PM Step by step instruction on how to take ownership of a folder Run CMD (as administrator) and type: takeown [path] /f <filename or folder> OR - Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties - Click Security Tab - Click Advanced - Click the Owner Tab - Click Edit - Select the Administrators group from the list - Click OK - Click OK - Click OK You have now taken 'Ownership' of the file and you can close the property Windows Now again 1) Right-click on the file 2) Select Properties 3) Go to the Security tab again, click the Advanced button 4) Now Press Edit, then double-click 'Administrators' in the list and tick the 'allow' box for 'Full control' You have now taken 'Full control' of file -- Leo Forget world peace. Visualize using your turn signal. "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:yY9Hk.2160$zB7.1019[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... [Quoted Text] > SCSIraidGURU wrote: >> take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire >> drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this >> releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with >> UAC. You really don't need access to them. >> >> > Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? > This is my first experience with Vista.

Re: How to access denied folders "Leo" <ldontwant[ at ]anymail.com> 10/8/2008 11:38:47 PM Maybe this wwill help. Junctions in Vista Junctions (folders w/shortcut arrows) aren't actually folders but are pretty much shortcuts, to get old legacy stuff from where it was in XP to the new folders in Vista. In Vista all that stuff is in users drive:\Users\your name. Use a command prompt to see which folders are Junctions. Type dir /al to show just Junctions. Or a dir /a will work. -- Leo Forget world peace. Visualize using your turn signal. "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:72bHk.12139$I31.446[ at ]newsfe24.ams2... [Quoted Text] > philo wrote: >> "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message >> news:yY9Hk.2160$zB7.1019[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... >>> SCSIraidGURU wrote: >>>> take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire >>>> drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this >>>> releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with >>>> UAC. You really don't need access to them. >>>> >>>> >>> Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? >>> This is my first experience with Vista. >> >> If you search Google there is plenty of info on how to take ownership... >> however before you do so... >> some of the folders are not even meant to be accessed: >> >> see this >> >> http://www.realtime-vista.com/general/2007/04/access_denied_to_documents_and.htm >> >> >> Personally I think it very confusing!!!! >> >> > Thanks. It certainly is confusing. > There are multiple instance of folders all over windows explorer. > I have been trying to allow access and have succeeded on some but I am just > flying blind and have no idea if I am screwing everything up. > Some folders continue to be unaccessible and some are now accessible, but I > don't know in what order to be doing this or what the parent stuff is all > about. > I suspect that any moment now I will render the whole computer useless and > will be forced to reformat and reinstall the OS from scratch. > That may be just as well, since I need to learn how to use this thing and I > don't have a clue. Usually installing an OS is the first step in learning how > it works. > I am very familiar with xp and with building computers but this vista is just > very weird. > I wish that I could install xp on it but apparently there aren't any xp > drivers for this laptop's devices. It's a new Dell Studio 1535. The hardware > itself is nice but the OS is crap.

Re: How to access denied folders Luis Ortega <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> 10/8/2008 11:51:21 PM Leo wrote: [Quoted Text] > > Step by step instruction on how to take ownership of a folder > > > > Run CMD (as administrator) and type: takeown [path] /f <filename or > folder> > > OR > > - Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties > > - Click Security Tab > > - Click Advanced > > - Click the Owner Tab > > - Click Edit > > - Select the Administrators group from the list > > - Click OK > > - Click OK > > - Click OK > > You have now taken 'Ownership' of the file and you can close the property > > Windows > > > > Now again > > > > 1) Right-click on the file > > 2) Select Properties > > 3) Go to the Security tab again, click the Advanced button > > 4) Now Press Edit, then double-click 'Administrators' in the list and tick > > the 'allow' box for 'Full control' > > > > You have now taken 'Full control' of file > > Thanks, I will give this a try and see how it goes.

Re: How to access denied folders SIW2 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 10/9/2008 12:16:20 AM Luis Ortega;856223 Wrote: > Leo wrote:> > > > > > > > > Step by step instruction on how to take ownership of a folder > > > > > > Run CMD (as administrator) and type: takeown [path] /f <filename or > > > folder> > > >> OR > > >> - Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties > > >> - Click Security Tab > > >> - Click Advanced > > >>- Click the Owner Tab > > >> - Click Edit > > >> - Select the Administrators group from the list > > >> - Click OK > > >> - Click OK > > >> - Click OK > > >> You have now taken 'Ownership' of the file and you can close the > > property > > >> Windows > > > Now again > > > > > > 1) Right-click on the file > > > > > > 2) Select Properties > > > > > > 3) Go to the Security tab again, click the Advanced button > > > > > > 4) Now Press Edit, then double-click 'Administrators' in the list and > > tick > > > > > > the 'allow' box for 'Full control' > > > > > > You have now taken 'Full control' of file > > > > > > > > Thanks, I will give this a try and see how it goes. Hi Luis, You could just add it to your right click context menu with this .reg file http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/112795-context-menu-take-ownership.html Hope it helps SIW2 -- SIW2

Re: How to access denied folders Paul Montgomery <i.m.nonnymous[ at ]NOSPAMgmail.com> 10/9/2008 12:46:56 AM On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:16:20 -0500, SIW2 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote: [Quoted Text] >Hi Luis, > >You could just add it to your right click context menu with this .reg >file Or you can hold down the SHIFT key, right-click the folder and what you want is right there.

Re: How to access denied folders "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold[ at ]Arnold.com> 10/9/2008 12:56:25 AM "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:72bHk.12139$I31.446[ at ]newsfe24.ams2... [Quoted Text] > philo wrote: >> "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message >> news:yY9Hk.2160$zB7.1019[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... >>> SCSIraidGURU wrote: >>>> take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire >>>> drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if >>>> this >>>> releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with >>>> UAC. You really don't need access to them. >>>> >>>> >>> Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? >>> This is my first experience with Vista. >> >> If you search Google there is plenty of info on how to take ownership... >> however before you do so... >> some of the folders are not even meant to be accessed: >> >> see this >> >> http://www.realtime-vista.com/general/2007/04/access_denied_to_documents_and.htm >> >> >> Personally I think it very confusing!!!! >> >> > Thanks. It certainly is confusing. > There are multiple instance of folders all over windows explorer. > I have been trying to allow access and have succeeded on some but I am > just flying blind and have no idea if I am screwing everything up. > Some folders continue to be unaccessible and some are now accessible, but > I don't know in what order to be doing this or what the parent stuff is > all about. > I suspect that any moment now I will render the whole computer useless and > will be forced to reformat and reinstall the OS from scratch. > That may be just as well, since I need to learn how to use this thing and > I don't have a clue. Usually installing an OS is the first step in > learning how it works. > I am very familiar with xp and with building computers but this vista is > just very weird. > I wish that I could install xp on it but apparently there aren't any xp > drivers for this laptop's devices. It's a new Dell Studio 1535. The > hardware itself is nice but the OS is crap. http://www.nirmaltv.com/2008/07/11/how-to-take-ownership-of-files-and-folders-in-vista/ Vista is not XP, and you need to start learning how to use Vista. However, taking ownership of a <c>, folders and files in folders is no different than on XP. But, you can't take ownership of everything not on Vista like you could on XP. Some folders like Program Files, C:\Windows and registry keys etc etc have more protection applied to them then any previous version of the NT based O/S. Vista is not an open by default O/S like XP. Your out of the box user/admin account or any subsequent user/admin accounts are not user/admin accounts that have full admin access to everything, because those user/admin accounts don't inherit full admin rights from the built-in Administrator account like it does on XP, even with UAC disabled. This is the only user account on Vista that has full admin rights at all times that your Standard user(user/admin) account do not have the same rights. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/ <http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/vista/vista_administrator_activate.htm#Summary_of_Vista_Administrator_-_Super_User_(Hidden_Account)> You should read about the *benefits* of using that built-in Administrator account. And here is where that Administrator account might come into play, as an example. http://chrisbensen.blogspot.com/2007/02/com-registration-under-microsoft.html You should take the time to understand what is under the hood of Vista and how to use Vista, because it far out classes any previous version of the NT based O/S. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx http://news.softpedia.com/news/Admin-Approval-Mode-in-Windows-Vista-45312.shtml http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc138019.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc160882.aspx http://itsvista.com/2007/03/base-filtering-engine/ http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/wfp.mspx The key to Vista is to not install none Vista compliant software on Vista, like some solutions that are dedicated to run on the XP platform, because that is nothing but trouble on Vista as that can lead to other solutions and Vista itself to start aborting. http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/ There are more things under the hood of Vista that makes it different. You say you know XP. Then why can't you do the same with Vista.? However, you can disable things like UAC, run with the built-in Administrator account and shut down services, that will return you back to running on a malware bait O/S, just XP, with full admin rights as you run on the Internet wide open to attack, just like you did before.

Re: How to access denied folders "Bill Kearney" <wkearney99[ at ]hotmail.com> 10/9/2008 2:26:46 AM [Quoted Text] > Some folders continue to be unaccessible and some are now accessible, > but I don't know in what order to be doing this or what the parent stuff > is all about. What folders are you talking about? Post the paths. > I suspect that any moment now I will render the whole computer useless Yes, mucking about without knowing what you're doing tends to do that.

Re: How to access denied folders "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 10/9/2008 10:28:49 PM "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:72bHk.12139$I31.446[ at ]newsfe24.ams2... [Quoted Text] > philo wrote: > > "Luis Ortega" <lortega[ at ]ntlworld.com> wrote in message > > news:yY9Hk.2160$zB7.1019[ at ]newsfe29.ams2... > >> SCSIraidGURU wrote: > >>> take ownership of the folders. You could take ownership of the entire > >>> drive and all folders and subfolders. Try disabling UAC and see if this > >>> releases them. In Vista, disabled folders are usually protected with > >>> UAC. You really don't need access to them. > >>> > >>> > >> Thank you, but how does one take ownership of a drive or folder? > >> This is my first experience with Vista. > > > > If you search Google there is plenty of info on how to take ownership... > > however before you do so... > > some of the folders are not even meant to be accessed: > > > > see this > > > > http://www.realtime-vista.com/general/2007/04/access_denied_to_documents_and.htm > > > > > > Personally I think it very confusing!!!! > > > > > Thanks. It certainly is confusing. > There are multiple instance of folders all over windows explorer. > I have been trying to allow access and have succeeded on some but I am > just flying blind and have no idea if I am screwing everything up. > Some folders continue to be unaccessible and some are now accessible, > but I don't know in what order to be doing this or what the parent stuff > is all about. > I suspect that any moment now I will render the whole computer useless > and will be forced to reformat and reinstall the OS from scratch. > That may be just as well, since I need to learn how to use this thing > and I don't have a clue. Usually installing an OS is the first step in > learning how it works. > I am very familiar with xp and with building computers but this vista is > just very weird. > I wish that I could install xp on it but apparently there aren't any xp > drivers for this laptop's devices. It's a new Dell Studio 1535. The > hardware itself is nice but the OS is crap. I'd stick it out... again, some of the folders are not even 'real' folders...so as long as you can keep all your data in places where you can access if... I'd probably just keep things the way they are and get used to it. I personally am not a big Vista fan, but it's going to be around for a while... so I plan to slowly start using it... though I still mainly use Win2k !!!