Need 64-bit media Bob Cronin 11/30/2008 3:39:01 AM Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 licenses for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded both of them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied SP1 to all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but I don't have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I tried ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put in my ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it only offers me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? Thanks.

Re: Need 64-bit media "Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> 12/1/2008 6:43:02 PM Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One disk can be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 licenses > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded both > of > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied SP1 to > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but I > don't > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I tried > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put in my > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it only > offers > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? Thanks.

Re: Need 64-bit media Bob Cronin 12/1/2008 9:44:06 PM But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? Bob "Mark H" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One disk can > be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. > > "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 licenses > > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded both > > of > > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied SP1 to > > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but I > > don't > > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I tried > > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put in my > > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it only > > offers > > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? Thanks. >

Re: Need 64-bit media "Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> 12/1/2008 10:52:58 PM Two things: First, how old is your Anytime Upgrade? The original versions used an executable file to self-install the upgrade while running the current installation. The newer version installs from the disk they send you, but it is unknown to me if the PID is automatically entered, or you have to manually enter it at some point. Based on your original post, you already have the Ultimate PID which implies you probably have the newer version of Anytime Upgrade. When you get to the point of installing x64 Ultimate upgrade below, you will be running x64 version of Home Premium. Insert the installation DVD and when prompted, select install now. When asked for the PID, insert the PID you for Ultimate. An upgrade installation will proceed. All versions of Vista are on the same DVD for the same "bitness." The PID determines what gets installed. To move to x64 Ultimate you will have to do the following: Perform a clean install of Home Premium with the appropriate PID. Activate the installation. Perform the Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. You use the same disk to perform both installations. The Ultimate version you have is an Anytime Upgrade and expects Home Premium to be installed first. It won't work any other way. The PID you have for Home Premium and Ultimate will work on either x86 or x64 versions. "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CA2B3279-90DE-49C6-A6A3-BF7E3CABEB1F[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? > > Bob > > "Mark H" wrote: > >> Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One disk >> can >> be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. >> >> "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 >> > licenses >> > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded >> > both >> > of >> > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied SP1 >> > to >> > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but I >> > don't >> > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I >> > tried >> > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put in >> > my >> > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it only >> > offers >> > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? >> > Thanks. >>

Re: Need 64-bit media Bob Cronin 12/1/2008 11:35:01 PM Since I originally had one full Ultimate license, what if I ordered replacement media for that and then (after wiping the PC that has Ultimate derived from the Home Premium+Anytime Upgrade), used that DVD to install Ultimate (using the Ultimate PID that I got with the Anytime Upgrade)? Would that work? It just seems silly to have to re-install Home Premium and then re-apply the Anytime Upgrade. If I have an Ultimate PID (regardless of how it was derived), why can't I just install Ultimate from the get-go specifying that PID? It's the PID that proves I have the license, isn't it? I don't mean to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand exactly what I need to do before I wipe the PC (and at the same time, minimize the amount of work, I'm lazy ;-). Thanks very much for your help. Bob "Mark H" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Two things: > First, how old is your Anytime Upgrade? > The original versions used an executable file to self-install the upgrade > while running the current installation. > The newer version installs from the disk they send you, but it is unknown to > me if the PID is automatically entered, or you have to manually enter it at > some point. > Based on your original post, you already have the Ultimate PID which > implies you probably have the newer version of Anytime Upgrade. > When you get to the point of installing x64 Ultimate upgrade below, you > will be running x64 version of Home Premium. Insert the installation DVD and > when prompted, select install now. When asked for the PID, insert the PID > you for Ultimate. An upgrade installation will proceed. > > All versions of Vista are on the same DVD for the same "bitness." The PID > determines what gets installed. To move to x64 Ultimate you will have to do > the following: > Perform a clean install of Home Premium with the appropriate PID. > Activate the installation. > Perform the Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. > You use the same disk to perform both installations. > > The Ultimate version you have is an Anytime Upgrade and expects Home Premium > to be installed first. > It won't work any other way. > The PID you have for Home Premium and Ultimate will work on either x86 or > x64 versions. > > > "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CA2B3279-90DE-49C6-A6A3-BF7E3CABEB1F[ at ]microsoft.com... > > But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? > > > > Bob > > > > "Mark H" wrote: > > > >> Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One disk > >> can > >> be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. > >> > >> "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 > >> > licenses > >> > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded > >> > both > >> > of > >> > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied SP1 > >> > to > >> > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but I > >> > don't > >> > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I > >> > tried > >> > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put in > >> > my > >> > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it only > >> > offers > >> > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? > >> > Thanks. > >> >

Re: Need 64-bit media "Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> 12/2/2008 3:15:09 AM You missed the key element: the PID determines what is being installed. The PID for an Anytime Upgrade expects to find the version you are upgrading from already installed and activated. It will not work as a direct installation. (I've tried.) What you seem to be missing is that it is an UPGRADE license. And, MS designed the Anytime Upgrade to only work as an upgrade, unlike the retail upgrade version. Going to x64 requires a clean install. No way around this. Anytime Upgrade requires the "from" version installed and activated. Two installs required to get to Ultimate. The good news: Once you are done, you can make a full backup which can be restored at any future date in less than 20 minutes and will already be activated. "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9960D011-6141-4EAA-A0DF-5DD2C48A0CF2[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Since I originally had one full Ultimate license, what if I ordered > replacement media for that and then (after wiping the PC that has Ultimate > derived from the Home Premium+Anytime Upgrade), used that DVD to install > Ultimate (using the Ultimate PID that I got with the Anytime Upgrade)? > Would > that work? It just seems silly to have to re-install Home Premium and then > re-apply the Anytime Upgrade. If I have an Ultimate PID (regardless of how > it > was derived), why can't I just install Ultimate from the get-go specifying > that PID? It's the PID that proves I have the license, isn't it? I don't > mean > to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand exactly what I need to > do > before I wipe the PC (and at the same time, minimize the amount of work, > I'm > lazy ;-). > > Thanks very much for your help. > > Bob > > "Mark H" wrote: > >> Two things: >> First, how old is your Anytime Upgrade? >> The original versions used an executable file to self-install the upgrade >> while running the current installation. >> The newer version installs from the disk they send you, but it is unknown >> to >> me if the PID is automatically entered, or you have to manually enter it >> at >> some point. >> Based on your original post, you already have the Ultimate PID which >> implies you probably have the newer version of Anytime Upgrade. >> When you get to the point of installing x64 Ultimate upgrade below, you >> will be running x64 version of Home Premium. Insert the installation DVD >> and >> when prompted, select install now. When asked for the PID, insert the PID >> you for Ultimate. An upgrade installation will proceed. >> >> All versions of Vista are on the same DVD for the same "bitness." The PID >> determines what gets installed. To move to x64 Ultimate you will have to >> do >> the following: >> Perform a clean install of Home Premium with the appropriate PID. >> Activate the installation. >> Perform the Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. >> You use the same disk to perform both installations. >> >> The Ultimate version you have is an Anytime Upgrade and expects Home >> Premium >> to be installed first. >> It won't work any other way. >> The PID you have for Home Premium and Ultimate will work on either x86 or >> x64 versions. >> >> >> "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:CA2B3279-90DE-49C6-A6A3-BF7E3CABEB1F[ at ]microsoft.com... >> > But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > "Mark H" wrote: >> > >> >> Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One >> >> disk >> >> can >> >> be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. >> >> >> >> "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... >> >> > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 >> >> > licenses >> >> > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded >> >> > both >> >> > of >> >> > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied >> >> > SP1 >> >> > to >> >> > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but >> >> > I >> >> > don't >> >> > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I >> >> > tried >> >> > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put >> >> > in >> >> > my >> >> > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it >> >> > only >> >> > offers >> >> > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? >> >> > Thanks. >> >> >>

Re: Need 64-bit media Bob Cronin 12/2/2008 3:35:02 AM Thank you, I think I have it straight now. Here's my plan: 1. I used my original 64-bit Ultimate DVD today along with VLite to create a new 64-bit DVD with SP1 integrated (since I could not find a way to get MS to sell me one via the Media Replacement program, which I find odd, but oh well). 2. I plan to use that DVD along with my original Home Premium PID to install the 64-bit version of Home Premium. 3. Then I will use the Anytime Upgrade DVD (which I purchased just after SP1 came out, so it also has SP1 already integrated) and the PID that came with it to upgrade to 64-bit Ultimate. Does that sound about right? Bob "Mark H" wrote: [Quoted Text] > You missed the key element: the PID determines what is being installed. > The PID for an Anytime Upgrade expects to find the version you are upgrading > from already installed and activated. > It will not work as a direct installation. (I've tried.) > > What you seem to be missing is that it is an UPGRADE license. And, MS > designed the Anytime Upgrade to only work as an upgrade, unlike the retail > upgrade version. > > Going to x64 requires a clean install. No way around this. > Anytime Upgrade requires the "from" version installed and activated. > Two installs required to get to Ultimate. > > The good news: > Once you are done, you can make a full backup which can be restored at any > future date in less than 20 minutes and will already be activated. > > "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:9960D011-6141-4EAA-A0DF-5DD2C48A0CF2[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Since I originally had one full Ultimate license, what if I ordered > > replacement media for that and then (after wiping the PC that has Ultimate > > derived from the Home Premium+Anytime Upgrade), used that DVD to install > > Ultimate (using the Ultimate PID that I got with the Anytime Upgrade)? > > Would > > that work? It just seems silly to have to re-install Home Premium and then > > re-apply the Anytime Upgrade. If I have an Ultimate PID (regardless of how > > it > > was derived), why can't I just install Ultimate from the get-go specifying > > that PID? It's the PID that proves I have the license, isn't it? I don't > > mean > > to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand exactly what I need to > > do > > before I wipe the PC (and at the same time, minimize the amount of work, > > I'm > > lazy ;-). > > > > Thanks very much for your help. > > > > Bob > > > > "Mark H" wrote: > > > >> Two things: > >> First, how old is your Anytime Upgrade? > >> The original versions used an executable file to self-install the upgrade > >> while running the current installation. > >> The newer version installs from the disk they send you, but it is unknown > >> to > >> me if the PID is automatically entered, or you have to manually enter it > >> at > >> some point. > >> Based on your original post, you already have the Ultimate PID which > >> implies you probably have the newer version of Anytime Upgrade. > >> When you get to the point of installing x64 Ultimate upgrade below, you > >> will be running x64 version of Home Premium. Insert the installation DVD > >> and > >> when prompted, select install now. When asked for the PID, insert the PID > >> you for Ultimate. An upgrade installation will proceed. > >> > >> All versions of Vista are on the same DVD for the same "bitness." The PID > >> determines what gets installed. To move to x64 Ultimate you will have to > >> do > >> the following: > >> Perform a clean install of Home Premium with the appropriate PID. > >> Activate the installation. > >> Perform the Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. > >> You use the same disk to perform both installations. > >> > >> The Ultimate version you have is an Anytime Upgrade and expects Home > >> Premium > >> to be installed first. > >> It won't work any other way. > >> The PID you have for Home Premium and Ultimate will work on either x86 or > >> x64 versions. > >> > >> > >> "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:CA2B3279-90DE-49C6-A6A3-BF7E3CABEB1F[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> > But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? > >> > > >> > Bob > >> > > >> > "Mark H" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One > >> >> disk > >> >> can > >> >> be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. > >> >> > >> >> "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... > >> >> > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 > >> >> > licenses > >> >> > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded > >> >> > both > >> >> > of > >> >> > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied > >> >> > SP1 > >> >> > to > >> >> > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but > >> >> > I > >> >> > don't > >> >> > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I > >> >> > tried > >> >> > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put > >> >> > in > >> >> > my > >> >> > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it > >> >> > only > >> >> > offers > >> >> > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? > >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> > >> >

Re: Need 64-bit media "Mark H" <jmhonzell[ at ]nospam.comcast.net> 12/2/2008 5:23:20 PM Yep. Just remeber, you must activate the Home Premium version (after step 2) for the Ultimate PID to work as an Anytime Upgrade (step 3). Regarding the media order... As stated way back there at the beginning: If you use one of your two Home Premium PIDs for the order form, you could get the x64 DVD (with SP1) for $10. (7-10 days for delivery.) "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:669D2129-0C08-42D3-B56A-E88A3E088298[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Thank you, I think I have it straight now. Here's my plan: > > 1. I used my original 64-bit Ultimate DVD today along with VLite to create a > new 64-bit DVD with SP1 integrated (since I could not find a way to get MS to > sell me one via the Media Replacement program, which I find odd, but oh well). > > 2. I plan to use that DVD along with my original Home Premium PID to install > the 64-bit version of Home Premium. > > 3. Then I will use the Anytime Upgrade DVD (which I purchased just after SP1 > came out, so it also has SP1 already integrated) and the PID that came with > it to upgrade to 64-bit Ultimate. > > Does that sound about right? > > Bob > > "Mark H" wrote: > > > You missed the key element: the PID determines what is being installed. > > The PID for an Anytime Upgrade expects to find the version you are upgrading > > from already installed and activated. > > It will not work as a direct installation. (I've tried.) > > > > What you seem to be missing is that it is an UPGRADE license. And, MS > > designed the Anytime Upgrade to only work as an upgrade, unlike the retail > > upgrade version. > > > > Going to x64 requires a clean install. No way around this. > > Anytime Upgrade requires the "from" version installed and activated. > > Two installs required to get to Ultimate. > > > > The good news: > > Once you are done, you can make a full backup which can be restored at any > > future date in less than 20 minutes and will already be activated. > > > > "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:9960D011-6141-4EAA-A0DF-5DD2C48A0CF2[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > Since I originally had one full Ultimate license, what if I ordered > > > replacement media for that and then (after wiping the PC that has Ultimate > > > derived from the Home Premium+Anytime Upgrade), used that DVD to install > > > Ultimate (using the Ultimate PID that I got with the Anytime Upgrade)? > > > Would > > > that work? It just seems silly to have to re-install Home Premium and then > > > re-apply the Anytime Upgrade. If I have an Ultimate PID (regardless of how > > > it > > > was derived), why can't I just install Ultimate from the get-go specifying > > > that PID? It's the PID that proves I have the license, isn't it? I don't > > > mean > > > to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand exactly what I need to > > > do > > > before I wipe the PC (and at the same time, minimize the amount of work, > > > I'm > > > lazy ;-). > > > > > > Thanks very much for your help. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > "Mark H" wrote: > > > > > >> Two things: > > >> First, how old is your Anytime Upgrade? > > >> The original versions used an executable file to self-install the upgrade > > >> while running the current installation. > > >> The newer version installs from the disk they send you, but it is unknown > > >> to > > >> me if the PID is automatically entered, or you have to manually enter it > > >> at > > >> some point. > > >> Based on your original post, you already have the Ultimate PID which > > >> implies you probably have the newer version of Anytime Upgrade. > > >> When you get to the point of installing x64 Ultimate upgrade below, you > > >> will be running x64 version of Home Premium. Insert the installation DVD > > >> and > > >> when prompted, select install now. When asked for the PID, insert the PID > > >> you for Ultimate. An upgrade installation will proceed. > > >> > > >> All versions of Vista are on the same DVD for the same "bitness." The PID > > >> determines what gets installed. To move to x64 Ultimate you will have to > > >> do > > >> the following: > > >> Perform a clean install of Home Premium with the appropriate PID. > > >> Activate the installation. > > >> Perform the Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. > > >> You use the same disk to perform both installations. > > >> > > >> The Ultimate version you have is an Anytime Upgrade and expects Home > > >> Premium > > >> to be installed first. > > >> It won't work any other way. > > >> The PID you have for Home Premium and Ultimate will work on either x86 or > > >> x64 versions. > > >> > > >> > > >> "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > >> news:CA2B3279-90DE-49C6-A6A3-BF7E3CABEB1F[ at ]microsoft.com... > > >> > But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? > > >> > > > >> > Bob > > >> > > > >> > "Mark H" wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. One > > >> >> disk > > >> >> can > > >> >> be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. > > >> >> > > >> >> "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > >> >> news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... > > >> >> > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another 2 > > >> >> > licenses > > >> >> > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later upgraded > > >> >> > both > > >> >> > of > > >> >> > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I applied > > >> >> > SP1 > > >> >> > to > > >> >> > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, but > > >> >> > I > > >> >> > don't > > >> >> > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. I > > >> >> > tried > > >> >> > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and put > > >> >> > in > > >> >> > my > > >> >> > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it > > >> >> > only > > >> >> > offers > > >> >> > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with SP1? > > >> >> > Thanks. > > >> >> > > >> > >

Re: Need 64-bit media Bob Cronin 12/2/2008 5:44:01 PM Re the media order, yes I know, and I did do that too just to have an "official" copy, but I'd still like to understand why MS won't sell me replacement media based on the Ultimate PID. Don't people with RTM Ultimate deserve a cheap copy of Ultimate SP1? Sheesh ... Bob "Mark H" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Yep. > Just remeber, you must activate the Home Premium version (after step 2) for > the Ultimate PID to work as an Anytime Upgrade (step 3). > > > Regarding the media order... > As stated way back there at the beginning: > If you use one of your two Home Premium PIDs for the order form, you could > get the x64 DVD (with SP1) for $10. > (7-10 days for delivery.) > > > "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:669D2129-0C08-42D3-B56A-E88A3E088298[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Thank you, I think I have it straight now. Here's my plan: > > > > 1. I used my original 64-bit Ultimate DVD today along with VLite to create > a > > new 64-bit DVD with SP1 integrated (since I could not find a way to get MS > to > > sell me one via the Media Replacement program, which I find odd, but oh > well). > > > > 2. I plan to use that DVD along with my original Home Premium PID to > install > > the 64-bit version of Home Premium. > > > > 3. Then I will use the Anytime Upgrade DVD (which I purchased just after > SP1 > > came out, so it also has SP1 already integrated) and the PID that came > with > > it to upgrade to 64-bit Ultimate. > > > > Does that sound about right? > > > > Bob > > > > "Mark H" wrote: > > > > > You missed the key element: the PID determines what is being installed. > > > The PID for an Anytime Upgrade expects to find the version you are > upgrading > > > from already installed and activated. > > > It will not work as a direct installation. (I've tried.) > > > > > > What you seem to be missing is that it is an UPGRADE license. And, MS > > > designed the Anytime Upgrade to only work as an upgrade, unlike the > retail > > > upgrade version. > > > > > > Going to x64 requires a clean install. No way around this. > > > Anytime Upgrade requires the "from" version installed and activated. > > > Two installs required to get to Ultimate. > > > > > > The good news: > > > Once you are done, you can make a full backup which can be restored at > any > > > future date in less than 20 minutes and will already be activated. > > > > > > "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:9960D011-6141-4EAA-A0DF-5DD2C48A0CF2[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > > Since I originally had one full Ultimate license, what if I ordered > > > > replacement media for that and then (after wiping the PC that has > Ultimate > > > > derived from the Home Premium+Anytime Upgrade), used that DVD to > install > > > > Ultimate (using the Ultimate PID that I got with the Anytime Upgrade)? > > > > Would > > > > that work? It just seems silly to have to re-install Home Premium and > then > > > > re-apply the Anytime Upgrade. If I have an Ultimate PID (regardless of > how > > > > it > > > > was derived), why can't I just install Ultimate from the get-go > specifying > > > > that PID? It's the PID that proves I have the license, isn't it? I > don't > > > > mean > > > > to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand exactly what I need > to > > > > do > > > > before I wipe the PC (and at the same time, minimize the amount of > work, > > > > I'm > > > > lazy ;-). > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for your help. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > "Mark H" wrote: > > > > > > > >> Two things: > > > >> First, how old is your Anytime Upgrade? > > > >> The original versions used an executable file to self-install the > upgrade > > > >> while running the current installation. > > > >> The newer version installs from the disk they send you, but it is > unknown > > > >> to > > > >> me if the PID is automatically entered, or you have to manually enter > it > > > >> at > > > >> some point. > > > >> Based on your original post, you already have the Ultimate PID > which > > > >> implies you probably have the newer version of Anytime Upgrade. > > > >> When you get to the point of installing x64 Ultimate upgrade below, > you > > > >> will be running x64 version of Home Premium. Insert the installation > DVD > > > >> and > > > >> when prompted, select install now. When asked for the PID, insert the > PID > > > >> you for Ultimate. An upgrade installation will proceed. > > > >> > > > >> All versions of Vista are on the same DVD for the same "bitness." The > PID > > > >> determines what gets installed. To move to x64 Ultimate you will have > to > > > >> do > > > >> the following: > > > >> Perform a clean install of Home Premium with the appropriate PID. > > > >> Activate the installation. > > > >> Perform the Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate. > > > >> You use the same disk to perform both installations. > > > >> > > > >> The Ultimate version you have is an Anytime Upgrade and expects Home > > > >> Premium > > > >> to be installed first. > > > >> It won't work any other way. > > > >> The PID you have for Home Premium and Ultimate will work on either > x86 or > > > >> x64 versions. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> "Bob Cronin" <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > >> news:CA2B3279-90DE-49C6-A6A3-BF7E3CABEB1F[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > >> > But will I be able to install Ultimate from that DVD? > > > >> > > > > >> > Bob > > > >> > > > > >> > "Mark H" wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> Go back to the ordermedia site and put in the Home Premium PID. > One > > > >> >> disk > > > >> >> can > > > >> >> be obtained for each full version PID at a cost of $10 each. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> "Bob Cronin" <Bob Cronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message > > > >> >> news:E6406AB2-BAC4-4056-B3DC-71693F8646AC[ at ]microsoft.com... > > > >> >> > Two years ago I bought a full ultimate license and then another > 2 > > > >> >> > licenses > > > >> >> > for home premium under the old family pack program. I later > upgraded > > > >> >> > both > > > >> >> > of > > > >> >> > them to ultimate under the anytime upgrade program. Later I > applied > > > >> >> > SP1 > > > >> >> > to > > > >> >> > all 3 systems. Now I want to wipe one system and install 64-bit, > but > > > >> >> > I > > > >> >> > don't > > > >> >> > have any media that has the 64-bit version of ultimate with SP1. > I > > > >> >> > tried > > > >> >> > ordering new media at www.windowsvista.com/1033/ordermedia and > put > > > >> >> > in > > > >> >> > my > > > >> >> > ultimate product key that I got with the anytime upgrade, but it > > > >> >> > only > > > >> >> > offers > > > >> >> > me the 32-bit DVD. How can I get the 64-bit ultimate DVD with > SP1? > > > >> >> > Thanks. > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > >

Re: Need 64-bit media DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam[ at ]crazyhat.net> 12/3/2008 12:06:33 AM In message <85E55CD9-B4AF-4A27-8C99-3560AD62E0E0[ at ]microsoft.com> Bob Cronin <BobCronin[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> was claimed to have wrote: [Quoted Text] >Re the media order, yes I know, and I did do that too just to have an >"official" copy, but I'd still like to understand why MS won't sell me >replacement media based on the Ultimate PID. Don't people with RTM Ultimate >deserve a cheap copy of Ultimate SP1? Sheesh ... Microsoft's goal with the x64 media offering is to offer x64 to customers who don't already have it, the system was designed to assume that RTM Ultimate users already have the appropriate media (since it was included in the box) The goal of this program is not, and never was, to provide a cheap integrated service pack solution. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246 covers ordering replacement media The "Media replacement for end-users of system builders' computers" section might be helpful.