Deleting files from within a shadow copy Mark Gould 12/12/2008 3:41:02 PM We are running Windows Server 2003 Standard Have shadow copies enabled The issue is say a user deletes or moves some files from a folder, it is possible to then bring up the previous version of the folder and retrieve the files. This is obviously the correct behaviour but is there anyway that I can manually remove the copies of the applicable files from the previous version option. With thanks

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can[ at ]fly.com.oz> 12/12/2008 4:53:19 PM "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message news:53722910-8F54-4263-B980-933BE1422E96[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > We are running Windows Server 2003 Standard > > Have shadow copies enabled > > The issue is say a user deletes or moves some files from a folder, it is > possible to then bring up the previous version of the folder and retrieve > the > files. This is obviously the correct behaviour but is there anyway that I > can > manually remove the copies of the applicable files from the previous > version > option. > > With thanks You would have to restore the files/folders to a different folder, delete the unwanted files, then create a new backup.

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy Mark Gould 12/12/2008 5:03:02 PM I think we may be talking at slight corss purposes with thanks as I would like to make it for some files that once they are deleted or moved from a folder they can nnot be undeleted uusing Previous Versions "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > > "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message > news:53722910-8F54-4263-B980-933BE1422E96[ at ]microsoft.com... > > We are running Windows Server 2003 Standard > > > > Have shadow copies enabled > > > > The issue is say a user deletes or moves some files from a folder, it is > > possible to then bring up the previous version of the folder and retrieve > > the > > files. This is obviously the correct behaviour but is there anyway that I > > can > > manually remove the copies of the applicable files from the previous > > version > > option. > > > > With thanks > > You would have to restore the files/folders to a different folder, delete > the unwanted files, then create a new backup. > > >

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can[ at ]fly.com.oz> 12/12/2008 5:22:59 PM "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message news:334B7FFE-F755-46E5-9AB9-8D557CC82AE7[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] >I think we may be talking at slight corss purposes with thanks as I would > like to make it for some files that once they are deleted or moved from a > folder they can nnot be undeleted uusing Previous Versions Sorry, I do not understand what you're trying to say. Can you rephrase this?

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy Mark Gould 12/12/2008 5:41:01 PM Of course If File B is in Folder a and then file B is deleted from folder A or moved from Folder A, it is still possible to recover file B usind the previous version function on Folder A. This is great and is the purpose of Previous Versions. However I would like to manually be able to delete some files from the Previous Version "folder" so once File B is deleted from folder A, I can ensure that file B can NOT be receovered via the previous versions function on Folder A, ie I would like to manually disable the previous version functionality for some files that have been deleted. How can I do this? With thanks Mark "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > > "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message > news:334B7FFE-F755-46E5-9AB9-8D557CC82AE7[ at ]microsoft.com... > >I think we may be talking at slight corss purposes with thanks as I would > > like to make it for some files that once they are deleted or moved from a > > folder they can nnot be undeleted uusing Previous Versions > > Sorry, I do not understand what you're trying to say. Can you rephrase this? > > >

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can[ at ]fly.com.oz> 12/12/2008 5:56:04 PM "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message news:D3C8D763-8C1E-440C-B05D-D84E73A738A9[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Of course > > If File B is in Folder a and then file B is deleted from folder A or moved > from Folder A, it is still possible to recover file B usind the previous > version function on Folder A. > > This is great and is the purpose of Previous Versions. > > However I would like to manually be able to delete some files from the > Previous Version "folder" so once File B is deleted from folder A, I can > ensure that file B can NOT be receovered via the previous versions > function > on Folder A, > > ie I would like to manually disable the previous version functionality for > some files that have been deleted. > > How can I do this? > > With thanks > > Mark I don't think you can - it seems to run contrary to the basic backup strategy implemented in ntbackup.exe.

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy Mark Gould 12/12/2008 6:04:07 PM Where does NTbackup feature, I am using previous versions Many thanks "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > > "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message > news:D3C8D763-8C1E-440C-B05D-D84E73A738A9[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Of course > > > > If File B is in Folder a and then file B is deleted from folder A or moved > > from Folder A, it is still possible to recover file B usind the previous > > version function on Folder A. > > > > This is great and is the purpose of Previous Versions. > > > > However I would like to manually be able to delete some files from the > > Previous Version "folder" so once File B is deleted from folder A, I can > > ensure that file B can NOT be receovered via the previous versions > > function > > on Folder A, > > > > ie I would like to manually disable the previous version functionality for > > some files that have been deleted. > > > > How can I do this? > > > > With thanks > > > > Mark > > I don't think you can - it seems to run contrary to the basic backup > strategy implemented in ntbackup.exe. > > >

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can[ at ]fly.com.oz> 12/12/2008 7:01:05 PM "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message news:FD0A2DCF-2587-4656-A148-CB14416AAD29[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Where does NTbackup feature, I am using previous versions > > Many thanks > Previous versions of what?

RE: Deleting files from within a shadow copy v-dashen[ at ]online.microsoft.com (David Shen [MSFT]) 12/15/2008 9:24:41 AM Hello Mark, Thanks for posting here. According to you description, my understanding is that: You would like to manually delete some files from the Previous Version "folder" so once File B is deleted from folder A, you want to ensure that file B can NOT be recovered via the previous versions function on Folder A. Also you would like to manually disable the previous version functionality for some files that have been deleted. Based on the research, since the previous version functionality is based on the Volume Shadow copy services, the individual files cannot be removed from a Shadow copy because of the reason that the Shadow Copies are read-only. If you want to manually delete some files from the previous version of "Folder" in a given shadow copy, the only way delete the entire shadow copy. For more information about VSS, you may refer to: How Volume Shadow Copy Service Works http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785914.aspx Hope it helps. David Shen Microsoft Online Technical Support

Re: Deleting files from within a shadow copy Mark Gould 12/15/2008 12:35:26 PM The Windows 2003 Shaddow copy facility that enables the use of "previous versions" of files Best regards Mark "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: [Quoted Text] > > "Mark Gould" <MarkGould[ at ]community.nospam> wrote in message > news:FD0A2DCF-2587-4656-A148-CB14416AAD29[ at ]microsoft.com... > > Where does NTbackup feature, I am using previous versions > > > > Many thanks > > > > Previous versions of what? > > >

RE: Deleting files from within a shadow copy Mark Gould 12/15/2008 12:48:06 PM With thanks, that is what I thought! "David Shen [MSFT]" wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hello Mark, > > Thanks for posting here. > > According to you description, my understanding is that: > > You would like to manually delete some files from the Previous Version > "folder" so once File B is deleted from folder A, you want to ensure that > file B can NOT be recovered via the previous versions function on Folder A. > Also you would like to manually disable the previous version functionality > for some files that have been deleted. > > Based on the research, since the previous version functionality is based on > the Volume Shadow copy services, the individual files cannot be removed > from a Shadow copy because of the reason that the Shadow Copies are > read-only. If you want to manually delete some files from the previous > version of "Folder" in a given shadow copy, the only way delete the entire > shadow copy. > > For more information about VSS, you may refer to: > > How Volume Shadow Copy Service Works > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785914.aspx > > Hope it helps. > > David Shen > Microsoft Online Technical Support > >

RE: Deleting files from within a shadow copy v-dashen[ at ]online.microsoft.com (David Shen [MSFT]) 12/16/2008 11:46:02 AM Hello Mark, I am glad that the infomation is helpful to you. If you have any other question, please welcome to the newsgroup again. David Shen Microsoft Online Technical Support