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If I go to Help/About, I see: - Version 6.0.2800.1106 - Cipher Strength: 56-bit - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 - Update Versions:;SP1;
I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to my bank's home page. When I go here, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833, it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption.
First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If not, how to explain that odd 56-bit number?
In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses updating versions of IE before 6.0.
At this link, http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx, it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also have it.
On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked.
I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't go to IEv7.
How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version?
Thanks,
Ray
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[You can't install IE7 in Win2K.]
Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but see...
Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63 -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
Ray K wrote:
[Quoted Text] > If I go to Help/About, I see: > - Version 6.0.2800.1106 > - Cipher Strength: 56-bit > - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 > - Update Versions:;SP1; > > I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to > my bank's home page. When I go here, > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. > > First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If not, > how to explain that odd 56-bit number? > > In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses > updating versions of IE before 6.0. > > At this link, > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx,> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also have it. > > On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 > and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. > > I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't go > to IEv7. > > How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? > > Thanks, > > Ray
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PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Quoted Text] Bear,
I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, and I still can't connect with my bank.
Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE?
Tnanks,
Ray
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Ray K wrote: <paste>
[Quoted Text] >> If I go to Help/About, I see: >> - Version 6.0.2800.1106 >> - Cipher Strength: 56-bit >> - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 >> - Update Versions:;SP1; >> >> I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to >> my bank's home page. When I go here, >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,>> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. >> >> First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If not, >> how to explain that odd 56-bit number? >> >> In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses >> updating versions of IE before 6.0. >> >> At this link, >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx,>> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also have >> it. >> >> On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 >> and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. >> >> I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't go >> to IEv7. >> >> How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? </paste> > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> [You can't install IE7 in Win2K.] >> >> Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but see... >> >> Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63 > > I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to > date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the > reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, > and I still can't connect with my bank. > > Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE?
[Please quote this entire post in your reply.]
Have you ever been able to access the bank website using IE6 SP1 on this machine? IOW, is this a sudden, new problem or an ongoing one?
Is this your own personal machine or one belonging to your employer, school, or...?
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ray K wrote: > <paste> >>> If I go to Help/About, I see: >>> - Version 6.0.2800.1106 >>> - Cipher Strength: 56-bit >>> - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 >>> - Update Versions:;SP1; >>> >>> I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to >>> my bank's home page. When I go here, >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,>>> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. >>> >>> First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If not, >>> how to explain that odd 56-bit number? >>> >>> In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses >>> updating versions of IE before 6.0. >>> >>> At this link, >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx, >>> >>> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also >>> have it. >>> >>> On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 >>> and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. >>> >>> I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't go >>> to IEv7. >>> >>> How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? > </paste> >> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>> [You can't install IE7 in Win2K.] >>> >>> Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but see... >>> >>> Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63 >>> >> >> I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to >> date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the >> reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, >> and I still can't connect with my bank. >> >> Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE? > > [Please quote this entire post in your reply.] > > Have you ever been able to access the bank website using IE6 SP1 on this > machine? IOW, is this a sudden, new problem or an ongoing one? Probably not, as I usually use SeaMonkey as my browser. This probably is my first attempt to use IE with this site, and I did so because I was having a problem logging in with SM, so using IE was just a test.
> Is this your own personal machine or one belonging to your employer, > school, or...?
Personal
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your > subscription current?
I usually use System Mechanic suite, but it isn't installed now.
What anti-spyware applications (other than > Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
None. I'm living dangerously now.
> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed?
No
Ray
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Ray K wrote:
[Quoted Text] > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> Ray K wrote: >> <paste> >>>> If I go to Help/About, I see: >>>> - Version 6.0.2800.1106 >>>> - Cipher Strength: 56-bit >>>> - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 >>>> - Update Versions:;SP1; >>>> >>>> I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to >>>> my bank's home page. When I go here, >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,>>>> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. >>>> >>>> First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If >>>> not, >>>> how to explain that odd 56-bit number? >>>> >>>> In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses >>>> updating versions of IE before 6.0. >>>> >>>> At this link, >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx,>>>> >>>> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also >>>> have it. >>>> >>>> On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 >>>> and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. >>>> >>>> I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't >>>> go >>>> to IEv7. >>>> >>>> How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? </paste> PA Bear [MS >>>> MVP] wrote: [You can't install IE7 in Win2K.] >>>> >>>> Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but >>>> see... >>>> >>>> Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63>>>> >>> >>> I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to >>> date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the >>> reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, >>> and I still can't connect with my bank. >>> >>> Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE? >> >> [Please quote this entire post in your reply.] >> >> Have you ever been able to access the bank website using IE6 SP1 on this >> machine? IOW, is this a sudden, new problem or an ongoing one? > > Probably not, as I usually use SeaMonkey as my browser. This probably is > my first attempt to use IE with this site, and I did so because I was > having a problem logging in with SM, so using IE was just a test. > >> Is this your own personal machine or one belonging to your employer, >> school, or...? > > Personal > >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your >> subscription current? > > I usually use System Mechanic suite, but it isn't installed now. > > What anti-spyware applications (other than >> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? > > None. I'm living dangerously now. > >> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed? > > No The fact that you're having problems in SM suggests that you may have a hijackware infection.
Why have you no anti-virus application and no firewall installed now? That was NOT a wise move, especially if you're having difficulties reaching secure websites.
Protect Your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx
Learn how to protect your PC by taking three simple steps http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3AD23728-4973-4DA5-9836-602954130D38
That being said, I was thinking of suggesting that you uninstall/reinstall IE6; however, doing so can be complicated in Win2K. But this leads me to ask another question in the meantime: Have you ever had occasion to reinstall Win2K *after* you'd installed IE6 SP1? If you so, did you uninstall IE6 SP1 before reinstalling Win2K?
May we assume you're running Win2K SP4 now?
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Windows 2000 on the SP2 level still had the IE 56bit encryption. Installing SP3 and above on W2K brought IE inline with the 128bit encryption. SP's were not cumulative on W2K. If the OP jumped from SP2 to SP4 he is most likely to have 56 bit as he is saying among other issues He is missing SP3 which is probably not installed
-- Peter
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[Quoted Text] > Ray K wrote: >> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>> Ray K wrote: >>> <paste> >>>>> If I go to Help/About, I see: >>>>> - Version 6.0.2800.1106 >>>>> - Cipher Strength: 56-bit >>>>> - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 >>>>> - Update Versions:;SP1; >>>>> >>>>> I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to >>>>> my bank's home page. When I go here, >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,>>>>> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. >>>>> >>>>> First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If not, >>>>> how to explain that odd 56-bit number? >>>>> >>>>> In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses >>>>> updating versions of IE before 6.0. >>>>> >>>>> At this link, >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx,>>>>> >>>>> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also >>>>> have it. >>>>> >>>>> On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 >>>>> and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. >>>>> >>>>> I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't go >>>>> to IEv7. >>>>> >>>>> How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? </paste> PA Bear [MS >>>>> MVP] wrote: [You can't install IE7 in Win2K.] >>>>> >>>>> Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but see... >>>>> >>>>> Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63>>>>> >>>> >>>> I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to >>>> date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the >>>> reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, >>>> and I still can't connect with my bank. >>>> >>>> Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE? >>> >>> [Please quote this entire post in your reply.] >>> >>> Have you ever been able to access the bank website using IE6 SP1 on this >>> machine? IOW, is this a sudden, new problem or an ongoing one? >> >> Probably not, as I usually use SeaMonkey as my browser. This probably is >> my first attempt to use IE with this site, and I did so because I was >> having a problem logging in with SM, so using IE was just a test. >> >>> Is this your own personal machine or one belonging to your employer, >>> school, or...? >> >> Personal >> >>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your >>> subscription current? >> >> I usually use System Mechanic suite, but it isn't installed now. >> >> What anti-spyware applications (other than >>> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >> >> None. I'm living dangerously now. >> >>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed? >> >> No > > The fact that you're having problems in SM suggests that you may have a hijackware > infection. > > Why have you no anti-virus application and no firewall installed now? That was > NOT a wise move, especially if you're having difficulties reaching secure > websites. > > Protect Your PC! > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx> > Learn how to protect your PC by taking three simple steps > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3AD23728-4973-4DA5-9836-602954130D38> > That being said, I was thinking of suggesting that you uninstall/reinstall IE6; > however, doing so can be complicated in Win2K. But this leads me to ask another > question in the meantime: Have you ever had occasion to reinstall Win2K *after* > you'd installed IE6 SP1? If you so, did you uninstall IE6 SP1 before reinstalling > Win2K? > > May we assume you're running Win2K SP4 now?
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Thanks for that, Peter. Yet another reason to ask if he's running Win2K SP4.
Peter Foldes wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Windows 2000 on the SP2 level still had the IE 56bit encryption. > Installing > SP3 and above on W2K brought IE inline with the 128bit encryption. SP's > were not cumulative on W2K. If the OP jumped from SP2 to SP4 he is most > likely to have 56 bit as he is saying among other issues He is missing SP3 > which is probably not installed > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > news:u9LIxT%23XJHA.1336[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Ray K wrote: >>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>> Ray K wrote: >>>> <paste> >>>>>> If I go to Help/About, I see: >>>>>> - Version 6.0.2800.1106 >>>>>> - Cipher Strength: 56-bit >>>>>> - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 >>>>>> - Update Versions:;SP1; >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going >>>>>> to >>>>>> my bank's home page. When I go here, >>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,>>>>>> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. >>>>>> >>>>>> First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If >>>>>> not, how to explain that odd 56-bit number? >>>>>> >>>>>> In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses >>>>>> updating versions of IE before 6.0. >>>>>> >>>>>> At this link, >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx,>>>>>> >>>>>> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also >>>>>> have it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 >>>>>> and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I can't >>>>>> go to IEv7. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? </paste> PA Bear [MS >>>>>> MVP] wrote: [You can't install IE7 in Win2K.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but >>>>>> see... Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to >>>>> date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the >>>>> reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, >>>>> and I still can't connect with my bank. >>>>> >>>>> Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE? >>>> >>>> [Please quote this entire post in your reply.] >>>> >>>> Have you ever been able to access the bank website using IE6 SP1 on >>>> this >>>> machine? IOW, is this a sudden, new problem or an ongoing one? >>> >>> Probably not, as I usually use SeaMonkey as my browser. This probably is >>> my first attempt to use IE with this site, and I did so because I was >>> having a problem logging in with SM, so using IE was just a test. >>> >>>> Is this your own personal machine or one belonging to your employer, >>>> school, or...? >>> >>> Personal >>> >>>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your >>>> subscription current? >>> >>> I usually use System Mechanic suite, but it isn't installed now. >>> >>> What anti-spyware applications (other than >>>> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >>> >>> None. I'm living dangerously now. >>> >>>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed? >>> >>> No >> >> The fact that you're having problems in SM suggests that you may have a >> hijackware infection. >> >> Why have you no anti-virus application and no firewall installed now? >> That was NOT a wise move, especially if you're having difficulties >> reaching secure websites. >> >> Protect Your PC! >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx>> >> Learn how to protect your PC by taking three simple steps >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3AD23728-4973-4DA5-9836-602954130D38>> >> That being said, I was thinking of suggesting that you >> uninstall/reinstall >> IE6; however, doing so can be complicated in Win2K. But this leads me to >> ask another question in the meantime: Have you ever had occasion to >> reinstall Win2K *after* you'd installed IE6 SP1? If you so, did you >> uninstall IE6 SP1 before reinstalling Win2K? >> >> May we assume you're running Win2K SP4 now?
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PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Ray K wrote: >> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>> Ray K wrote: >>> <paste> >>>>> If I go to Help/About, I see: >>>>> - Version 6.0.2800.1106 >>>>> - Cipher Strength: 56-bit >>>>> - Product ID:51873-335-7881281-09075 >>>>> - Update Versions:;SP1; >>>>> >>>>> I think that the 56-bit strength is what's preventing me from going to >>>>> my bank's home page. When I go here, >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=195833,>>>>> it says that IE supports only 40- and 128-bit encryption. >>>>> >>>>> First question is, Is Cipher Strength different from encryption? If >>>>> not, >>>>> how to explain that odd 56-bit number? >>>>> >>>>> In any case, the remainder of the above Microsoft link addresses >>>>> updating versions of IE before 6.0. >>>>> >>>>> At this link, >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/recommended/128bit/default.mspx, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> it says that IE5.5 already includes 128-bits, so IE 6 should also >>>>> have it. >>>>> >>>>> On Tools/Internet Options/Advanced, under Security the SSL2.0, SSL3.0 >>>>> and TLS1.0 boxes are all checked. >>>>> >>>>> I'm using W2k, Professional (SP4, with about 70 hotfixes), so I >>>>> can't go >>>>> to IEv7. >>>>> >>>>> How do I get 128-bit encryption with my version? </paste> PA Bear [MS >>>>> MVP] wrote: [You can't install IE7 in Win2K.] >>>>> >>>>> Dunno how you ended up with 56-bit cipher strength in IE6 SP1 but >>>>> see... >>>>> >>>>> Windows 2000 High Encryption Pack (128-bit): >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c10925a0-ac66-4c44-b5c3-9dcab4da1c63 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I did the install. AS I started, it warned me that I already was up to >>>> date and suggested that I exit the install program. I went through the >>>> reinstall anyway. Same results: IE is still at 56-bit cipher strength, >>>> and I still can't connect with my bank. >>>> >>>> Is the cipher strength a function of W2k or IE? >>> >>> [Please quote this entire post in your reply.] >>> >>> Have you ever been able to access the bank website using IE6 SP1 on this >>> machine? IOW, is this a sudden, new problem or an ongoing one? >> >> Probably not, as I usually use SeaMonkey as my browser. This probably is >> my first attempt to use IE with this site, and I did so because I was >> having a problem logging in with SM, so using IE was just a test. >> >>> Is this your own personal machine or one belonging to your employer, >>> school, or...? >> >> Personal >> >>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your >>> subscription current? >> >> I usually use System Mechanic suite, but it isn't installed now. >> >> What anti-spyware applications (other than >>> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >> >> None. I'm living dangerously now. >> >>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed? >> >> No > > The fact that you're having problems in SM suggests that you may have a > hijackware infection. I am NOT having trouble connecting to the bank site with SM; the trouble is only when using IE. > > Why have you no anti-virus application and no firewall installed now? > That was NOT a wise move, especially if you're having difficulties > reaching secure websites. > > Protect Your PC! > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx > > Learn how to protect your PC by taking three simple steps > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3AD23728-4973-4DA5-9836-602954130D38 > > > That being said, I was thinking of suggesting that you > uninstall/reinstall IE6; however, doing so can be complicated in Win2K. > But this leads me to ask another question in the meantime: Have you ever > had occasion to reinstall Win2K *after* you'd installed IE6 SP1? If you > so, did you uninstall IE6 SP1 before reinstalling Win2K? > > May we assume you're running Win2K SP4 now?
As I recall, the last time I installed W2K was after a reformatting of C:. Yes, I'm running SP4.
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Peter Foldes wrote:
[Quoted Text] > PA > > Windows 2000 on the SP2 level still had the IE 56bit encryption. > Installing SP3 and above on W2K brought IE inline with the 128bit > encryption. SP's were not cumulative on W2K. If the OP jumped from SP2 > to SP4 he is most likely to have 56 bit as he is saying among other > issues He is missing SP3 which is probably not installed
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You're right. SP4 gets all the publicity, SP3 virtually none. I do not have SP3 installed. I'm surprised that 1) SP4 doesn't include everything in SP3, and 2) SP4 doesn't warn that SP3 is missing and should be installed first.
I just downloaded a copy of SP3 and attempted to install it. I got the following message in a Service Pack 3 Setup Error dialog box:
"Setup had detected that the Service Pack version of the system installed is newer than the update you are applying to it. You can only install this update on Service Pack 3."
Maybe the problem is that I need a basic SP3, and I was inadverently trying to apply an update to something not already installed.
So now I'm stuck. According to Add/Remove Programs, I can't uninstall SP4 so I can first install SP3, then reinstall SP4. Besides, with all those 70+ hotfixes, I'm not sure what I'd end up with.
I just tried going to fidelity.com using IE; it specifically warned me that I couldn't continue without 128-bit encryption.
Ray
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After scouting around, I came across the following high-encrypt pack for W2K.
Encpack_Win2000Admin_EN.exe
I D/L'd it to c:\, and ran it. That unpacked three files in c:\, one of which was ENCPACK.EXE. Once I ran that and rebooted, IE6 went to 128-bit encryption, and I was able to log into all the troublesome sites.
Thanks, guys, for your suggestions.
Ray
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YW & thanks for your feedback, Ray.
Are you running Win2K SP4? If so, did you skip installing SP3?
Did you ever reinstall Win2K?
Ray K wrote:
[Quoted Text] > After scouting around, I came across the following high-encrypt pack for > W2K. > > Encpack_Win2000Admin_EN.exe > > I D/L'd it to c:\, and ran it. That unpacked three files in c:\, one of > which was ENCPACK.EXE. Once I ran that and rebooted, IE6 went to 128-bit > encryption, and I was able to log into all the troublesome sites. > > Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. > > Ray
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Ray K wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Peter Foldes wrote: >> Windows 2000 on the SP2 level still had the IE 56bit encryption. >> Installing SP3 and above on W2K brought IE inline with the 128bit >> encryption. SP's were not cumulative on W2K. If the OP jumped from SP2 >> to SP4 he is most likely to have 56 bit as he is saying among other >> issues He is missing SP3 which is probably not installed > > You're right. SP4 gets all the publicity, SP3 virtually none. I do not > have SP3 installed. I'm surprised that 1) SP4 doesn't include everything > in SP3, and 2) SP4 doesn't warn that SP3 is missing and should be > installed first. > > I just downloaded a copy of SP3 and attempted to install it. I got the > following message in a Service Pack 3 Setup Error dialog box: > > "Setup had detected that the Service Pack version of the system > installed is newer than the update you are applying to it. You can only > install this update on Service Pack 3." > > Maybe the problem is that I need a basic SP3, and I was inadverently > trying to apply an update to something not already installed. > > So now I'm stuck. According to Add/Remove Programs, I can't uninstall > SP4 so I can first install SP3, then reinstall SP4. Besides, with all > those 70+ hotfixes, I'm not sure what I'd end up with. > > I just tried going to fidelity.com using IE; it specifically warned me > that I couldn't continue without 128-bit encryption.
<paste from other reply> > As I recall, the last time I installed W2K was after a reformatting of > C:. Yes, I'm running SP4. </paste>
[We now know that everything was fixed after you'd installed the High Encryption Pack for Win2K (Encpack_Win2000Admin_EN.exe). PS: Ignore my reply to that post.]
Did you uninstall IE6 SP1 *before* reinstalling Win2K? (To be able to uninstall IE6 SP1 in Win2K, you must first uninstall any Service Packs that were installed after IE6 SP1 was installed.) -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Quoted Text] > YW & thanks for your feedback, Ray. > > Are you running Win2K SP4? If so, did you skip installing SP3? > > Did you ever reinstall Win2K? >
My post of 9:25 a.m. today addresses your questions. Yes to SP4; no to SP3.
Regarding W2K, I did a fresh install (I don't know if that's the same as a reinstall) several months ago on a newly formatted C: drive.
Ray
> Ray K wrote: >> After scouting around, I came across the following high-encrypt pack for >> W2K. >> >> Encpack_Win2000Admin_EN.exe >> >> I D/L'd it to c:\, and ran it. That unpacked three files in c:\, one of >> which was ENCPACK.EXE. Once I ran that and rebooted, IE6 went to 128-bit >> encryption, and I was able to log into all the troublesome sites. >> >> Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. >> >> Ray
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Reply to my post in your original thread, please, Ray. (When you change the subject, it becomes a new thread for those of us using OE Newsreader.)
Ray K wrote:
[Quoted Text] > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> YW & thanks for your feedback, Ray. >> >> Are you running Win2K SP4? If so, did you skip installing SP3? >> >> Did you ever reinstall Win2K? >> > > > My post of 9:25 a.m. today addresses your questions. Yes to SP4; no to > SP3. > > Regarding W2K, I did a fresh install (I don't know if that's the same as > a reinstall) > several months ago on a newly formatted C: drive. > > Ray > >> Ray K wrote: >>> After scouting around, I came across the following high-encrypt pack for >>> W2K. >>> >>> Encpack_Win2000Admin_EN.exe >>> >>> I D/L'd it to c:\, and ran it. That unpacked three files in c:\, one of >>> which was ENCPACK.EXE. Once I ran that and rebooted, IE6 went to 128-bit >>> encryption, and I was able to log into all the troublesome sites. >>> >>> Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. >>> >>> Ray
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Peter Foldes wrote:
[Quoted Text] > PA > > Windows 2000 on the SP2 level still had the IE 56bit encryption. R > Installing SP3 and above on W2K brought IE inline with the 128bit > encryption. SP's were not cumulative on W2K. If the OP jumped from SP2 > to SP4 he is most likely to have 56 bit as he is saying among other > issues He is missing SP3 which is probably not installed >
Not so. Each SP includes all the previous ones as well as the new fixes.
Here's what Microsoft says:
"Updates and fixes to Microsoft Windows 2000 are distributed in service packs. Service packs keep the product current. Service packs include updates, system administration tools, drivers, and additional components that are conveniently bundled for easy downloading. Service packs are cumulative. Therefore, each new service pack contains all the fixes that are included in previous service packs together with the new fixes. You do not have to install a previous service pack before you install the latest service pack. For example, you do not have to install Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3) before you install Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (SP4)."
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/260910/EN-US/
Ray K.
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[It's very likely that your reinstall of Win2K without having first uninstalled IE6 SP1 (and any SPs installed after IE6 SP1 was installed) caused your predicament, Ray.]
Ray K wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Peter Foldes wrote: >> PA >> >> Windows 2000 on the SP2 level still had the IE 56bit encryption. R >> Installing SP3 and above on W2K brought IE inline with the 128bit >> encryption. SP's were not cumulative on W2K. If the OP jumped from SP2 >> to SP4 he is most likely to have 56 bit as he is saying among other >> issues He is missing SP3 which is probably not installed >> > > Not so. Each SP includes all the previous ones as well as the new fixes. > > Here's what Microsoft says: > > "Updates and fixes to Microsoft Windows 2000 are distributed in service > packs. Service packs keep the product current. Service packs include > updates, system administration tools, drivers, and additional components > that are conveniently bundled for easy downloading. Service packs are > cumulative. Therefore, each new service pack contains all the fixes that > are included in previous service packs together with the new fixes. You > do not have to install a previous service pack before you install the > latest service pack. For example, you do not have to install Windows > 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3) before you install Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 > (SP4)." > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/260910/EN-US/> > > Ray K.
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