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Hi
Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see any icon or get in to programs?
Thanks
Amee
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Firstly you don't access Safe Mode through the Windows XP Pro disc. You access Safe Mode by starting the computer and tapping the F8 key. Does that work for you?
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"Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:5373DC88-46E3-45C0-986E-26F366AE3CFB[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see > any icon or get in to programs? > > > Thanks > > Amee
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Accessing Safe Mode:
To get into Safe mode, tap F8 right at Power On / Startup, and use UP arrow key to get to Safe Mode from list of options, then hit ENTER.
-- Mad Mike
"Veris and Amee Young" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see any > icon or get in to programs? > > > Thanks > > Amee >
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Hi Youngs,
As stated earlier use the F8. If the problem still persists, pops in the installation CD to do a recovery console. Your data will still be intact though your app stability may get compromised afterwards (just reinstall the apps)
HTH,
"Veris and Amee Young" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see any > icon or get in to programs? > > > Thanks > > Amee >
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How is the recovery console going to help? It is pretty obvious the OP will have no clue (no offense to the OP) what to do with a command line interface once they get there.
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"inavlis" <inavlis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:652FB880-5205-4CD8-A37F-842CD48B9E83[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi Youngs, > > As stated earlier use the F8. If the problem still persists, pops in the > installation CD to do a recovery console. Your data will still be intact > though your app stability may get compromised afterwards (just reinstall > the > apps) > > HTH, > > > "Veris and Amee Young" wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop >> are >> gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe >> mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get >> in >> to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see >> any >> icon or get in to programs? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Amee >>
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I did realize my mistake about having cd in there after hubby told me. He didn't know I was trying to do that. We also found out that with our USB keyboard we couldn't get to F8. We used one of our old wired keyboards to get to F8. I know that safe mode thing didn't work . Don't remember exactly why. We started up the pc normal way. When we lost all the icons again from desktop along with start and everything in taskbar we did CLT+ALT+DEL and went to application. Started new task and browsed to our McAfee and ran for virus scan. It didn't find anything. Then we ran IE went to trend micro site to do online scan. It found TROJ_QDOWN.I, TROJ_VMDO.BBV bunch of spyware, adware, Hackingtools.cain and vulnerabilities in Microsoft Office. We cleaned it and it deleted most of the things except VMDO.BBV and some of the MS vulnerabilities. So now we have to figure out how to delete this VMDO thing and fix the vulnerabilities. I am still not sure why our McAfee didn't pick up any of these things. We have it updated. "Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:5373DC88-46E3-45C0-986E-26F366AE3CFB[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see > any icon or get in to programs? > > > Thanks > > Amee
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"Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:OmWxAdGYJHA.4852[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text] >I did realize my mistake about having cd in there after hubby told me. He >didn't know I was trying to do that. We also found out that with our USB >keyboard we couldn't get to F8. We used one of our old wired keyboards to >get to F8. I know that safe mode thing didn't work . Don't remember exactly >why. We started up the pc normal way. When we lost all the icons again from >desktop along with start and everything in taskbar we did CLT+ALT+DEL and >went to application. Started new task and browsed to our McAfee and ran for >virus scan. It didn't find anything. Then we ran IE went to trend micro >site to do online scan. It found TROJ_QDOWN.I, TROJ_VMDO.BBV bunch of >spyware, adware, Hackingtools.cain and vulnerabilities in Microsoft Office. >We cleaned it and it deleted most of the things except VMDO.BBV and some >of the MS vulnerabilities. So now we have to figure out how to delete this >VMDO thing and fix the vulnerabilities. I am still not sure why our McAfee >didn't pick up any of these things. We have it updated. > "Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message > news:5373DC88-46E3-45C0-986E-26F366AE3CFB[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Hi >> >> Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop >> are gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to >> safe mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to >> get in to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we >> can't see any icon or get in to programs? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Amee >
McAfee didn't pick up your infections because it isn't a good AV program. My suggestion is to ditch McAfee and replace it with NOD32.
You might be much further along if you also use David Lipman's MULTI_AV package. Since no one AV program can find everything, the overlap of multiple AV software tends to reduce the likelihood of missing malware.
It would seem that what you are really missing is just the shortcuts. These are easily restored although doing so will take some time.
Jim
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I thought that it wasn't good to have multiple anti virus programs because they want to take over and mess up more then it helps. We are using McAfee because it is free with our Comcast.
Amee "Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:5373DC88-46E3-45C0-986E-26F366AE3CFB[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] > Hi > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see > any icon or get in to programs? > > > Thanks > > Amee
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:14:57 -0700, "Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I thought that it wasn't good to have multiple anti virus programs
Correct.
> ... because > they want to take over and mess up more then it helps.
No, it's because they can conflict with other.
> We are using McAfee > because it is free with our Comcast.
Your choice of course, but in my view, free or not, it's the second worst anti-virus program available. Only Norton is worse.
If you want a free anti-virus program, I recommend Avast, which is a considerably better choice.
-- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake[ at ]this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:1n0jk4ps9hj030pih7jc4ouathk4blm5sp[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text] > On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:14:57 -0700, "Veris and Amee Young" > <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote: > >> I thought that it wasn't good to have multiple anti virus programs > > > Correct. > > >> ... because >> they want to take over and mess up more then it helps. > > > No, it's because they can conflict with other.
Clarification:
It *is* actually good to have multiple anti-malware programs; in fact, it is recommended. I am sure what you mean is it is not good to *run* more than one at a time because of potential conflicts. :-)
And if we narrow anti-malware programs to anti-virus programs, OP needs to be careful about how they are configured. If they both in the background at the same time, that can of course cause potential conflicts. Come to think of it, we don't need to narrow this at all; I recall AdAware and Spybot S&D conflicting.
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"Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message news:9361FCEB-92AE-43BE-9B69-1BA940C76879[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >I thought that it wasn't good to have multiple anti virus programs because >they want to take over and mess up more then it helps. We are using McAfee >because it is free with our Comcast. > > Amee > "Veris and Amee Young" <verisyoung[ at ]comcast.net> wrote in message > news:5373DC88-46E3-45C0-986E-26F366AE3CFB[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Hi >> >> Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop >> are gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to >> safe mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to >> get in to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we >> can't see any icon or get in to programs? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Amee >
I would not use McAfee even if they paid me. With the possible exception of Norton, any other product does a better job. I do have both Spybot and Ad-aware on my systems. They only run when I invoke them. Jim
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Hi Youngs,
As said by previous posters, that the real problem of having multiple antivirus is conflicting resident scanners. I have avast free edition for my personal use, and I think it is good enough. NOD32 is rather overkill if you are just casual users. Anyway, the link at the bottom is to download the multiple AV program they were talking about. Read the webby carefully.
HTH,
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/01/09/scan-your-computer-with-multiple-anti-virus-for-free/
"inavlis" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi Youngs, > > As stated earlier use the F8. If the problem still persists, pops in the > installation CD to do a recovery console. Your data will still be intact > though your app stability may get compromised afterwards (just reinstall the > apps) > > HTH, > > > "Veris and Amee Young" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see any > > icon or get in to programs? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Amee > >
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:10:00 -0800, inavlis <inavlis[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Hi Youngs, > > As said by previous posters, that the real problem of having multiple > antivirus is conflicting resident scanners. I have avast free edition for my > personal use, and I think it is good enough. NOD32 is rather overkill if you > are just casual users.
I agree that the free Avast is a good choice, but I strongly disagree that NOD32 is "rather overkill." Good as Avast is, NOD32 is even better, and the better the product that you use, the more secure you will be.
> Anyway, the link at the bottom is to download the > multiple AV program they were talking about. Read the webby carefully. > > HTH, > > http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/01/09/scan-your-computer-with-multiple-anti-virus-for-free/ > > "inavlis" wrote: > > > Hi Youngs, > > > > As stated earlier use the F8. If the problem still persists, pops in the > > installation CD to do a recovery console. Your data will still be intact > > though your app stability may get compromised afterwards (just reinstall the > > apps) > > > > HTH, > > > > > > "Veris and Amee Young" wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Hubby was on pc and we think we have virus. All the icons from desktop are > > > gone. I can't use the windows button or anything. We tried to go to safe > > > mode but that is not working. We put the xp pro disk in cd drive to get in > > > to safe mode no luck. How can we see and scan for virus if we can't see any > > > icon or get in to programs? > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Amee > > >
-- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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