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Partition problem.
rewindurmind <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/1/2008 11:17:38 PM
Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there? Any help is appreciated, thanks. -- rewindurmind
Re: Partition problem.
Jawade <Henk_Jawade[ at ]hotmail.com> 11/2/2008 12:01:49 AM
In article <098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com>, guest[ at ]unknown-email.com says...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Do you see only the first partition?


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Re: Partition problem.
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 11/2/2008 12:05:32 AM

"rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.
>
>





I advise you to NOT install XP after Vista

you will end up with problems...


VIZ: Vista will not boot
and you'd have to repair the boot loader. etc

If your Vista installation is working OK,
then don't bother with XP




Re: Partition problem.
"John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> 11/2/2008 12:12:10 AM
Create the partittion from the freespace you have using the XP install drive
during the install.

"rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.
>
>
> --
> rewindurmind

Re: Partition problem.
"Rick Rogers" <rick[ at ]mvps.org> 11/2/2008 12:13:34 AM
Hi,

Don't create the volume, just the free space. Allow XP setup to create the
volume and format it as it cannot install to one created under Vista due to
minor changes in the way the file system is implemented.

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My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.
>
>
> --
> rewindurmind

Re: Partition problem.
rewindurmind <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/2/2008 12:26:04 AM
John Barnes;876519 Wrote: > Create the partittion from the freespace you have using the XP install > drive > during the install. > > "rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message > news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > > > > > > > Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. > > Vista > > > is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new > > > partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my > > > comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there? > > > > > > Any help is appreciated, thanks. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > rewindurmind > > Tried, there is none... -- rewindurmind
Re: Partition problem.
barman58 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/2/2008 12:31:48 AM
Hi rewindurmind, you may want to delete the "e" partition to just leave the free space that you can then use to create the xp partition during install. once you have installed XP - on first reboot eyou will need to do a start-up repair from you vista dvd. you can then use EasyBCD or VistaBootPro to set-up the dual boot from within vista -- barman58 Regards,
*Nigel*
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Re: Partition problem.
rewindurmind <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> 11/2/2008 1:09:36 AM
barman58;876527 Wrote: > Hi rewindurmind, > > you may want to delete the "e" partition to just leave the free space > that you can then use to create the xp partition during install. > once you have installed XP - on first reboot eyou will need to do a > start-up repair from you vista dvd. you can then use EasyBCD or > VistaBootPro to set-up the dual boot from within vista Hi. Thanks, I tried this and is still not working. -- rewindurmind
Re: Partition problem.
"\"NachtWacht\"" <rembrandt[ at ]van.ryn> 11/2/2008 1:53:19 AM
rewindurmind <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> schreef in bericht news:eaa29e0f5d39ea0cf89f14d2f863985a[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
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>
> barman58;876527 Wrote:
> > Hi rewindurmind,
> >
> > you may want to delete the "e" partition to just leave the free space
> > that you can then use to create the xp partition during install.
> > once you have installed XP - on first reboot eyou will need to do a
> > start-up repair from you vista dvd. you can then use EasyBCD or
> > VistaBootPro to set-up the dual boot from within vista
>
> Hi. Thanks, I tried this and is still not working.

What does not working? What do you see? What did you trying?
Have you a normal XP-CD? Do you startup with it?

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Re: Partition problem.
DDW <dd.wright[ at ]KILLSPAMcomcast.net> 11/2/2008 4:01:50 AM
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:05:32 -0500, "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote:

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>I advise you to NOT install XP after Vista

You're the guy who told a person to create a black JPG and use that to
get a black desktop background too.

Your advice is questionable.

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Re: Partition problem.
"philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> 11/2/2008 12:09:25 PM

"DDW" <dd.wright[ at ]KILLSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:kf9qg4d8720aeelo7e6p5pic1qfbudheq4[ at ]4ax.com...
[Quoted Text]
> On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:05:32 -0500, "philo" <philo[ at ]privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >I advise you to NOT install XP after Vista
>
> You're the guy who told a person to create a black JPG and use that to
> get a black desktop background too.
>
> Your advice is questionable.
>
> DDW
>

The .jpg idea was (I'll admit) not one of the best pieces of advice I've
ever given...
and I gave deference to the first person who came up with something better.

However, it would have worked and have given the OP what they wanted...
a choice of that background in their options...
So as clumsy as it was...it was not without some merit.

Besides, it has nothing to do with the question being asked here,
you replied to the wrong thread!

As to installing XP after Vista.
Unless one really knows how to repair the Vista boot loader,
the OP here is going to find that after they install XP, they will not have
access to Vista.

You were unable to suggest anything better.


Plus, I don't see any logical reason for install XP after Vista...
unless Vista has just plain been unusable.
In that case I'd say to just format the drive and get rid of Vista.





Re: Partition problem.
"Ed Sowell" <jag_man__REM0VE__653[ at ]sbcglobal.net> 11/2/2008 4:37:50 PM
I had the same experience last week. Barman is correct in what to do. Read
the thread Multiboot vista options 10/28/08.

In my case the XP install would fail midway, so to speak. It would create
the Windows directory in the new partition but would not do the reboot. What
I had to do was to boot with the Vista installation DVD and use the Vista
Disk Manager to repair the Vista startup sequence and to assign a drive
letter AND set the new partition Active. At that point, but not before, I
could actually see the partition and Windows directory. Then I used
VistaBootPro from Vista to set up a boot menu. That required doing
Diagnostics to get the new partition to show up as an OS available for
adding to the boot menu. I then added it and changed its name to XP Pro.
rebooting the machine then gave me the expected Vista and XP Pro options.
The first time it booted into XP it asked me for the XP installation CD so
it could complete the XP installation. Afterwards, both XP and Vista work
properly.

So, it is indeed possible to do an XP installation after Vista. However,
it's much easier to do it first if that is an available option for you.

Ed

"rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:eaa29e0f5d39ea0cf89f14d2f863985a[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> barman58;876527 Wrote:
>> Hi rewindurmind,
>>
>> you may want to delete the "e" partition to just leave the free space
>> that you can then use to create the xp partition during install.
>> once you have installed XP - on first reboot eyou will need to do a
>> start-up repair from you vista dvd. you can then use EasyBCD or
>> VistaBootPro to set-up the dual boot from within vista
>
> Hi. Thanks, I tried this and is still not working.
>
>
> --
> rewindurmind

Re: Partition problem.
andy <bogusaddress[ at ]bogusaddress.123> 11/2/2008 8:19:15 PM
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:17:38 -0500, rewindurmind
<guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
>Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
>is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
>partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
>comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
>Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Sounds like the SATA interface on the motherboard is set to AHCI. If
so, you have to load the correct Windows XP AHCI driver for the
motherboard SATA interface (via F6, floppy disk) during Setup.
Re: Partition problem.
"Chad Harris" <CH[ at ]windows7.meshnet> 11/2/2008 9:54:30 PM
Anyone who advised you to install the older OS (XP in this case) first is
quite correct. I dual and tripple boot all the time because I like to
compare OS's. There is far less chance of problem by installing the older
or prior OS first and that's a firm rule in Windows, and was good advice.
However, it can be done since you probably don't want to format your Vista
boot. If you were starting clean older first is always the way to go.

How to dual boot Vista and XP (with Vista installed first) -- the
step-by-step guide with screenshots

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed_first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm


Create a boot partition in Vista for Dual or Triple Booting or Additional
Booting
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/2a2a77f9-19a9-4112-adbe-c605ef448a0f1033.mspx

How to Resize Partition in Vista
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+make+partition+vista&aq=f&oq=

Good luck,

CH


"rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.
>
>
> --
> rewindurmind

Re: Partition problem.
"Chad Harris" <CH[ at ]windows7.meshnet> 11/2/2008 10:04:12 PM
I think Rick's advice is the key to your obstacle, and that way you will
establish a boot partition that will work.

CH

"rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
[Quoted Text]
>
> Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks.
>
>
> --
> rewindurmind

Re: Partition problem.
Mick Murphy 11/3/2008 9:24:00 AM
Vista is the 1st MS OS where you do NOT have to install the older OS (in this
case XP) 1st
--
Mad Mike


"philo" wrote:

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>
> "rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
> > is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
> > partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
> > comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated, thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> I advise you to NOT install XP after Vista
>
> you will end up with problems...
>
>
> VIZ: Vista will not boot
> and you'd have to repair the boot loader. etc
>
> If your Vista installation is working OK,
> then don't bother with XP
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Partition problem.
Mick Murphy 11/3/2008 9:26:00 AM
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed_first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm

Have a read of the above link.
That is how it is supposed to be done.
--
Mad Mike


"rewindurmind" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> barman58;876527 Wrote:
> > Hi rewindurmind,
> >
> > you may want to delete the "e" partition to just leave the free space
> > that you can then use to create the xp partition during install.
> > once you have installed XP - on first reboot eyou will need to do a
> > start-up repair from you vista dvd. you can then use EasyBCD or
> > VistaBootPro to set-up the dual boot from within vista
>
> Hi. Thanks, I tried this and is still not working.
>
>
> --
> rewindurmind
>
Re: Partition problem.
"John Barnes" <JBarnes[ at ]email.com> 11/3/2008 2:13:01 PM
The older system is never able to understand the newer systems booting
requirements and unless unchanged, which rarely happens, the newer systems
boot process is overwritten. This is and has always been the case.
Installing XP after Vista or XP after XP64 etc always requires some process
to recover the newer systems boot process. Vista has the start-up repair
which is a user friendly advance, but still requires user knowledge and
action to accomplish.

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9926AFD2-6489-4A48-91DC-1618A0FB8BB2[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Vista is the 1st MS OS where you do NOT have to install the older OS (in
> this
> case XP) 1st
> --
> Mad Mike
>
>
> "philo" wrote:
>
>>
>> "rewindurmind" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:098f0af97f11c287c6fa08795871896f[ at ]nntp-gateway.com...
>> >
>> > Hi. I am having problems dual booting both Vista x64 and XP SP2. Vista
>> > is currently installed, so I shrank the HDD volume and created a new
>> > partition called "E", then formatted to NTFS. But, when I boot off my
>> > comp to install XP on this partition, the partition isn't there?
>> >
>> > Any help is appreciated, thanks.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I advise you to NOT install XP after Vista
>>
>> you will end up with problems...
>>
>>
>> VIZ: Vista will not boot
>> and you'd have to repair the boot loader. etc
>>
>> If your Vista installation is working OK,
>> then don't bother with XP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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