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I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit
system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install
on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting
compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I
get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the
version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for
this?
Thanks in advance.
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Anything that uses a 16bit installer will not [install], and missing 64bit
driver support will not [run] - the installer you can circumvent, you could
move an installed copy from a 32bit system over onto your 64bit system, but
you will probably experience trouble with the Registry.
Frankly: don't you think you need a modern version? Since you know you want
the product, the expense should be 'worth it'.
Tony. . .
"javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text] >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit
> system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install
> on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting
> compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I
> get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the
> version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for
> this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 08:16:06 +0100, "Tony Sperling"
<tony-sperling-at-dbmail-dk> wrote:
[Quoted Text] >Anything that uses a 16bit installer will not [install], and missing 64bit
>driver support will not [run] - the installer you can circumvent, you could
>move an installed copy from a 32bit system over onto your 64bit system, but
>you will probably experience trouble with the Registry.
>
>Frankly: don't you think you need a modern version? Since you know you want
>the product, the expense should be 'worth it'.
>
If you do not want to spend money for upgrading, you can setup a
virtual machine using Microsoft Virtual PC, which is freeware.
You can then install Windows XP 32-bit in this virtual machine and
your application will be happily running.
---
Stefan Pendl
Windows XP Pro SP 3
Celeron M 1.3 GHz
752 MB DDR RAM
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Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that
didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The
easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a virtual
machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a
quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the
application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization solution
such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
[Quoted Text] >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit
> system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install
> on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting
> compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I
> get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the
> version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for
> this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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On Dec 8, 7:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a virtual > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization solution > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > this? > > > Thanks in advance.
I just ran into the same problem. [Pretty good considering the number
of years I have run X64.] I noticed older posts on this newsgroup
referred to "wininstall" . There is now a free LE (lame edition).
Howeve, my 16 bit app is not a .msi, but a .exe. I'm not sure how to
get the program into wininstall.
I tried dosbox and the window just shut down. When I tried the program
on an old win2kpro machine, the program complained that there wasn't
enough memory.
I believe the program is 32 bits, but the installer is 16 bits. Is
there some manner that I could request the program such that I could
install it by hand?
This is the program in question:
<http://www.cosmic.com.au/acarsanalyser/v3/DownloadRegister/
download.asp>
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You're pretty much on your own with this. You can try contacting the
manufacturer/developer, but IME that's rarely going to lead to much. Failing
that, you can install the app in a 32-bit OS, capturing all the registry
changes and locations. Move the program to your 64-bit machine, and make the
necessary registry changes. BUT, keep in mind that there is both file system
and registry path redirection going on, making this not nearly as clean as
you might want.
Or just run it in a VM. Seriously, anything that will run on Windows 2000 or
Windows XP would likely run in a smallish VM of ~256 Mb of RAM or even less.
And if it will run in Win9x, you can run a tiny VM.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
<miso[ at ]sushi.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 7:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > virtual > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > solution > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > this? > > > Thanks in advance.
I just ran into the same problem. [Pretty good considering the number
of years I have run X64.] I noticed older posts on this newsgroup
referred to "wininstall" . There is now a free LE (lame edition).
Howeve, my 16 bit app is not a .msi, but a .exe. I'm not sure how to
get the program into wininstall.
I tried dosbox and the window just shut down. When I tried the program
on an old win2kpro machine, the program complained that there wasn't
enough memory.
I believe the program is 32 bits, but the installer is 16 bits. Is
there some manner that I could request the program such that I could
install it by hand?
This is the program in question:
<http://www.cosmic.com.au/acarsanalyser/v3/DownloadRegister/
download.asp>
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On Dec 9, 6:34 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You're pretty much on your own with this. You can try contacting the > manufacturer/developer, but IME that's rarely going to lead to much. Failing > that, you can install the app in a 32-bit OS, capturing all the registry > changes and locations. Move the program to your 64-bit machine, and make the > necessary registry changes. BUT, keep in mind that there is both file system > and registry path redirection going on, making this not nearly as clean as > you might want. > > Or just run it in a VM. Seriously, anything that will run on Windows 2000 or > Windows XP would likely run in a smallish VM of ~256 Mb of RAM or even less. > And if it will run in Win9x, you can run a tiny VM. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > <m...[ at ]sushi.com> wrote in message > > news:9a85beed-6275-4d31-bbb6-fd7ecefe776f[ at ]r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 8, 7:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" > > > > <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: > > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > > virtual > > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > > solution > > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > > -- > > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/prof...> > > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com.... > > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > > this? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > I just ran into the same problem. [Pretty good considering the number > of years I have run X64.] I noticed older posts on this newsgroup > referred to "wininstall" . There is now a free LE (lame edition). > Howeve, my 16 bit app is not a .msi, but a .exe. I'm not sure how to > get the program into wininstall. > > I tried dosbox and the window just shut down. When I tried the program > on an old win2kpro machine, the program complained that there wasn't > enough memory. > > I believe the program is 32 bits, but the installer is 16 bits. Is > there some manner that I could request the program such that I could > install it by hand? > > This is the program in question: > < http://www.cosmic.com.au/acarsanalyser/v3/DownloadRegister/> download.asp>
This is what I got from the author of the program:
It is built using a program called Setup Specialist. It offers 16 and
32 bit Operating Systems, all of my installations are done as a 32 bit
system, so am a bit surprised. I had a look on their site and there is
no mention of 64 bit system, but as you say it should install as a 32
bit program.
I already tried the install on win2kpro. The complaint was a lack of
memory. Is there a way to disassemble an .exe. file?
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I'd wager it may be targetted at 32-bit, but clearly has some 16 bit code in
it.
Not sure why it's complaining about Win2k. It shouldn't. I'm assuming it was
at least a 128 Mb Windows 2000 system.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
<miso[ at ]sushi.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 9, 6:34 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You're pretty much on your own with this. You can try contacting the > manufacturer/developer, but IME that's rarely going to lead to much. > Failing > that, you can install the app in a 32-bit OS, capturing all the registry > changes and locations. Move the program to your 64-bit machine, and make > the > necessary registry changes. BUT, keep in mind that there is both file > system > and registry path redirection going on, making this not nearly as clean as > you might want. > > Or just run it in a VM. Seriously, anything that will run on Windows 2000 > or > Windows XP would likely run in a smallish VM of ~256 Mb of RAM or even > less. > And if it will run in Win9x, you can run a tiny VM. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > <m...[ at ]sushi.com> wrote in message > > news:9a85beed-6275-4d31-bbb6-fd7ecefe776f[ at ]r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 8, 7:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" > > > > <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: > > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. > > The > > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > > virtual > > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still > > a > > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > > solution > > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > > -- > > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/prof...> > > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > > this? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > I just ran into the same problem. [Pretty good considering the number > of years I have run X64.] I noticed older posts on this newsgroup > referred to "wininstall" . There is now a free LE (lame edition). > Howeve, my 16 bit app is not a .msi, but a .exe. I'm not sure how to > get the program into wininstall. > > I tried dosbox and the window just shut down. When I tried the program > on an old win2kpro machine, the program complained that there wasn't > enough memory. > > I believe the program is 32 bits, but the installer is 16 bits. Is > there some manner that I could request the program such that I could > install it by hand? > > This is the program in question: > < http://www.cosmic.com.au/acarsanalyser/v3/DownloadRegister/> download.asp>
This is what I got from the author of the program:
It is built using a program called Setup Specialist. It offers 16 and
32 bit Operating Systems, all of my installations are done as a 32 bit
system, so am a bit surprised. I had a look on their site and there is
no mention of 64 bit system, but as you say it should install as a 32
bit program.
I already tried the install on win2kpro. The complaint was a lack of
memory. Is there a way to disassemble an .exe. file?
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On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a virtual > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization solution > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > this? > > > Thanks in advance.
Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the
Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the
same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics
card. I understand that the graphics card features are not
transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but
that will have to wait a while.
Thanks again.
J
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The virtualized graphics card is pretty limited in a VM. If your program is
requiring high end graphics, virtualization isn't a solution.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > virtual > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > solution > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > this? > > > Thanks in advance.
Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the
Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the
same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics
card. I understand that the graphics card features are not
transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but
that will have to wait a while.
Thanks again.
J
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On Dec 9, 4:26 pm, javelin <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" > > > > <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: > > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a virtual > > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization solution > > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > > -- > > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/prof...> > > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com.... > > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > > this? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the > Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the > same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics > card. I understand that the graphics card features are not > transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but > that will have to wait a while. > > Thanks again. > J
I thought VMWare has it's own drivers.
I tried Virtual PC once and got the feeling it was something MS bought
but never fertilized.
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CorelDraw 12 is not supported on Vista. There are reports that some have
successfully installed it on Vista, but this was presumably 32-bit Vista.
CorelDraw X3 and later are supported, but a few early shipments of X3 need
an update for Vista compatibility.
I don't know what the graphics card requirements are for CorelDraw, but if
it requires 3-D it will not work in a VM as the emulated graphics cards are
only 2-D. Possibly you could increase the default graphics memory allocation
as the default tends to be very small and might be too low.
"javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:42aa03a4-ac39-4460-8073-343e4cc1fbc5[ at ]d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. The > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > virtual > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still a > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > solution > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > this? > > > Thanks in advance.
Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the
Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the
same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics
card. I understand that the graphics card features are not
transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but
that will have to wait a while.
Thanks again.
J
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On 09/12/2008 in message
<4444aa69-7642-4945-ab6d-57de291f6140[ at ]f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
miso[ at ]sushi.com wrote:
[Quoted Text] >I already tried the install on win2kpro. The complaint was a lack of
>memory. Is there a way to disassemble an .exe. file?
I'm sure this came up here recently - the out of memory is one of those
mis-leading ones that often means there is another problem. It may be
worth Googling for the exact error message.
--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.
(Ken Olson, president Digital Equipment, 1977)
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Virtual PC was bought (as was Virtual Server). But it's definitely being
fertilized. I'm expecting to see something interesting in the Win7 time
frame, but have no idea what it's going to look like. The people working on
it, or who know about it, are being VERY quiet.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
<miso[ at ]sushi.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 9, 4:26 pm, javelin <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" > > > > <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: > > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. > > The > > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > > virtual > > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still > > a > > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > > solution > > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > > -- > > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/prof...> > > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I > > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > > this? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the > Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the > same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics > card. I understand that the graphics card features are not > transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but > that will have to wait a while. > > Thanks again. > J
I thought VMWare has it's own drivers.
I tried Virtual PC once and got the feeling it was something MS bought
but never fertilized.
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No way to increase it that I'm aware of. Unfortunately.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > CorelDraw 12 is not supported on Vista. There are reports that some have > successfully installed it on Vista, but this was presumably 32-bit Vista. > CorelDraw X3 and later are supported, but a few early shipments of X3 need > an update for Vista compatibility. > > I don't know what the graphics card requirements are for CorelDraw, but if > it requires 3-D it will not work in a VM as the emulated graphics cards > are only 2-D. Possibly you could increase the default graphics memory > allocation as the default tends to be very small and might be too low. > > > > "javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > news:42aa03a4-ac39-4460-8073-343e4cc1fbc5[ at ]d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" > <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: >> Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that >> didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. >> The >> easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a >> virtual >> machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still >> a >> quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the >> application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization >> solution >> such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. >> >> -- >> Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel>> >> "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >> >> >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit >> > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install >> > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting >> > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I >> > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the >> > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for >> > this? >> >> > Thanks in advance. > > Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the > Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the > same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics > card. I understand that the graphics card features are not > transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but > that will have to wait a while. > > Thanks again. > J
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Perhaps not with VirtualPC, but you can with VirtualBox and VMware.
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > No way to increase it that I'm aware of. Unfortunately. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > "Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message > news:O6WODeqWJHA.3920[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> CorelDraw 12 is not supported on Vista. There are reports that some have >> successfully installed it on Vista, but this was presumably 32-bit Vista. >> CorelDraw X3 and later are supported, but a few early shipments of X3 >> need an update for Vista compatibility. >> >> I don't know what the graphics card requirements are for CorelDraw, but >> if it requires 3-D it will not work in a VM as the emulated graphics >> cards are only 2-D. Possibly you could increase the default graphics >> memory allocation as the default tends to be very small and might be too >> low. >> >> >> >> "javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:42aa03a4-ac39-4460-8073-343e4cc1fbc5[ at ]d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com... >> On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" >> <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: >>> Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that >>> didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. >>> The >>> easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a >>> virtual >>> machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still >>> a >>> quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the >>> application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization >>> solution >>> such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel>>> >>> "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit >>> > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install >>> > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting >>> > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. I >>> > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the >>> > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for >>> > this? >>> >>> > Thanks in advance. >> >> Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the >> Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the >> same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics >> card. I understand that the graphics card features are not >> transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but >> that will have to wait a while. >> >> Thanks again. >> J >
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Possibly. Never used Virtualbox. And gave up on VMWare for my environment -
it fragmented RAM _way_ too much.
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Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] > Perhaps not with VirtualPC, but you can with VirtualBox and VMware. > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:uyQqQvtWJHA.4632[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> No way to increase it that I'm aware of. Unfortunately. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel>> >> "Dominic Payer" <dcp[ at ]dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:O6WODeqWJHA.3920[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> CorelDraw 12 is not supported on Vista. There are reports that some have >>> successfully installed it on Vista, but this was presumably 32-bit >>> Vista. CorelDraw X3 and later are supported, but a few early shipments >>> of X3 need an update for Vista compatibility. >>> >>> I don't know what the graphics card requirements are for CorelDraw, but >>> if it requires 3-D it will not work in a VM as the emulated graphics >>> cards are only 2-D. Possibly you could increase the default graphics >>> memory allocation as the default tends to be very small and might be too >>> low. >>> >>> >>> >>> "javelin" <jmevalentin[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:42aa03a4-ac39-4460-8073-343e4cc1fbc5[ at ]d42g2000prb.googlegroups.com... >>> On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" >>> <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: >>>> Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that >>>> didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies. >>>> The >>>> easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a >>>> virtual >>>> machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's >>>> still a >>>> quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the >>>> application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization >>>> solution >>>> such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel>>>> >>>> "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit >>>> > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't >>>> > install >>>> > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried >>>> > setting >>>> > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference. >>>> > I >>>> > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the >>>> > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for >>>> > this? >>>> >>>> > Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the >>> Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the >>> same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics >>> card. I understand that the graphics card features are not >>> transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but >>> that will have to wait a while. >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> J >> >
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On Dec 10, 7:26 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
<char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > Virtual PC was bought (as was Virtual Server). But it's definitely being > fertilized. I'm expecting to see something interesting in the Win7 time > frame, but have no idea what it's going to look like. The people working on > it, or who know about it, are being VERY quiet. > > -- > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel> > <m...[ at ]sushi.com> wrote in message > > news:0ee6de6a-7e8d-4d4f-9a38-f4dad3088782[ at ]d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 9, 4:26 pm, javelin <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 8, 9:03 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP" > > > <char...[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote: > > > Many older 32-bit programs used a 16 bit installer, and even those that > > > didn't have other limitations such as hard coded version dependencies.. > > > The > > > easiest workaround is as Stefan suggests - run the application in a > > > virtual > > > machine on your Vista 64 box. There are some limitations, but it's still > > > a > > > quite viable workaround. If you _need_ direct USB support for the > > > application, you will have to chose a non-Microsoft virtualization > > > solution > > > such as VMWare. But otherwise, Virtual PC is a good choice. > > > > -- > > > Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/prof...> > > > "javelin" <jmevalen...[ at ]gmail.com> wrote in message > > > >news:0fb1f1f2-786b-4ed4-a2b7-91c998754f01[ at ]l42g2000yqe.googlegroups.com.... > > > > >I have noticed that some older apps won't install on my new 64bit > > > > system (ie: CorelDraw 12). Is it possible that some just won't install > > > > on this new toy? Anything that can be done? I've already tried setting > > > > compatibility to Windows XP (SP2), but it doesn't make a difference.. I > > > > get the message, "The version of this file is not compatible with the > > > > version of Windows you're running". Any chance of a real solution for > > > > this? > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Thanks Stefan and Charlie, however, I can't get this to install on the > > Virtual PC either. I don't know about VMware, but I'm guessing the > > same problem will occur if it has anything to do with the graphics > > card. I understand that the graphics card features are not > > transferable to the VM box. I'd get the latest software version, but > > that will have to wait a while. > > > Thanks again. > > J > > I thought VMWare has it's own drivers. > > I tried Virtual PC once and got the feeling it was something MS bought > but never fertilized.
Yes, there seems to be a good market for virtualization, though I
think it's overblown. [If I had to install and test software for a
living, I'd have VMware on my box, if only to create a playpen.]
In any event, I contacted the author of the program in question and he
recompiled it. There was something funky about the last build.
It is now installed, though I have other problems. The program uses
MDAC and Jet, which I need to figure out regarding what I have to
install on X64.
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[Quoted Text] >>It is now installed, though I have other problems. The program uses
>>MDAC and Jet, which I need to figure out regarding what I have to
>>install on X64.
MDAC and Jet are natively present in WOW64 on all X64 OS's to date. There is
no 64bit Jet and never will be as it is deprecated, but this doesn't matter
for you as your app is not 64bit.
Cheers
Doug Forster
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On Dec 11, 5:53 pm, "Doug Forster" <nob...[ at ]nowhere.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text] > >>It is now installed, though I have other problems. The program uses
> >>MDAC and Jet, which I need to figure out regarding what I have to
> >>install on X64.
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> MDAC and Jet are natively present in WOW64 on all X64 OS's to date. There is
> no 64bit Jet and never will be as it is deprecated, but this doesn't matter
> for you as your app is not 64bit.
>
> Cheers
> Doug Forster
Sounds good to me. Thanks. Still some odd bugs, but the author is
working on it.
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