External hard drive "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> 12/30/2008 3:47:18 PM I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less than one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I will not consider buying another external drive from WD. I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all 7200 RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is the best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard Drive Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive

Re: External hard drive "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> 12/30/2008 3:55:59 PM None of them are the best, things break, that's the way it is, buy what you want, taking into account storage size and warranty, it's not at all impossible that what ever you buy could fail well before your WD did. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote in message news:A5BF5EF6-4C1E-43B6-9F4A-14AEB23EFC5E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less > than one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I > will not consider buying another external drive from WD. > > I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all 7200 > RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is the > best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. > > Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard > Drive > > Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL > HARD DRIVE > > LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive > > Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive > > Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive > > > > > > >

Re: External hard drive "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/30/2008 4:05:33 PM If you were to purchase a good external eSATA enclosure and a mating hard drive, you would save a bundle of money. If your computer is not eSATA compatible you will have to purchase an add in card to drive the enclosure/drive. This combination will work with any decent backup program. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote in message news:A5BF5EF6-4C1E-43B6-9F4A-14AEB23EFC5E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less > than one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I > will not consider buying another external drive from WD. > > I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all 7200 > RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is the > best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. > > Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard > Drive > > Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL > HARD DRIVE > > LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive > > Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive > > Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive > > > > > > >

Re: External hard drive "CBoom" <someone[ at ]microsoft.com> 12/30/2008 4:35:10 PM Hello I would never buy another seagate after what I went though with these drives! Western Digital is the best... For internal drives I love the BLACK series. I have a review here: http://computerboom.blogspot.com/2008/11/hard-disk-review-western-digital-black.html Just some extra info...>>>>>> You mention 7200 RPM but you also mention you want to use firewire... firewire is too slow for the RPM to matter in this case.. unless you use eSata the RPM doesn't matter since usb2.0 and firewire busses are slower than what even a 5400 rpm drive can serve (read & write) eSata however is the same speed as if it was an internal drive!!! this is the way to go! Also interesting are some new externals that offer ethernet connections (in this case I would go with a 1Gb ethernet model!) "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote in message news:A5BF5EF6-4C1E-43B6-9F4A-14AEB23EFC5E[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less > than one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I > will not consider buying another external drive from WD. > > I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all 7200 > RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is the > best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. > > Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard > Drive > > Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL > HARD DRIVE > > LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive > > Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive > > Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive > > > > > > >

Re: External hard drive "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> 12/30/2008 5:38:22 PM The warranty is for one year. However, I have had it for one year and two days. I was told the warranty is expired and they will not replace it. That's why I'll never buy anything from WD again. "ray" <ray[ at ]zianet.com> wrote in message news:6rv0meF3dus2U3[ at ]mid.individual.net... [Quoted Text] > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:47:18 -0500, C.B. wrote: > >> I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less than >> one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I will >> not consider buying another external drive from WD. > > How long is the warranty? It's often one year - they may replace it for > free. > >> >> I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all >> 7200 >> RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is >> the best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. >> >> Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard >> Drive >> >> Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL >> HARD DRIVE >> >> LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive >> >> Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive >> >> Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive >

Re: External hard drive "Earle Horton" <earleh[ at ]terra.com.invalid> 12/30/2008 6:07:07 PM Can you remove the drive and install it in another enclosure or computer? I can understand not wanting to buy from them again, but the drive is still in principle usable. Earle "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote in message news:%23KxOFVqaJHA.684[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > The warranty is for one year. However, I have had it for one year and two > days. I was told the warranty is expired and they will not replace it. > That's why I'll never buy anything from WD again. > > "ray" <ray[ at ]zianet.com> wrote in message > news:6rv0meF3dus2U3[ at ]mid.individual.net... >> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:47:18 -0500, C.B. wrote: >> >>> I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less than >>> one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I will >>> not consider buying another external drive from WD. >> >> How long is the warranty? It's often one year - they may replace it for >> free. >> >>> >>> I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all >>> 7200 >>> RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is >>> the best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. >>> >>> Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard >>> Drive >>> >>> Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL >>> HARD DRIVE >>> >>> LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive >>> >>> Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive >>> >>> Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive >>

Re: External hard drive "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> 12/30/2008 6:19:31 PM Thanks for the reply, CBoom. The computer came with a two port, IEEE1394 connection and is SATA 2. I have it connected via ethernet cable. There is only one ethernet connection on the computer. Are there multiport ethernet adapters available and if so would this work? I have listed the motherboard specs below. The computer has a MicrosoftiSCSI Initiator. I couldn't tell you whether or not AHCI is enabled or if the SATA controllers are running in IDE emulation mode. I assume they are running in IDE mode. I couldn't tell you. That's above my head. MOTHERBOARD: Manufacturer Dell Inc Model 0UW457 Version A03 Serial Number ..CN698616BI0D14. Chipset Vendor Nvidia Corp Chipset Model C51 PCI Express Bridge South Bridge MCP51 LPC Bridge CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Cpu Socket Socket AM2 [Socket M2 ] Processor UpgradeMax CPU Speed 3000 MHz System Slots 2 PCI OnBoard devicesVideo (Enabled) nVidia Integrated Video Ethernet (Enabled) Broadcom 5754 Sound (Enabled) Sigmatel 9220 Audio Memory SummaryLocation System board or motherboard Maximum Capacity 16384 MBytes Memory Slots 4 Error Correction None Use System memory Maximum Memory Module Size 4096 MBytes CHIPSET: Bus/Dev./Func. Type Class Type Manufacturer Device Name Sub System Device Vendor Sub System Device Name 00 / 00 / 00 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Host Bridge Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 01 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Memory Controller 0 Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 02 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Memory Controller 1 Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 03 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Memory Controller 5 Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 04 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Memory Controller 4 Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 05 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Host Bridge Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 06 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Memory Controller 3 Nvidia Corp00 / 00 / 07 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp C51 Memory Controller 2 Nvidia Corp00 / 02 / 00 PCI PCI to PCI Bridge Nvidia Corp C51 PCI Express Bridge00 / 03 / 00 PCI PCI to PCI Bridge Nvidia Corp C51 PCI Express Bridge00 / 04 / 00 PCI PCI to PCI Bridge Nvidia Corp C51 PCI Express Bridge00 / 09 / 00 HT RAM Nvidia Corp MCP51 Host Bridge Nvidia Corp00 / 10 / 00 PCI PCI to ISA Bridge Nvidia Corp MCP51 LPC Bridge Dell Computer Corp00 / 10 / 01 PCI SMBus Controller Nvidia Corp MCP51 SMBus Dell Computer Corp00 / 10 / 02 PCI RAM Nvidia Corp MCP51 Memory Controller 0 Dell Computer Corp00 / 11 / 00 PCI USB (OHCI) Nvidia Corp MCP51 USB Controller Dell Computer Corp00 / 11 / 01 PCI USB 2.0 (EHCI) Nvidia Corp MCP51 USB Controller Dell Computer Corp00 / 14 / 00 PCI IDE (ATA) Nvidia Corp MCP51 Serial ATA Controller Dell Computer Corp00 / 15 / 00 PCI IDE (ATA) Nvidia Corp MCP51 Serial ATA Controller Dell Computer Corp00 / 16 / 00 HT PCI to PCI Bridge (Subtractive Decode) Nvidia Corp MCP51 PCI Bridge00 / 16 / 01 PCI Hi-Definition Audio Nvidia Corp MCP51 High Definition AudioDellComputer Corp 00 / 24 / 00 HT PCI to HOST Bridge Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration00 / 24 / 01 PCI PCI to HOST Bridge Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron Address Map00 / 24 / 02 PCI PCI to HOST Bridge Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron DRAM Controller00 / 24 / 03 PCI PCI to HOST Bridge Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron Miscellaneous Control03 / 00 / 00 PCI VGA Controller ATI Technologies Inc03/ 00 / 01 PCI Other Display Controller ATI Technologies Inc 04 / 07 / 00 PCI Ethernet Broadcom Corp BCM440x 100Base-TX Fast EthernetDellComputer Corp BCM440x 100Base-TX Fast Ethernet 04 / 08 / 00 PCI Other Conexant Systems CX11256 Software data fax modem with SmartCP Conexant Systems04 / 09 / 00 PCI OHCI FireWire Lucent/Agere Systems (Was: ATT MicroElectronics) FW322/323 IEEE1394 OHCI FireWire Controller Dell Computer CorpBIOS: Property Value BIOS Version DELL - 42302e31 )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG oC(Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG o.(BIOS Revision 1.1.11) o.(BIOS Revision 1.1.11) BIOS Date 08/02/07 BIOS Web Page http://www.award.com BIOS Vendor Dell Inc Version 1.1.11 Release 08/02/2007 BIOS Size 512 KB Characteristics - supports legacy USB - supports ACPI - Multi Processor supported by BIOS - supports INT 10 CGA/Mono video services - supports INT 17 printer services - supports INT 14 serial services - supports INT 09 and 8042 keyboard services - supports INT 05 print-screen - supports INT 13 3.5-inch/2.88M floppy services - supports INT 13 3.5-inch/720K floppy services - supports INT 13 5.25-inch/1.2M floppy services - supports INT 13 5.25-inch/360K floppy services - supports Enhanced Disk Drive specification - BIOS ROM is socketed - supports selectable boot - supports booting from CD-ROM - allows BIOS shadowing - upgradeable (Flash) BIOS - supports APM - supports Plug-and-Play - supports PCI - supports ISA DMI Version 2.4 [ at ]000F11E0 SYSTEM INFO: Property Value Manufacturer Dell Inc Product Name Dimension E521 Serial Number HVDYHC1 Chassis Desktop Machine Type AT/AT COMPATIBLE Disk Space Disk C: 230 GB Available, 278 GB Total, 230 GB Free Disk F: 434 GB Available, 465 GB Total, 434 GB Free Disk G: 280 GB Available, 465 GB Total, 280 GB Free Physical Memory 3326 MB Total, 1813 MB Free Memory Load 45% Virtual Memory 6886 MB Total, 5095 MB Free PageFile Name \??\C:\pagefile.sys PageFile Size 3626 MB In use 115 MB Max used 115 MB Registry Size 20 MB (current), 682 MB (maximum) Profile GUID {0f694440-6a70-11db-8eb3-806e6f6e6963} The system clock interval 15 ms "CBoom" <someone[ at ]microsoft.com> wrote in message news:gjdik0$6p5$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... [Quoted Text] > Hello > > I would never buy another seagate after what I went though with these > drives! > > Western Digital is the best... For internal drives I love the BLACK > series. > > I have a review here: > http://computerboom.blogspot.com/2008/11/hard-disk-review-western-digital-black.html > > Just some extra info...>>>>>> > > You mention 7200 RPM but you also mention you want to use firewire... > > firewire is too slow for the RPM to matter in this case.. > > unless you use eSata the RPM doesn't matter since usb2.0 and firewire > busses are slower than what even a 5400 rpm drive can serve (read & write) > > eSata however is the same speed as if it was an internal drive!!! this is > the way to go! > > Also interesting are some new externals that offer ethernet connections > (in this case I would go with a 1Gb ethernet model!) > > > > "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote in message > news:A5BF5EF6-4C1E-43B6-9F4A-14AEB23EFC5E[ at ]microsoft.com... >> I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less >> than one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I >> will not consider buying another external drive from WD. >> >> I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all 7200 >> RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is the >> best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. >> >> Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard >> Drive >> >> Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL >> HARD DRIVE >> >> LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive >> >> Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive >> >> Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: External hard drive "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> 12/30/2008 7:57:17 PM Like I said, opinion, I buy nothing but Seagate, WD would be my last choice. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "CBoom" <someone[ at ]microsoft.com> wrote in message news:gjdik0$6p5$1[ at ]news.motzarella.org... [Quoted Text] > Hello > > I would never buy another seagate after what I went though with these > drives! > > Western Digital is the best... For internal drives I love the BLACK > series. > > I have a review here: > http://computerboom.blogspot.com/2008/11/hard-disk-review-western-digital-black.html > > Just some extra info...>>>>>> > > You mention 7200 RPM but you also mention you want to use firewire... > > firewire is too slow for the RPM to matter in this case.. > > unless you use eSata the RPM doesn't matter since usb2.0 and firewire > busses are slower than what even a 5400 rpm drive can serve (read & write) > > eSata however is the same speed as if it was an internal drive!!! this is > the way to go! > > Also interesting are some new externals that offer ethernet connections > (in this case I would go with a 1Gb ethernet model!) > > > > "C.B." <notreallyc.b.mullen[ at ]windowslive.com> wrote in message > news:A5BF5EF6-4C1E-43B6-9F4A-14AEB23EFC5E[ at ]microsoft.com... >> I have two WD My Book 500GB firewire external drives. They are less >> than one year old and the button on one of them has broken. Therefore, I >> will not consider buying another external drive from WD. >> >> I am considering one of the three following drives. They are all 7200 >> RPM and IEEE 1394 . I would appreciate any input considering which is the >> best drive. Thank you in advance for any recommendations. >> >> Seagate 500 GB FreeAgent Xtreme USB2.0/FireWire 400/eSATA External Hard >> Drive >> >> Seagate 500GB 7200RPM USB2.0/1394/ESATA; SEAGATE FREEAGENT PRO EXTERNAL >> HARD DRIVE >> >> LaCie 500 GB USB / FireWire / eSATA d2 Quadra External Hard Drive >> >> Seagate 1 TB Firewire/eSata/USB 2.0 FreeAgent XTreme External Hard Drive >> >> Verbatim 1 TB FireWire / USB External Hard Drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: External hard drive Donald L McDaniel <orthocross[ at ]invalid.com> 12/30/2008 8:06:54 PM On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:57:17 -0500, "David B." <mail[ at ]nomail.net> wrote: [Quoted Text] >Like I said, opinion, I buy nothing but Seagate, WD would be my last choice. Remember this: eSATA drives will NOT run at SATA speeds UNLESS setup as RAID. IF you set them up as Legacy or IDE, they will run at IDE speeds, sure as shooting. Donald L McDaniel