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Thread: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Policy

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WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Policy
VJ 11/5/2008 7:59:02 PM
We have a Policy that sets the updates to install [ at ] 4am every morning well
after they synchronize to the WSUS server. The problem is most of the
clients are reporting they have downloaded the updates but have not installed
them. Some of the logs mention something that some security updates for
office will be installed once the Administrator logs in. It seems that the
clients are able to contact and synchronize with the Server and download
updates but they do not install them. We have instructed users to reboot
their PCs before leaving so that there are no logged on sessions and they are
following protocol. Not sure what else to look for. I've recently setup a
new client to test the synchronization and will update with results.
RE: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Policy
VJ 11/5/2008 8:09:01 PM
2008-10-20 18:14:00:014 1392 52c Report REPORT EVENT:
{B3B979B3-C9D9-4466-BE82-7657F23E2B98} 2008-10-20
18:13:59:998-0700 1 189 102 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 0 0 AutomaticUpdates Success Content
Install Installation Ready: The following updates are downloaded and ready
for installation. To install the updates, an administrator should log on to
this computer and Windows will prompt with further instructions: - Security
Update for Windows XP (KB954154) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB938464)
- Security Update for Access Snapshot Viewer 2003 (KB955439) - Security
Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB921598) - Security Update for 2007
Microsoft Office System (KB955936) - Security Update for Microsoft Office
2003 (KB953404) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB956841) - Security Update
for 2007 Microsoft Office System (KB954038) - Security Update for Windows XP
(KB954211)

"VJ" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> We have a Policy that sets the updates to install [ at ] 4am every morning well
> after they synchronize to the WSUS server. The problem is most of the
> clients are reporting they have downloaded the updates but have not installed
> them. Some of the logs mention something that some security updates for
> office will be installed once the Administrator logs in. It seems that the
> clients are able to contact and synchronize with the Server and download
> updates but they do not install them. We have instructed users to reboot
> their PCs before leaving so that there are no logged on sessions and they are
> following protocol. Not sure what else to look for. I've recently setup a
> new client to test the synchronization and will update with results.
RE: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
VJ 11/5/2008 8:50:11 PM
I have recently imaged a test machine and added it to the domain here is the
result of the log:

2008-11-05 12:18:12:537 1796 fb4 AU AU setting pending client directive to
'Install Approval'
2008-11-05 12:18:12:537 1796 fac Report REPORT EVENT:
{AC6828BC-FA3A-485F-9498-0F843F620177} 2008-11-05
12:18:07:970-0800 1 189 102 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 0 0 AutomaticUpdates Success Content
Install Installation Ready: The following updates are downloaded and ready
for installation. To install the updates, an administrator should log on to
this computer and Windows will prompt with further instructions: - Security
Update for Windows XP (KB954154) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB958644)
- Update for Windows XP (KB932823) - Security Update for Windows XP
(KB938464) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB950749) - Security Update for
Windows XP (KB951748) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB945553) - Security
Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB921598) - Security Update for Microsoft
Office PowerPoint 2003 (KB948988) - Update for Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Junk Email Filter (KB957257) - Security Update for Outlook Express for
Windows XP (KB951066) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB948590) -
Cumulative Security Update for ActiveX Killbits for Windows XP (KB950760) -
Update for Windows XP (KB952287) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB950762)
- Security Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB953404) - Security Update for
Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (KB950213) - Security Update for Windows XP
(KB956841) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB954211) - Security Update for
Windows XP (K
2008-11-05 12:18:12:537 1796 fac Report REPORT EVENT:
{54BA613F-A161-4EA1-81A8-475784D3DFF9} 2008-11-05
12:18:07:970-0800 1 162 101 {41D1F3CB-6ABF-4AF8-BBB2-FD19E6501524} 102 0 AutomaticUpdates Success Content Download Download succeeded.
2008-11-05 12:18:12:537 1796 fac Report REPORT EVENT:
{4D616DC2-C2CA-4393-9FA3-6414FDE001C3} 2008-11-05
12:18:12:537-0800 1 189 102 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 0 0 AutomaticUpdates Success Content
Install Installation Ready: The following updates are downloaded and ready
for installation. To install the updates, an administrator should log on to
this computer and Windows will prompt with further instructions: - Security
Update for Windows XP (KB954154) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB958644)
- Update for Windows XP (KB932823) - Security Update for Windows XP
(KB938464) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB950749) - Security Update for
Windows XP (KB951748) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB945553) - Security
Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB921598) - Security Update for Microsoft
Office PowerPoint 2003 (KB948988) - Update for Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Junk Email Filter (KB957257) - Security Update for Outlook Express for
Windows XP (KB951066) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB948590) -
Cumulative Security Update for ActiveX Killbits for Windows XP (KB950760) -
Update for Windows XP (KB952287) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB950762)
- Security Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB953404) - Security Update for
Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (KB950213) - Security Update for Windows XP
(KB956841) - Security Update for Windows XP (KB954211) - Security Update for
Windows XP (K
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING: RegisterComputer failure, error
= 0x8024400E, soap client error = 7, soap error code = 400, HTTP status code
= 200
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING: SOAP Fault: 0x000190
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING: faultstring:Fault occurred
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING:
ErrorCode:InternalServerError(5)
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING: Message:(null)
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING:
Method:"http://www.microsoft.com/SoftwareDistribution/Server/ClientWebService/RegisterComputer"
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING:
ID:de051ebe-8b1a-4e0c-ab5a-855abdacd15f
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING: PTError: 0x8024400e
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac PT WARNING:
ClientWebService->RegisterComputer failed, hr=0x8024400e, Not Fatal
2008-11-05 12:18:13:839 1796 fac Report Uploading 30 even


It looks like it contacted the server, downloaded the updates but did not
install them. Before I try a script to stop services, re-register wsus
registry settings, remove software dist and catroot2 files, silently install
the KB927891 patch, silently reinstall the most up to date client WU client
version 7.0.6000.381 to WU client version 7.2.6001.788, restart the services,
gpupdate /force and run wuauclt.exe /resetauthorization /detectnow.

Here is the Script:

[ at ]ECHO OFF & ECHO.
IF NOT EXIST fixlist.txt GOTO :POOP
IF /I "%1" EQU "X86" GOTO :DO_IT
IF /I "%1" EQU "X64" GOTO :DO_IT
IF /I "%1" EQU "mixed" GOTO :DO_IT
GOTO :NOOP

:DO_IT
CALL :BUILD_REG_FILE
FOR /F "tokens=1,2" %%a IN (fixlist.txt) DO CALL :PROCESS %%a %%b %1
GOTO :END

:BUILD_REG_FILE
ECHO Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00>
%TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG
ECHO.>>
%TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG
ECHO
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]>>
%TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG
ECHO "AccountDomainSid"=->>
%TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG
ECHO "PingID"=->>
%TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG
ECHO "SusClientId"=->>
%TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG
GOTO :END

:PROCESS
ECHO Attempting to fix \\%1:
ECHO - Stopping Automatic Updates service.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C NET STOP "Automatic Updates" /Y
ECHO - Stopping BITS.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C NET STOP "Background Intelligent Transfer Service"
/Y
ECHO - Stopping Cryptographic Services & START /MIN /WAIT PSEXEC.EXE
\\%1 CMD /C NET STOP "Cryptographic Services"
ECHO -Importing registry settings.. & START /MIN /WAIT CMD
/C COPY %TEMP%\FIXWSUS.REG \\%1\C$\FIXWSUS.REG
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGEDIT /S C:\FIXWSUS.REG
START /MIN /WAIT CMD
/C IF EXIST \\%1\C$\FIXWSUS.REG DEL \\%1\C$\FIXWSUS.REG
ECHO - Re-registering Windows Update components.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUAPI.DLL & REGSVR32 /s WUAPI.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUAUENG.DLL & REGSVR32 /s
WUAUENG.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUAUENG1.DLL & REGSVR32 /s
WUAUENG1.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u ATL.DLL & REGSVR32 /s ATL.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUCLTUI.DLL & REGSVR32 /s
WUCLTUI.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUPS.DLL & REGSVR32 /s WUPS.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUPS2.DLL & REGSVR32 /s WUPS2.DLL
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C REGSVR32 /s /u WUWEB.DLL & REGSVR32 /s WUWEB.DLL
ECHO - Flushing SoftwareDistribution folder.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C RMDIR /S /Q ^%WINDIR^%\SoftwareDistribution
ECHO - Deleting WindowsUpdate.log & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C DEL /f /s /q ^%windir^%\windowsupdate.log
ECHO - Renaming Security Catalog Folder & START /MIN /WAIT PSEXEC.EXE
\\%1 CMD /C DEL /f /s /q ^%windir^%\System32\Catroot2\*.*
IF EXIST WindowsUpdateAgent30-%2.exe ECHO - Installing
%2 Windows Update Agent 3.0.. & (
START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE -c \\%1 WindowsUpdateAgent30-%2.exe /norestart /quiet /wuforce
) ELSE (ECHO * MISSING %2 Windows Update Agent 3.0 patch..)
IF EXIST *WindowsXP-KB927891-v?-%2-ENU.exe ECHO - Installing
%2 KB927891.. & (
IF /I "%2" EQU "X86" START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE -c \\%1 WindowsXP-KB927891-v3-x86-ENU.exe /norestart /quiet
IF /I "%2" EQU "X64" START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE -c \\%1 WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB927891-v5-x64-ENU.exe
/norestart /quiet
) ELSE (ECHO * MISSING %2 KB927891 patch..)
ECHO - Starting Cryptographic Services.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C NET START "Cryptographic Services" /Y
ECHO - Starting BITS.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C NET START "Background Intelligent Transfer Service"
/Y
ECHO - Starting Automatic Updates service.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C NET START "Automatic Updates" /Y
ECHO - Forcing Group Policy Update... & START /MIN /WAIT PSEXEC.EXE
\\%1 CMD /C GPUPDATE /force
ECHO - Starting Windows Update Automatic Update Client.. & START /MIN /WAIT
PSEXEC.EXE \\%1 CMD /C wuauclt.exe /resetauthorization /detectnow
GOTO :END

:POOP
ECHO ERROR: fixlist.txt computer name list not found.
ECHO.
GOTO :END

:NOOP
ECHO ERROR: x86 (32-bit) or x64 (64-bit) client patches not specified.
ECHO.
ECHO One (1) command-line parameter *must* be passed in order for this
script to
ECHO function. Please use the following syntax:
ECHO.
ECHO FIXWSUS [x86, x64, OR mixed]
ECHO.
:END



Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Policy
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <lawrence[ at ]news.postalias> 11/5/2008 9:04:55 PM
"VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7D695959-7F66-4C67-8B9A-B3BDFF3F57ED[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> We have a Policy that sets the updates to install [ at ] 4am every morning well
> after they synchronize to the WSUS server. The problem is most of the
> clients are reporting they have downloaded the updates but have not
> installed
> them.

Part of this can be misunderstanding the entire end-to-end process of WSUS
update deployment.

The end-to-end process is such:

[1] The WSUS Server synchronizes at specified time(s) throughout the day,
plus/minus a small offset to ensure servers on the same sync schedule are
not synchronizing simultaneously.

[2] The WSUS =clients= synchronize (detect/report) at random times
throughout the day. By default this is every 22 hours (minus a random offset
of 1-20%), effectively creating a rolling synchronization schedule for
clients intended to ensure that the client load is evenly spread out around
the clock.

[3] The WSUS clients download, using BITS. BITS is a background,
bandwidth-throttled service to download files based on *available/unused*
bandwidth. The availability of this bandwidth is measured at each client's
LAN interface, and is dependent on the utilization of that specific
interface. On a client connected via switch, this would be based on the
client's actual utilization of the switched bandwidth; however, on a client
connected via HUB, this would be bsaed on the segment's shared bandwidth
utilization, and in a highly utilized hub-based segment, could result in
extremly low throughput for a particular client.

[3] The WSUS clients =install= at a specified time, once-per-week, or
once-per-day, by default this is "EveryDay-3am". In order for this
installation to happen, the update must have been fully downloaded (and
scheduled) prior to the actual scheduled installation time. Thus, it's quite
common that what you've experienced is that a client executed a normal
detection at 2am, initiated downloads, but the download did not complete
prior to 3am, thus missing the scheduled installation.

> Some of the logs mention something that some security updates for
> office will be installed once the Administrator logs in.

Another reason this might happen is that you *intend* for the client to be
configured with AUOptions='4' and a Scheduled Install time of EveryDay-3am,
but the policy has not properly applied, or the policy has been
misconfigured, or there are multiple police objects with conflicting
configurations -- and the client is actually configured with AUOptions='3',
which prevents an automated scheduled installation.

Or, if the client is still pending a reboot from a previous update
installation, ALL subsequent installations will be scheduled as
"administrator-required" activities, rather than scheduled at the regular
installation time. In this case the "administrator-required" activity is to
reboot the system, so that subsequent update installations can be
performed/scheduled.

I've also seen installations missed, with great wonderment by admins,
because the PCs were powered off. Contrary to great fantasy-based desires,
the client system must be powered on in order to install updates at the
scheduled time. I presume this is not the case with your situation, but
since you are instructing your users to "reboot... before leaving", you
should ensure that they're not actually shutting the systems down, or that
something is interfering with the 'reboot' causing to hang in a
'shutting-down' status.

Personally, I would teach the users how to =LOGOFF= the system, which will
accomplish the same desired results AND ensure that the system remains
powered on for necessary maintenance activities.


> Not sure what else to look for.
> I've recently setup a new client to test the synchronization and will
> update with results.

All details surrounding the entire state of the client, and activites
occuring during the scheduled installation event are captured in the
%windir%\WindowsUpdate.log. I would suggest a thorough review of the
WindowsUpdate.log from a selected client displaying this behavior. Post the
most recent detect and installation event entries if you'd like assistance
interpreting the log entries.




--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin

Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <lawrence[ at ]news.postalias> 11/5/2008 9:11:52 PM
"VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9838CCD7-3B88-49FE-B703-F6F01BEBF936[ at ]microsoft.com...

[Quoted Text]
> It looks like it contacted the server, downloaded the updates but did not
> install them.

What would be useful here is to see the log entries from the scheduled
installation event at 3am,
as well as the log entries from service startup (or the actual registry
values configured at
HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate).

> Before I try a script to stop services, re-register wsus
> registry settings, remove software dist and catroot2 files, silently
> install
> the KB927891 patch, silently reinstall the most up to date client WU
> client
> version 7.0.6000.381 to WU client version 7.2.6001.788, restart the
> services,
> gpupdate /force and run wuauclt.exe /resetauthorization /detectnow.

None of which is a recommended practice until we identify the =CAUSE= for
your observed behavior.

Yet another "throw mud at the wall script" because ONE of the statements
below MIGHT actually fix something in some previous installation that
exhibited behavior that could have been surgically fixed by merely executing
ONE of the statements contained in the below script.

My suggestion: Throw this script away, and let's diagnose the problem first.

The script, btw, convoluted that it is, is designed to delete unnecessary
registry keys from a WSUS client, when the clients have been improperly
cloned, and thus have duplicate SusClientID values. At this point there is
insufficient evidence to indicate that this is your issue (the more likely
cause at this point being either a simple misunderstanding of expected
behavior, or a misconfiguration of the actual policy being applied).

In fact, if it were your issue, we wouldn't be talking about updates not
installing -- we'd be talking about updates not *reporting* correctly.

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin

Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
VJ 11/5/2008 10:28:00 PM
Thank You Lawrence and belated apologies for the SPAM. I'll observe the
machine and check tomorrow to see that the downloaded updates are installed.
In the meantime I am seeing these errors on several machine logs:

WARNING: AU found no suitable session to launch client in




"Lawrence Garvin (MVP)" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> "VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7D695959-7F66-4C67-8B9A-B3BDFF3F57ED[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > We have a Policy that sets the updates to install [ at ] 4am every morning well
> > after they synchronize to the WSUS server. The problem is most of the
> > clients are reporting they have downloaded the updates but have not
> > installed
> > them.
>
> Part of this can be misunderstanding the entire end-to-end process of WSUS
> update deployment.
>
> The end-to-end process is such:
>
> [1] The WSUS Server synchronizes at specified time(s) throughout the day,
> plus/minus a small offset to ensure servers on the same sync schedule are
> not synchronizing simultaneously.
>
> [2] The WSUS =clients= synchronize (detect/report) at random times
> throughout the day. By default this is every 22 hours (minus a random offset
> of 1-20%), effectively creating a rolling synchronization schedule for
> clients intended to ensure that the client load is evenly spread out around
> the clock.
>
> [3] The WSUS clients download, using BITS. BITS is a background,
> bandwidth-throttled service to download files based on *available/unused*
> bandwidth. The availability of this bandwidth is measured at each client's
> LAN interface, and is dependent on the utilization of that specific
> interface. On a client connected via switch, this would be based on the
> client's actual utilization of the switched bandwidth; however, on a client
> connected via HUB, this would be bsaed on the segment's shared bandwidth
> utilization, and in a highly utilized hub-based segment, could result in
> extremly low throughput for a particular client.
>
> [3] The WSUS clients =install= at a specified time, once-per-week, or
> once-per-day, by default this is "EveryDay-3am". In order for this
> installation to happen, the update must have been fully downloaded (and
> scheduled) prior to the actual scheduled installation time. Thus, it's quite
> common that what you've experienced is that a client executed a normal
> detection at 2am, initiated downloads, but the download did not complete
> prior to 3am, thus missing the scheduled installation.
>
> > Some of the logs mention something that some security updates for
> > office will be installed once the Administrator logs in.
>
> Another reason this might happen is that you *intend* for the client to be
> configured with AUOptions='4' and a Scheduled Install time of EveryDay-3am,
> but the policy has not properly applied, or the policy has been
> misconfigured, or there are multiple police objects with conflicting
> configurations -- and the client is actually configured with AUOptions='3',
> which prevents an automated scheduled installation.
>
> Or, if the client is still pending a reboot from a previous update
> installation, ALL subsequent installations will be scheduled as
> "administrator-required" activities, rather than scheduled at the regular
> installation time. In this case the "administrator-required" activity is to
> reboot the system, so that subsequent update installations can be
> performed/scheduled.
>
> I've also seen installations missed, with great wonderment by admins,
> because the PCs were powered off. Contrary to great fantasy-based desires,
> the client system must be powered on in order to install updates at the
> scheduled time. I presume this is not the case with your situation, but
> since you are instructing your users to "reboot... before leaving", you
> should ensure that they're not actually shutting the systems down, or that
> something is interfering with the 'reboot' causing to hang in a
> 'shutting-down' status.
>
> Personally, I would teach the users how to =LOGOFF= the system, which will
> accomplish the same desired results AND ensure that the system remains
> powered on for necessary maintenance activities.
>
>
> > Not sure what else to look for.
> > I've recently setup a new client to test the synchronization and will
> > update with results.
>
> All details surrounding the entire state of the client, and activites
> occuring during the scheduled installation event are captured in the
> %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log. I would suggest a thorough review of the
> WindowsUpdate.log from a selected client displaying this behavior. Post the
> most recent detect and installation event entries if you'd like assistance
> interpreting the log entries.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
> Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
> Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
>
> MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
> My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
> http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
> My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
>
>
Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
VJ 11/5/2008 10:37:01 PM
Also, here is what the client sees for the policy. Also, Pre-Install Notify
does not mean that the end user will be notified before Install I hope.



2008-11-05 07:40:39:430 1400 2dc AU ########### AU: Initializing Automatic
Updates ###########
2008-11-05 07:40:39:430 1400 2dc AU AU setting next detection timeout to
2008-11-05 15:40:39
2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # WSUS server: http://pokemon-sea2:8530
2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # Detection frequency: 4
2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # Target group: workstations
2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # Approval type: Pre-install notify
(Policy)
2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # Auto-install minor updates: No
(Policy)
2008-11-05 07:40:39:461 1400 2dc AU AU finished delayed initialization
Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <lawrence[ at ]news.postalias> 11/6/2008 2:15:14 AM
"VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:342E40E1-EAAE-461A-B7BC-D6A891F4AC38[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Thank You Lawrence and belated apologies for the SPAM. I'll observe the
> machine and check tomorrow to see that the downloaded updates are
> installed.
> In the meantime I am seeing these errors on several machine logs:
>
> WARNING: AU found no suitable session to launch client in

These are normal messages and simply mean that an administrator-level login
was not active on the system's console at the logged time. It's the attempt
to raise a notification in the Notification Bar that can only succeed when
an authorized user is logged on.


--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin

Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <lawrence[ at ]news.postalias> 11/6/2008 2:21:10 AM
"VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0D2A9AF6-9DAC-4A3F-B64F-12139BB2C629[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Also, here is what the client sees for the policy. Also, Pre-Install
> Notify
> does not mean that the end user will be notified before Install I hope.

> 2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # Approval type: Pre-install notify
> (Policy)

"Pre-install notify (Policy)" means this machine has AUOptions=3 set by
policy
and the only way updates will be installed is if an admin user initiates the
installation from the UI.

If the policy had AUOptions=4, the log entry would be:
Approval type: Scheduled (Policy)

Either you have conflicting policies being applied,
or the policy you intend to be applied to this system -- isn't.

And, still, you have the AUOptions=3 coming from somewhere,
because that's not the installation default.

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

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Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
VJ 11/6/2008 4:19:01 PM
Here is the Auto -Update Policy for the workstations ou.

Policy Setting
Allow Automatic Updates immediate installation Disabled
Automatic Updates detection frequency Enabled
Check for updates at the following
interval (hours): 4

Policy Setting
Configure Automatic Updates Enabled
Configure automatic updating: 4 - Auto download and schedule the install
The following settings are only required
and applicable if 4 is selected.
Scheduled install day: 0 - Every day
Scheduled install time: 04:00

Policy Setting
Delay Restart for scheduled installations Disabled
Do not adjust default option to 'Install Updates and Shut Down' in Shut Down
Windows dialog box Enabled
Do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in Shut Down Windows
dialog box Enabled
Enable client-side targeting Enabled
Target group name for this computer workstations

Policy Setting
No auto-restart for scheduled Automatic Updates installations Disabled
Specify intranet Microsoft update service location Enabled
Set the intranet update service for detecting updates: http://zzzz:8530
Set the intranet statistics server: http://zzzz:8530
(example: http://IntranetUpd01)



But, I also found a Windows Update Specified in the Default Domain Policy.

Windows Components/Windows Update
Policy Setting
Configure Automatic Updates Enabled
Configure automatic updating: 3 - Auto download and notify for install
The following settings are only required
and applicable if 4 is selected.
Scheduled install day: 0 - Every day
Scheduled install time: 03:00

Policy Setting
Do not adjust default option to 'Install Updates and Shut Down' in Shut Down
Windows dialog box Enabled
Do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in Shut Down Windows
dialog box Enabled
Enable client-side targeting Enabled
Target group name for this computer workstations

Policy Setting
No auto-restart for scheduled Automatic Updates installations Enabled
Reschedule Automatic Updates scheduled installations Disabled
Specify intranet Microsoft update service location Enabled
Set the intranet update service for detecting updates: http://zzzz:8530
Set the intranet statistics server: http://zzzz:8530
(example: http://IntranetUpd01)

Is there a conflict here?

Thanks,
Vijay

"Lawrence Garvin (MVP)" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> "VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0D2A9AF6-9DAC-4A3F-B64F-12139BB2C629[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Also, here is what the client sees for the policy. Also, Pre-Install
> > Notify
> > does not mean that the end user will be notified before Install I hope.
>
> > 2008-11-05 07:40:39:446 1400 2dc AU # Approval type: Pre-install notify
> > (Policy)
>
> "Pre-install notify (Policy)" means this machine has AUOptions=3 set by
> policy
> and the only way updates will be installed is if an admin user initiates the
> installation from the UI.
>
> If the policy had AUOptions=4, the log entry would be:
> Approval type: Scheduled (Policy)
>
> Either you have conflicting policies being applied,
> or the policy you intend to be applied to this system -- isn't.
>
> And, still, you have the AUOptions=3 coming from somewhere,
> because that's not the installation default.
>
> --
> Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
> Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
> Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)
>
> MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
> My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
> http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
> My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin
>
>
Re: WSUS Updates Download to Client but do not Install, despite Po
"Lawrence Garvin \(MVP\)" <lawrence[ at ]news.postalias> 11/6/2008 7:06:45 PM
"VJ" <VJ[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:706F9CB3-92F4-42CD-B5DC-59028D634AB0[ at ]microsoft.com...

[Quoted Text]
> But, I also found a Windows Update Specified in the Default Domain Policy.

Ouch!

> Configure automatic updating: 3 - Auto download and notify for install

There is the cause of your conflict! :-)

It is strongly discouraged to modify the "Default Domain Policy" for any
reason.


However, the =OU= policy should override the policy applied at the domain
level; however, this appears to not be happening, so you've actually got one
problem masking another.

To begin resolution:

[1] The Default Domain Policy should not be modified. (I would recommend
setting all of these values back to "Not Configured".)

[2] For some reason the =OU= policy is *not* being applied correctly, as
it's evident that the policy values obtained by the client came from the
Default Domain Policy (and were not overridden by a properly applied OU
Policy).

After updating the Default Domain Policy, and ensuring the DDP has been
properly applied (run /gpupdate /force), then you'll need to diagnose why
the OU policy is not being applied.

--
Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
My Websites: http://www.onsitechsolutions.com;
http://wsusinfo.onsitechsolutions.com
My MVP Profile: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Lawrence.Garvin

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