I miss outlook Express. "DeeCeeVee" <myfakeaddress[ at ]somewhereintime.com> 12/12/2008 3:18:29 PM Never had this problem before. my P1620 has Vista Business. I have a few hotmail accounts that-in the past I was able to check with Outlook Express. So like I have done in the past, but Succeeded, I "tried" to install, windows live Mail.so I didn't have to go to the web to check. It downloaded fine, but would not install. The error Doesn't tell you why- it just gives you a link to "check this" sort of help. I didn't find any help there _ tried Over and over. Decided," Install SP-I "maybe that will help! It didn't. I just made a bigger mess of things. Has anyone had this problem? The live Mail problem. Or do I need to contract Fujitsu? Couldn't Install Live messenger either. -- wriTing, not typing, on my tablet.... please forgive or ignore the 'wrytos.' ~diane whatever

Re: I miss outlook Express. "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> 12/12/2008 5:44:21 PM The biggest problem with OE was that it "was there" and managed to become a standard despite the terrible software it is exposed to be when anyone finally uses a decent email and newsreader client. (Personally, I think live mail is working to take over OE's job at just being bad ;-) You will probably get a lot of input on alternatives, but I have been using the netscape email/newsreader solutions for over a decade and they are flat great and powerful for both email and newsgroups. The best way to get and install them at the moment is to download and install the "full" version of SeaMonkey <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> This will include the Mozilla browser, email client, newsreader client and web page creator editor. I have some tips on exploiting the newsreader which makes newsgroups simple and easy at http://bevhoward.com/moz.htm#News Hope this helps, Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices]

Re: I miss outlook Express. "Diane Whatever" <I.am[ at ]home.com> 12/12/2008 10:01:44 PM "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message news:%23vSDaEIXJHA.1528[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > The biggest problem with OE was that it "was there" and managed to become > a standard despite the terrible software it is exposed to be when anyone > finally uses a decent email and newsreader client. (Personally, I think > live mail is working to take over OE's job at just being bad ;-) > > You will probably get a lot of input on alternatives, but I have been > using the netscape email/newsreader solutions for over a decade and they > are flat great and powerful for both email and newsgroups. > > The best way to get and install them at the moment is to download and > install the "full" version of SeaMonkey > <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> This will include the Mozilla > browser, email client, newsreader client and web page creator editor. > > I have some tips on exploiting the newsreader which makes newsgroups > simple and easy at http://bevhoward.com/moz.htm#News > > Hope this helps, > Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices] Are you saying I can read my hotmail with that program ? I mostly get spam at my hotmail accounts, but still have subscriptions - confirmations etc at my hotmail accounts and at least with Windows Live Mail I cant see those 4 email accounts in one program rather than log into hotmail 4 times. I actually like Windows Mail [not live mail] a lot - too bad I cant check hotmail accounts with it .. Just Microsoft being difficult [or something] Diane

Re: I miss outlook Express. "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> 12/13/2008 5:47:43 PM >> Are you saying I can read my hotmail with that program ? << I'm not a hotmail person, so can't answer that other than to say that if hotmail has a pop3 or imap pickup option, the answer would be yes. Beverly Howard [Microsoft MVP-Mobile Devices]

Re: I miss outlook Express. "Paul Smith" <Paul[ at ]nospam.windowsresource.net> 12/16/2008 9:26:09 AM "Diane Whatever" <I.am[ at ]home.com> wrote in message news:qpidna8jReXNQt_UnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d[ at ]giganews.com... [Quoted Text] > Are you saying I can read my hotmail with that program ? I mostly get > spam at my hotmail accounts, but still have subscriptions - confirmations > etc at my hotmail accounts and at least with Windows Live Mail I cant see > those 4 email accounts in one program rather than log into hotmail 4 > times. > > I actually like Windows Mail [not live mail] a lot - too bad I cant check > hotmail accounts with it .. Just Microsoft being difficult [or something] Only the Hotmail subscribers can check their e-mail on the non-Live client, by using POP3 at the moment. However, next year Microsoft will be re-introducing POP3 access for all Hotmail users again. -- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience. http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ http://www.windowsresource.net/ *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*

Re: I miss outlook Express. "diane whatever" <i.am[ at ]home.com> 12/22/2008 1:17:00 PM "Paul Smith" <Paul[ at ]nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message news:OYaLbB2XJHA.208[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > "Diane Whatever" <I.am[ at ]home.com> wrote in message > news:qpidna8jReXNQt_UnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d[ at ]giganews.com... > >> Are you saying I can read my hotmail with that program ? I mostly get >> spam at my hotmail accounts, but still have subscriptions - confirmations >> etc at my hotmail accounts and at least with Windows Live Mail I cant see >> those 4 email accounts in one program rather than log into hotmail 4 >> times. >> >> I actually like Windows Mail [not live mail] a lot - too bad I cant check >> hotmail accounts with it .. Just Microsoft being difficult [or something] > > Only the Hotmail subscribers can check their e-mail on the non-Live > client, by using POP3 at the moment. However, next year Microsoft will be > re-introducing POP3 access for all Hotmail users again. > > -- > Paul Smith, > Yeovil, UK. > Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience. > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ > http://www.windowsresource.net/ > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > > I was grandfathered in -- I can still check my hotmail with Outlook Express. But if I had OE on a new computer, I don't know if I could do it -- maybe just the computers that are already checking -- Actually, that would be this one, my desktop and my desktop at work. My others are Vista and I don't have OE. Something else .. does anyone know why I would not be able to install Windows Live email or messenger on a new vista laptop ?? Could I start the download, the install files download, then I get an error "can't install." This has happened with my Fujitsu tablet and an office friend just got a Toshiba laptop for Xmas, it won't install on hers either. Would it have anything to do with Turning off the Firewall or ?? Diane