Standard DNS failed integrated with ad "NewsReader" <carl[ at ]anywhere.com> 11/1/2008 2:20:23 AM I have a site where they have 1 primary and 2 secondary DNS servers. They show signs of once being AD Integrated with the subdomains _msdcs _sites _tcp _udp DomainDnsZones ForestDnsZones I am told they tried over 1 year ago to convert to AD integrated and their entire DNS 'went down' so they went back to standard. Im researching why it would have gone down in the conversion. They currently have 3 DCs 1 primary DNS the other 2 secondary. I would like to get this converted to ADI. Is there any caution about doing this with the older 'leftover' subdomains? Is there a good procedure for doing this? Thanks all Janke --

Re: Standard DNS failed integrated with ad "A, Deji" <deji[ at ]akomolafe.com> 11/1/2008 3:13:31 AM There shouldn't really be any reason for the entire DNS to "go down" from simply converting zones. I would encourage you to safe copies of the zone files, then do the conversion to ADI (on a weekend or when no-one is in the office so that you could have sufficient time to troubleshoot/back out without presure). Then if the DNS goes down after the switch, please post back with the exact symptom and errors. Deji "NewsReader" <carl[ at ]anywhere.com> wrote in message news:Ox0qnh8OJHA.3980[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] >I have a site where they have 1 primary and 2 secondary DNS servers. They >show signs of once being AD Integrated with the subdomains > _msdcs > _sites > _tcp > _udp > DomainDnsZones > ForestDnsZones > > I am told they tried over 1 year ago to convert to AD integrated and their > entire DNS 'went down' so they went back to standard. Im researching > why it would have gone down in the conversion. They currently have 3 DCs > 1 primary DNS the other 2 secondary. I would like to get this converted > to ADI. Is there any caution about doing this with the older 'leftover' > subdomains? Is there a good procedure for doing this? > > Thanks all > > Janke > -- >

Re: Standard DNS failed integrated with ad Meinolf Weber <meiweb(nospam)[ at ]gmx.de> 11/1/2008 3:26:21 PM Hello newsreader, Save the zone files as a copy and convert on the primary DNS to AD integrated zones. On the secondaries delete the existing zones and wait for AD replication. If you have any erros after change please post them here. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm [Quoted Text] > I have a site where they have 1 primary and 2 secondary DNS servers. > They > show signs of once being AD Integrated with the subdomains > _msdcs > _sites > _tcp > _udp > DomainDnsZones > ForestDnsZones > I am told they tried over 1 year ago to convert to AD integrated and > their entire DNS 'went down' so they went back to standard. Im > researching why it would have gone down in the conversion. They > currently have 3 DCs 1 primary DNS the other 2 secondary. I would > like to get this converted to ADI. Is there any caution about doing > this with the older 'leftover' subdomains? Is there a good procedure > for doing this? > > Thanks all > > Janke >

Re: Standard DNS failed integrated with ad tenroc2o0o <tenroc2o0o.3i7o3f[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> 11/1/2008 6:40:05 PM I had this happen before. Apparently a server can have an AD integrated DNS zone as well as a standard sitting on top of it - really confusing. DNS updates weren't working correctly and my servers weren't syncing properly. I just *deleted* the zone (since it was standard anyway), restarted DNS, and the AD-Integrated Zone just reappeared in the list - like it had been there all along. Ironically it had the latest DNS info from the other servers. Furthermore, even if you screw up DNS, just create a zone for your domain, make it AD-integrated, and reboot. The DNS entries should recreate themselves when AD starts up. -- tenroc2o0o ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tenroc2o0o's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/tenroc2o0o.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/server-dns/1064350.htm http://forums.techarena.in

Re: Standard DNS failed integrated with ad "A, Deji" <deji[ at ]akomolafe.com> 11/2/2008 6:20:23 AM You really don't want to just delete zones and hope that AD recreates them automagically. What if you have static records in there? For objects that are not able to (or actively not allowed to) register themselves in DNS? What if the zone does allow dynamic registrations? You want to save the flat file (to a location off the server even) before you whack a zone. A "ooops. ok, let's roll it back" is better that "we a phucked, what now?" Just saying. Deji "tenroc2o0o" <tenroc2o0o.3i7o3f[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message news:tenroc2o0o.3i7o3f[ at ]DoNotSpam.com... [Quoted Text] > > I had this happen before. Apparently a server can have an AD integrated > DNS zone as well as a standard sitting on top of it - really confusing. > DNS updates weren't working correctly and my servers weren't syncing > properly. I just *deleted* the zone (since it was standard anyway), > restarted DNS, and the AD-Integrated Zone just reappeared in the list - > like it had been there all along. Ironically it had the latest DNS info > from the other servers. > > Furthermore, even if you screw up DNS, just create a zone for your > domain, make it AD-integrated, and reboot. The DNS entries should > recreate themselves when AD starts up. > > > -- > tenroc2o0o > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tenroc2o0o's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/tenroc2o0o.htm > View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/server-dns/1064350.htm > > http://forums.techarena.in >

Re: Standard DNS failed integrated with ad tenroc2o0o <tenroc2o0o.3i97nb[ at ]DoNotSpam.com> 11/2/2008 2:26:20 PM well unless he's managing FedEx's network people usually dont have to many static dns entries aside from an occasional printer. Obviously, make a backup. My point was.. worst case scenario if you can't make it work, A.D. will recreate it's DNS entries. -- tenroc2o0o ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tenroc2o0o's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/tenroc2o0o.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/server-dns/1064350.htm http://forums.techarena.in

Re: Standard DNS failed integrated with ad "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <firstnamelastname[ at ]hotmail.com> 11/3/2008 5:15:41 AM In news:Ox0qnh8OJHA.3980[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, NewsReader <carl[ at ]anywhere.com> requesting assistance, typed the following: [Quoted Text] > I have a site where they have 1 primary and 2 secondary DNS servers. They > show signs of once being AD Integrated with the subdomains > _msdcs > _sites > _tcp > _udp > DomainDnsZones > ForestDnsZones > > I am told they tried over 1 year ago to convert to AD integrated and > their entire DNS 'went down' so they went back to standard. Im > researching why it would have gone down in the conversion. They > currently have 3 DCs 1 primary DNS the other 2 secondary. I would > like to get this converted to ADI. Is there any caution about doing > this with the older 'leftover' subdomains? Is there a good procedure > for doing this? > Thanks all > > Janke I can't see DNS "going down." If you mean the zone disappeared, I'mwilling to bet in a scenario with mixed 2000 & 2003 DCs with AD integrated zones and not setting the zone replication scope correctly in the 2003 DNS console to accomodate 2000's method of storing the zones in the DomainNC when someone may selected the 'All DNS in the Domain,' then I can see that causing a HUGE issue. It will create a duplicate zone and will mess things up. To clean it up, or even matter of fact to check for dupe zones, you can use ADSI Edit to find and delete the dupes. Look at the zone names in the DomainDnsZones partition and the DomainNC partition under Microsoft Services, DNS. The dupes show up with a prefix of "CNF... <long GUID #>" or "PRE..." -- Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCT Microsoft Certified Trainer For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.