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WSUS Across VPN Link
"pvliii via WinServerKB.com" <u46670[ at ]uwe> 10/13/2008 3:52:06 PM
We have a second location which is connected via VPN link on a broadband
connection. The computers at that location are configured via the same group
policy as the computers at HQ where the WSUS is located. However, the
computers at the remote location do not show up in the WSUS at HQ.

The ip scheme at HQ is 192.168.1.x and the remote is 192.168.2.x. Could that
be a problem?

We have an extra server in storage. Would it be adventagious to set it up as
a WSUS and place it at the remote location and configure it as a downstream
WSUS?

Thanks in advance,

PJ

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Re: WSUS Across VPN Link
"Lawrence Garvin" <lawrence[ at ]nospam> 10/13/2008 4:22:17 PM
"pvliii via WinServerKB.com" <u46670[ at ]uwe> wrote in message
news:8b9c5d9f9750a[ at ]uwe...
[Quoted Text]
> We have a second location which is connected via VPN link on a broadband
> connection. The computers at that location are configured via the same
> group
> policy as the computers at HQ where the WSUS is located. However, the
> computers at the remote location do not show up in the WSUS at HQ.
>
> The ip scheme at HQ is 192.168.1.x and the remote is 192.168.2.x. Could
> that
> be a problem?

It could. Do those clients know how to get to the 192.168.1.x network?

Is there firewall on the 192.168.1.x link that's blocking traffic from the
remote network on the WSUS port(s)?

What says the Client Diagnostic Tool when run on a remote client?

or what says the WindowsUpdate.log from a client attempting to make a
connection?

All of which assumes that your Group Policy has actually been applied to the
remote systems.


> We have an extra server in storage. Would it be adventagious to set it up
> as
> a WSUS and place it at the remote location and configure it as a
> downstream
> WSUS?

Probably not, if that's a full-width broadband VPN link between the sites.

Generally if there's at least 5kb/sec per client of available bandwidth, the
remote clients will do just fine working from a central server.


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Lawrence Garvin, M.S., MCITP(x2), MCTS(x5), MCP(x7), MCBMSP
Principal/CTO, Onsite Technology Solutions, Houston, Texas
Microsoft MVP - Software Distribution (2005-2009)

MS WSUS Website: http://www.microsoft.com/wsus
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Re: WSUS Across VPN Link
[MVP] 10/13/2008 4:27:27 PM
pvliii via WinServerKB.com schrieb:

[Quoted Text]
> We have a second location which is connected via VPN link on a broadband
> connection. The computers at that location are configured via the same group
> policy as the computers at HQ where the WSUS is located. However, the
> computers at the remote location do not show up in the WSUS at HQ.

Have a look in %windir%\Windowsupdate.log at a client, who not is
showed in WSUS.

Winfried
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Re: WSUS Across VPN Link
"pvliii via WinServerKB.com" <u46670[ at ]uwe> 10/13/2008 5:15:56 PM
Lawrence Garvin wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>> We have a second location which is connected via VPN link on a broadband
>> connection. The computers at that location are configured via the same
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> that
>> be a problem?
>
>It could. Do those clients know how to get to the 192.168.1.x network?
>
>Is there firewall on the 192.168.1.x link that's blocking traffic from the
>remote network on the WSUS port(s)?
>
>What says the Client Diagnostic Tool when run on a remote client?
>
>or what says the WindowsUpdate.log from a client attempting to make a
>connection?
>
>All of which assumes that your Group Policy has actually been applied to the
>remote systems.
>
>> We have an extra server in storage. Would it be adventagious to set it up
>> as
>> a WSUS and place it at the remote location and configure it as a
>> downstream
>> WSUS?
>
>Probably not, if that's a full-width broadband VPN link between the sites.
>
>Generally if there's at least 5kb/sec per client of available bandwidth, the
>remote clients will do just fine working from a central server.
>

Thank you all for the quick reply.

Here's the output from the Client Diagnostic Tool:

=====
WSUS Client Diagnostics Tool

Checking Machine State
Checking for admin rights to run tool . . . . . . . . . PASS
Automatic Updates Service is running. . . . . . . . . . PASS
Background Intelligent Transfer Service is running. . . PASS
Wuaueng.dll version 7.2.6001.784. . . . . . . . . . . . PASS
This version is WSUS 2.0

Checking AU Settings
AU Option is 4: Scheduled Install . . . . . . . . . . . PASS
Option is from Control Panel

Checking Proxy Configuration
Checking for winhttp local machine Proxy settings . . . PASS
Winhttp local machine access type
<Direct Connection>
Winhttp local machine Proxy. . . . . . . . . . PASS
Winhttp local machine ProxyBypass. . . . . . . PASS
Checking User IE Proxy settings . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS
User IE Proxy. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS
User IE ProxyByPass. . . . . . . . . . . . . . PASS
User IE AutoConfig URL Proxy . . . . . . . . . PASS
User IE AutoDetect
AutoDetect not in use

Checking Connection to WSUS/SUS Server
AU does not have Policy Set
AU does not have Policy Set
UseWuServer is disabled . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FAIL
=====

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Re: WSUS Across VPN Link
DaveMills <DaveMills[ at ]newsgroup.nospam> 10/13/2008 7:04:24 PM
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:15:56 GMT, "pvliii via WinServerKB.com" <u46670[ at ]uwe>
wrote:

Snip....

Well it looks like you GPO is not being applied or does not have the correct
WSUS settings. These clients are not configured to use WSUS. You need to double
check the GPO settings and use GPresult to see if they are seeing the policy.

[Quoted Text]
>
>Checking Connection to WSUS/SUS Server
>AU does not have Policy Set
>AU does not have Policy Set
> UseWuServer is disabled . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FAIL
>=====
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Dave Mills
There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary and those that don't.
Re: WSUS Across VPN Link
"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon[ at ]aol.com> 10/19/2008 4:05:09 PM
pvliii via WinServerKB.com wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> We have a second location which is connected via VPN link on a broadband
> connection. The computers at that location are configured via the same group
> policy as the computers at HQ where the WSUS is located. However, the
> computers at the remote location do not show up in the WSUS at HQ.
>
> The ip scheme at HQ is 192.168.1.x and the remote is 192.168.2.x. Could that
> be a problem?
>
> We have an extra server in storage. Would it be adventagious to set it up as
> a WSUS and place it at the remote location and configure it as a downstream
> WSUS?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> PJ
>

This is similar to the situation I found myself in. We have a main site
(192.168.1.x) that had all the servers in the domain, including a WSUS
3 server. We have a remote site (192.168.100.x) that is connected via a
T1 (1/2 is used for VOIP and 1/2 for data).

I was concerned about the amount of data being sent over the T1 when the
remote clients did their updates.

I took an old server, installed 2003 and WSUS 3, making a "downstream"
server to the primary server. The WSUS server on the main site syncs
with MS every morning at 10PM. The remote server syncs with the main
WSUS server every day at 3AM.

The main server notifies me when updates get loaded. I review them and
begin the testing/evaluation. I then approve the ones I want and discard
the ones I don't want. The server then begins downloading the updates.
The next morning at 3AM, the remote server syncs with the main server.

It's worked exactly as I had hoped. I control when each server gets
updates and can manage them all with the single console.

Sounds like it's exactly what you need........ If you need help, contact
me at

arnoldh at hospiceinc dot org

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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
Re: WSUS Across VPN Link
"pvliii via WinServerKB.com" <u46670[ at ]uwe> 10/22/2008 2:03:39 PM
Thanks, Hank. I'm going to try this out once I clear out this list of to do's.
I'll post how it works out.

PJ

Hank Arnold (MVP) wrote:
[Quoted Text]
>> We have a second location which is connected via VPN link on a broadband
>> connection. The computers at that location are configured via the same group
>[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>> PJ
>
>This is similar to the situation I found myself in. We have a main site
> (192.168.1.x) that had all the servers in the domain, including a WSUS
>3 server. We have a remote site (192.168.100.x) that is connected via a
>T1 (1/2 is used for VOIP and 1/2 for data).
>
>I was concerned about the amount of data being sent over the T1 when the
>remote clients did their updates.
>
>I took an old server, installed 2003 and WSUS 3, making a "downstream"
>server to the primary server. The WSUS server on the main site syncs
>with MS every morning at 10PM. The remote server syncs with the main
>WSUS server every day at 3AM.
>
>The main server notifies me when updates get loaded. I review them and
>begin the testing/evaluation. I then approve the ones I want and discard
>the ones I don't want. The server then begins downloading the updates.
>The next morning at 3AM, the remote server syncs with the main server.
>
>It's worked exactly as I had hoped. I control when each server gets
>updates and can manage them all with the single console.
>
>Sounds like it's exactly what you need........ If you need help, contact
>me at
>
>arnoldh at hospiceinc dot org
>

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