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Hey guys,
Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
Here's my setup.
Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
I honestly don't think I should be having any problems with lag at the
highest setting with this set up.
It must be the Vista Ultimate 64bit that's causing the lag some how...
I did try out an older driver for the video card and it's still the
same...
I have Aero turned off and optimized Vista also.
Anyone have any ideas?
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digiegg;920003 Wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
> Here's my setup.
>
> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>
> I honestly don't think I should be having any problems with lag at the
> highest setting with this set up.
> It must be the Vista Ultimate 64bit that's causing the lag some how...
> I did try out an older driver for the video card and it's still the
> same...
> I have Aero turned off and optimized Vista also.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highest
settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if you
want to play at max.
Norm
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I have an 880GT (not the GTS) but I am not on a mac and I was getting uneven
framerates, ~20-40 in normal areas with the highest setting and 1600x1200
24bit8x. However in Dalaran and Shatt I got about 5fps - completely
unplayable. I had to move down to "Medium" settings to get things to even
out (40-70fps) and Dalaran is still terrible (about 15fps) and I get out of
there as fast as I can. The "Shadows" setting seems to be a real hog, try
setting it off, things are not as nice lookingbut I would rather have less
shadows and more draw-distance!
Mark
"digiegg" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
> Hey guys,
> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
> Here's my setup.
>
> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>
> I honestly don't think I should be having any problems with lag at the
> highest setting with this set up.
> It must be the Vista Ultimate 64bit that's causing the lag some how...
> I did try out an older driver for the video card and it's still the
> same...
> I have Aero turned off and optimized Vista also.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
>
> --
> digiegg
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What would be a DX 10 setting?
what should i turn off in wow to get it working as DX9?
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digiegg
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digiegg;920406 Wrote:
> What would be a DX 10 setting?
> what should i turn off in wow to get it working as DX9?
You need to switch of some of the eye candy, as suggested by Mark.
You could also try a beta Driver. I have an 8800Gt (overclocked) and
it runs fine with settings maxed out.
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NormCameron
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have you got Anti-aliasing running as well? if your running the game at
high resolutions, theres no real need for anti-aliasing to be enabled.
also texture filtering on high settings can slow down the game as well,
i suggest you turn these settings to how i have them in the NV control
panel. See attached Image
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|Filename: AA TF.JPG |
|Download: http://www.vistax64.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8912 |
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Probed by admins!
Click on the Scales if i've Helped you :D
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NormCameron;920443 Wrote:
> > digiegg;920406 Wrote:
> > What would be a DX 10 setting?
> > what should i turn off in wow to get it working as DX9?> >
>
>
> You need to switch of some of the eye candy, as suggested by Mark.
> You could also try a beta Driver. I have an 8800Gt (overclocked) and
> it runs fine with settings maxed out.
what are these eyecandies?
also did you see a big difference comparing to new driver vs beta?
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The last big patch upped the graphics in WoW quite a bit. Scale back
shadowing and view distance may help (shadows are actually quite heavy and
do impact performance a lot, so scale them down a bit). Northrend is even
heavier than the rest of WoW.
The DirectX10, 9 stuff is completely unrelated.
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Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/
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"digiegg" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
> Hey guys,
> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
> Here's my setup.
>
> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>
> I honestly don't think I should be having any problems with lag at the
> highest setting with this set up.
> It must be the Vista Ultimate 64bit that's causing the lag some how...
> I did try out an older driver for the video card and it's still the
> same...
> I have Aero turned off and optimized Vista also.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
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[Quoted Text] > digiegg;920003 Wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
>> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran flawlessly.
>> Here's my setup.
>>
>> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
>> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
>> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
>> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas?
NormCameron <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0[ at ]nntp-gateway.com:
> It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highest
> settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if you
> want to play at max.
Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to disable
in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.
Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did you try
disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)?
When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get really low
framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually lag
refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering at
times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower while it's
buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to use more
RAM than it ever has before.
My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rpm
generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time to pre-
load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run around for
a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to get
everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out.
Loading time seems to take much longer now as well.
Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have a
decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this.
Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (If you're
on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa)
GL,
-Joe/Andy
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You can try some basic things. From the login page, select the "options"
button then pick Video.
Check your resolution and multisampling - the higher those are the harder
the video card has to work, the multisampling especially can be 1X or 2X if
you are worried about speed, then click on the "effects" entry to get the
effects screen. In the top is a "Video Quality" slider, try sliding it a
notch towards low, it will automatically set all the other options.
Another possibility is your video-card driver may be set to override any
in-game settings, bring up your Nvidia control panel and under "3D
Settings", make sure it is set to "Let the 3D application decide"
When you are in the game, you can hit Control-R (hold down the control key
and hit R) and it will show the framerate.
Hope that helps!
Mark
"digiegg" <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text] >
> NormCameron;920443 Wrote:
>> > digiegg;920406 Wrote:
>> > What would be a DX 10 setting?
>> > what should i turn off in wow to get it working as DX9?> >
>>
>>
>> You need to switch of some of the eye candy, as suggested by Mark.
>> You could also try a beta Driver. I have an 8800Gt (overclocked) and
>> it runs fine with settings maxed out.
>
> what are these eyecandies?
> also did you see a big difference comparing to new driver vs beta?
>
>
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> digiegg
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Joe;923433 Wrote:
> > digiegg;920003 Wrote:> > > > > > > >
> > > >> Hey guys,
> > > >> Kind of upset here at the performance of WoW.
> > > >> I have a pretty nice set up. I had XP64 before and WoW ran
> > > flawlessly.
> > > >> Here's my setup.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mac Pro 3.2ghz 8 Core.
> > > >> 8800GTS (Latest nvidia driver installed) 180.48
> > > >> WD 300GB VelociRaptor HD.
> > > >> Vista Ultimate 64bit. SP1
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > >
>
> NormCameron <guest[ at ]xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in
> news:f4cd09602e81d4b5aaeeeba80a013eb0[ at ]xxxxxx-gateway.com:
> > > >
> > > It is the eye candy in DX10 that is slowing you down on highest
> > > settings. XP has only DX9. Disable the DX10 settings in WOW if you
> > > want to play at max. > >
>
> *Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to
> disable*
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c.*
>
> Don't know what to tell you Digiegg. Mac pro with 8 cores? Did you
> try
> disabling CPU affinity (Run the game in single core mode)?
>
> When you say the game is lagging, do you mean that you are get really
> low
> framerates, or is wow reporting really high ping times? Usually lag
> refers to network latency, but if you mean your game is stuttering at
> times. I've noticed that WoW with WotLK seems to run slower while
> it's
> buffering the textures as you enter new areas. Also WoW seems to use
> more
> RAM than it ever has before.
>
> My system runs WoW off a RAID0 with 2 320 WD drives (normal 7200rpm
> generic drives), and since WotLK came out it takes a long time to
> pre-
> load all the textures when I zone into a new area. Once I run around
> for
> a bit and get all my attacks going the system finally seems to get
> everything into RAM and it runs fine from there out.
>
> Loading time seems to take much longer now as well.
>
> Dunno what to say, check the WoW website. I seem to recal they have a
> decent tech support area for troubleshooting stuff like this.
>
> Since you're on a Mac Pro, maybe try running the other Client? (If
> you're
> on Mac WoW, try Win Wow, or visa versa)
>
> GL,
> -Joe/Andy
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> Joe
*"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to
disable*
*in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."*
Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it.
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Enlighten me please; I may have some ignorance that I need
banished.
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(http://www.exposedvisions.com)
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sygnus21 <guest[ at ]unknown-email.com> wrote in
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[Quoted Text] > *"Since WoW doesn't support Dx10, there is thus no Dx10 option to
> disable*
> *in WoW. WoW still runs using Dx9.0c."*
>
> Thank you for clearing that up! +1 You beat me to it.
I used to work tech support when DirectX 1-3 was popular (EA, best job
ever back in those days). Trying to explain what DirectX was to people
was hard enough. About as hard as explaining that they could (or should)
not uninstall DirectX and it would not effect programs that did not use
DirectX. Then having to explain why they needed to update their video
card drivers, etc etc etc.
Good times...
Yes people, it's the game that determines what version of DirectX you are
using, not the computer. Upgrading to Vista doesn't make WoW look better,
unless you upgrade your video card at the same time.
Upgrading to Vista does make Lord of the Rings Online look better (if you
turn on Dx10 mode, and you have a Dx10 compatible video card). There's a
handful of other Dx10 games.
Is Dx10 worth it? I say, depends on how into graphics you are. My coder
friends say that coding in Dx10 is SOOOO much easier than coding in Dx9,
so they say, please for the love of all that is holy, get Vista. haha.
Some say that 10 doesn't look much better in some games like Bioshock, so
it's possible that some devs are flubbing dx9 to make dx10 look better.
I've also heard that if you put extra work into your dx9 code you can
make it look as good as dx10, but it just takes more time. Not sure which
to believe. ah, well.
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Joe
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