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NT migration
egl 11/3/2008 8:18:01 AM
Hello,

I had a NT domain and I've tried to migrate it to 2003 AD. The NT domain
was called "domain.com". I took out the BDC from the network, promote it to
PDC and upgrade it to 2003. When I started "dcpromo" I was asked about the
domain name and had to choose smth different from "domain.com" so I chose
"domain.com.local". My question is regarding the MX entry: how can I add a
MX entry for "mail.domain.com"? I want the DNS server to resolve
"mail.domain.com" to an internal address.

--

Paul
RE: NT migration
James Yeomans BSc, MCSE 11/3/2008 2:49:01 PM
Hmm I am not sure you have gone about this in the right way. Creating a
domain with a suffix of .com.local would never be advised, unless you had a
root domain called com.local but i probably wouldn't implement such a
confusing name strategy. You will have to try creating a zone called
domain.com on your new dns server and add the mail record there.
James.
--
James Yeomans, BSc, MCSE
Ask me directly at: http://www.justaskjames.co.uk


"egl" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hello,
>
> I had a NT domain and I've tried to migrate it to 2003 AD. The NT domain
> was called "domain.com". I took out the BDC from the network, promote it to
> PDC and upgrade it to 2003. When I started "dcpromo" I was asked about the
> domain name and had to choose smth different from "domain.com" so I chose
> "domain.com.local". My question is regarding the MX entry: how can I add a
> MX entry for "mail.domain.com"? I want the DNS server to resolve
> "mail.domain.com" to an internal address.
>
> --
>
> Paul
Re: NT migration
"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin[ at ]nospam.WFTX.US> 11/3/2008 3:25:59 PM
Read inline please.

In news:C775852F-B19B-4B0F-81C8-364683463306[ at ]microsoft.com,
egl <egl[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> Hello,
>
> I had a NT domain and I've tried to migrate it to 2003 AD. The NT
> domain was called "domain.com". I took out the BDC from the network,
> promote it to PDC and upgrade it to 2003. When I started "dcpromo" I
> was asked about the domain name and had to choose smth different from
> "domain.com" so I chose "domain.com.local". My question is regarding
> the MX entry: how can I add a MX entry for "mail.domain.com"? I want
> the DNS server to resolve "mail.domain.com" to an internal address.

Create one new Forward lookup zone, name it mail.domain.com, in that zone
create one new A record, leaving the name field blank, and give it the
internal IP address.

This will allow you to resolve only that name in domain.com to the internal
address, while the rest are sent to the forwarder or resolve recursively.


--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This Helps

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RE: NT migration
egl 11/3/2008 3:28:01 PM

Thanks for the reply.

The domain "domain.com" is not visible in the internet so I dont see why I
cannot make it part of the "domain.com.local".

Anyway, what is the right way to migrate the NT domain (i still have the
original PDC online so I can do it again) ?
I read some oficial Microsoft documents and they said that one way to
migrate NT is to take out the BDC, make it PDC, put the win 2k3 CD and
upgrade. After that start dcpromo and here is the nasty part: when the wizard
asks "Type the full DNS name for the new domain" if I enter "domain.com" the
wizard doesn't accept that (the error says it already exists) so I chose
domain.com.local.

If I create a new zone in the DNS "domain.com" I will have errors in the
logs like this: The DNS server was unable to complete directory service
enumeration of zone "domain.com".


"James Yeomans BSc, MCSE" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Hmm I am not sure you have gone about this in the right way. Creating a
> domain with a suffix of .com.local would never be advised, unless you had a
> root domain called com.local but i probably wouldn't implement such a
> confusing name strategy. You will have to try creating a zone called
> domain.com on your new dns server and add the mail record there.
> James.
> --
> James Yeomans, BSc, MCSE
> Ask me directly at: http://www.justaskjames.co.uk
>
>
> "egl" wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I had a NT domain and I've tried to migrate it to 2003 AD. The NT domain
> > was called "domain.com". I took out the BDC from the network, promote it to
> > PDC and upgrade it to 2003. When I started "dcpromo" I was asked about the
> > domain name and had to choose smth different from "domain.com" so I chose
> > "domain.com.local". My question is regarding the MX entry: how can I add a
> > MX entry for "mail.domain.com"? I want the DNS server to resolve
> > "mail.domain.com" to an internal address.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Paul
RE: NT migration
James Yeomans BSc, MCSE 11/3/2008 3:35:00 PM
Don't call the new domain "domain.com.local" (although it may work its messy
because you have 2 suffixes on it and it is confusing) call it domain.local
to isolate it in a seperate namespace. Then the migration path really depends
on how many users and computers you have got to migrate?? If lots, then you
need to create a trust and transfer them (with a considerable amount of
planning and testing) if only a few then i would reccomend migrating objects
manually - joining pc's to new domain and cresting new user accounts. Then
manually copying mailboxes and personal files etc.
How big is your network?
James.
--
James Yeomans, BSc, MCSE
Ask me directly at: http://www.justaskjames.co.uk


"egl" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> The domain "domain.com" is not visible in the internet so I dont see why I
> cannot make it part of the "domain.com.local".
>
> Anyway, what is the right way to migrate the NT domain (i still have the
> original PDC online so I can do it again) ?
> I read some oficial Microsoft documents and they said that one way to
> migrate NT is to take out the BDC, make it PDC, put the win 2k3 CD and
> upgrade. After that start dcpromo and here is the nasty part: when the wizard
> asks "Type the full DNS name for the new domain" if I enter "domain.com" the
> wizard doesn't accept that (the error says it already exists) so I chose
> domain.com.local.
>
> If I create a new zone in the DNS "domain.com" I will have errors in the
> logs like this: The DNS server was unable to complete directory service
> enumeration of zone "domain.com".
>
>
> "James Yeomans BSc, MCSE" wrote:
>
> > Hmm I am not sure you have gone about this in the right way. Creating a
> > domain with a suffix of .com.local would never be advised, unless you had a
> > root domain called com.local but i probably wouldn't implement such a
> > confusing name strategy. You will have to try creating a zone called
> > domain.com on your new dns server and add the mail record there.
> > James.
> > --
> > James Yeomans, BSc, MCSE
> > Ask me directly at: http://www.justaskjames.co.uk
> >
> >
> > "egl" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I had a NT domain and I've tried to migrate it to 2003 AD. The NT domain
> > > was called "domain.com". I took out the BDC from the network, promote it to
> > > PDC and upgrade it to 2003. When I started "dcpromo" I was asked about the
> > > domain name and had to choose smth different from "domain.com" so I chose
> > > "domain.com.local". My question is regarding the MX entry: how can I add a
> > > MX entry for "mail.domain.com"? I want the DNS server to resolve
> > > "mail.domain.com" to an internal address.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Paul
RE: NT migration
egl 11/3/2008 4:03:01 PM

I have~250 computers in 12 sites. Only the computers in one site are part
of the NT domain. The thing is that I need to make this transition without
going to users computers (even if there are not many computers to go to). I
will consider the other migration option.
Thank you


"James Yeomans BSc, MCSE" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Don't call the new domain "domain.com.local" (although it may work its messy
> because you have 2 suffixes on it and it is confusing) call it domain.local
> to isolate it in a seperate namespace. Then the migration path really depends
> on how many users and computers you have got to migrate?? If lots, then you
> need to create a trust and transfer them (with a considerable amount of
> planning and testing) if only a few then i would reccomend migrating objects
> manually - joining pc's to new domain and cresting new user accounts. Then
> manually copying mailboxes and personal files etc.
> How big is your network?
> James.
> --
> James Yeomans, BSc, MCSE
> Ask me directly at: http://www.justaskjames.co.uk
>

Re: NT migration
egl 11/3/2008 4:05:03 PM

Well, finally it did work, thanks.

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Read inline please.
>
> In news:C775852F-B19B-4B0F-81C8-364683463306[ at ]microsoft.com,
> egl <egl[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I had a NT domain and I've tried to migrate it to 2003 AD. The NT
> > domain was called "domain.com". I took out the BDC from the network,
> > promote it to PDC and upgrade it to 2003. When I started "dcpromo" I
> > was asked about the domain name and had to choose smth different from
> > "domain.com" so I chose "domain.com.local". My question is regarding
> > the MX entry: how can I add a MX entry for "mail.domain.com"? I want
> > the DNS server to resolve "mail.domain.com" to an internal address.
>
> Create one new Forward lookup zone, name it mail.domain.com, in that zone
> create one new A record, leaving the name field blank, and give it the
> internal IP address.
>
> This will allow you to resolve only that name in domain.com to the internal
> address, while the rest are sent to the forwarder or resolve recursively.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This Helps
>
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