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Thread: Using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders

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Using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders
Bob 12/28/2008 12:27:00 AM
What is the general opinion on the use of 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders?
Is this recommended or not? I suppose it depends on how close you are to
these servers, but I was looking for a more general recommendation. The
reason I ask is that I have a few clients using these as forwarders and I
have seen numerous instances where certain domains, primarily Microsoft ones,
failed to resolve. Has anyone else seen issues with these DNS servers? Any
opinions on their usage?
Re: Using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)[ at ]gmx.de> 12/28/2008 7:46:10 PM
Hello Bob,

You should never use external DNS servers on the NIC configuration in your
domain machines. Use only domain internal DNS servers and configure the FORWARDERS
in the DNS server properties of the DNS management console.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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[Quoted Text]
> What is the general opinion on the use of 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as
> forwarders? Is this recommended or not? I suppose it depends on how
> close you are to these servers, but I was looking for a more general
> recommendation. The reason I ask is that I have a few clients using
> these as forwarders and I have seen numerous instances where certain
> domains, primarily Microsoft ones, failed to resolve. Has anyone else
> seen issues with these DNS servers? Any opinions on their usage?
>

Re: Using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders
"Michael D. Ober" <obermd.[ at ].alum.mit.edu.nospam.> 12/28/2008 9:10:17 PM
"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)[ at ]gmx.de> wrote in message
news:ff16fb66117598cb3744734c821e[ at ]msnews.microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Hello Bob,
>
> You should never use external DNS servers on the NIC configuration in your
> domain machines. Use only domain internal DNS servers and configure the
> FORWARDERS in the DNS server properties of the DNS management console.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> What is the general opinion on the use of 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as
>> forwarders? Is this recommended or not? I suppose it depends on how
>> close you are to these servers, but I was looking for a more general
>> recommendation. The reason I ask is that I have a few clients using
>> these as forwarders and I have seen numerous instances where certain
>> domains, primarily Microsoft ones, failed to resolve. Has anyone else
>> seen issues with these DNS servers? Any opinions on their usage?
>>
>

Meinolf,

Although you are correct that domain clients should use the domain dns
servers only for name resolution, you didn't answer the underlying question
of 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as reliable forwarders. These two servers are owned
by Verizon Trademark Services LLC, so the question is, do you trust Verizon
to provide accurate forwarding information?

Personally, I don't use forwarders. I'd rather let the root servers do
their jobs. The time saved by using forwarders is miniscule, especially
when you realize that the bulk of the time it takes to download a web-page
is the actual transfer of data from the web server.

Mike.


Re: Using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders
DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam[ at ]crazyhat.net> 12/28/2008 11:45:11 PM
In message <A6C94179-47ED-4224-9F35-236493ABAAB5[ at ]microsoft.com> Bob
<Bob[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> was claimed to have wrote:

[Quoted Text]
>What is the general opinion on the use of 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders?
>Is this recommended or not? I suppose it depends on how close you are to
>these servers, but I was looking for a more general recommendation. The
>reason I ask is that I have a few clients using these as forwarders and I
>have seen numerous instances where certain domains, primarily Microsoft ones,
>failed to resolve. Has anyone else seen issues with these DNS servers? Any
>opinions on their usage?

Why are you using forwarders at all, why not let your DNS servers do the
lookups themselves?
Re: Using 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as forwarders
"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <firstnamelastname[ at ]hotmail.com> 12/29/2008 4:49:55 AM
In news:15-dnTSZ1aujdsrUnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d[ at ]earthlink.com,
Michael D. Ober <obermd.[ at ].alum.mit.edu.nospam.> requesting assistance, typed
the following:
[Quoted Text]
> Meinolf,
>
> Although you are correct that domain clients should use the domain dns
> servers only for name resolution, you didn't answer the underlying
> question of 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 as reliable forwarders. These two
> servers are owned by Verizon Trademark Services LLC, so the question
> is, do you trust Verizon to provide accurate forwarding information?
>
> Personally, I don't use forwarders. I'd rather let the root servers
> do their jobs. The time saved by using forwarders is miniscule,
> especially when you realize that the bulk of the time it takes to
> download a web-page is the actual transfer of data from the web
> server.
> Mike.

I've used 4.2.2.2 for years as a second in the list forwarder. It works
fine. You can test it with nslookup using the -d2 option. I use another one
as the first, but I do not want to post it in the forum. You can use
4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.1, as well as 4.2.2.3.

--
Ace

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