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Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

wubing <wubing[ at ]hotmail.com> 5/28/2007 7:44:13 PM

Hi All,

I'd like to try Windows XP Professional 64 bit for my CAD program access
more then 4GB memory. Can I use 32 bit OEM product key to install and
activate 64 bit Windows XP professional?

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> 5/28/2007 10:55:57 PM

No

"wubing" <wubing[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> Hi All,
>
> I'd like to try Windows XP Professional 64 bit for my CAD program access
> more then 4GB memory. Can I use 32 bit OEM product key to install and
> activate 64 bit Windows XP professional?

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net> 5/28/2007 11:01:59 PM

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there is NO upgrade path from 32 bit to 64 bit.
not even for vista, much less xp.

mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net

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Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

Mardon <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> 5/28/2007 11:15:39 PM

"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> there is NO upgrade path from 32 bit to 64 bit.
> not even for vista, much less xp.

The retail box of Vista Ultimate that I purchased included both the 32-
bit and 64-bit versions of the OS. I installed Vista Ultimate x64 in
dual boot with my old XP Pro 32-bit OS. For anyone going x64, I
strongly recommend dual booting with the previous OS.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> 5/29/2007 12:02:53 AM

I do not agree. Dual booting XP and Vista will cause the loss of Vista's
restore points, shadow copies, backups, and anything else that relies on the
Vista VSS driver each time you boot into XP.

"Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns993ED32BC93A2mgb72mgbhotmailcom[ at ]207.46.248.16...
[Quoted Text]
> "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> there is NO upgrade path from 32 bit to 64 bit.
>> not even for vista, much less xp.
>
> The retail box of Vista Ultimate that I purchased included both the 32-
> bit and 64-bit versions of the OS. I installed Vista Ultimate x64 in
> dual boot with my old XP Pro 32-bit OS. For anyone going x64, I
> strongly recommend dual booting with the previous OS.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 5/29/2007 5:30:09 AM

Bad idea. You'll lose restore points in both OS's. And shadow copies. A
better solution is to install a 32-bit version of Windows in a Virtual
Machine on your 64-bit Windows if you still have legacy requirements for
32-bit Windows. That won't mess up your restore points, and will only be
there when you need it. And it's a lot less time consuming to spin up a
virtual machine that shutdown, reboot to the other OS, do what you have to
do, shutdown and reboot into your primary OS.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Quoted Text]
> "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> there is NO upgrade path from 32 bit to 64 bit.
>> not even for vista, much less xp.
>
> The retail box of Vista Ultimate that I purchased included both the 32-
> bit and 64-bit versions of the OS. I installed Vista Ultimate x64 in
> dual boot with my old XP Pro 32-bit OS. For anyone going x64, I
> strongly recommend dual booting with the previous OS.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> 5/29/2007 11:48:03 AM

Restore points, etc. are only lost on Vista. Those in XP are untouched. If
this is an upgrade version there is the problem with needing licenses for
both systems. Upgrade versions subsume the XP license and therefore it
cannot legally be reinstalled.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:0937F7BA-7B6E-4B6A-B159-F64DE9E25D30[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Bad idea. You'll lose restore points in both OS's. And shadow copies. A
> better solution is to install a 32-bit version of Windows in a Virtual
> Machine on your 64-bit Windows if you still have legacy requirements for
> 32-bit Windows. That won't mess up your restore points, and will only be
> there when you need it. And it's a lot less time consuming to spin up a
> virtual machine that shutdown, reboot to the other OS, do what you have to
> do, shutdown and reboot into your primary OS.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns993ED32BC93A2mgb72mgbhotmailcom[ at ]207.46.248.16...
>> "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> there is NO upgrade path from 32 bit to 64 bit.
>>> not even for vista, much less xp.
>>
>> The retail box of Vista Ultimate that I purchased included both the 32-
>> bit and 64-bit versions of the OS. I installed Vista Ultimate x64 in
>> dual boot with my old XP Pro 32-bit OS. For anyone going x64, I
>> strongly recommend dual booting with the previous OS.
>

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 5/29/2007 1:31:26 PM

True on all counts.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> wrote in message
news:Oxk$7ceoHHA.4124[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> Restore points, etc. are only lost on Vista. Those in XP are untouched.
> If this is an upgrade version there is the problem with needing licenses
> for both systems. Upgrade versions subsume the XP license and therefore
> it cannot legally be reinstalled.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:0937F7BA-7B6E-4B6A-B159-F64DE9E25D30[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Bad idea. You'll lose restore points in both OS's. And shadow copies. A
>> better solution is to install a 32-bit version of Windows in a Virtual
>> Machine on your 64-bit Windows if you still have legacy requirements for
>> 32-bit Windows. That won't mess up your restore points, and will only be
>> there when you need it. And it's a lot less time consuming to spin up a
>> virtual machine that shutdown, reboot to the other OS, do what you have
>> to do, shutdown and reboot into your primary OS.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns993ED32BC93A2mgb72mgbhotmailcom[ at ]207.46.248.16...
>>> "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd[ at ]comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> there is NO upgrade path from 32 bit to 64 bit.
>>>> not even for vista, much less xp.
>>>
>>> The retail box of Vista Ultimate that I purchased included both the 32-
>>> bit and 64-bit versions of the OS. I installed Vista Ultimate x64 in
>>> dual boot with my old XP Pro 32-bit OS. For anyone going x64, I
>>> strongly recommend dual booting with the previous OS.
>>
>

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

Mardon <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> 5/29/2007 7:26:26 PM

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Restore points, etc. are only lost on Vista. Those in XP are
> untouched. If this is an upgrade version there is the problem
> with needing licenses for both systems. Upgrade versions subsume
> the XP license and therefore it cannot legally be reinstalled.

Are the Vista restore points lost by dual booting with XP even when
each OS is on its on HD? Licensing was not an issue for me. My Vista
x64 was not an upgrade purchase.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 5/29/2007 8:29:26 PM

My understanding is that yes, the restore points are lost regardless.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns993FAC4E517Cmgb72mgbhotmailcom[ at ]207.46.248.16...
[Quoted Text]
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> wrote:
>
>> Restore points, etc. are only lost on Vista. Those in XP are
>> untouched. If this is an upgrade version there is the problem
>> with needing licenses for both systems. Upgrade versions subsume
>> the XP license and therefore it cannot legally be reinstalled.
>
> Are the Vista restore points lost by dual booting with XP even when
> each OS is on its on HD? Licensing was not an issue for me. My Vista
> x64 was not an upgrade purchase.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> 5/30/2007 12:15:25 PM

Yes, see Colin's reply for the other items lost. The partition with Vista on
it must be hidden or encrypted.

"Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns993FAC4E517Cmgb72mgbhotmailcom[ at ]207.46.248.16...
[Quoted Text]
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> wrote:
>
>> Restore points, etc. are only lost on Vista. Those in XP are
>> untouched. If this is an upgrade version there is the problem
>> with needing licenses for both systems. Upgrade versions subsume
>> the XP license and therefore it cannot legally be reinstalled.
>
> Are the Vista restore points lost by dual booting with XP even when
> each OS is on its on HD? Licensing was not an issue for me. My Vista
> x64 was not an upgrade purchase.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

Mardon <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> 5/30/2007 9:51:41 PM

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> I do not agree. Dual booting XP and Vista will cause the loss of
> Vista's restore points, shadow copies, backups, and anything else
> that relies on the Vista VSS driver each time you boot into XP.

I'm no computer expert but I'm still having a hard time understanding
why Vista's restore points would be lost when bootting into XP on a
dual boot system like mine, where each OS is on a separate physical
drive. The boot drive is always assigned Drive letter C:, even
though the boot drive is a different physical drive depending on which
OS is booted. When Vista boots to drive C:, the XP volsnap.sys file is
on drive D:, a separate physical drive. How can that affect the Vista
restore points?

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

Mardon <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> 5/30/2007 9:52:55 PM

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Yes, see Colin's reply for the other items lost. The partition
> with Vista on it must be hidden or encrypted.

I'm not talking about a partition, I'm talking about a seperate
physical drive that is assigned a different drive letter during boot.
See my reply to Colin.

Re: Upgrade Windows XP Professional 32bit to 64bit

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> 5/31/2007 1:28:17 AM

It doesn't matter that the partition is on the same or different physical
drives. Colin is correct and my comment about what needs to be done to
prevent data loss stands. The way you installed may have resulted in both
being C drives, but that is not always the case.

"Mardon" <mgb72mgb[ at ]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9940C528925F6mgb72mgbhotmailcom[ at ]207.46.248.16...
[Quoted Text]
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes[ at ]email.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, see Colin's reply for the other items lost. The partition
>> with Vista on it must be hidden or encrypted.
>
> I'm not talking about a partition, I'm talking about a seperate
> physical drive that is assigned a different drive letter during boot.
> See my reply to Colin.

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