Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life CAD2 6/27/2007 2:50:00 PM Hi All, I have just been informed by my distributer that x64 edition of Windows XP Pro is now EOL. Now as you can expect that with our primary customers being in the CAD industry we are now in a severe hole. A substantial amount of CAD products do not work or are not supported with Vista Business 64. Therefore a huge amount of our customers that are purchasing our equipment will be unable to use it with thier software. I am aware that the customer can use the downgrade right for business products but for a customer to be able to do this he has to already own a licenced version of x64 or some sort of MULP agreement which is a ridiculous burden on a new or small business. Are there any other paths that can be explored? Are there any paths as a reseller that we can explore on behalf of the customer? Thanks

Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life Theo <theo[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> 6/27/2007 2:57:29 PM Even though an EOL for Win x64 may have been announced, usually it's around the 3 year mark before it's actually dropped. I would think you have awhile to find another solution. It's not likely it will die immediately since Pro x64 is based on Server 2003 and Microsoft does not have a replacement released for Server 2003 at this time. CAD2 wrote: [Quoted Text] > Hi All, > > I have just been informed by my distributer that x64 edition of Windows XP > Pro is now EOL. Now as you can expect that with our primary customers being > in the CAD industry we are now in a severe hole. A substantial amount of CAD > products do not work or are not supported with Vista Business 64. Therefore a > huge amount of our customers that are purchasing our equipment will be unable > to use it with thier software. I am aware that the customer can use the > downgrade right for business products but for a customer to be able to do > this he has to already own a licenced version of x64 or some sort of MULP > agreement which is a ridiculous burden on a new or small business. > > Are there any other paths that can be explored? Are there any paths as a > reseller that we can explore on behalf of the customer? > > Thanks

Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life Darrellg[ at ]online.microsoft.com ("Darrell Gorter[MSFT]") 6/28/2007 1:38:58 AM Hello, See this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights -------------------- |> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:57:29 -0400 |> From: Theo <theo[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> |> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) |> MIME-Version: 1.0 |> Subject: Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life |> References: <E3B819E0-0E2D-41D0-A1AB-0A4F88D81D47[ at ]microsoft.com> |> In-Reply-To: <E3B819E0-0E2D-41D0-A1AB-0A4F88D81D47[ at ]microsoft.com> |> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed |> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit |> Message-ID: <#GDkGuMuHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> |> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |> NNTP-Posting-Host: h213.183.140.67.ip.alltel.net 67.140.183.213 |> Lines: 1 |> Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl |> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:7688 |> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general |> |> Even though an EOL for Win x64 may have been announced, |> usually it's around the 3 year mark before it's actually |> dropped. I would think you have awhile to find another |> solution. It's not likely it will die immediately since Pro |> x64 is based on Server 2003 and Microsoft does not have a |> replacement released for Server 2003 at this time. |> |> |> CAD2 wrote: |> > Hi All, |> > |> > I have just been informed by my distributer that x64 edition of Windows XP |> > Pro is now EOL. Now as you can expect that with our primary customers being |> > in the CAD industry we are now in a severe hole. A substantial amount of CAD |> > products do not work or are not supported with Vista Business 64. Therefore a |> > huge amount of our customers that are purchasing our equipment will be unable |> > to use it with thier software. I am aware that the customer can use the |> > downgrade right for business products but for a customer to be able to do |> > this he has to already own a licenced version of x64 or some sort of MULP |> > agreement which is a ridiculous burden on a new or small business. |> > |> > Are there any other paths that can be explored? Are there any paths as a |> > reseller that we can explore on behalf of the customer? |> > |> > Thanks |>

Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/28/2007 5:02:53 AM Thanks, I knew that page existed, but couldn't find it this morning. And, as for questions of support, this from the FAQ section... Business and Developer products Microsoft will offer a minimum of 10 years of support for Business and Developer products. Mainstream support for Business and Developer products will be provided for 5 years or for 2 years after the successor product (N+1) is released, whichever is longer. Microsoft will also provide Extended support for the 5 years following Mainstream support or for 2 years after the second successor product (N+2) is released, whichever is longer. Finally, most Business and Developer products will receive at least 10 years of online self-help support. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ODIHeUSuHHA.1644[ at ]TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Hello, > See this link: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx > > Thanks, > Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights > -------------------- > |> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:57:29 -0400 > |> From: Theo <theo[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> > |> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) > |> MIME-Version: 1.0 > |> Subject: Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life > |> References: <E3B819E0-0E2D-41D0-A1AB-0A4F88D81D47[ at ]microsoft.com> > |> In-Reply-To: <E3B819E0-0E2D-41D0-A1AB-0A4F88D81D47[ at ]microsoft.com> > |> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > |> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > |> Message-ID: <#GDkGuMuHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> > |> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > |> NNTP-Posting-Host: h213.183.140.67.ip.alltel.net 67.140.183.213 > |> Lines: 1 > |> Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl > |> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:7688 > |> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > |> > |> Even though an EOL for Win x64 may have been announced, > |> usually it's around the 3 year mark before it's actually > |> dropped. I would think you have awhile to find another > |> solution. It's not likely it will die immediately since Pro > |> x64 is based on Server 2003 and Microsoft does not have a > |> replacement released for Server 2003 at this time. > |> > |> > |> CAD2 wrote: > |> > Hi All, > |> > > |> > I have just been informed by my distributer that x64 edition of > Windows XP > |> > Pro is now EOL. Now as you can expect that with our primary customers > being > |> > in the CAD industry we are now in a severe hole. A substantial amount > of CAD > |> > products do not work or are not supported with Vista Business 64. > Therefore a > |> > huge amount of our customers that are purchasing our equipment will > be > unable > |> > to use it with thier software. I am aware that the customer can use > the > |> > downgrade right for business products but for a customer to be able > to > do > |> > this he has to already own a licenced version of x64 or some sort of > MULP > |> > agreement which is a ridiculous burden on a new or small business. > |> > > |> > Are there any other paths that can be explored? Are there any paths > as > a > |> > reseller that we can explore on behalf of the customer? > |> > > |> > Thanks > |> >

Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life "Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw[ at ]online.microsoft.com> 6/28/2007 10:56:46 PM Looking at the lifecycle page, Windows XP x64 Edition and all other Windows XP edition will remain for sale until January 31, 2008. System builders can continue to get it until January 31, 2009. If you check http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=8599 you will see that Mainstream support from Microsoft ends April 14, 2009. Extended support remains avialable through April 8, 2014. It sounds like more the vendor has decided to EOL Windows XP x64 Edition, not Microsoft. -- Chuck Walbourn SDE, XNA Developer Connection This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/29/2007 12:50:30 AM Yup, I'd agree. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:46843cae$1[ at ]news.microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Looking at the lifecycle page, Windows XP x64 Edition and all other > Windows XP edition will remain for sale until January 31, 2008. System > builders can continue to get it until January 31, 2009. If you check > http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=8599 you will see that > Mainstream support from Microsoft ends April 14, 2009. Extended support > remains avialable through April 8, 2014. > > It sounds like more the vendor has decided to EOL Windows XP x64 Edition, > not Microsoft. > > -- > Chuck Walbourn > SDE, XNA Developer Connection > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. >

Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life "Doug Forster" <nobody[ at ]nowhere,com> 6/29/2007 2:31:43 AM Hi Darrell, Just to extend the topic slightly. What will be the status of of the activation process as XP and other activated products move past EOL date especially for MSDN licensing but also re hardware changes that might require reactivation? Our company uses several dev tools that simply don't work on Vista and we are committed to these for many years yet. Cheers Doug Forster ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg[ at ]online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ODIHeUSuHHA.1644[ at ]TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... [Quoted Text] > Hello, > See this link: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx > > Thanks, > Darrell Gorter[MSFT] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights > -------------------- > |> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:57:29 -0400 > |> From: Theo <theo[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> > |> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) > |> MIME-Version: 1.0 > |> Subject: Re: Microsoft XP Professional x64 Edition End Of Life > |> References: <E3B819E0-0E2D-41D0-A1AB-0A4F88D81D47[ at ]microsoft.com> > |> In-Reply-To: <E3B819E0-0E2D-41D0-A1AB-0A4F88D81D47[ at ]microsoft.com> > |> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > |> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > |> Message-ID: <#GDkGuMuHHA.484[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> > |> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > |> NNTP-Posting-Host: h213.183.140.67.ip.alltel.net 67.140.183.213 > |> Lines: 1 > |> Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl > |> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl > microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:7688 > |> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > |> > |> Even though an EOL for Win x64 may have been announced, > |> usually it's around the 3 year mark before it's actually > |> dropped. I would think you have awhile to find another > |> solution. It's not likely it will die immediately since Pro > |> x64 is based on Server 2003 and Microsoft does not have a > |> replacement released for Server 2003 at this time. > |> > |> > |> CAD2 wrote: > |> > Hi All, > |> > > |> > I have just been informed by my distributer that x64 edition of > Windows XP > |> > Pro is now EOL. Now as you can expect that with our primary customers > being > |> > in the CAD industry we are now in a severe hole. A substantial amount > of CAD > |> > products do not work or are not supported with Vista Business 64. > Therefore a > |> > huge amount of our customers that are purchasing our equipment will > be > unable > |> > to use it with thier software. I am aware that the customer can use > the > |> > downgrade right for business products but for a customer to be able > to > do > |> > this he has to already own a licenced version of x64 or some sort of > MULP > |> > agreement which is a ridiculous burden on a new or small business. > |> > > |> > Are there any other paths that can be explored? Are there any paths > as > a > |> > reseller that we can explore on behalf of the customer? > |> > > |> > Thanks > |> >