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Some advice please :-)
CA55IUS 4/25/2007 10:22:02 PM
i Some advice please.

Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting vista
ultimate 64 bit on it.

Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array on
hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.

What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and in
the future for game, apps , hardware etc.

Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games and
apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.

Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista, would
it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it and
select run as xp compatibility.

So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be ace
Smile.

Thank you very much

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 4/25/2007 11:44:21 PM
64-bit is certainly the way forward. But that being said, there are still
some driver and compatibility issues as manufacturers and developers move
from purely 32-bit to a mixed world of 32 and 64 bit. There's a useful
whitepaper I wrote for MS on XP x64 which is still somewhat useful to
understand the issues around 64bit and 32-bit. And where things don't work
well.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/6/B868C664-13FC-4F91-9651-5B6D4F1A2F60/Is_Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition_Right_for_Me.doc

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>i Some advice please.
>
> Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
> vista
> ultimate 64 bit on it.
>
> Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array on
> hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>
> What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and in
> the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>
> Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games and
> apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>
> Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista, would
> it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it and
> select run as xp compatibility.
>
> So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be ace
> Smile.
>
> Thank you very much
>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)[ at ]msn.com> 4/26/2007 12:16:14 AM
I installed Vista Ultimate on my Core 2 Duo E6600 system with no driver
issues. You did not say what brand of computer you have, but check the
manufacturer's website for x64 Vista drivers. There is no general statement
that can cover programs and games, but there is an issue when dual booting
xp and Vista. Every time you boot xp you will lose your Vista recovery
files, such as system restore points and shadow copy files. The only
prevention is to install a boot manager that can hide the Vista volume from
xp.

--
Colin Barnhorst
MVP Virtual Machine
"CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>i Some advice please.
>
> Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
> vista
> ultimate 64 bit on it.
>
> Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array on
> hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>
> What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and in
> the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>
> Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games and
> apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>
> Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista, would
> it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it and
> select run as xp compatibility.
>
> So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be ace
> Smile.
>
> Thank you very much
>


Re: Some advice please :-)
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 4/26/2007 12:35:57 AM
While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do not.
Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games are
tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app itself
(hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be prepared
to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their stuff.

Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
fail!


Tony. . .


"CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> i Some advice please.
>
> Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
vista
> ultimate 64 bit on it.
>
> Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array on
> hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>
> What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and in
> the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>
> Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games and
> apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>
> Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista, would
> it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it and
> select run as xp compatibility.
>
> So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be ace
> Smile.
>
> Thank you very much
>


Re: Some advice please :-)
Carlos 4/26/2007 12:14:03 PM
Tony:
So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
:-))))
Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions of
its law.
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do not.
> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games are
> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app itself
> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be prepared
> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their stuff.
>
> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
> fail!
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > i Some advice please.
> >
> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
> vista
> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> >
> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array on
> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> >
> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and in
> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> >
> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games and
> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> >
> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista, would
> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it and
> > select run as xp compatibility.
> >
> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be ace
> > Smile.
> >
> > Thank you very much
> >
>
>
>
Re: Some advice please :-)
"Dennis Pack" <dennispack[ at ]hotmail.nospam.com> 4/26/2007 12:36:26 PM
Carlos:
Murphy's Law seems to work overtime here in Michigan. Have a great
day.

--
Dennis Pack
XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64
Office Prof. Plus 2007
"Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Tony:
> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> :-))))
> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions of
> its law.
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
>> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
>> not.
>> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games are
>> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>> itself
>> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>> prepared
>> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>> stuff.
>>
>> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
>> fail!
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > i Some advice please.
>> >
>> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
>> vista
>> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>> >
>> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array
>> > on
>> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>> >
>> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and
>> > in
>> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>> >
>> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>> > and
>> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>> >
>> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>> > would
>> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it
>> > and
>> > select run as xp compatibility.
>> >
>> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>> > ace
>> > Smile.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 4/26/2007 1:50:11 PM
Oh sure, I suspect poor Murphy has been around since man's creation - if he
didn't actually participate in the act? Now then, he's got his fumbling
fingers in everything.


Tony. . .


"Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Tony:
> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> :-))))
> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions of
> its law.
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
not.
> > Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
are
> > tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
itself
> > (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
prepared
> > to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
stuff.
> >
> > Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
> > fail!
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > i Some advice please.
> > >
> > > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
> > vista
> > > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> > >
> > > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
array on
> > > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> > >
> > > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
and in
> > > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> > >
> > > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
and
> > > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> > >
> > > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
would
> > > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it
and
> > > select run as xp compatibility.
> > >
> > > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
ace
> > > Smile.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much
> > >
> >
> >
> >


Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> 4/26/2007 2:14:33 PM
I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."

"Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Tony:
> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> :-))))
> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions of
> its law.
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
>> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
>> not.
>> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games are
>> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>> itself
>> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>> prepared
>> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>> stuff.
>>
>> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
>> fail!
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > i Some advice please.
>> >
>> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
>> vista
>> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>> >
>> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0 array
>> > on
>> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>> >
>> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now and
>> > in
>> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>> >
>> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>> > and
>> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>> >
>> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>> > would
>> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it
>> > and
>> > select run as xp compatibility.
>> >
>> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>> > ace
>> > Smile.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Re: Some advice please :-)
Carlos 4/26/2007 2:18:02 PM
Murphy created Women when trying to create Man.
:)
Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> Oh sure, I suspect poor Murphy has been around since man's creation - if he
> didn't actually participate in the act? Now then, he's got his fumbling
> fingers in everything.
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Tony:
> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> > :-))))
> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions of
> > its law.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >
> > > While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
> not.
> > > Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
> are
> > > tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
> itself
> > > (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
> prepared
> > > to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
> stuff.
> > >
> > > Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
> > > fail!
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony. . .
> > >
> > >
> > > "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > > i Some advice please.
> > > >
> > > > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
> > > vista
> > > > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> > > >
> > > > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
> array on
> > > > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> > > >
> > > > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
> and in
> > > > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> > > >
> > > > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
> and
> > > > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> > > >
> > > > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
> would
> > > > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it
> and
> > > > select run as xp compatibility.
> > > >
> > > > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
> ace
> > > > Smile.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
Re: Some advice please :-)
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 4/26/2007 2:28:58 PM
That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it - thanks,
Colin!

(Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the moment.)


Tony. . .


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Tony:
> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> > :-))))
> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions
of
> > its law.
> > Carlos
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >
> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
> >> not.
> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
are
> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
> >> itself
> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
> >> prepared
> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
will
> >> fail!
> >>
> >>
> >> Tony. . .
> >>
> >>
> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > i Some advice please.
> >> >
> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
> >> vista
> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> >> >
> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
array
> >> > on
> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> >> >
> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
and
> >> > in
> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> >> >
> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
> >> > and
> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> >> >
> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
> >> > would
> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on
it
> >> > and
> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
> >> >
> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
> >> > ace
> >> > Smile.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you very much
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>


Re: Some advice please :-)
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 4/26/2007 2:50:32 PM
The books that got us really going were the Murphy's Laws of DOS and
Murphy's Laws of Windows. We created the series for Sybex. :)

:D

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> Tony:
>> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>> :-))))
>> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions
>> of
>> its law.
>> Carlos
>>
>> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>>
>>> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
>>> not.
>>> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
>>> are
>>> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>>> itself
>>> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>>> prepared
>>> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next, will
>>> fail!
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony. . .
>>>
>>>
>>> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> > i Some advice please.
>>> >
>>> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
>>> vista
>>> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>>> >
>>> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
>>> > array on
>>> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>>> >
>>> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
>>> > and in
>>> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>>> >
>>> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>>> > and
>>> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>>> >
>>> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>>> > would
>>> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on it
>>> > and
>>> > select run as xp compatibility.
>>> >
>>> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>>> > ace
>>> > Smile.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you very much
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 4/26/2007 3:06:56 PM
To balance the pranks for a general audience, and this being so O.T.
already - do you know how to make a 'male' brain look like a pea?

- First, you inflate it to twice it's size, then you paint it green! -

(This one you can bring back home, Carlos!)


Tony. . .


"Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6F533384-1937-4529-ABC7-1FC527BDD0A5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Murphy created Women when trying to create Man.
> :)
> Carlos
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
> > Oh sure, I suspect poor Murphy has been around since man's creation - if
he
> > didn't actually participate in the act? Now then, he's got his fumbling
> > fingers in everything.
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > Tony:
> > > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> > > :-))))
> > > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential
versions of
> > > its law.
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> > >
> > > > While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
do
> > not.
> > > > Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all.
Games
> > are
> > > > tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
> > itself
> > > > (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
> > prepared
> > > > to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
> > stuff.
> > > >
> > > > Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
will
> > > > fail!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tony. . .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > > > > i Some advice please.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
putting
> > > > vista
> > > > > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
> > array on
> > > > > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both
now
> > and in
> > > > > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will
games
> > and
> > > > > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit
vista,
> > would
> > > > > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click
on it
> > and
> > > > > select run as xp compatibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would
be
> > ace
> > > > > Smile.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >


Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> 4/26/2007 3:31:07 PM
For all I know it was an apocryphal O'Toole. Sorry.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:uEgnJ9AiHHA.3412[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it - thanks,
> Colin!
>
> (Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the moment.)
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Tony:
>> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>> > :-))))
>> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions
> of
>> > its law.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>> >
>> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
>> >> do
>> >> not.
>> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
> are
>> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>> >> itself
>> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>> >> prepared
>> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>> >> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
> will
>> >> fail!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tony. . .
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> > i Some advice please.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
>> >> > putting
>> >> vista
>> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
> array
>> >> > on
>> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
> and
>> >> > in
>> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>> >> > and
>> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>> >> > would
>> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on
> it
>> >> > and
>> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
>> >> >
>> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>> >> > ace
>> >> > Smile.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you very much
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> 4/26/2007 3:32:17 PM
I thought I detected sufficient perverseness in you to do such a thing,
Charlie. :)

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:25FB468C-DFF5-4288-B1CC-C572569615C9[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> The books that got us really going were the Murphy's Laws of DOS and
> Murphy's Laws of Windows. We created the series for Sybex. :)
>
> :D
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> Tony:
>>> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>>> :-))))
>>> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions
>>> of
>>> its law.
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>>>
>>>> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some do
>>>> not.
>>>> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
>>>> are
>>>> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>>>> itself
>>>> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>>>> prepared
>>>> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
>>>> will
>>>> fail!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>> > i Some advice please.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and putting
>>>> vista
>>>> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
>>>> > array on
>>>> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>>>> >
>>>> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
>>>> > and in
>>>> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>>>> > and
>>>> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>>>> > would
>>>> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on
>>>> > it and
>>>> > select run as xp compatibility.
>>>> >
>>>> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>>>> > ace
>>>> > Smile.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you very much
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> 4/26/2007 3:33:49 PM
I knew a corrollary to O'Toole's Law that said "And it will be worse than
you think." I don't remember the name associated with that law.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
news:uEgnJ9AiHHA.3412[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
[Quoted Text]
> That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it - thanks,
> Colin!
>
> (Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the moment.)
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > Tony:
>> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>> > :-))))
>> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions
> of
>> > its law.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>> >
>> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
>> >> do
>> >> not.
>> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
> are
>> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>> >> itself
>> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>> >> prepared
>> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>> >> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
> will
>> >> fail!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tony. . .
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> >> > i Some advice please.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
>> >> > putting
>> >> vista
>> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
> array
>> >> > on
>> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
> and
>> >> > in
>> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>> >> > and
>> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>> >> > would
>> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on
> it
>> >> > and
>> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
>> >> >
>> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>> >> > ace
>> >> > Smile.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you very much
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 4/26/2007 5:37:02 PM
There is a famous variation - just when you think it can't get any worse, it
does!


Tony. . .


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:B8183897-9AA1-43C8-9711-13D9C22C7EBE[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> I knew a corrollary to O'Toole's Law that said "And it will be worse than
> you think." I don't remember the name associated with that law.
>
> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> news:uEgnJ9AiHHA.3412[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it - thanks,
> > Colin!
> >
> > (Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the
moment.)
> >
> >
> > Tony. . .
> >
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
> >>
> >> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > Tony:
> >> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> >> > :-))))
> >> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential
versions
> > of
> >> > its law.
> >> > Carlos
> >> >
> >> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
> >> >> do
> >> >> not.
> >> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all.
Games
> > are
> >> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
> >> >> itself
> >> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
> >> >> prepared
> >> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
> >> >> stuff.
> >> >>
> >> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
> > will
> >> >> fail!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Tony. . .
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> >> > i Some advice please.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
> >> >> > putting
> >> >> vista
> >> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
> > array
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both
now
> > and
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will
games
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit
vista,
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click
on
> > it
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would
be
> >> >> > ace
> >> >> > Smile.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you very much
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>


Re: Some advice please :-)
Carlos 4/26/2007 6:00:02 PM
Tell me about it!
I got married twice with the same woman!
Carlos
P.S.: It is true and with a happy ending, like in the fairy tales

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> There is a famous variation - just when you think it can't get any worse, it
> does!
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:B8183897-9AA1-43C8-9711-13D9C22C7EBE[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > I knew a corrollary to O'Toole's Law that said "And it will be worse than
> > you think." I don't remember the name associated with that law.
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> > news:uEgnJ9AiHHA.3412[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it - thanks,
> > > Colin!
> > >
> > > (Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the
> moment.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony. . .
> > >
> > >
> > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > >> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
> > >>
> > >> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > >> > Tony:
> > >> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> > >> > :-))))
> > >> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential
> versions
> > > of
> > >> > its law.
> > >> > Carlos
> > >> >
> > >> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
> > >> >> do
> > >> >> not.
> > >> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all.
> Games
> > > are
> > >> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
> > >> >> itself
> > >> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
> > >> >> prepared
> > >> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
> > >> >> stuff.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
> > > will
> > >> >> fail!
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Tony. . .
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > >> >> > i Some advice please.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
> > >> >> > putting
> > >> >> vista
> > >> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
> > > array
> > >> >> > on
> > >> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both
> now
> > > and
> > >> >> > in
> > >> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will
> games
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit
> vista,
> > >> >> > would
> > >> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click
> on
> > > it
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would
> be
> > >> >> > ace
> > >> >> > Smile.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thank you very much
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> 4/26/2007 6:34:20 PM
I did too. My present wife is also my first. We finally agreed that
divorce was no solution. Homicide, maybe. Divorce, no.

"Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:00AABEC8-0748-4CF3-8351-6C0C8DEF638B[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Tell me about it!
> I got married twice with the same woman!
> Carlos
> P.S.: It is true and with a happy ending, like in the fairy tales
>
> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>
>> There is a famous variation - just when you think it can't get any worse,
>> it
>> does!
>>
>>
>> Tony. . .
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:B8183897-9AA1-43C8-9711-13D9C22C7EBE[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > I knew a corrollary to O'Toole's Law that said "And it will be worse
>> > than
>> > you think." I don't remember the name associated with that law.
>> >
>> > "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
>> > news:uEgnJ9AiHHA.3412[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > > That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it -
>> > > thanks,
>> > > Colin!
>> > >
>> > > (Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the
>> moment.)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Tony. . .
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > >> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>> > >>
>> > >> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > >> > Tony:
>> > >> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>> > >> > :-))))
>> > >> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential
>> versions
>> > > of
>> > >> > its law.
>> > >> > Carlos
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work,
>> > >> >> some
>> > >> >> do
>> > >> >> not.
>> > >> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all.
>> Games
>> > > are
>> > >> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the
>> > >> >> app
>> > >> >> itself
>> > >> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So,
>> > >> >> be
>> > >> >> prepared
>> > >> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port
>> > >> >> their
>> > >> >> stuff.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run
>> > >> >> next,
>> > > will
>> > >> >> fail!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Tony. . .
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> > >> >> > i Some advice please.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
>> > >> >> > putting
>> > >> >> vista
>> > >> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid
>> > >> >> > 0
>> > > array
>> > >> >> > on
>> > >> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both
>> now
>> > > and
>> > >> >> > in
>> > >> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will
>> games
>> > >> >> > and
>> > >> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit
>> vista,
>> > >> >> > would
>> > >> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right
>> > >> >> > click
>> on
>> > > it
>> > >> >> > and
>> > >> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice
>> > >> >> > would
>> be
>> > >> >> > ace
>> > >> >> > Smile.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Thank you very much
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> 4/26/2007 9:24:10 PM
That's great. Just like the planet. Rupture is a healing process.


Tony. . .


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:76703045-9EA6-487D-8709-E7482C09935F[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> I did too. My present wife is also my first. We finally agreed that
> divorce was no solution. Homicide, maybe. Divorce, no.
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:00AABEC8-0748-4CF3-8351-6C0C8DEF638B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> > Tell me about it!
> > I got married twice with the same woman!
> > Carlos
> > P.S.: It is true and with a happy ending, like in the fairy tales
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >
> >> There is a famous variation - just when you think it can't get any
worse,
> >> it
> >> does!
> >>
> >>
> >> Tony. . .
> >>
> >>
> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B8183897-9AA1-43C8-9711-13D9C22C7EBE[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > I knew a corrollary to O'Toole's Law that said "And it will be worse
> >> > than
> >> > you think." I don't remember the name associated with that law.
> >> >
> >> > "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling[ at ]dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message
> >> > news:uEgnJ9AiHHA.3412[ at ]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > > That, is exactly my understanding, although I didn't knew it -
> >> > > thanks,
> >> > > Colin!
> >> > >
> >> > > (Which O'Tool is that, by the way? I can only recall Peter at the
> >> moment.)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony. . .
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > >> I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > >> > Tony:
> >> > >> > So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
> >> > >> > :-))))
> >> > >> > Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential
> >> versions
> >> > > of
> >> > >> > its law.
> >> > >> > Carlos
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work,
> >> > >> >> some
> >> > >> >> do
> >> > >> >> not.
> >> > >> >> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all.
> >> Games
> >> > > are
> >> > >> >> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within
the
> >> > >> >> app
> >> > >> >> itself
> >> > >> >> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution.
So,
> >> > >> >> be
> >> > >> >> prepared
> >> > >> >> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port
> >> > >> >> their
> >> > >> >> stuff.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run
> >> > >> >> next,
> >> > > will
> >> > >> >> fail!
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Tony. . .
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> >> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
> >> > >> >> > i Some advice please.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
> >> > >> >> > putting
> >> > >> >> vista
> >> > >> >> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb
raid
> >> > >> >> > 0
> >> > > array
> >> > >> >> > on
> >> > >> >> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support
both
> >> now
> >> > > and
> >> > >> >> > in
> >> > >> >> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And
will
> >> games
> >> > >> >> > and
> >> > >> >> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit
> >> vista,
> >> > >> >> > would
> >> > >> >> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right
> >> > >> >> > click
> >> on
> >> > > it
> >> > >> >> > and
> >> > >> >> > select run as xp compatibility.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice
> >> > >> >> > would
> >> be
> >> > >> >> > ace
> >> > >> >> > Smile.
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > Thank you very much
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>


Re: Some advice please :-)
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 4/27/2007 12:00:49 AM
Indeed. I still have a poster up above my desk for Murphy's Computer Law.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
news:389802EE-5796-4EBA-AA57-BC9A054C8B66[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I thought I detected sufficient perverseness in you to do such a thing,
>Charlie. :)
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> news:25FB468C-DFF5-4288-B1CC-C572569615C9[ at ]microsoft.com...
>> The books that got us really going were the Murphy's Laws of DOS and
>> Murphy's Laws of Windows. We created the series for Sybex. :)
>>
>> :D
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>>>
>>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>> Tony:
>>>> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>>>> :-))))
>>>> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential versions
>>>> of
>>>> its law.
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
>>>>> do not.
>>>>> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
>>>>> are
>>>>> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>>>>> itself
>>>>> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>>>>> prepared
>>>>> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
>>>>> will
>>>>> fail!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>> > i Some advice please.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
>>>>> > putting
>>>>> vista
>>>>> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
>>>>> > array on
>>>>> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
>>>>> > and in
>>>>> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will games
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit vista,
>>>>> > would
>>>>> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on
>>>>> > it and
>>>>> > select run as xp compatibility.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would be
>>>>> > ace
>>>>> > Smile.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you very much
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Some advice please :-)
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)[ at ]msn.com> 4/27/2007 12:13:09 AM
I know, you got a paper cut putting it up. ;)

--
Colin Barnhorst
MVP Virtual Machine
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:7E829163-A944-492F-B03C-4355FEDBE3AF[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
> Indeed. I still have a poster up above my desk for Murphy's Computer Law.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:389802EE-5796-4EBA-AA57-BC9A054C8B66[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>I thought I detected sufficient perverseness in you to do such a thing,
>>Charlie. :)
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
>> news:25FB468C-DFF5-4288-B1CC-C572569615C9[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>> The books that got us really going were the Murphy's Laws of DOS and
>>> Murphy's Laws of Windows. We created the series for Sybex. :)
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst[ at ]msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:85A1BB0A-399D-4DDB-9401-96F0638E4C9B[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>I subscribe to O'Toole's corrollary: "Murpy was an optimist."
>>>>
>>>> "Carlos" <Carlos[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:71AB8CE3-0FA4-4CB2-A28B-A291B4AD6B95[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>> Tony:
>>>>> So you say that Murphy's Law is also valid in Denmark?
>>>>> :-))))
>>>>> Here in Argentina Murphy works "overtime", running exponential
>>>>> versions of
>>>>> its law.
>>>>> Carlos
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tony Sperling" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While modern 32bit app's in general can be relied upon to work, some
>>>>>> do not.
>>>>>> Some still use 16bit installers, and they will not work at all. Games
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> tricky in that they may use driver-like functionality within the app
>>>>>> itself
>>>>>> (hardware dependent code) and that will break the execution. So, be
>>>>>> prepared
>>>>>> to experiment, and to 'lean' on the producers who fail to port their
>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Murphy's Law dictates that the game you are most eager to run next,
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> fail!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony. . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "CA55IUS" <CA55IUS[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8D3A6686-F153-461E-A663-7C13D799EEFA[ at ]microsoft.com...
>>>>>> > i Some advice please.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ive got windows xp mce, im thinking of making a partition and
>>>>>> > putting
>>>>>> vista
>>>>>> > ultimate 64 bit on it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Briefly ive got a core2duo e6600 o/clk to 3ghz, with 500gb raid 0
>>>>>> > array on
>>>>>> > hardisk using nvidia forceware, nvidia 680i asus motherboard.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > What I want to know is, is there going to be 64bit support both now
>>>>>> > and in
>>>>>> > the future for game, apps , hardware etc.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Is 64 bit the way forward, will any games work on it. And will
>>>>>> > games and
>>>>>> > apps that general work on 32 bit vista work on 64 bit?.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Also how would the compatibility part of vista work on 64 bit
>>>>>> > vista, would
>>>>>> > it convert it back to 32 bit to run the file, when u right click on
>>>>>> > it and
>>>>>> > select run as xp compatibility.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So many questions...... I know its a first post, but advice would
>>>>>> > be ace
>>>>>> > Smile.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thank you very much
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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