Question about WHS. "Dennis Pack" <dennispack[ at ]hotmail.nospam.com> 6/1/2007 12:17:27 AM Since WHS is only available in 32-bit and a 64-bit operating system can't access it, will running Longhorn standard x64 be close to WHS? Have a great day. -- Dennis Pack XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64 Office Prof. Plus 2007

Re: Question about WHS. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/1/2007 6:03:34 AM There is no comparison at all between the two. Apples and Oranges. That being said, I'd be very surprised if there weren't a downloadable solution to the 64-bit client issue within a very reasonable time frame after general product availability. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Dennis Pack" <dennispack[ at ]hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message news:85851809-64D8-435C-85A1-A65F6CDFDE39[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > Since WHS is only available in 32-bit and a 64-bit operating system > can't access it, will running Longhorn standard x64 be close to WHS? Have > a great day. > > -- > Dennis Pack > XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64 > Office Prof. Plus 2007

Re: Question about WHS. "Dennis Pack" <dennispack[ at ]hotmail.nospam.com> 6/1/2007 12:10:47 PM Charlie: Thanks for the reply and confirming my suspicions. Have a great day. -- Dennis Pack XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64 Office Prof. Plus 2007 "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:1A93ED26-FAC6-436D-9633-B030D7CD1A85[ at ]microsoft.com... [Quoted Text] > There is no comparison at all between the two. Apples and Oranges. > > That being said, I'd be very surprised if there weren't a downloadable > solution to the 64-bit client issue within a very reasonable time frame > after general product availability. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Dennis Pack" <dennispack[ at ]hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:85851809-64D8-435C-85A1-A65F6CDFDE39[ at ]microsoft.com... >> Since WHS is only available in 32-bit and a 64-bit operating system >> can't access it, will running Longhorn standard x64 be close to WHS? Have >> a great day. >> >> -- >> Dennis Pack >> XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64 >> Office Prof. Plus 2007 >

Re: Question about WHS. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/2/2007 6:43:14 PM Well, the place to post this is one of the SBS newsgroups, but since I'm in both, I'll answer. SBS 2k3 will undoubtedly be supported officially for as long as Server 2k3 is supported. Certainly it will be supported for several years past now. That being said, once Cougar (the beta name for the next version) is released, the clock on the old one will start ticking. We know that Cougar will be 64-bit only (see Charlie pull a total off-topic post back to legitimate<G>), so their will be a major shift in the hardware requirements for it. This will slow down adoption, I"m sure, if only because the migration will be more complex. And upgrade is out of the question. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Flatus Ohlfahrt" <flatus[ at ]TricareForLife.US> wrote in message news:Xns9943854D71A34flatusTFL[ at ]130.133.1.4... [Quoted Text] > On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:03:34 GMT, Charlie Russel - MVP wrote > in news:1A93ED26-FAC6-436D-9633-B030D7CD1A85[ at ]microsoft.com: > >> There is no comparison at all between the two. Apples and >> Oranges. >> >> That being said, I'd be very surprised if there weren't a >> downloadable solution to the 64-bit client issue within a >> very reasonable time frame after general product >> availability. >> > > Lack of the 64-bit client has been frustrating to me, too. Based on what > you said a week or so ago, I've been wading through the > SBS world. With Exchange, it looks as it's exactly what I want. But, at > the same time, I'm really concerned about commiting to > that item (the original, not R2) when there seems as if there are so many > changes that will emerge in the next year or so. > > I suppose what I want is some sort of reassurance that SBS 03 will be > supported for at least 4 or 5 years. > > Flatus

Re: Question about WHS. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/3/2007 12:04:09 AM Microsoft.public.Windows.Server.SBS is where I spend some time. And there are some really crack SBS MVPs who hang out there, as well as good and helpful users. No troll problems, either. The real problem with the group is that it's too successful. If you don't long on a couple of times a day, things scroll too fast I find. If you can squeeze another GB in that SBS box, it will probably be happier. There's a lot going on in an SBS server. There are good aftermarket books on SBS. I happen to think mine is the best out there, but Eriq Neale's is also excellent and there are others as well. Probably the single biggest suggestion with SBS, however, is to plan on installing it three times. Once just to see all the pieces and realize you totally horked it. Second time to try to get it right. Third time's the charm. Take good notes during the first two, and you'll be in good shape for the last. -- Charlie Russel Author: Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 R2 Administrator's Companion (MS Press) http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Business-Administrators-Companion-Pro-Administrators/dp/0735622809/ref=sr_11_1/104-0475887-4767969?ie=UTF8 http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Flatus Ohlfahrt" <flatus[ at ]TricareForLife.US> wrote in message news:Xns9943BF5677BE2flatusTFL[ at ]130.133.1.4... [Quoted Text] > Thanks for getting back. I will go to SBS instead of WHS. I have a nice > Athlon 64 754 box w/1-GB that I'll load up with > drives. Should make a nice server. > > I'll continue on w/XP x64 with a 4-GB AM2. And I have another 4-GB am2 > that I'll use as a general purpose XP pro machine. > > I'll remove WHS from the machine it's now on. I'll use that box for > experimentation. I think I'll mess around with some multi- > homed stuff--haven't done that since I was using ISDN years ago. (It's > nice being retired--but Social Security doesn't go to > far so migration is essential.) > > The only pure SBS group that I've found is m.p.w.s.SBS. Do you know of a > group that is more like this one--with really helpful > people such as you? > > Thanks, again. > > Flatus > > > On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:43:14 GMT, Charlie Russel - MVP wrote > in news:02AAA2F5-DCE4-4E34-89A5-2747C82D6E41[ at ]microsoft.com: > >> Well, the place to post this is one of the SBS newsgroups, >> but since I'm in both, I'll answer. SBS 2k3 will >> undoubtedly be supported officially for as long as Server >> 2k3 is supported. Certainly it will be supported for >> several years past now. That being said, once Cougar (the >> beta name for the next version) is released, the clock on >> the old one will start ticking. We know that Cougar will >> be 64-bit only (see Charlie pull a total off-topic post >> back to legitimate<G>), so their will be a major shift in >> the hardware requirements for it. This will slow down >> adoption, I"m sure, if only because the migration will be >> more complex. And upgrade is out of the question. > > > > -- > We fought hard for what we earned. > Tricare for Life is at: > http://www.tricareforlife.org > Tricare is at: > http://www.tricare.org

Re: Question about WHS. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/3/2007 5:41:37 AM yeah, it feels a bit odd to do it that way, but I didn't come up with that "three times" business. In fact, I really don't know who did. But a lot of us who work with SBS have found it to be remarkably accurate. FWIW, I've found SBS to be a very satisfactory product. I run my business on it, and I can't wait till it moves to 64-bit, since I like the options that gives us. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Flatus Ohlfahrt" <flatus[ at ]TricareForLife.US> wrote in message news:Xns9943E0783CFBflatusTFL[ at ]130.133.1.4... [Quoted Text] > Thanks, Charlie. I'll follow your advice on the install. And on the > preferred author for a good book. And, I can probably manage > the RAM. > > Doing it three times and taking lots of notes will take me back to peek > and poke days, which is okay, too! > > Flatus > > On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:04:09 GMT, Charlie Russel - MVP wrote > in news:032F7283-C97B-4D27-A87A-EBCD16A82378[ at ]microsoft.com: > >> Microsoft.public.Windows.Server.SBS is where I spend some >> time. And there are some really crack SBS MVPs who hang out >> there, as well as good and helpful users. No troll >> problems, either. The real problem with the group is that >> it's too successful. If you don't long on a couple of times >> a day, things scroll too fast I find. >> >> If you can squeeze another GB in that SBS box, it will >> probably be happier. There's a lot going on in an SBS >> server. There are good aftermarket books on SBS. I happen >> to think mine is the best out there, but Eriq Neale's is >> also excellent and there are others as well. Probably the >> single biggest suggestion with SBS, however, is to plan on >> installing it three times. Once just to see all the pieces >> and realize you totally horked it. Second time to try to >> get it right. Third time's the charm. Take good notes >> during the first two, and you'll be in good shape for the >> last. >