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I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of the shadow copies if you start it.
That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, I am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I will assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it.
The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but I have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of whether I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as the guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was originally installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy.
Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see paying MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring a question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base without paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things legal and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated. -- Thanks for your assistance, sincerely Ruf1.
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You may legally have only one single Product Key activated at a time. Two installations of XP Home with the same Product Key would be a direct violation of the Microsoft End User License Agreement (EULA).
For more information, see the End-User License Agreement, located at DriveLetter:\Systemroot\System32\eula.txt. I.E. if your system is on drive C: then your EULA is at: C:\Windows\System32\eula.txt and for XP Home states:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by more than one processor at any one time on any single Workstation Computer.
ruf1 wrote:
[Quoted Text] > I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for > backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the > bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of the > shadow copies if you start it. > > That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, I > am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I will > assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it. > > The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but I > have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of whether > I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as the > guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was originally > installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy. > > Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see paying > MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring a > question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base without > paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things legal > and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated.
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First, it depends slightly on your copy of XP Home. If it is an OEM copy, you can't do anything with it. If it's a retail copy, you have the option of removing it from the dual boot and installing it in a virtual environment. But you can't have both copies installed simultaneously. (Though I'd argue that you could do a temporary install in the virtual environment without removing the dual boot for a few days just to ensure that there were no problems. Probably a technical violation, but I'd just delay activating the virtual one until you are sure it's all working as you'd expect.)
-- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"ruf1" <ruf1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2D115303-9F93-49CA-927A-8190373856E5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text] >I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for > backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the > bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of > the > shadow copies if you start it. > > That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, > I > am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I > will > assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it. > > The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but > I > have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of > whether > I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as > the > guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was > originally > installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy. > > Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see > paying > MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring > a > question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base > without > paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things > legal > and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated. > -- > Thanks for your assistance, sincerely Ruf1.
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-- Thanks for your assistance, sincerely Ruf1.
"Theo" wrote:
[Quoted Text] > You may legally have only one single Product Key activated > at a time. Two installations of XP Home with the same > Product Key would be a direct violation of the Microsoft End > User License Agreement (EULA). > > For more information, see the End-User License Agreement, > located at DriveLetter:\Systemroot\System32\eula.txt. I.E. > if your system is on drive C: then your EULA is at: > C:\Windows\System32\eula.txt and for XP Home states: > > 1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, > display and run one copy of the Software on a single > computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device > ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by > more than one processor at any one time on any single > Workstation Computer.
I would argue that I am not violating 1.1 since it will be installed on the same machine and be a guest on the Vista machine only. So at no time will it be accessed by more that one processer on any singlework station, and it is legally installed on the machine that it is being used on. It is an OEM version so I can't do as Charlie suggests in the next post which would have been a viable solution had I purchased the retail box when I built the machine.
Thanks though I really appreciate your answer. It confirms what I already suspected.
It is unfortunate that I was unaware of the corruption problem of running Windows in a dual boot configuration. Had I known about it prior to installation I would have made diffent choices and only installed it as a Virtual Guest, since I am only using it for backwards compatability and overall am extremely pleased with the Vista Ultimate 64, it is running fine.
I am actually confused by all the bad press Vista seems to be getting. That maybe due to planning on my part though. It is on a new machine and I made sure there where 64-bit drivers for all my hardware before I purchased it. I imagine an upgrade on an older machine may be more difficult.
The only part of my question that remains unanswered at this point is does anyone know of a way to bring the question to the attention of Microsoft short of paying for support. I don't need an immediate answer from them but would like to see the licensing issue clarified in the Knowledge base. But the money I would spend for support will be better spent buying yet another copy of Windows XP. I feel really abused by the corporate giant at the moment.
Thanks again Theo and Charlie Russel > > > > > ruf1 wrote: > > I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for > > backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the > > bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of the > > shadow copies if you start it. > > > > That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, I > > am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I will > > assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it. > > > > The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but I > > have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of whether > > I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as the > > guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was originally > > installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy. > > > > Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see paying > > MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring a > > question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base without > > paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things legal > > and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated. >
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