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Thread: Can I install XP Home on a virtual PC without a licensing snafu?

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Can I install XP Home on a virtual PC without a licensing snafu?
ruf1 6/26/2007 2:09:01 PM
I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for
backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the
bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of the
shadow copies if you start it.

That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, I
am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I will
assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it.

The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but I
have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of whether
I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as the
guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was originally
installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy.

Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see paying
MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring a
question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base without
paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things legal
and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated.
--
Thanks for your assistance, sincerely Ruf1.
Re: Can I install XP Home on a virtual PC without a licensing snafu?
Theo <theo[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> 6/26/2007 2:30:56 PM
You may legally have only one single Product Key activated
at a time. Two installations of XP Home with the same
Product Key would be a direct violation of the Microsoft End
User License Agreement (EULA).

For more information, see the End-User License Agreement,
located at DriveLetter:\Systemroot\System32\eula.txt. I.E.
if your system is on drive C: then your EULA is at:
C:\Windows\System32\eula.txt and for XP Home states:

1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single
computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by
more than one processor at any one time on any single
Workstation Computer.




ruf1 wrote:
[Quoted Text]
> I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for
> backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the
> bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of the
> shadow copies if you start it.
>
> That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, I
> am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I will
> assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it.
>
> The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but I
> have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of whether
> I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as the
> guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was originally
> installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy.
>
> Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see paying
> MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring a
> question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base without
> paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things legal
> and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated.
Re: Can I install XP Home on a virtual PC without a licensing snafu?
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie[ at ]mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> 6/26/2007 2:44:43 PM
First, it depends slightly on your copy of XP Home. If it is an OEM copy,
you can't do anything with it. If it's a retail copy, you have the option of
removing it from the dual boot and installing it in a virtual environment.
But you can't have both copies installed simultaneously. (Though I'd argue
that you could do a temporary install in the virtual environment without
removing the dual boot for a few days just to ensure that there were no
problems. Probably a technical violation, but I'd just delay activating the
virtual one until you are sure it's all working as you'd expect.)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"ruf1" <ruf1[ at ]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D115303-9F93-49CA-927A-8190373856E5[ at ]microsoft.com...
[Quoted Text]
>I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for
> backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the
> bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of
> the
> shadow copies if you start it.
>
> That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch,
> I
> am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I
> will
> assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it.
>
> The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but
> I
> have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of
> whether
> I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as
> the
> guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was
> originally
> installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy.
>
> Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see
> paying
> MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring
> a
> question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base
> without
> paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things
> legal
> and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated.
> --
> Thanks for your assistance, sincerely Ruf1.

Re: Can I install XP Home on a virtual PC without a licensing snaf
ruf1 6/26/2007 3:26:02 PM

--
Thanks for your assistance, sincerely Ruf1.


"Theo" wrote:

[Quoted Text]
> You may legally have only one single Product Key activated
> at a time. Two installations of XP Home with the same
> Product Key would be a direct violation of the Microsoft End
> User License Agreement (EULA).
>
> For more information, see the End-User License Agreement,
> located at DriveLetter:\Systemroot\System32\eula.txt. I.E.
> if your system is on drive C: then your EULA is at:
> C:\Windows\System32\eula.txt and for XP Home states:
>
> 1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
> display and run one copy of the Software on a single
> computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
> ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by
> more than one processor at any one time on any single
> Workstation Computer.

I would argue that I am not violating 1.1 since it will be installed on the
same machine and be a guest on the Vista machine only. So at no time will it
be accessed by more that one processer on any singlework station, and it is
legally installed on the machine that it is being used on. It is an OEM
version so I can't do as Charlie suggests in the next post which would have
been a viable solution had I purchased the retail box when I built the
machine.

Thanks though I really appreciate your answer. It confirms what I already
suspected.

It is unfortunate that I was unaware of the corruption problem of running
Windows in a dual boot configuration. Had I known about it prior to
installation I would have made diffent choices and only installed it as a
Virtual Guest, since I am only using it for backwards compatability and
overall am extremely pleased with the Vista Ultimate 64, it is running fine.

I am actually confused by all the bad press Vista seems to be getting. That
maybe due to planning on my part though. It is on a new machine and I made
sure there where 64-bit drivers for all my hardware before I purchased it. I
imagine an upgrade on an older machine may be more difficult.

The only part of my question that remains unanswered at this point is does
anyone know of a way to bring the question to the attention of Microsoft
short of paying for support. I don't need an immediate answer from them but
would like to see the licensing issue clarified in the Knowledge base. But
the money I would spend for support will be better spent buying yet another
copy of Windows XP. I feel really abused by the corporate giant at the moment.

Thanks again Theo and Charlie Russel
>
>
>
>
> ruf1 wrote:
> > I currently have a dual boot machine Vista 64 Ultimate and XP Home for
> > backwards compatability. No problems there it works fine except for the
> > bootloader issue, and XP wiping out all of the restore points and most of the
> > shadow copies if you start it.
> >
> > That in itself isn't really that big of an issue, if it was easy to patch, I
> > am sure MS would have taken care of it with an update to XP by now. So I will
> > assume that it is just a fact of life and learn to deal with it.
> >
> > The solution I want to try is to create a virtual PC guest copy of XP, but I
> > have been looking and can't seem to find an answer to the question of whether
> > I can install the same copy of XP Home that I have for the dual boot as the
> > guest PC copy. It is after being run on the same machine as it was originally
> > installed on and won't be running at the same time as the dual boot copy.
> >
> > Can anyone direct me to some information about this? I just can't see paying
> > MS Support for an answer. Is there a way to get an answer from MS or bring a
> > question to their attention, so that it ends up in the Knowledge base without
> > paying 2/3's of the price of the software? I just want to keep things legal
> > and not get my copy of XP flagged as pirated.
>

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